Guild Wars 2

Floofs.3574:

Skarloc.2569:

Floofs.3574:

PAXA, tier 1 forum warriors, tier 8 players. I jest of course, but keep neecapper out of the ring, he? and his guild are some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet.

Neecapper felt the need to come at us, so while I cannot comment on how nice his guild is, he’s not a victim in this.

No, you’re the victim here. How dare they insult you and your glorious guild? I don’t even know how they can do that, when I see you and your guild take to the field like a group of beautiful winged stallions my heart melts inside. In fact, every night before I sleep I have alone time to the thought of the day where PAXA can rule the kingdom of guild wars 2 where there is peace and plenty for even us plebeians.

He made unnecessary comments toward PAXA, so I defended myself. Just because you know the guy, doesn’t mean that he’s in the right. I’m not claiming to be the victim, but it’s hard to take you seriously when asking us to back off a guy who feels the need to bash us.

Ungood.3054:

As requested:

Skarloc.2569:

You’re kidding yourself if you think there’s any difference in talent between the tiers. The players here in tier8, are just as good as any other tier.

This is boasting, pure and simple, and…. not true at all.

Having run with and against guilds from T1 and T2 that took time to come down to T8 during the free transfers (The time mend Moved to HoD), I can say without any question that there are massive disparities between what T1 on fields in regards to skill, talent, and gearing, then what T8 puts out. So can FC, and SF for that matter.

Again, not boasting at all. We’re from tier1 as well and the overall level of skill between tiers is very much the same. In fact, there are several teams on this tier from tier1, and with transfers being as open as they have been, every server is littered with people from across all tiers, which once again proves my point that all of the tiers have a similar level of skill.

katz.8376:

if you’ll read my post again, i did compliment your skills at killing people remarkably fast. i’ll admit, you guys do work quite well as a small tight knit team. that doesn’t mean you are not really annoying to face. while everyone is certainly welcome to play however they want, please forgive me if i am not impressed by your chosen MO, and forgive me again if i simply avoid you on the field instead of feeding you bags. i don’t see a point trying to attack you or even try to pass by when i am alone.

It’s a backhanded compliment filled with obvious shots directed at our play style in which you felt you needed to come to the forums with. If you find us annoying to face, that’s fine, then don’t fight us. However, you felt the need to take shots at us only for the sake of making you feel better. None of us took shots at PK, because all it would do is make you look bad for the sake of making us feel better. We could, but that’s not what we’re trying to do here. You decided that was what you wanted to do, which is why I mentioned you.

At no point were any of us asking you to be impressed with our style of play. That’s an asinine assumption that you’ve made on your own. Go back and reread most of this thread, and realize that it’s a member of PK taking a shot at PAXA, not the other way around.

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

Ungood.3054:

LOL.

Whatever you say. You just keep believing that. If that is what you need to do to flex your ego and not feel like a failure, then that is what you need to so. Some of us, like myself, and many people on ET and FC, know better.

Where is the ego flexing in my comment? You seem to fail at answering anything else directed your way, so I was hoping you could enlighten me with how you came to this conclusion.

Did you not read my post about [Agg]? really?

You claimed I was ego flexing, and I would like you to point out in my comments where that occurred. How does rereading your comments about [Agg] have anything to do with what I am saying? Again, another question you are sidestepping. We get it, you’re angry and you don’t like us, I was just hoping that at some point and time you could actually back up one of your claims.

Ungood.3054:

LOL.

Whatever you say. You just keep believing that. If that is what you need to do to flex your ego and not feel like a failure, then that is what you need to so. Some of us, like myself, and many people on ET and FC, know better.

Where is the ego flexing in my comment? You seem to fail at answering anything else directed your way, so I was hoping you could enlighten me with how you came to this conclusion.

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

We don’t care about the score, because Anet has a horrible reward system that offers the same thing for finishing 1st in tier 1 as you get for finishing 3rd in tier8.

Just a correction – This is not true.

You are correct, one team will be green the next week, and the other blue. Good observation. Forgot how much that color mattered.

No. You actually different rewards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in WvW.

And they would be what again? Tell me the reward that 1st place in tier1 receives that is different than 3rd place in tier8 would receive?

Ungood.3054:

Linanthony.1809:

Lolololo, I am thoroughly confused. I haven’t been on for a while now and have only been observing the forums. All I’m seeing is, “PAXA, you aren’t playing the game like its meant to be played” and “PAXA ganked me when I wasn’t looking and I’m here to share that try really kitten balls” or “I didn’t choose thug life, thug life chose me”

Eh? Is someone saying that?

I am saying that if you came to T8 to look for the best teams in WvW, you did it wrong.

You’re kidding yourself if you think there’s any difference in talent between the tiers. The players here in tier8, are just as good as any other tier. The difference between tiers is the number of players and coverage. We’ve played in each tier, and at no point have we found any difference in the level of talent. The only thing that’s been higher, is the amount of skill lag, and we’ll pass on that.

Given that you’ve probably never left ET, you likely have no room to even comment on this.

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

We don’t care about the score, because Anet has a horrible reward system that offers the same thing for finishing 1st in tier 1 as you get for finishing 3rd in tier8.

Just a correction – This is not true.

You are correct, one team will be green the next week, and the other blue. Good observation. Forgot how much that color mattered.

Yet again, numerous people flinging insults toward us. I would like to thank Runamok, Ungood, Parktou, Geoski, and katz for all criticizing us despite the fact that we have not directed anything your way before. Go ahead and throw the victim card out there while we defend ourselves, it’s what people normally do on these forums when they feel justified in bashing us out of the blue.

We consistently run one of the smallest groups on this server, and yet people feel the need to comment on us attacking players in smaller numbers. Despite the fact that we run in a size that is smaller than 95% of the player base, it’s wrong for us to kill a player who happens to be in our way. The hypocrisy of this situation is laughable, but I’ll go ahead and explain it for those who continue to have trouble with this.

Our goal is not to find stragglers or solo players and kill them. We all realize that our group killing a solo player takes no skill, and is clearly not a challenge. We don’t come to the forums to brag about it, and we don’t even comment on it when it’s happening in game. And unlike most of the zergs who chase us across the map, we’re not going out of our way to hunt down players in this situation. You happen to be in our way, so you’re going to die. I think it’s funny that we get specifically mentioned, when these same players probably get killed doing the exact same thing against far greater numbers. It’s ok if 15-20 kill me, just not PAXA’s 5, because I don’t like the way they play the game.

We play this game to fight other player’s. We don’t care about the score, because Anet has a horrible reward system that offers the same thing for finishing 1st in tier 1 as you get for finishing 3rd in tier8. It’s an endless loop of frustrating, repetitive gameplay that is clearly defined by how many numbers you have, and what kind of 24/7 coverage you have. I’m sorry that anyone is offended by us not wanting to take towers, we just choose to fight actual players.

Listen, we’re not looking for any sympathy when a group of 40 chases us across the map. We know what we signed up for when we roll with 5, just as someone solo should when they’re standing alone. The less numbers you roll with, the murkier situations are going to be when a zerg rolls by. However, we like to fight against greater numbers as that’s one of the few challenging aspects of this game. Our goal is to fight against other like-minded groups, but zerg busting is fun from time to time.

I’m sorry some of you have problems with how we play, I really am. But anytime you come to the forums and criticize us, take a moment to realize who starts all this garbage. We’re not the ones going out of our way to criticize individual players/guilds/servers… you are.

Azaruil.3406:

So you came onto here, decided to insult a whole server and cannot handle when it is thrown back at you?

Btw. I heard about you being forced to change your name. Perhaps instead of Mr. Moobs, Mr. Loobs would be a better fit.

Yeah, Moobs seems to think he is justified in his reasoning. He openly insults guilds/servers and then acts all surprised when people call him out for making baseless claims.

I love his reasoning for bashing PAXA is that we openly brag, and bash other guilds when there is zero posts to back up his claim. If we wanted to engage in that nonsense, we would have no better material than when we encounter Moobs out in the field. He ran his mouth, we defended ourselves against his ridiculous claims, and now he feels he is the victim. We only post when inane comments are made about us, usually which involves grossly exaggerated claims as to what really occurred. Even on the internet, people are always willing to dikitten out, but cannot handle the pressure when the truth hits them square in the mouth.

He doesn’t like us because he knows we’re right and instead of manning up to being ignorant, he pulls the ever so common victim card and chooses to be mad/upset.

Darek.1836:

And sneak attacks against unorganized groups is hardly owning. Imagine g PAXA were all solo roaming for whatever reason (your thief does it) and happenedto be in the same spot and got hit by an organized sneak attack by BS. who would win? answer is obvious.

We didn’t sneak attack you either time. You saw us coming and you all bailed at the first sign of competition. And there’s an easy answer to not being hit from behind. It’s called panning your camera. Just because you choose to be terrible and not use this simple aspect of the game is a you problem, not mine.

Darek.1836:

Lol I’m a bunker guardian.
Should I believe anything else you said?
And I wasn’t going to fight you guys when we had 4, you already engaged while we werent together, 2 of us were on alts (the third being a ranger) and seriously I’m not going to bother with you if I know I’m going to lose.

Which is why you usually run from us.

You came at us first with a ridiculous comment about being able to 1v1 every single one of us, despite the fact that you never have. Not only that, the only time you’ve been anywhere close to being able to compete is leeching onto a full group from a different guild and acting as if you played any role in it.

Our comments are directed at you because you flung comments at us, thinking that what we do takes no skill. You’re a glorified dueler who thinks that playing guardian in a 1v1 takes any kind of skill against a player base that knows more about an arrow cart than their actual class.

If you don’t like us, that’s fine. Just remember this all started with you running your mouth, and continuing to run it. Get a group and come find us. You had one last night and then made excuses why you got smoked. We don’t need to brag to anyone about what we do, but if someone is going to make comments about us, it’s not too hard for us to back up what we say out in the field. You on the other hand, keep killing those stragglers heading to a cannon.

Darek.1836:

Hey guys, dueling is as easy as coloring but sneak attacking a few people barely outmanned while running an extremely coordinated group against an uncoordinated group of pugs who had no coordination shows complete skill! Yet PAXA probably remembers that SS guard who ran with the INVI group that killed them a few times over (before they started the necessary shadow refuge heals to save their asses). Not skilled..

You had multiple people from your own guild with you and bailed at the first sign of combat. Sorry we didn’t stop and let you 1v1 one of us, it would have been exciting to spend 15 minutes watching boons and regen stack. You run a dueling guardian build and immediately call people out when you can’t find terrible stragglers to fight in a 1v1 situation that clearly favors you, in a game that is not balanced in the least bit towards 1v1 combat.

We do remember the Invi group, as they have beat us before, just as we beat them. We fight them often as they’re a good fight and like to do the same things we do. You were there for one night, and got smoked multiple times that night. You were a nonfactor in that fight, btw. We know where there pressure and damage comes from, and it wasn’t your bunker guardian. Invi had mass invis for rez as well, so it works both ways btw. Are we not allowed to use stealth for rezzing?

Anyways, people immediately flamed you because you’re a joke who’s only line is, “Come 1v1 me bro!” No offense, but anyone with a pulse can duel with a guardian, and you act like it’s some talent this tier hasn’t seen before. If what we do takes no skill, come get a group and come find us. You had your chance last night, but you wanted no part of us when we hit your group.

Any N/A server have it open?

Darek.1836:

maybe I should just delete that post

As far as difficulty goes, dueling ranks right up there with staying inside the lines of a coloring book. No offense, but did you really expect people to respond to that in any other way?

katz.8376:

lol. you guys are mean. i bet every single grammar stickler is twitching right now reading this thread. XD

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subcrazy.1098:

salocinn.4120:

Just wanted to tell PAXA necro he is kitten. We have to focuss you since you are annoying AND you are a pain in the kitten to kill (even tho you aren’t a mesmer). Good thing we don’t see many like you XD

Hmm not sure how to respond. Sounds like Ur saying I’m bad then Ur not lol. I’m confused but I’ll just say thanks either way.

He’s just stating the obvious… that you’re bad.

Glaeser.8015:

Sorry I guess I wasn’t very clear. I was using it as an example of if the match ups changed on such a frequent basis of every week or so it might not be possible/practical to just transfer back.

Just speaking in hypothetical situations as we don’t really know what’s going to happen yet.

Glaeser, I’m failing to see how any of this thread relates to you in any way? Perhaps I’m missing something here, but what is the point of your posts?

Any N/A server with Balthazar open?

Floofs.3574:

Must be et because hod doesn’t really seem to have a consistent small team game going and trying to get the roamers on FC to work together would be, as they say, like herding cats.

HoD has PAXA and KoM running almost every single night. GT also runs in small groups as well. They’re definitely out there.

PAXA will be running tonight, probably in HoD bl.

Oh nice, an argument about the skill needed to use siege. Siege is like kicking a field goal in Madden, only the bar moves much slower, allowing you to take your time in placing a shot. That’s for the hard ones, not like the point and click variety that only requires you to be semi-awake at your keyboard. I can see why this siege thing appears tough for people though, those field goals sure can be hard to kick at times. I mean, it’s not like half the siege is placed in the same spot, day in and day out…

I also like Moobs’s random assumption that he can kill all of PAXA 1v1. Not sure how you garner this, but I suppose it makes you feel better. I can’t wait to see what amazing bunker build it is you duel with. I’m sure it’s something none of us have thrashed or seen a million times, given how innovative and well played they are. Clearly not something people have beaten to death a million times.

Oh thank goodnesss, no wind!

Fuzzion.2504:

Skarloc.2569:

World ranks just let the enemy know how often you play/zerg. Think of it as your /played time, only it’s for WvW and it’s visible to everyone.

Best answer

But take note that a good number of players play different classes so ranks may not exactly equate to skill.

Ranks and skill are about as close as day is to night. It’s a reflection on your ability to to kill guards/towers, it has nothing to do with the ability to play the game with any level of skill.

Exosferatu.2961:

Also what is the point of having world ranks that even your home server cannot see your title?

There is no point. The sheeple needed another reason to keep playing, since zerging the same towers over and over became a pointless exercise.

World ranks just let the enemy know how often you play/zerg. Think of it as your /played time, only it’s for WvW and it’s visible to everyone.

subcrazy.1098:

I used to run ele as my main. I meet up with paxa, ran with them and we meshed. There was a slight problem, I was the 3rd ele. They asked if I could switch, I did and went necro. So there are ppl looking and if ur willing to change classes then it could turn out for u. Just depends how bad u want to do smaller scale fights. For me it was worth. Even tho now we run with a ele maybe 30% of the time. We went from 3 to pretty much 0 eles lol.

Sort of reminds me of a story. So I start leveling my Necro to 80 since Lava was currently running his Ele. Get the Necro to 80 to play with the group, and old sankittenger here decides to play Necro again! Lucky for me, I got to immediately level a Guard after that. Now get in the game Lava, we only have 2 right now!

XII.9401:

Nope that is not what I thought nor have I said that at any previous post but I like how you keep spinning this. I’m clearly stating what single player transfers should expect.

If I remember correctly, you stated in a reply above :‘We are recruiting like minded people who would like to fight small man teams daily.’
But in the mail response on a day prior and on a subsequent reply you said you are full and not looking for more? I don’t think there was any miscommunication.

At the moment there is currently no incentive for single players to pay 35$ to transfer.

If you are really serious -and I think you are- then you would list which 5man guild is recruiting on each server and what classes/builds they are after.

I will start: PAXA and KoM on HoD are not recruiting.

Otherwise there is no point for single players to transfer on the the possibility of being or not being recruited or starting or not starting their own guild. I’m sorry but that is what solo players transferring expect.

No body wants to start a guild at this point in the game on their own on a new server which is still mostly casual/zerging and expecting to find enough people of similar mentality for a 5man guild.

Just ask around and see if any of these guilds are looking for people. If you see other solo players who are interested in this, talk to them and see what they’re planning on doing. I am sure there is a guild out there who might need someone, but there’s no telling what they are looking for. Be a little more open into actively talking to other people about this.

I didn’t think it was possible for this tier to be more toxic… and then I saw a guy posting a pic with his gun. Stay classy, t7!

XII.9401:

If you are planing on paying to transfer to the new server that gets knocked down to T8, why not transfer to the bottom two? or then it won’t be a 3way?

You have more odds of finding other small-man groups if they split between three servers.

Acelerion.6820:

We finally got our finances in order and made the jump tonight. Look forward to the good fights.

Glad to have you guys on board. The response to this has been better than we had originally hoped for, and we hope this continues to spread to other players looking for the same environment.

Props to [FoE] and [BS] for the fights tonight.

Good fights against [Deth] just now. I’m glad you guys came back out a few times.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Skarloc.2569:

I would actually prefer it if there was a tier that didn’t focus on objectives.

That was my point. If HoD drops down and you pull many of the players that don’t focus on objectives to Tier8, you won’t really have to worry about the server moving back up and having to re-transfer back into tier8.

your game play focus will solidify your low ranking and overtime you might even drive more objective-based t8 players to t7 servers.

it’s win-win for mostly everyone.

And we’re not trying to drive players out, so we don’t want to come across that way. Even if we get a bunch of small-man groups to come over here, we’re still going to be in the minority, and that’s all right. A lot of the smaller roaming groups are scattered across tiers and and are frustrated with not finding the fights we want. We’re just hoping that we can consolidate all of that.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

You’ve successfully turned this interesting idea into a circle jerk. Keep on patting yourself on the back about how skilled you are if it makes you feel better.

FWIW, ET and FC may welcome the roamers hopping down, I know they have quite a few skilled roaming guilds down there, but I know quite a few of them want to work on progressing as a server as well (as much as you may think that’s such an inferior desire). So I don’t know that stability can really be promised in any tier.

Changing the meta is a fun idea, I’m all for it, just don’t be douchy about it.

I think you misunderstand what I’m trying to say. We’re not trying to change the meta, we’re trying to find a stable tier where small-man groups can roam around in regularity. The zerg meta is not changing, regardless of whether this happens or not, and it’s not our goal to change that. People are going to zerg regardless of what I say. It’s certainly not my style of play, but ArenaNet has built their game to cater to that style of play.

Again, I realize wherever we go that’s going to happen, and that’s all right. What we’re trying to do is move the few small-man groups that are left to an area where we can all fight against each other.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Skarloc.2569:

I know that HoD is probably going to fall into that tier in the next week or so, but no idea how long they’ll be there.

Assuming you guys stay on HoD and attract even more players that don’t participate in objective/score-based play to join you… it’ll stay in t8 in perpetuity.

You know the reward difference from losing each week in t8 compared to winning t1 every week? That’s right folks, the same exact thing! ArenaNet has implemented a scoring system that rewards you for winning, by placing you in another tier where you can grind for the same exact thing you’ve done in every other tier. It’s fools gold, and each day people realize it, the game slowly dies. It’s a perpetual loop of the same garbage. There is no skill difference between tiers, just numbers. So if we were to just sit in t8 for all of eternity, it wouldn’t bother me a bit.

I would actually prefer it if there was a tier that didn’t focus on objectives. It would be one thing if there was some type of reward, but there’s not.

kurtosis.9526:

You should arrange this on Anvil Rock for NA, or Desolation for EU, the dominant sPvP servers.

Anvil Rock would probably be better since Desolation is already a T1 zergy EU server, AR is T5 and from what I’ve heard, plays WvW the way they play sPvP – small groups of highly skilled roamers.

Would be cool to build on that foundation and make server full of 24/7 coverage of disruption squads.

When we were on NSP, we played against AR for over a month. You’re right, they do WvW like they sPvP, they sit in a large circle after they kill some guards. AR is further proof that sPvP is one of the biggest jokes of competitive PvP in any MMO. We’ve fought against some of the highest rated sPvP players out in WvW, and it’s fairly embarassing what they bring to the table. Those guys have no clue what to do when there is not a circle to stand in. Now I’m sure there are some talented players who do it, but it clearly does not transfer over to success in other aspects of this game.

AR is just another zerging server, like the rest of them. Not trying to be harsh, I just wanted to give people a realistic heads up on what we could expect there.

frostshade.3617:

tier 7 perhaps has one of the largest roaming pops atm

Not true, and it’s getting worse by the day. SF has zero groups that run solo, and that’s being generous. As to NSP, they used to have a large number of small-man groups roaming around, but the popular thing to do these days is hide in towers and large zergs, and only come out when it’s painfully obvious that they’ll have an advantage. SPCA, Splt, and tM have some solid players who occasionally roam, but they have a much more casual approach than they used to. You’re more likely to see them in a massive group than you would running a small team. Not that they don’t roam, but it’s not very common these days.

On HoD, there’s us and KoM, but since we’re the only ones doing it, we’re staring across at 2 servers full of mindless sheeple. Again, all servers are like that, but your suggestion that tier 7 is full of roaming groups is not true.

I think everyone here, that has serious interest in this, is likely tired of the monotonous zerging that occurs each day. It would be one thing if there were consistent small-man groups running around, but there’s not. All of us, likely at multiple points in a night, are probably openly wishing that they had smaller group fights to engage in each night. Here’s the problem, and why it won’t change unless we actively try to change it. ArenaNet laid the foundation for a solid WvW-based game, but it’s fairly clear they have no clue what they’re doing moving forward. The additions, and lack thereof, should signal to anyone that any changes to improve the game are going to have to be done at a player level, not at the design level.

I think we’ve all been through enough tiers to realize that every server is going to zerg, and that aside from the people posting in this thread, there is very little out there in terms of people wanting to ever run in a group size smaller than 15. It’s painfully obvious that the situation is only going to get better unless a group of like-minded individuals make the plunge to mass transfer to a tier.

Now I understand some people don’t want to move, but if our goal is to try and find competitive fights, why wouldn’t you? I’m not asking anyone here to invest real life money into a pyramid scheme, I’m just asking people to spend a little bit of gold, something you could easily make in a day, so that we could form an actual small-man group community. I don’t know about you guys, but this is a no-brainer to me. If you truly want to regularly fight against competitive teams, why not make this happen?

Oozo, you of all people should understand this. Back when I was in Envy, and we had you guys in AD, Bsty, NoQQ, LARP, and TrX, it was probably the most fun I’ve ever had in this game. We have a chance to recreate that kind of community again, and it honestly is just going to take a few people spend some gold.

As far as tiers go, a lot of them are fairly unstable at the moment. Realistically, tier 8 is probably the most stable as FC and ET are likely locked into that tier. It might be a solid destination since it’s likely to have the most stability, server wise. I know that HoD is probably going to fall into that tier in the next week or so, but no idea how long they’ll be there.

Anyone that has real interest in this, we should all get together on vent sometime and hammer out the details to make this happen. This game is only going to get better if we make it happen.

dank.3680:

K, press 2 harder bro.. Btw I kitten on you with a warrior I’d been playing for 2 days, you refuged at 15% while I was 100 and I decided it wasn’t worth my time anymore and walked away.. But everytime I encountered you in group play my combat log said “heartseeker x 4 or 5”. So keep talkin bout skillz.

Btw when we were Envy, Skarllok and Sheefu were always the ones hanging in the back while the rest of us fought, also coincidentally usually the first to die, especially Sheefu. You know where Skarllok’s hate came from? Because he was being a kitten talking crap behind my back and the whole guild disbanded over it – without my encouragement btw.

Oh, this is cute. Hanging out in the back while the rest of you fought? Would this be while you were dueling out in EB, or the times when you never grouped with us? You wouldn’t really know about many of the groups we had in Envy as your primary role in the guild was to cry about things that bothered you, criticize anyone in the guild for their build, and to let everyone know how you “kitten on” terrible players.

Let’s not forget that you weren’t in Envy that long, and had already been kicked out of the guild once before. I don’t want to say the vote was unanimous, but it was pretty laughable what people had to say about you when it happened. That’s when your illustrious DOWN guild started. I love how you try to play nice here when it’s funny what you used to say back in those days. I’m guessing people can change, but I never bought this act.

Envy broke up because it stopped being a guild long ago. Most of the guild was just a collection of good players with a heavy dueling background who happened to share the same tag. Most of the people couldn’t, or wouldn’t, get in voice chat and half the people had no clue how to mark targets and assist. The guild officially broke up when I was on vacation for a number of weeks, so your facts on who was talking crap was a bit wrong on that one. It wasn’t me, but I’ll go ahead and shoulder that, I could care less.

You bring nothing to the table Dank, and you never have. You’re a glorified dueler who thinks more of himself than anyone else you come across. You can say all you want about how I play, but I let what happens in the game do mine. You’re just another sheeple who hides at the first sign of trouble. Oh, but you like to duel, so I guess that changes things. And given what we’ve come across in XOXO lately, you really shouldn’t be saying anything. But then again, you guys are clearly not a small-man group. But you’ve been rather upfront with how you like to zerg now, so power to you.

Fortunately, the Internet is a lot like a tower, it’s pretty easy to hide behind, so I can see how you excel with these baseless claims.

Take care, Dank!

Nausicca.6038:

Skarloc.2569:

wall of text (again)

Oh god…

You can say whatever you want, you’re still hidding in your group to win a 5v1.

Have a nice day ~

You died repeatedly to 4vLots, so it’s hard to take you seriously anymore. Solo, with a group, or in a zerg, you’re just not a good player. Oh well, there’s always Dora the Explorer: Castle Paradise. You’ll probably do well in that game.

Step 1: Die solo and complain on forums
Step 2: Join zerg to kill said group
Step 3: Die in zerg, without killing any of said group
Step 4: Join a larger group the next day to attack said group again
Step 5: Die again… repeatedly
Step 6: Ignore truth and blame death on only being outnumbered… despite having the numbers advantage multiple times… wait, that can’t be right
Step 7: Focus on Step 6 and realize said player is just bad

The abridged version for those who don’t quite know what’s going on. A sheeple strayed from the herd and died. Clearly something that needed to be on the forums.

Nausicca.6038:

Yes you’re right. As Jscull said months ago, I’m a carebear.

But I don’t talk big hidden in my premade group like you do.

Yes, because we all know that hiding in a group of 3-5 is what people in this game do to keep safe. Running in a group size that leaves us outnumbered 95% of the time is exactly what comes to mind when I think about hiding in this game. You stick to My Little Pony, I’ll stick to logic.

Nausicca.6038:

And ask Osif. we already had duels. Ask him about this time I had to fight 3-4 HoD who kept interrupting our 1v1.
And your d/d ele. I faught him 1 time and the same thing happened. Ask them if the adds survived? ( We had great duels btw, both are really good).

I’m sorry, did I catch a niner in there? Having trouble following you here. How do duels happening in previous times have anything to do with this? You killed random adds that joined a fight you had with Osif, and I suppose it’s the same thing as you jumping into fights against us, considering the outcome ended with adds dying. Either way, your dead and felt the need to come to the forums. Moving on…

Nausicca.6038:

I’ve never seen you accomplish anything tho, except writing wall of text in forums. Maybe you’re a carebear too. That’s good, I still have some room in [CUTE] for you.

What exactly are some accomplishments that I’m missing out on in this game? Is there a hall of achievements that I’m missing out on? Are they giving out trophies for WvW ranks, or ribbons for having the biggest group size? I’m sorry, but what accomplishments are you referring to? Since the answer isn’t likely there, I’ll help you out. Given the times we have run across each other, it quite often ends with you taking a dirt nap. Take yesterday, which was fairly embarrassing considering you joined a group larger than ours, plus all the guards from Bay, as well as the usual sheeple arming the cannons. You would think dying once would have brought upon better judgement, but I suppose dying multiple times is what it finally takes for you to hide back in the keep.[/quote]

Nausicca.6038:

As long as you’ll 5v1 me, I’ll zerg you. I think it’s fair.
Have a nice day, with an emote

Oh I have no doubt that you’ll continue to zerg. That’s like letting everyone know that today is Wednesday. I would like to thank you for such a mind-blowing observation, but I’ve been playing this game longer than 5 minutes, I know how you play. Again, I apologize you died 4v1, and to that embarrassment you presented yesterday as well. You’re just another sheeple, the only difference being you post a lot and have a fetish with mystery tonics. Oh well, hugs all around!!!

I’ll pose some emotes for you as well, given it’s likely the only thing you’ll understand.

dank.3680:

Skarloc.2569:

Themanbat.3206:

Skarloc.2569:

Themanbat.3206:

Skarloc.2569:

Themanbat.3206:

He didn’t say “sometimes” and your groups have definitely run from some fair fights. Might wanna look a little more into who your new recruits are. Also, I’ve seen PAXA in 15+ groups of people too. Might as well go whine on the forums about it.

Since you seem to have some vivid details about who is running, why not share? No offense Andro, but I have a hard time imagining anyone running from a fight against equal numbers. Like Osif said, you sure there wasn’t 30 people in the area that they wanted to pull away from? It sounds like sour grapes, especially considering Osif just posted a video of someone from XOXO doing the exact same thing you are accusing us of.

I’ve never been in a PAXA group that has had more than 8-9 people in an area, and it’s only been when we’ve had multiple groups in the area trying to bust up a zerg. I’ve been a part of that once, and wanted to take a shower afterward. We consistently run in groups of 5 or less, and I think you’ll have a hard time arguing against that. Considering the size of the guild, we couldn’t even field more than 8-9 if we wanted to.

I really don’t think there’s anyone from NSP that can call us out for numbers. Like us or not, we run smaller numbers than any other guild in this tier, and we’re very consistent in that. Aside from random solo people, we’re the smallest group that’s out in WvW. I’m not going to get into individual guilds doing this or that as it’s pretty evident what we see everyday. There are some talented players that run in larger groups than I would expect, but that’s their choice. I wish they would try to run in smaller groups, but I’m sure they have their reasons.

You were one of them And i didn’t say PAXA groups of 15+. We’ve never had that many online either…

Oh Andro, hush your lies! I do remember running with Sheefu in the middle island and there you came, running up the opposite way with 20 people on your tail. I jumped on that like white on rice. Needless to say, you got outplayed!

Dank said he beat you and sheefu 1v2 on his warrior later that night. This true?

No, see what happened was I was out leveling with my level 14 Necro and I solo’ed his Warrior while Sheefu helped me kill Coyotes for some sweet experience.

Lies you know it was the Coyotes that killed me..

Don’t feel bad, they killed Sheefu also.

Themanbat.3206:

Skarloc.2569:

Themanbat.3206:

Skarloc.2569:

Themanbat.3206:

He didn’t say “sometimes” and your groups have definitely run from some fair fights. Might wanna look a little more into who your new recruits are. Also, I’ve seen PAXA in 15+ groups of people too. Might as well go whine on the forums about it.

Since you seem to have some vivid details about who is running, why not share? No offense Andro, but I have a hard time imagining anyone running from a fight against equal numbers. Like Osif said, you sure there wasn’t 30 people in the area that they wanted to pull away from? It sounds like sour grapes, especially considering Osif just posted a video of someone from XOXO doing the exact same thing you are accusing us of.

I’ve never been in a PAXA group that has had more than 8-9 people in an area, and it’s only been when we’ve had multiple groups in the area trying to bust up a zerg. I’ve been a part of that once, and wanted to take a shower afterward. We consistently run in groups of 5 or less, and I think you’ll have a hard time arguing against that. Considering the size of the guild, we couldn’t even field more than 8-9 if we wanted to.

I really don’t think there’s anyone from NSP that can call us out for numbers. Like us or not, we run smaller numbers than any other guild in this tier, and we’re very consistent in that. Aside from random solo people, we’re the smallest group that’s out in WvW. I’m not going to get into individual guilds doing this or that as it’s pretty evident what we see everyday. There are some talented players that run in larger groups than I would expect, but that’s their choice. I wish they would try to run in smaller groups, but I’m sure they have their reasons.

You were one of them And i didn’t say PAXA groups of 15+. We’ve never had that many online either…

Oh Andro, hush your lies! I do remember running with Sheefu in the middle island and there you came, running up the opposite way with 20 people on your tail. I jumped on that like white on rice. Needless to say, you got outplayed!

Dank said he beat you and sheefu 1v2 on his warrior later that night. This true?

No, see what happened was I was out leveling with my level 14 Necro and I solo’ed his Warrior while Sheefu helped me kill Coyotes for some sweet experience.

Themanbat.3206:

Skarloc.2569:

Themanbat.3206:

He didn’t say “sometimes” and your groups have definitely run from some fair fights. Might wanna look a little more into who your new recruits are. Also, I’ve seen PAXA in 15+ groups of people too. Might as well go whine on the forums about it.

Since you seem to have some vivid details about who is running, why not share? No offense Andro, but I have a hard time imagining anyone running from a fight against equal numbers. Like Osif said, you sure there wasn’t 30 people in the area that they wanted to pull away from? It sounds like sour grapes, especially considering Osif just posted a video of someone from XOXO doing the exact same thing you are accusing us of.

I’ve never been in a PAXA group that has had more than 8-9 people in an area, and it’s only been when we’ve had multiple groups in the area trying to bust up a zerg. I’ve been a part of that once, and wanted to take a shower afterward. We consistently run in groups of 5 or less, and I think you’ll have a hard time arguing against that. Considering the size of the guild, we couldn’t even field more than 8-9 if we wanted to.

I really don’t think there’s anyone from NSP that can call us out for numbers. Like us or not, we run smaller numbers than any other guild in this tier, and we’re very consistent in that. Aside from random solo people, we’re the smallest group that’s out in WvW. I’m not going to get into individual guilds doing this or that as it’s pretty evident what we see everyday. There are some talented players that run in larger groups than I would expect, but that’s their choice. I wish they would try to run in smaller groups, but I’m sure they have their reasons.

You were one of them And i didn’t say PAXA groups of 15+. We’ve never had that many online either…

Oh Andro, hush your lies! I do remember running with Sheefu in the middle island and there you came, running up the opposite way with 20 people on your tail. I jumped on that like white on rice. Needless to say, you got outplayed!

kazi.6438:

Skarloc.2569:

dank.3680:

Oh who cares…

I run in zergs.
I run solo and win 1vx fights. I lose in them too! omygosh
I jump in and fight 10 enemies with only 1 other person with me.
I run from people sometimes.
I stand on towers and taunt.
I gank.
I run with small groups who take on huge groups of less coordinated players and win.
I run with small groups who take on other small groups and sometimes win sometimes lose sometimes run sometimes end up chasing..
I run into towers when I’m low hp if one is near..
I pvdoor.
Now I even pve an hour or two a day!
I party with enemy servers and have duels.
I party with enemy servers and talk smack.
I sit spam ppl for lulz.

I probably missed some fun activities in that list.. But lets quit kittening and get back to posting awesome wvw vids pls. kitten I wish my PC wasn’t a POS or I would make my own.

^

I’m surprised that you didn’t post 7 or so comments of flame after someone mentioned that they were annoyed at the one time when you ambushed and ganked them. It seems like everyone else is doing it.

Dank was rather honest in how he plays the game now, and given that it’s rare to see such a response from anyone these days, I thought it deserved notice again.

As to Naussica being annoyed about getting killed by our 4 man group last night, it was laughable to begin with, so I didn’t say anything. Nothing against people running around solo, but if we’re roaming around in a small group, you’re probably going to die if we come across you. She had no problem hopping on board the large zerg that hit us later that night, so not sure why she felt the need to say anything since she certainly took her chance to hit us with overwhelming numbers. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out so well for her, so maybe that’s why she felt the need to comment.

Luckily, she had her chance for revenge earlier today when it was me, Jscull, Zelrin, and Aza roaming around. We were fighting a large group of NSP outside of Bay and here comes Naussica. Again, hitting us with larger numbers after thinking it was funny that we hit her solo with 4. Pot, meet kettle. It’s amazing how often that line is appropriate in these threads. Anyways, things just didn’t seem to go her way again as she died several more times.

Despite being one of the smallest groups she saw the entire night, she felt the need to comment. But that’s coming from someone who talks about cookies, hugging, and rainbows in every other post, so I can understand where she is coming from. She likely thinks we’re playing Hello Kitty: Island Adventure, and that we all should all turn into deers, sit around and wave at each other, and join Greenpeace. I’m sorry, but I’m playing this game to hang out with my friends and find good fights. I’m not going to purposely avoid one player just because they happen to be solo. We’re not jumping on her body, posting video’s about it on the forums, or even saying we’re good because we were able to take her down 4v1. She happened to be in the way of one of the smallest group sizes in this tier and she took offense. I apologize, I should have baked you cookies.

dank.3680:

Oh who cares…

I run in zergs.
I run solo and win 1vx fights. I lose in them too! omygosh
I jump in and fight 10 enemies with only 1 other person with me.
I run from people sometimes.
I stand on towers and taunt.
I gank.
I run with small groups who take on huge groups of less coordinated players and win.
I run with small groups who take on other small groups and sometimes win sometimes lose sometimes run sometimes end up chasing..
I run into towers when I’m low hp if one is near..
I pvdoor.
Now I even pve an hour or two a day!
I party with enemy servers and have duels.
I party with enemy servers and talk smack.
I sit spam ppl for lulz.

I probably missed some fun activities in that list.. But lets quit kittening and get back to posting awesome wvw vids pls. kitten I wish my PC wasn’t a POS or I would make my own.

^

Npac.3476:

Themanbat.3206:

osif.8673:

moutzaheadin.4029:

The only crying from either side was the time we mopped the floor with paxa and the tears that followed was.. "omg pew pew cheese op’d mesmer/ thief combos/ we didn’t have our full 5 / insert more tears / ect ect / Whines in whisper.

Other then that one time I think its been rather tear free.

Huh. All the times I’ve been around it’s been pretty fun fights with no floor mopping. Who was it that cried, if I might ask.

Themanbat.3206:

Yes, and I’m sure that makes you feel really special after having run from the fair numbers fights. Now stop with all this attention grubbing. I’m trying to PvE, since killing you guys isn’t enough of a challenge.

It’s funny how when some people are mad they go right to the “you’re bad” card. I think you’re a good player and run the best specc that fits your play style (only time I ever see you is when you’re solo). XOXO has lost plenty times to PAXA, so saying that we aren’t a challenge kinda goes against you… dying to bad players and all.

Also, only time I have run from a fair fight has been when I’ve had a phone call in the middle of a fight. Our groups have never run from a fair fight. Funny how you bring that up though. Hypocrisy is a pretty big pet peeve of mine.

http://youtu.be/r2KUhrF66l8

Acts all carebear and stands around with me until others attack me. Then when the others leave and he’s all alone… PEACE OUT!

Don’t get offended by Jscull saying you guys sometimes zerg. It’s just a factual statement.

He didn’t say “sometimes” and your groups have definitely run from some fair fights. Might wanna look a little more into who your new recruits are. Also, I’ve seen PAXA in 15+ groups of people too. Might as well go whine on the forums about it.

Look lover, as the founder of PAXA and probably the least abusive forum poster in my guild, I can honestly say that we have less than 15 people in guild ( I actually believe it to be around 8-9 but i am not on so i am not completely sure).

And for all those in XOXO…I understand why you have been heated with us recently. Jscull has been up ur kitten and yea, he can get under people’s skin.

Yet, even with that being the case, I still expect more from u guys. It seems to me (and this is just my experience) that every time I fight u guys u are either /crying, jumping, cloning, fighting by a keep door or firing a cannon.

If you really have the skills all these sheepole claim u have then come fight us!!! Believe it or not, we don’t think killing each XOXO Mesmer individually a huge testament to our skill…we want all of u. Bring it on…

And as for Dank, Skallrok wants u.

<—- excited

Hey Zelrin, remember that time you spelled my name right? Oh wait…

Themanbat.3206:

He didn’t say “sometimes” and your groups have definitely run from some fair fights. Might wanna look a little more into who your new recruits are. Also, I’ve seen PAXA in 15+ groups of people too. Might as well go whine on the forums about it.

Since you seem to have some vivid details about who is running, why not share? No offense Andro, but I have a hard time imagining anyone running from a fight against equal numbers. Like Osif said, you sure there wasn’t 30 people in the area that they wanted to pull away from? It sounds like sour grapes, especially considering Osif just posted a video of someone from XOXO doing the exact same thing you are accusing us of.

I’ve never been in a PAXA group that has had more than 8-9 people in an area, and it’s only been when we’ve had multiple groups in the area trying to bust up a zerg. I’ve been a part of that once, and wanted to take a shower afterward. We consistently run in groups of 5 or less, and I think you’ll have a hard time arguing against that. Considering the size of the guild, we couldn’t even field more than 8-9 if we wanted to.

I really don’t think there’s anyone from NSP that can call us out for numbers. Like us or not, we run smaller numbers than any other guild in this tier, and we’re very consistent in that. Aside from random solo people, we’re the smallest group that’s out in WvW. I’m not going to get into individual guilds doing this or that as it’s pretty evident what we see everyday. There are some talented players that run in larger groups than I would expect, but that’s their choice. I wish they would try to run in smaller groups, but I’m sure they have their reasons.

King A R T H U R.5412:

Jace.6973:

Oh obsession. Yes I cried when PAXA wiped fight club

And yes, I did stick up for one of my MoB commanders. What I like most about this commander is that he admitted he made the wrong call, and apologized. So yes, I did support him.

Also MoB doesn’t start drama we just clarify whats facts and whats made up.

Like yes PAXA did wipe us. Did they fight fair? They think so we think not. Things like this are never going to be settled because people view them from 2 points of view and realistically means nothing. Ask any member in MoB I will be the first to tell you that PAXA is extremely talented. As they should be they put a lot of effort into their small man fight. And I think they are the best hands down small man group out there.

Ideally some one on your own server shouldn’t call you out. At the end of the day were still on the same server.
To me, it’s more about what actually happens inside WvW.

If I remember correctly there was a guild that tried to come wipe fight club when we were down there one time and we beat them all the way back to their spawn point over and over. I will give them this they were persistent thats for sure.

And why wouldn’t we be? We were outnumbered and killing far more than we should have been. Of course we were going to keep fighting.

Tei.1704:

Kaos.9162:

Yeah, so unfair using game mechanics everyone has access to. Who does that?

Yes, is is extremely unfair when guilds like SPCA, XOXO and PAXA run around with buffs. These guys run around in good groups filled with good players running good builds. These are the types of guys that do not have much issue in the vast majority of fair fights. I only stated that like a fact because they have some better players than me and I do alright. A large part of the point and fun in pretty much any game is in the challenge it provides and skill it requires; using buffs lowers both of those. What’s the fun in making it so good and close fights aren’t as close as they would have been? What skill does it take to nearly half conditions applied to you because you farmed some nodes or used the trading post?

It would be one thing if XOXO, SPCA and PAXA were the type of players that needed an extra edge, but they aren’t. Who cares if 98% of people in WvW use buffs? A lot of those people need an extra edge because they’re trash. I beat most people I fight anyway, but I should make the game less amusing by making all those fights easier? Every time I run into someone good I should take some of the fun away by making the fight easier? kitten that. Call buffs smart, fair or whatever. I’ll be the idiot that handicaps himself for better fights.

I’m probably not going to debate the subject beyond this post because I doubt any replies will be worth a response. I just hope I explained things better to some people.

As you said, 98% of the people are using some type of consumable. Now, I doubt that number is that high, but quite a few people use them. The thing is, they’re cheap and easily accessible so it’s not as if consumables give an unfair advantage to a small number of people. ArenaNet, like most MMO’s these days, have gone out of their way to make sure that this game is as simple as can be, and catered to anyone with a pulse.

You act as if every fight is created equal, and it’s far from it. We get into fights in which 95% of the time we’re outnumbered. Does the fact that we’re using consumables seem unfair now? Like you said, with as many people that use them, it’s being used far more against us, than we use against others. I’m not going to purposely handicap myself when I know the best fight I can get in likely is going to result in fighting 15 people. I might see your point if WvW was a more even playing field, but that’s never been the case. Again, not complaining about what we have to fight against, that’s the nature of the sheeple herd, but your argument against people like us using consumables is just tough to take seriously.