Guild Wars 2

Hello everybody. I have been playing thief for a while now and have used many builds. I have recently started using condition builds and find them to be pretty fun. At first I tried d/d but found p/d to be more fun and effective at least with rabid for the ability to deal more damage along with condis primarily sneak attack damage. I based this build off of my previous evasion heavy build. Here it is:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c;4Rwk0-S5wOVd0;9;4J;0JT45;557-429awW8U;1JHdZH16RQ-kis6uXU;1Vg-k0q1uY-4659TV6s4T0;9;9;6FFFFFF;9;9;7V6s5D

Hope you like it and let me know what you think about it. If you need tips or help on how to play it message me, send mail or just post here. Have fun.

Jaaded.1870:

Tots.3056:

Neeho.3859:

DDLG is now the best it has ever been on DR. I look forward to working with those who remained. And blaming what happened on not getting support from the “other big guilds” doesn’t make any sense… there were NO other big guilds. Only one I can think of that rivals your numbers is RED, and they are mostly PvE; the few that come out, while much appreciated, don’t number that many.

You expected small guilds to all follow your blue dorito on command. Coming to our bl and screaming that EB needs help didn’t work because we could care less about EB… that’s where the zergs always are. Coming back to the chat and kittening that we just lost SM because WE didn’t go to EB is just funny. We don’t like your playstyle and we don’t like you. That’s why you didn’t get our support. Hopefully you can learn from some true leaders when you get to where you are going… you (all) need the help.

I’ve always put BL defense before EB. EB is a giant waste of time with the never-ending SM battle and 90% of DDLG would agree. Big words from someone who’s contributed absolutely nothing to the community. Now that many have left you voice your opinion, class act you are. No wonder so many guilds had a problem with you.

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen you in WvW. I’m glad that all 7 people in your guild don’t like us, because simply put, you’re useless and just for this post, I don’t like you either.
Have fun sitting on the bottom, because as long as people like you are on that server, that’s where it’s going to stay.

And this is why the server hated you and guilds avoided you like the plague.

Lovely to hear that after we transfer. Guilds fighting over this stupid kittening drama are the reason DR is falling apart. Sure some DDLG members like to troll a bit to much but only people who can’t take a joke are affected by that. DDLG did what it did to help the server we openly recruited and accepted pugs into our zergs. For you to hate DDLG is completely irrational.

Tukmolytes.3467:

All I can see in TOTS post are #blurrrr #sheeeiiiiitzzzz. Am I the only one?

Talked to some DDLG in LA yesterday many thinks you ruined the guild’s reputation by being a troll. You left already right? There, DDLG will be better again.

Try harder. Your attempts at forum trolling are mediocre.

Fear Bags and our sexy helmets.

Neeho.3859:

Alien.5890:

Well, looks like im joining the group of people quitting/leaving DR. Today has really shown that DR is bottom tier material without all of these guilds that have left

I was wrong. I guessed you guys would implode, not abandon the server (and half your guildmates). I like this better, since (hopefully) most of the cross server spies, forum warriors, and map chat spammers will be going with you. (Really, take them.)

If you want to stay on a server with boring fights that’s dropping faster than AR then have fun.

Nice fights in SBI BL last night. Have had more fun in this matchup than I had in the last 2 months on DR. Also Bags zerg

Tukmolytes.3467:

Oh really? Like how we smashed DDLG 8v3 several times? And wow, where are you now? haven’t seen your guild in a while? Where are your ultra elite HIDING thieves who kept dying on my traps? You all dead or just cowards? LOL!!!!

DDLG, LOL Deadly Legends my bullkitten, you better call yourself CRY WHEN WE LOSE, POST VIDEO IF WE WIN [DDLG].

If forums has a PPT you’ll be 700 ppt. LOL!!!!

Obviously you never improved. You cause your server to sank into the bottom. That’s a fact.

Oh sorry you improved, my mistake. You are now GODs of the forums. ROTFL!

I’ll shout DDLG DDLG DDLG in LA later. Devona’s Dead Losers [DDLG]!!!

Hide behind a commander you say? I am always fighting night after night after night, you can ask my fellow IoJ servermates. You all saw how I look like in-game coz I never hide. And your commanders? And you? You never reveal yourselves coz you are afraid we will kill and screenshot you or like what you are good at, VIDEO CUTTING.

Lots of caps in there. Makes you seem pretty mad.

Jeknar.6184:

DR talk a lot about IoJ needing larger numbers to take’em on, but we (4 people) took the camp from the DR that was capping (about 6 or 7 guys), and held it for the whole duration of Righteous indignation against a few more (I’d say about 10).

So, what you have to say?

That it literally takes nobody to hold a camp with righteous indignation.

Usually I don’t find these all that funny but this was pretty good.

nyckolag.2394:

How do you kill 4 bags guys solo? push em off a cliff !

Hope you thought my laughing was deserved Just getting vengeance for my WolF friends, haha.

I have never felt so outplayed

TrashBoat.2507:

We aren’t discussing the same incident in which case.

insanemaniac.2456:

careful, [bags] doesnt like it when theyre dumb enough to follow someone into fully upgraded keep guards and 2 of their 4 die to 1 person. they try to troll you by letting you rot in downed state the next time you fight 4v4.

lol

So far your server has placed a cataptult on 3 seperate occasions on the northwest tower vista in the last matchup and the current one in order to counter a catapult placed by Bags to take down the wall. All catapults were extremely out of range of our own. One was placed by a player with the [GWTD] tag. THAT was dumb.

That’s right IoJ stay in your bay. You can’t deal with the superiority of the ss DDLG

Theftwind.8976:

dreztina.4820:

Strever.8764:

dreztina.4820:

I think HoD is the saddest server I’ve seen since Yak’s Bend. Even the roamers are chicken kittens who won’t fight without outnumbering you.

I don’t know which roamers you’re talking about but you obviously haven’t been meeting our serious roamers.

Maybe you do have a roaming guild or two that isn’t that way. Sadly, in all the hours I’ve spent roaming this matchup, I’ve yet to meet a single one of them.

I always roam. In fact I take back all those camps you send 10+ to capture but I do it solo. I have yet to see a solo roamer in our BL that will stand and fight against me, they will run until their reinforcements arrive.

Please don’t tell me your idea of solo roaming is soloing camps

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Had you just made a joking comment like you destroyed our fight club, I might have been ok with it but because there was a serious reason behind that I’m just really saddened. I don’t understand why there are people that seem to play wvw strictly for ppt.

How don’t you understand…? WvW, just like any other aspect of the game, has a competitive nature that some people are drawn too. That’s why the tier system exists. It’s also kinda silly how in a game where the object is to kill the enemy is a war type condition, is busy being buddy buddy with each other. They have other parts of the game for organized group fights, called sPvP. Also, it would be more disrespectful to your little fight club if we destroyed it for nothing but the lolz. At least with reason, it gives some clarification as to WHY we beat all of you down.

We’re having fun in a game. You are all destroying our fun for ppt reasons. Need more reasons why this sounds pathetic on many levels?

I don’t know, competitive nature is usually killing one person’s fun for the sake of his own fun, and let me tell you, we sure had a LOT of fun. So is your fun more important that mine, or Flappy’s, or anyone elses for that matter? Nope, and neither is ours compared to yours, our version of fun just happened to be victorious.

At the expense of our own fun that was not interfering with yours? There was no reason to run a zerg through that group. They weren’t even flipping camps. Your commander just thinks that in order to prove that his guild is not one collective pile of kitten, needs to run over an organized event that has no ability to fight back in numbers. If fun for you is running zergs through no resistance and bragging about then that is not only stupid but it is also horribly pathetic.

I’ll forgive you for saying it was all the commander’s decision, mainly cause you don’t know. Everyone who killed you all, was asked if they object to doing so, and we all were more than happy to kill you all. Why? Cause that’s the point of the game. And you’re wrong on another point. Your fun does affect ours. By staying in that spot, nothing was happening on the rest of the map, making for a boring night. By killing you all, we actually enjoyed the night. And while bragging may be pathetic, raging and whining and more or less wishing harm to people because of said “Pathetic actions” is just as equally pathetic. And in all honesty, it’s a world filled with people who originally want you dead, you should plan some sort of defense in case things go wrong anyhow.

We had 2 commanders on the map, EB had a lot of fights going on. We don’t plan defense as we don’t usually expect servers to be filled with kittens like [Mend] the last interrupted fightclub was in early june. You will not justify running through a bunch of people meeting little resistance and then chest thumping it on the forums.
You are terrible and so is your guild. Remember: DDLG is looking for 15 v 15 GvG’s I saw 20+ in your zerg so why not GvG us?

Actually this is funny, we were all wishing for GvG today. Sadly, WvW is not the place to do it. It wastes time. (Albeit doing what we did today could probably also be counted as a waste of time, but it was a fun waste of time) And how exactly did we chest thump it? When I came on the forums, I saw no one from mend until Flappy posted his reasonings. (That wasn’t chest thumping by the way). All that was here is people complaining cause we ruined a little organized event that can be remade any day of the week. In the end, you’re just complaining. I guess I’ll apologize for ruining your fun, but I won’t apologize for having mine. It doesn’t make me a bad person, and it sure as hell doesn’t make anyone from Mend a bad person.

Yes WvW is gthe place to GvG, yes it was chest thumping; read the post. I don’t understand how a guild people who only engage in fights when they outnumber their enemies, kitten out of gvgs and interrupt other’s fun for no reason can be considered ‘good’ by any means.

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Flappybob.1950:

Not even going to deny it, we DESTROYED that fight night, for a few great reasons.
A: WvW is two things, capping/getting points and killing enemies – having those enemies behind our lines was not gonna fly as we were taking camps, and beyond that we were killing the red enemies on our screens, good times.
B: The week has been so sparse with so few enemies coming to fight us, and just poor engagements in general that we were hoping the LEET roamers that inhabit fight night would come out and fight us, rather than fleeing repeatedly when if they had all banded together they would have had at least the same number.
C: Fight club is an exercise of people wasting time in wvw and taking away maximum ppt from the server in general, SPvP is the place to go for 1v1 or small group combat, if you’re in WvW you can expect to be attacked at any time.
D: The whispers I got were great, but I won’t risk an infraction by posting that kind of stuff here.

Had you just made a joking comment like you destroyed our fight club, I might have been ok with it but because there was a serious reason behind that I’m just really saddened. I don’t understand why there are people that seem to play wvw strictly for ppt.

How don’t you understand…? WvW, just like any other aspect of the game, has a competitive nature that some people are drawn too. That’s why the tier system exists. It’s also kinda silly how in a game where the object is to kill the enemy is a war type condition, is busy being buddy buddy with each other. They have other parts of the game for organized group fights, called sPvP. Also, it would be more disrespectful to your little fight club if we destroyed it for nothing but the lolz. At least with reason, it gives some clarification as to WHY we beat all of you down.

We’re having fun in a game. You are all destroying our fun for ppt reasons. Need more reasons why this sounds pathetic on many levels?

I don’t know, competitive nature is usually killing one person’s fun for the sake of his own fun, and let me tell you, we sure had a LOT of fun. So is your fun more important that mine, or Flappy’s, or anyone elses for that matter? Nope, and neither is ours compared to yours, our version of fun just happened to be victorious.

At the expense of our own fun that was not interfering with yours? There was no reason to run a zerg through that group. They weren’t even flipping camps. Your commander just thinks that in order to prove that his guild is not one collective pile of kitten, needs to run over an organized event that has no ability to fight back in numbers. If fun for you is running zergs through no resistance and bragging about then that is not only stupid but it is also horribly pathetic.

Trx.5298:

Stewie.3549:

Flappybob.1950:

Not even going to deny it, we DESTROYED that fight night, for a few great reasons.
A: WvW is two things, capping/getting points and killing enemies – having those enemies behind our lines was not gonna fly as we were taking camps, and beyond that we were killing the red enemies on our screens, good times.
B: The week has been so sparse with so few enemies coming to fight us, and just poor engagements in general that we were hoping the LEET roamers that inhabit fight night would come out and fight us, rather than fleeing repeatedly when if they had all banded together they would have had at least the same number.
C: Fight club is an exercise of people wasting time in wvw and taking away maximum ppt from the server in general, SPvP is the place to go for 1v1 or small group combat, if you’re in WvW you can expect to be attacked at any time.
D: The whispers I got were great, but I won’t risk an infraction by posting that kind of stuff here.

Had you just made a joking comment like you destroyed our fight club, I might have been ok with it but because there was a serious reason behind that I’m just really saddened. I don’t understand why there are people that seem to play wvw strictly for ppt.

How don’t you understand…? WvW, just like any other aspect of the game, has a competitive nature that some people are drawn too. That’s why the tier system exists. It’s also kinda silly how in a game where the object is to kill the enemy is a war type condition, is busy being buddy buddy with each other. They have other parts of the game for organized group fights, called sPvP. Also, it would be more disrespectful to your little fight club if we destroyed it for nothing but the lolz. At least with reason, it gives some clarification as to WHY we beat all of you down.

We’re having fun in a game. You are all destroying our fun for ppt reasons. Need more reasons why this sounds pathetic on many levels?

mexay.3902:

Take your god kitten fight clubs somewhere else!

Not IoJ borderlands. Take it to some back corner of EB JP or something that’s out of the way. If you’re in our borderlands, you’re a threat and we will kill you.

Yes because sitting behind the windmill not capping anything is clearly a massive threat to IoJ. Do you understand that wvw actually has the ability to be fun and is not just dropping ACs to kill your enemies when you outnumber them?

Banzie.5248:

Sororita.3465:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Pentzski.4620:

God kitten , GoM. So many golems.

Judging by your mini-map, that’s quite a good amount of trebs you’ve got there as well. Muni, are you guesting on DR this week? :P

Nope, i was under the impression zombieland didnt like golems anyways, presumably….
They must have ditched them after they took hills.

just having fun in EB, well bombing zergs

Im pretty sure we’ve hardly wiped in EB tonight, Maybe 2-3 times. You guys on the other hand.

We in DR are so proud of you guys. Hardly wiping to doors must be a real accomplishment.

Epsilon Atreides.3816:

Legion.1569:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z8tjO3iNAA

yeah bro you diffidently wiped us. Guildie managed to capture this video. Dont worry we wiped that same zerg again 5 minutes later without the cannons.

This was the first time we wiped you after you wiped us the second time, from your own youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDoR1mrcAg

But the person in your guild stopped recording it before you wiped.

I don’t think we’re questioning your skill. Just your take on reality, and manners.

By that time GoM was pushing us from behind and we had 10. GG nice wipe.

If forums wars increase ppt DR would be t1

Wenrolio.8063:

To the DR thief with the [Bags] tag that I was dueling on my black and pink elementalist just a bit ago:

Good fights. Sorry I had to leave; it was time for work. Also, shame we kept getting interrupted.

I’ll keep my eyes open and princess wand at the ready next time I’m on.

Or you could randomly send a pm my way on the off chance that I am online- Wenrulon

Yes, sorry about that we were in a bit of a traffic zone though. I’ll pm you when I get the chance.

arKRazor.8654:

Stewie.3549:

How is this even fun for you IoJ? It’s 7 in the morning and you are capping everything against our skeleton morning crew. So far this whole matchup is battle of the night crews and who has more oceanics. You’re “prime-time” can’t take a fully upgraded keep from us so why not let your oceanics do the heavy lifting when they have hardly any opposition.

Listen, I love a close and bloody fight as much as the next guy. That said, however, you can’t expect people to forgo their favorite activity because resistance is light during their activity frame.

You can expect them to press any advantages they have, when they have them. We’ll be doing the same.

I don’t expect IoJ to stop I simply asked the question is this really a fun matchup when the oceanics do almost everything?

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Stewie.3549:

How is this even fun for you IoJ? It’s 7 in the morning and you are capping everything against our skeleton morning crew. So far this whole matchup is battle of the night crews and who has more oceanics. You’re “prime-time” can’t take a fully upgraded keep from us so why not let your oceanics do the heavy lifting when they have hardly any opposition.

Are you new to DR? Or?

Every week night we’ve capped DRs stuff since we first versed them!

No I’ve known this. Doesn’t make it less annoying however.

How is this even fun for you IoJ? It’s 7 in the morning and you are capping everything against our skeleton morning crew. So far this whole matchup is battle of the night crews and who has more oceanics. You’re “prime-time” can’t take a fully upgraded keep from us so why not let your oceanics do the heavy lifting when they have hardly any opposition.

Toggles.1783:

Aaruhn.7049:

fix it. No reason that a class should have so much mitigation (i.e. stealth) in it and damage burst. No way a class should be able to go into a 20 man zerg without fear of dying. Get in trouble? Go into stealth and run.

mitigation

1. the act of mitigating, or lessening the force or intensity of something unpleasant, as wrath, pain, grief, or extreme circumstances
2. the act of making a condition or consequence less severe
3. the process of becoming milder, gentler, or less severe.

Thief does not have any mitigation through stealth. Thief takes just as much damage from attacks whether stealthed or not. You just don’t see the numbers because it’d give away the player’s location.

What Thief does have from stealth is deception/trickery/confusion, and I don’t mean the in game terms.

As for the 20 man zerg comment… yeah I’m sure that happens all the time. A 20 man zerg that lets a Thief get away is a 20 man zerg that doesn’t know what they’re doing or is dreadfully all spec’d and gear’d in the same unfortunate way.

I do agree that the d/p stealth build is very cheese though.

Just stand inside the black powder and reveal them when they heartseeker into you.

My best suggestion, as with any class, you should play that class in PvP. Try to get into a thief mindset so you understand them better when fighting them. Now let me pick apart your post. 1. This post is whining no matter how you look at it. 2. Stealth = Invulnerable. When you are fighting a thief and he stealths, you would be an idiot to sit around waiting for the backstab. Run around trying to hit them, many thieves that rely on backstab damage tend to be incredibly glassy. 3. All classes can have enormous damage if spec’d correctly, not just thieves. Lastly I’d like to point out that mesmers, especially clone mesmers can be very effective against thieves. With all the combined damage and not being able to figure out which clone is the real one at points, mesmers can melt a thief’s health down in no time.

Yep was having a good duel with another thief today, went to c&d, health went to 25% and revealed, pretty much ending the duel right there. It has to be one of the most poorly implemented traits out of any class.

I know that a majority of DH are not cheaters/hackers/exploiters but this AC exploit is really getting out of hand. You had a 30+ man zerg+2 golems taking bay and we had 10+ people defending it yet somebody still felt the need to use AC exploit.

Although it is a bit late. The fight in DR BL yesterday night for Hills was one of the best times I have had in WvW in a while.