To much stealth, damage and mobility. Enough already devs it, time for the nerfbat to strike this op class.
Pls delete this topic thx
Post a video please. Also can you post a unbuffed stat pic ?
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Not sure.
You were good enough playing, but I still believe your HP is far too low.
We hit for around the same and I have almost 20k. I use rune of soldier btw. (and a tanky spec, but on a squishier one I have 17k)
Any build over 16k imo is sacrificing too much. I would like to see a video of your ww hitting for 5k with 20k hp. I call bs it may hit for 3k once in a While. To th op dont listen to the nae sayers most of these hp stackers are bad and they need a buffer to stay alive
You should run maintenance oil and bowl of lemongrass poultry soup with this build
I was talking about Judges intervention not merciful …. merciful is a dungeon skill IMO
AND when combined with Sword 3 it gives u 1800m of instant Blink add that to GS 3 and wow 2400M, you can be gone fast but you have to practice this. The trick is u have to target something ahead of u IE any enemy on the flank or a creature etc. We need a trait for Ground targeting Meditations IMO.
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had a good in game chat with OP he seems like a good person and is gonna role a ele. Sweet gl and hope you like it better.
Listen man I came here to try and help you out but you seem to know it all. You have L2P issues but can’t admit that because you’re so L33T nothing more to do here m8. I would still help you in game if you like. PST me anytime we can Wv3 togethor depending on server.
Can we just end this thread now and let the op go be a ele so we can kill him on his new toon? Really nothing you have stated is true. It’s just your lack of knowledge about your class and more so other classes. My advice is you should spend a couple weeks in spvp and learn counters.
It’s not that we don’t get it bro but that we don’t get players that refuse to l2p. No class can 1v1 me, hell most can’t 2v1 me period except for a very geared and very good Pistol/dagger thief … that’s the only class that even makes me think. I feel very usefull in groups because i swap my traits out and weps to be more effective. I carry 6 weps when I WvW, 2 sets of jewels etc. If you can’t get that it isn’t the game it’s the player then GL with any other class because we wil be reading " Stopped playing ele in WVW. This is why" in a month.
I am done trying to help you i looked up your posts and all are negative. You are not a good player and never will be because you know it all and no amount of gold can will change that m8. IMO you are very clueless about our class. I think Gw2 is just not your game.
I know you do not want to here it but you are not doing it right. No matter what class you play you will feel this strain until you figure it out. Mabey the classes play style just isn’t you or your spec/gear setup is messed up or you’re not using the right food etc. Anyway If you would post details of your spec/gear it would help, a Stat pic would also help.
V/R m8 but i will stick by what I said before if you’re strggling with guardian you are going through your pc out the window playing an ele.
Personally, as a Guardian I only have trouble escaping if I am outplayed.
I run Scepter and Hammer, don’t usually switch to anything else, ever.H3 has a bind, though you need to be facing your enemy to use it. It’s helpful if you can see the need to escape early.
H5 is a wall that your enemies will have to run around if they want to chase you.
Scepter 3 is a bind that you can cast on the move as long as you have line of sight. I can’t count the number of times I have use auto target while trucking away from a group and used Scepter 3 on an invader that I can’t even see on my screen.
Scepter 4 is a blind, can’t remember if I am able to cast this behind me like S3, but a miss is a miss.This is where things get fun, if you have scepter you have 5-6 aegises at your disposal. Your virtue of courage passive blocks one attack. Pop S5, blocks the next three incoming attacks (within the time limit of course). “Retreat” ulility skill gives you another Aegis plus a speed boost. Finally you have the virtue active which blocks ANOTHER attack. Dont’ forget the Elite “renewed focus” which grants you 3 seconds of invulerability on the move, and recharges your virtues giving you ANOTHER 1-2 aegis.
For utility slots, slot in “Stand Your ground” which gives you five seconds of stability, and “Save Yourselves” which grants you a butt ton of boons and is also a stun breaker.
All this plus Virtue of Resolve and Signet of Resolve for healing, I personally rarely have no problem escaping.
Edit: Sure, I don’t do much damage, but the Guardian doesn’t do enough burst damage anyhow to spec for damage in WvW IMO. I usually make my focus following groups of people around, then lock down enemies and let the spike damage/DPSers take them down.
Scepter has no 4 and 5. What offhand are you using?
Whoops, I am using a Focus for my offhand. Better go fix that.
If it’s blind like he states he’s using scepter/focus lol no wonder he is having issues. This isn’t a class issues it’s a player skill/knowledge issue. I am going to just say now if you had a hard time with Guardian you will fail much harder at Elementist or just end up being a Staff ele, which is fine but don’t say it’s not a skill/knowledge issue when it obviously is.
Well made video, 100% not my play style
Torch is too easy to dodge, most guardians only use a s sceptor/shield for walls but IMO this setup is why I never loose 1v1 or 2v1 fights. Torch is fine but it goes better with a 1h sword meditaion build imo. You will never land torch on a good pvp’r for more then 2 ticks.
As far as mobility goes the only classes that can escape me are Thief and Elementist, the rest i can run down with my perma swiftness, GS skills and Scepter imobilize or Shield KB/AOE
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I understand your frustration as it took me w while to find the build that works, IMO your entire post is incorrect here watch this……
You need to remove all those extra gems you can’t hit the stats in your build witout runnig PVE dungeons. This build will have 14k HP and 2400 Armor, 1200 tougness in WV3 these build calcs are not very acurate when it comes to wv3 gear. As far as glass cannon comment if you are going to be below 1800 you may as well jsut have 960 as it isn’t going to matter much. I am certain you will get eaten alive by conditions in this spec/gear setup.
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Read the post “BEAT mode Guardian” just google it. It’sd the best build for what you are trying to do. IMO Glass cannons Guards just dont work in Wv3, they are fine in Spvp and Tpvp even but not here. I spent a long time trying to perfect it and the AH build is better in so many ways.
Ele have a similar build as do Necro, Warrior, Thief, Ranger, Eng which IMO is the best Bunker next to ele. I am not sure about mesmer but im pretty sure all classes have a “Bunker” type build. Guardian is easiest to counter by far.
Me having some fun in Wv3 my 1st try at videos … made it too long thus the reason for splitting it. Well hope you enjoy.
PART 1
Part 2
Me having some fun in Wv3 my 1st try at videos … made it too long thus the reason for splitting it. Well hope you enjoy.
PART 1
Part 2
Send PM ingame if you want my setup
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You were attacked by a glass cannon, and it seems you’re a glassy guardian? Look at your crit chance. That is nearly as high as a thief glass cannons and guardians have pretty big base health to start with, but you only have 18k.
So yes, I agree with you that the class/build is fine
. You just need to change your gear with more toughness/vitality stats and you’ll survive a regular burst without a sweat.
Obviously you didn’t even look a t my pics I posted did you? I have OVER 2K toughness and OVER 3200 Armor … so yea I guess I am glass cannon. lol
This damage, all in 2 seconds, should not be possible with my stats PERIOD no matter what you say.
That’s 18,804 damage in 2 seconds, yea this class/build is fine lol
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Blah blah you play a fotm op class and think you’re special lol ok
This class IMO need either a big damage reduction or a 50% Initiative regen increase or add GCD to many of thier skills that they chain togethor for 20k insta gibs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PgL1Gwgc_8
this video makes the class look super OP and no class should be auto attacking for 3k hits.
LOL do you think you play well or something, 90% or the time you just spam auto attacks and hit for 3k+ with them, why would you even post this? You must really be trying to get thieves nerfed more.
Why do I get “BAD LINK”
Daily bump until this is responded too by ANET
Wth dose culling have to do with using this exploit?
It boggles the mind that anyone would even consider this a legit tactic. It is an obvious oversight on anet’s part and am sure it will be fixed. To any of you who use this well just l2p seriously.
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It certainly does matter if you are trying to get gear with tokens. There just simply needs to be a logout timer it’s very easy to put it. Even high pop servers have low or no ques now so this will become more of a issue.
I don’t see what’s wrong with implementing a 15 minute deserter debuff. At least you’d get some satisfaction of knowing that player removed themselves from WvW for an extended amount of time.
Any everyone who lags out would be sitting in overflow.
It’s really ok if people log out, really. It just doesn’t matter, if anything it offers you an advantage. I vote for more enemy players logging out when they die.
Perhaps Anet should force downed players to disconnect and not be able to get back into wvw for an hour. Then, would you be happy?
I am tired of downed people escaping by Combat logging with alt f4. ANET Please add a 30 Second CD to logout tyvm.
I waited for this game for so very long and have loved it until yesterday, I was in shock and had the same feeling in my gut as I had when the NGE hit SWG. I won’t go through this again and I am now in search of a new pvp game.
Did Anet hire Smedly?
Raw spike combos of the backstab build will get addressed but I would imagine BS will remain as is.
the “combo setup” (Steal/Mug/Cloak and Dagger) before the backstab is actually more powerful than the backstab itself and is the large spike of raw damage that will get toned down
Infiltrators signet will not apply MUG damage and can therefore be overlooked
3 more days to go until the fix.
Yup they are all chainable cast in 1 second on razor naga .. it’s a joke really 20K is possible on a squishy.
Oh and pls NERF CLUSTER BOMB too
seriously, i dont know how you guys can do so much dmg with backstab. in the mist on heavy golems with glass cannon build and armor etc. i got only 4-7k crit with backstab.
Whatever you hit for on that golem you can nearly double it on a well defense speced player.
Personally I think BS needs a GCD and HS just needs the jump removed. Stealth needs to be reworked with a longer cool down. I am fine with thiefs having big burst but not with easy mode crap from stealth.
IMO it’s another BUG and exploiting a BUG to your advantage is an exploit. You are more than likely sorry you posted this lols.
The best guardians in this game do not even have retaliation, as it is a cheap crutch that will be chipped away at until it’s useless …….. Yes full Offensive is possible and guess what for WvW you don’t even need any valor points to run it.
You are talking about pve this is a pvp thread and if you’re not then you must be terrible because everything in your post is off.
NO wonder this class is so messed up …. you all have no clue wtf you’re doing. Torch is one of our best weapons period I do 10k with my torch and remove condition while doing so idk maybe you guys have a BIC lighter equipped? I only speak of PvP because and PvE comment is not relevant since it’s so simple in this game.
I think you’re the one who has no idea what he’s doing.
Sword/Torch is a bad combo for the following reasons:
1) Zealot’s Flame is decent but you get a lot of burn already from the sword just from passive justice. Auto-attack chain is 5 hits and comes out fast and ZD is 8. Since burn only stacks in intensity, you’re getting reduced benefit from the burn since you’re already burning 1/3rd of the time anyway.
2) Cleansing Flames does large total damage but is extremely slow. In the amount of time it takes to do a full Cleansing Flames you can actually get MORE damage out of the auto-attack. In fact, the only 1H weapon where Cleansing Flames beats the auto-attack in damage is the scepter. I personally tested this. It’s true. Don’t argue with it.
3) Cleansing Flames does not remove conditions from yourself, only allies.
As such, the only purpose of the move outside of a scepter/torch removal of conditions from allies, or as a poor man’s AOE if you have no other option (and you do). I suggest you test these things before you make broad generalizations about them.
I also do not recommend using Mace/Focus since the regen application overlaps between Symbol of Faith and Ray of Judgment. Also, Shield of Wrath prevents the counter from Protector’s Strike from triggering, so you lose a lot of damage and only gain a few seconds of protection. This is more debatable of a combination than sword/focus but one way or another it’s not optimal.
For sword, I recommend using focus offhand. It’s the most damage-oriented of the offhands due to the burst potential from Shield of Wrath.
Guards have a “blink” mate, it’s just 99% of these guards here don’t use it.
Looks like a team paradigm build to me lol you invented it haha.
NO wonder this class is so messed up …. you all have no clue wtf you’re doing. Torch is one of our best weapons period I do 10k with my torch and remove condition while doing so idk maybe you guys have a BIC lighter equipped? I only speak of PvP because and PvE comment is not relevant since it’s so simple in this game.
It’s fn stupid and needs to be nerfed asap. I say get rid of portals and stealth period they seems to cause the most problems with exploits anyway.