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Welp, you’d get to beat on them in WvW! And Stone Summit too!
As to a race every dragon, this would be VERY interesting. The ideas I have for that would be:
Primordus = Dwarves
Jormag = Kodan
Kralkatorik = Elonian Undead (Under Palawa Joko)
Bubbles = Tengu?
I think I missed a dragon besides Zhaitan.
The Dwarves are all “dead” are they not?
Dead as in no longer living? Yes. But since when did ‘this race must be made out of organic material’ ever be a prerequisite for a playable race?
And if you mean dead as in dead dead and no longer about – Then read my OP!
It’s the very fact they are not actually ‘living’ that, as I have said, makes them different from dwarves of other settings and even sets them apart from other races in the GW2 setting. They would fill their own little niche rather than intruding on the ground of other races.
Hello there! I’ve been pondering this possibility for a while now, and I wanted to ask what the chances are that we may see them as playable in the future?
Here are the most significant reasons I believe they can be interesting in many different ways:
What was said before on the subject of the dwarves, that they were too stereotypical fantasy and unoriginal, is, I feel, false. The very fact that the dwarves would be resurgent would be bucking the stereotype, and the fact that they would be made of stone, essentially sentient golems, also does this. They can also fit the ‘One internal enemy, one external enemy’ theme that all the current races have (Like Flame Legion and Ghosts for Charr), in the Stone Summit and Destroyers (Like Nightmare Court and Risen for sylvari).
The parralels between the Great Dwarf and the Pale Tree are, whilst not obvious, there. The Pale Tree’s seed was created by the world itself. Surely a resurgent dwarf race would help reinforce the feeling that the world itself is fighting back against the dragons – tree and rock, twig and pebble. They have been a part of the dragon’s defeat before, and could be viewed as a tremendous asset that improves the chances the world has against the dragons significantly. And their return would give the human race a much needed boost – Other races say the humans are dying, and the return of the dwarves would help prove that the ‘elder races’ are not dead yet, nor have any intention of dying.
Perhaps in a desperate effort to combat Primordus, the dwarves are forced to use a form of necromancy – Creating stone golems and infusing them with the souls of dead dwarves in order to bolster their ranks against the unending Destroyer hordes? (Which, in turn, leads to the return of the Stone Summit due to errors in the summoning process and resulting in ‘undesireable’ souls entering roughly half of the prepared stone bodies, sort of shooting themselves in the proverbial foot) That could be perfect for a personal story for the dwarf character – Finding himself after being ‘risen’ in this manner, and finding his purpose in fighting with other races of the world against the Elder Dragons. Overcoming the isolationism of the remaining dwarves that have been fighting for 200 years and eventually changing their opinions.
The dwarves may not have a future beyond the Elder Dragon threat, but seeing as they are so intimately tied story-wise to the Dragons, it’s not that out of place (They fought all of them, not just Primordus, in history). And isn’t the Elder Dragon threat the whole point of GW2 and its potential expansions? So the dwarves do still fit in and they can still eventually fade away once the dragons are done. It would be the perfect bitter sweet ending for them. Go out in a final blaze of glory fighting all the Elder Dragons alongside the other races of the world, as they did in ages past, though naturally the option for them to simply live on in peace is also there.
ArenaNet has back tracked significantly on dwarves. They’ve gone from “Extinct” to “Rumours they are about.” to Ogden in Arah Explorable outright stating “They are fighting Primordus.” so the way is open.
ArenaNet – You are capable of making dwarves different and unique. You have the tools to do so written into your own lore! So why not give it a shot?
And as a final thing – Don’t think I haven’t seen that capital city sized blob in the Deldrimor Front area on the world map! Wasn’t Thunderhead Keep in that rough location?
This music demands a remastered version! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnflSWxyEWI
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First off it has not been specifically state that the dwarfs cannot reproduce. You can making an assumption by saying “doom their race by extinction” they meant “unable to reproduce”
Wow, and people thought that I was desperate for thinking sylvari might be able to reproduce, but stone dwarves?!?
Actually it was specified many times in Guild Wars: Eye of the North that by taking part in the ritual, the dwarves were ending their race in order to get rid of the Great Destroyer (which I did for them :P) So the dwarves are done for, no resurrection. As stated by the game itself.
… Actually. Ogden in Arah Explorable outright states the dwarves are still fighting Primordus.
I have the personal theory that we’ll be seeing dwarves, if not playable, then definitely playing a major part later on in the story when Primordus is added.
Simple theory, really – The Pale Tree and sylvari. Why can the same concept not apply to Stone Dwarves? The Pale Tree’s seed was created by the world, the dwarves are native to the world, the same theory that new dwarves can be created out of stone and infused with the souls of dead dwarves is a credible one – Similar to how they were created in the first place. There are parralels between what we know of the Great Dwarf and what we know of the Pale Tree, it is not outlandish to suggest the concept can be replicated. It would still be believable rather than ‘ripping off’ the sylvari concept. It would simply be expanding on the world’s own efforts to combat the dragons.
We have plant people, why not stone people?
The argument that dwarves are ‘too samey’ to a fantasy universe is a false one, seeing how they are -already- different by the virtue of being made out of stone, and being essentially sentient golems. And Arenanet -can- make them different to stereotypical dwarves if they want to, and I would personally love to see it. They already have their ‘enemies’ in the form of a potential resurgent Stone Summit and Dredge (Or Destroyers, like Risen are for sylvari), like Humans have Bandits and Centaur. Not to mention that dwarves being resurgent would -also- be bucking the stereotype in of itself.
Arenanet has also backtracked significantly on the issue of the state of the dwarves – It’s gone from “Extinct” to “Rumours they are about” to Ogden outright saying “They are fighting”.
Another crackpot theory of mine – Look at the world map, below the Deldrimor Front area. There is a blurred blob roughly the size of a capital city, in a similar location to where Thunderhead Keep was in GW1.
What can I say, I’m a dwarf fan. But having said that I wouldn’t mind it if they went out with style, or as a result of something any race would have been wiped out when faced with. Idea for that is all the remaining dragons at once mercilessly exterminating the dwarves, say they were freaking out that a race that was part of their defeat the last time is still about giving Primordus, one of the most powerful Elder Dragons, a migraine.
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