Guild Wars 2

i am surprised no one really focused on the 7 month’s portion, maybe more then just a calculation…it was a clue that the item won’t be put in game for a while to come?

you can guest and find people to do it on another server or even use lfg to mishmash a party of people from every server

i lol’d, a bit too hard i might add.

you are gonna complain about 4 more of a stats? that 1 extra damage/20 extra hp will surely make all the difference. they have only implemented 4 ascended items, 3 of which are obtainable with nearly no effort(just takes longer).

the obvious problem is that casual players feel entitled to get everything new as soon as it comes out with little to no effort.

Redfeather.6401:

Including wvw for map completion was the epitomy of wishful thinking on the developers part. Way too many factors beyond any players control that can completely block all progress towards map completion.

i agree, i had to get me my 1800 gems to transfer to finish wvw maps, though it doesn’t have to do with precursors lol that is a different problem

Will.9785:

Thoughtless.7148:

i have seen at least 15 precursors drop over the last 2-3 months, 1 of which was mine. i don’t advocate for them to be impossible to get, they are not at this time.

It’s not impossible to hit the lottery either.

you are right, there are winners every week/day across the country and the world, its nice to see you understand that there are always people out there getting precursors, just because it’s not you doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

Xaaz.8472:

Thoughtless.7148:

NOTE: JQ is the top server on tier 1, they gain every location in all of wvw, maybe not at the same time, at least 3 times a week. it is extremely simple, with some patience to finish off all the wvw maps within a week if you are on jade quarry

This I will agree with…for the people on our server. I finished 4 alts in all the PvP zones last week (main was done quite a while ago).

However, there are many servers that will never hold those points and people should not have to pay to leave their server to finish map completion.

i wholeheartedly agree with that as i had to transfer to finish my wvw map, but the point was that the majority of people who spend their time to kitten about how hard it is to get a precursor are probably not even putting in the effort as they don’t put that effort into accomplishing far easier tasks

let me reiterate that i know a few of the characters associated with the accounts that argue the points that precursors are too hard to get

Will.9785:

Thoughtless.7148:

if everyone has it, is it really legendary? of course you want a Lamborghini for the price of a civic…everyone would jump at that chance.

So now we know why you really made this post, you made a legendary and you don’t want other people to get theirs because then you wouldn’t feel special. Tough. Why should the fact that other people have something affect your enjoyment of the game? Here’s a hint: it shouldn’t. You my friend may have what’s known as a superiority complex.

If you bought a car for 50k last year, should someone looking to buy the same car months or years down the line pay more than you did?

you are equating a legendary to a run of the mill chevy or ford that lose 40% of the value the second you are off the lot, it is not a normal every day item.

i don’t have a superiority complex, i am truely overjoyed when a person who has tried so hard visiting jormag for ages finally get there’s . i have seen at least 15 precursors drop over the last 2-3 months, 1 of which was mine. i don’t advocate for them to be impossible to get, they are not at this time. i know a few of the people on here who complain and let me tell you, they are the ones that complain about not being able to get SoR’s red locations in wvw when they are on jade quarry…they feel they are entitled to get things without effort, and i do not support that

NOTE: JQ is the top server on tier 1, they gain every location in all of wvw, maybe not at the same time, at least 3 times a week. it is extremely simple, with some patience to finish off all the wvw maps within a week if you are on jade quarry

Quick Mouse.7635:

Thoughtless.7148:

if everyone has it, is it really legendary? of course you want a Lamborghini for the price of a civic…everyone would jump at that chance.

Even if the price of precursors dropped to something more reasonable, say 200-300g,
they would still cost a fortune because of everything else required to make them.

why not invest that money into a precursor? everything for a legendary is farmable, as i stated people complain about the precursor while paying 500+ for the mats for the gifts…in for a penny in for a pound, wouldn’t you say

Will.9785:

Thoughtless.7148:

im guessing you havent farmed much? you are right, there was no gun to my head, it was my choice. BUT consider the time involved, 600 dragons over a month or over 5 monthes is still 600 dragons. why should everyone be able to get in 5 dragons down rthe line because a small group complained hard enough

I’ve farmed enough to know that something’s got to give. It isn’t a small group of people either. Most folks don’t have legendaries therefore I bet if you asked the majority would be in favor of such a change.

if everyone has it, is it really legendary? of course you want a Lamborghini for the price of a civic…everyone would jump at that chance.

edit: thats actually a bad comparison as a Lamborghini is far superior to a civic, where as legendaries are exactly the same as exotics. i guess it would be like buying a 3 bedroom house house in Beverly hills as opposed to one in pasadena. same house, just the prestige makes one cost hundreds of thousands if not milions more

Will.9785:

Thoughtless.7148:

and how many people on the forums have actually put in this much effort into obtaining one? i assure you most haven’t. and i probably did close to 600 dragons to get my dusk, not to mention the toilet and fractals.

So basically you are saying that because you decided to put in the work that they should never ever make them easier to obtain? Why? Because it wouldn’t be fair (in your mind) to you? No one put a gun to your head and made you do 600 dungeons.

im guessing you havent farmed much? you are right, there was no gun to my head, it was my choice. BUT consider the time involved, 600 dragons over a month or over 5 monthes is still 600 dragons. why should everyone be able to get in 5 dragons down rthe line because a small group complained hard enough

edit: i see you edited your post, cool beans bro…

if they release an easier way to obtain legendaries then it should come out further down the line, you are correct. if anything it should come out with a game expansion, im not saying they shouldn’t implement some way to do it. i just don’t think its appropriate to reward those with the biggest mouths and the largest stack of unfinished paperwork

Will.9785:

The OP’s post can basically be summed up as “screw you, I gots mine”.

No one is arguing against people putting in more work getting things sooner than casual players. The issue is the amount of work and RNG at play to begin with. If they doubled the rate at which precursors dropped then people who spent 5 hours a day doing dungeons would still get them faster than casuals. The only difference is that casuals might be able to actually get one before the expansion comes out.

actually, the op’s point, and im just guessing here…. is that how many have actually put in the massive effort to obtain one? i just feel people should do less Q.Q and more pewpew or FOR GRAPE JUSTICE as it were. sure there are those outliers who have spent countless hours trying to get one and haven’t, but that is the minority and i am extremely sorry for the poor luck you have with RNG. but most dont put in that effort

Quick Mouse.7635:

Everyone coming to the forums saying precursors are “ok” have already gotten their precursors through one form or another.
Say that to the person who has farmed 100s of dragon events, threw 100s of gold into the mystic forge, progressed to level 40 fractals, and has never gotten one.

and how many people on the forums have actually put in this much effort into obtaining one? i assure you most haven’t. and i probably did close to 600 dragons to get my dusk, not to mention the toilet and fractals.

Redfeather.6401:

Thoughtless, you’ve completely missed the point.

do tell? what is the point?

casual players should be awarded just as much as non casual players?

that seems to be the overriding concept behind most complaints

xCrusadentx.2784:

They’re not “fine”. RNG breaks all of that, Person A can get it on the first try, Person B can get it after 1K tries, and Person C could never get it, as it is always a chance and never guaranteed. Being determined and working hard for it means nothing if the the numbers generated do not let the precursor drop. TP proces continue to rise, kicking the majority of casuals from obtaining one. Not everyone should have one, but the opportunity for a person to get one should be equal amongst all players. They can be obtained with little time or not at all, and thatisn’t righ.

do you think it only takes a small amount of time to amass 700g? gold buying aside, just because you can buy something off TP doesn’t mean it was easy for you to reach the point where you were able to afford it. Most people with a legendary are probably not casual players, they have invested a large amount of time in getting the money or farming the items to make a legendary. Why do you think your time spent as a casual player is more important then that of a non casual player. as i stated in the OP i spent 5 hours a day or so farming dragons, does your 1 hour a day mean you are entitled to the same rewards i attained? Playing casually is fine, just don’t expect to get something as fast as those who invested more time

not everyone is a market manipulator though, take the twilight market into consideration.

the prices rose from 2499 to 2799 in 2 days. this happened gradually going up 100g at a time….consider it costs 125-140g to list said twilight. all it takes is 1 person to undercut them and they lose out on hundreds of gold and lots of time, and that is exactly what occurred, in 1 day the prices dropped back down to 2499 then 2299. Those trying to raise the price took a huge loss. manipulators do not always win so don’t think of them as some almighty rulers of the market

A. i feel as though the effort to obtain a precursor is perfectly reasonable. as Anet has stated and very very many people confer…legendaries are meant as LONG term goals and are merely cosmetic items.

B. how many people complaining that precursors are difficult to get spent hundreds of gold on lodestones and t6 mats? i guarantee you that nearly alot of many of the people purchased these items yet don’t come here to complain about those. You purchased them ages ago when they were cheap? well guess what, at that point in time there were equally as expensive except there was less money in the system so prices were lower. now that people have more money, it is only reasonable for prices to increase with wealth.

C. i personally farmed my dusk from dragons and spent a whole month doing nothing else. i think a month is a short time in comparison to the longevity this game will most likely have. I was lucky, but i also put in alot of time as a non casual player which would equate to a massive amount of time as a casual player

D. stop complaining on the forum and spend that time in game trying to get one

E. i know many people i see regularly at dragons that work hard to try and get a precursor and many that have indeed obtained one through their efforts.

i don’t think it fair that because some of you are
not lucky/not persistent/not wanting to activity farm one/wanting one right away cause YOU WANT IT NOW WAHHHH/only play a very short time a day,
my and very many others who spent a long time and were very dedicated to getting a precursor accomplishment should be reduced.

F. whats that? you say im a farmer? well guess what my 5 hours a day is exactly the same as your 1 hour a day, it just takes you 5 days to achieve the same amount of game play. thus, it should take you five times as long to achieve what i have. reasonable enough, no?

G. whats this? you want anet to step in and make changes to the precursor market? you think everyone with a precursor is a market manipulator and only wants to raise prices for the lulz(they lose 30-50g each time they try to raise the price, and hundreds of gold to try and raise legendaries a few hundred gold)?

what about those people that worked hard to get their precursors? what if that was you? what if anet decided to mess with the precursor market and reduce prices? would you want to be kittened out of your hard earned profit because a few people didn’t like the prices? what if you received dawn and wanted dusk? you would sell dawn to get dusk, wouldn’t you? now what if you can only get 100g for dawn? do you think that is right, do you think your effort is worth that little?

TL:DR Precursors are difficult to obtain and that is perfectly fine, just because you can get the rest of the gifts to make a legendary by throwing some gold at TP(dont lie, i bet you didn’t farm those loadstones) but don’t want to pay for a precursor, or investing minimal effort in spamming 1 dungeon or a jumping puzzle, DOES NOT MEAN everything should be easy. The most reasonable course of action is to make everything for the gifts as difficult to obtain as the precursor rather then making the precursor easier. Remember its a LONG TERM GOAL

imma get yelled at c; bother…just tired of all the threads complaining about precursors

you don’t have enough money to afford the listing fees

it is money paid in order to list the item, it isnt deducted from the profit you make off the item…that is another 10% not related to listing fees

use ash legion spy kit o kitten i just realized the one you mean ;c yea that one sucks. i have no helpful insight, i just got lucky with killing mos when i downed

obsidian shards or those orr treasure boxes i think those are the only karma items that are account bound

also, if the exotics are karma purchased i dont think you can salvage them

nono i dont wanna try unless i know itll work XD

is it possible to transmute twilight to a white thus making it account bound then transmuting the skin onto another character?

i regret putting it on a small character as my intention is to be a show off snob

yay thanks a bunch for that clarification, twilight of fire here i come

i want to change the sigil on my twilight, but im nervous that in doing so it will change from legendary status to exotic.

will changing the sigil still make it appear orange when linking it in chat or will it still be purple with the added sigil title?

thank you for your help c;