How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well d/P thieft doesnt do anything if u cant beat them run away till reset change to berserker stance and rofl at him while u stun lock him
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
playing aqrround a bit with mace/shield GS on a zerker warrior with 0 20 20 0 30 .. and i have to say well its strong you usually kill them with 1 4 sek stun and 1 full 100b. but well its wvw so 99% of the ppl dont know how to play but even experienced playsers will have problems if u stun lock them to death
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
So you want to nerf the sustain that we finally got since we have no access to protection or invulnerability?
Bull’s Rush is super telegraphed. If you get hit with it, it is your fault. Shield Bash is telegraphed and has a range of 300.
So if a Warrior stuns you with either Bull’s Rush or Shield Bash you missed the dodge or block. And if they have a mace you just need to wait for the SkullCrack to hit then use a stun breaker…
i wonder how you dodge it if you eat it at point blank range? ofcourse dodging is possible at point blank but in 99.99% they are random dodges coz u get to close or they are dodges after the feeling that the stun might come.. nobody can tell me he can dodge those stuns from 0 range on intention coz tehy see the animation(well when its laggy u might be lucky) coz this is beyond human capabilties
Why are you fighting a Warrior in Melee range?
because i play melee warrior?
As a Warrior, you have access to:
Endure Pain
Last Stand
Balanced Stance
Dolyak SignetYou can theoretically give yourself ~24 seconds of stability if you really wanted to, and another warrior isn’t stripping that. Endure Pain means you can stand in his 100B and do… whatever you want. 100B him back and laugh. Killshot him. I don’t care.
DO something.
As a Warrior, I use basically all of my utilities/traits besides 2 or 3 for defensive reasons. Mobile Strikes to make Immobilize not the end of me. Last Stand to let me shrug off the first round of CC. Dogged March. Signet Master or Warrior’s Sprint if I feel like Swiftness will get stripped. 30 points in Defense. Signet of Stam, Runes of Lyssa/Melandru, and Dolyak Sig/Balanced Stance.
I’m not as good at condi cleanse as I could be, but I sacrifice that to improve my ability to also fight against CC-locks/direct damage.
It’s give/take. Sometimes you have to put on your humility had and realize you need to play better. This is one of those times.
EDIT – And Excalibur, why do you think you should be able to just do whatever you want to do/normally do against all other classes against all classes/builds? Maybe sometimes you have to adapt, because another build does something better, like melee. Coming to the forums because you don’t want to try to adapt is the lowest form of feedback.
yes because i know what kind of warrior he runs or run slot skill only to face other warriors.. stupid suggestion. you can do it when u know that wearrior runs this and this.. thats what i do when i face for example d/p thiefs changing to berserker stance when i have the time but you cant run all day one kind of slot skill only to counter one single build
fact is its undodgeable on intention when u let the enemy warrior to close coz u wont see a stun coming especially when enemy is an asura.. and no i dont think mace build is op i think its pretty weak as you need way to much time to kill your enemy then with your axe.. and time is crucial when u face more then 1 enemy. especially when u have to stand still fpr more then 3 sec to cast 100b
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
So you want to nerf the sustain that we finally got since we have no access to protection or invulnerability?
Bull’s Rush is super telegraphed. If you get hit with it, it is your fault. Shield Bash is telegraphed and has a range of 300.
So if a Warrior stuns you with either Bull’s Rush or Shield Bash you missed the dodge or block. And if they have a mace you just need to wait for the SkullCrack to hit then use a stun breaker…
i wonder how you dodge it if you eat it at point blank range? ofcourse dodging is possible at point blank but in 99.99% they are random dodges coz u get to close or they are dodges after the feeling that the stun might come.. nobody can tell me he can dodge those stuns from 0 range on intention coz tehy see the animation(well when its laggy u might be lucky) coz this is beyond human capabilties
Why are you fighting a Warrior in Melee range?
because i play melee warrior?
yes the fact that this build relies to hit the stun to do dmg is kinda weak.. thats why i love to run axe/shield so u can fake rune away on thiefs and insta gib them when they have lowered their defense… even u dont hit axe f1 normal autooattack chain does arround same dps then 100b and u can move while doing
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
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So you want to nerf the sustain that we finally got since we have no access to protection or invulnerability?
Bull’s Rush is super telegraphed. If you get hit with it, it is your fault. Shield Bash is telegraphed and has a range of 300.
So if a Warrior stuns you with either Bull’s Rush or Shield Bash you missed the dodge or block. And if they have a mace you just need to wait for the SkullCrack to hit then use a stun breaker…
i wonder how you dodge it if you eat it at point blank range? ofcourse dodging is possible at point blank but in 99.99% they are random dodges coz u get to close or they are dodges after the feeling that the stun might come.. nobody can tell me he can dodge those stuns from 0 range on intention coz tehy see the animation(well when its laggy u might be lucky) coz this is beyond human capabilties
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
to gather more people then u .. thats what i consider as skill.. coordinating pugs and managing to get numbers.. if you dont want to go with high numbers and lose thats not the problem of the blobs thats your problem not adapting to the actual situation
and i didnt said that blobbing with huge numbers is skill i just said that not adapting to the blobs and qqing about blobs is no skill
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
and who cares? get more players problem solved
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
nothing is wrong with blobbing if ppl cant adapt to it i wonder who has no skill.. (having no fun is a different story)
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well ascended armor has to be crafted with new mats coming with future patches (and will be soulbound) wich are build out of low lvl mats.. and all proffessions will go up to 500. with the weapons i dont know if tehy just will be a skin or an improvment.. the joke starts with ascended armor as tehy said they dont wanted to make gw2 a gear grind
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
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GL with your warning
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
So much unfounded propaganda against Desolation in this thread. When I can see that there is e.g. 20 players on the TS for some guild, enemy calls it in this forum 40-50 people. And 15 + 20 man team together is 80 for our enemy. Well, it is good if each Deso player counts as two. ;-)
From Desolation players point of view Piken and Abaddon are nothing but a blob. For me 20+ is a already blob. <- yes you can die laughing at my definition
Sadly Visunah Square and Kodash have better roamers and solo players than anybody I have seen on Piken or Abaddon’s. All 1 vs 1 have been wins (I don’t duel, but 1 vs 1 happen when you solo roam a lot).
could say the same.. havent seen one single good player on deso and piken. i even have to play with 1 hand to make it more challenging. matchup is softer then expected
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well i have a warrior and a thief (and 4 other 80s) and compared the warrior was the easiest at leveling and the fastest (have mesmer ele guardian and ranger too). thief wvw roaming is just boring u have way more fun with a warrior in wvw.. i run a berserker warrior with 0 20 20 0 30 with full berserker gear and accesoirs and survivabilty is better then expected and u can kill everything. i love how thiefs run after u and u insta gib them with a stun and axe burst skill way to funny.. and if u see thief running d/p just use berserker stance and kill him while he thinks hes invul coz of perma blind
Terrible players really, anyone now knows how to counter that gimmick stun+hb or eviserate is really easy and predictable.
If you ever want to do pvp go thief, and even wvw.
ofc because 99.99 ppl in wvw are just bad but counting dodges and stuning from point blank helps alot. if u do a point blank stun its not be able to dodge unless its a random dodge and evenf u dont hit you f1 burst you do alot of dmg with axe autoattack. one chain up to 10k dmg. thief is just boring in wvw just 5 and 1 or 5 2 if d/p its not a chellenge and gets rly boring fast
I think there are so much stun breaks and teleports that is just like a rudeness to make the warrior class the one that rely on melee attacks mostly to need to land a CC in order to make a fair amount of damage, warrior seriously has serious problems, at least like you said, eviserate can be used without the stun, but hb no, and this is why this skill needs to be reworked seriously.
On the mean time we have mesmers doind berserker damage more high than the actual true whirlwind of a warrior, thieves doing 80% health backstabs from stealth, rangers/elementalist/engineers bunkering like a warrior should bunker, guardians dealing more damage in a more reliable way than warrior does….
well 100b is kinda kitten thats true. i only use it when i have ppl downed and other want to rezz them or when i want enemys to move away from me or something. axe autoattack dooes the same/more amount of damage in the same tim ewhile u dont have to stand still as i said axe autoattack does up to 10k dmg in one chain and thats a ton of dmg in a short time. gs autoattack does the same damage then 100b in the same time when u dont hit 100b final atack and a bit less when u hit the final attack.
most classes skills does the same dps then the autoattack when they dont have special effects
for me warrior is a lot of fun and i can kill everything with my build and full berserker gear. if i cant kill it, it cant kill me too.
the only class that troubles me are thiefes with d/p when i dont see it coming and cant change to berserker stance in time.. u can still beat them but its a bit tricky and harder wwithout the stance.. if u cant manage to kill him try to get out of combat change slot skills and kill him with ease..
this shows again how gw2 is based. bring the build not the player.. one slot skill changes the whole outcome of a fight.. isnt it terrible?
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
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well i have a warrior and a thief (and 4 other 80s) and compared the warrior was the easiest at leveling and the fastest (have mesmer ele guardian and ranger too). thief wvw roaming is just boring u have way more fun with a warrior in wvw.. i run a berserker warrior with 0 20 20 0 30 with full berserker gear and accesoirs and survivabilty is better then expected and u can kill everything. i love how thiefs run after u and u insta gib them with a stun and axe burst skill way to funny.. and if u see thief running d/p just use berserker stance and kill him while he thinks hes invul coz of perma blind
Terrible players really, anyone now knows how to counter that gimmick stun+hb or eviserate is really easy and predictable.
If you ever want to do pvp go thief, and even wvw.
ofc because 99.99 ppl in wvw are just bad but counting dodges and stuning from point blank helps alot. if u do a point blank stun its not be able to dodge unless its a random dodge and evenf u dont hit you f1 burst you do alot of dmg with axe autoattack. one chain up to 10k dmg. thief is just boring in wvw just 5 and 1 or 5 2 if d/p its not a chellenge and gets rly boring fast
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well i have a warrior and a thief (and 4 other 80s) and compared the warrior was the easiest at leveling and the fastest (have mesmer ele guardian and ranger too). thief wvw roaming is just boring u have way more fun with a warrior in wvw.. i run a berserker warrior with 0 20 20 0 30 with full berserker gear and accesoirs and survivabilty is better then expected and u can kill everything. i love how thiefs run after u and u insta gib them with a stun and axe burst skill way to funny.. and if u see thief running d/p just use berserker stance and kill him while he thinks hes invul coz of perma blind
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
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How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
proof me if i am wrng. but hasnt the greastword auto attack in 3.5 sec a bit less dmg then 100b ? tehre u have ur movment 100b and it gives your enemy invul as well. dont forget that most skills have the same dps then ur autoattacks unless teh yhave special abilties.. thats a way of anet troll what the most ppl dont realise
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
:P and sometimes i run in my guild with the name " Mindless Aurora Glade Blobs [Zomb]
and i only laugh my kitten of thiefs which try to kill me with mass hs spamm and ppl who gank me with 10+ ppl and have success (i also laugh when tehy odnt have success ) . hmm thats not true i always laugh my kitten off :P
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
@moon : as i said different ppl said u like to bragg in the forum about how good u are. so i only have the words of some ppl and dont rly know if its ture or not. but its only normal that u believe what friends say dont you? and i dont rly enjoy the game right now as there is to less skill cap in the game ( and stupid balance patches wich arent rly tested before they release it) and its more about which build counters which build (but its ok its not balanced around 1v1). and i did never said that somebody is bad . but its fact that tehre are some builds atm which u can play blind and 1 handed and still beat 90% of the ppl
Dear friend Tsezar. Apparently some people told you we liked to brag a lot in this very forum. Please explore the forum functionalities to verify your friends claims. Otherwise please stick to your own experiences.
Btt: I have played those builds. All of them. With any of them it was at least as easy to fight 1vs2/3 as with any other strong roaming class built for it.
Winning 1vs4+ is just wrong and very dependant on the opponents skill. If you beat 4+ ppl, they probably were lvl 65 wearing blue level 40 gear or did not have one single clue about what they were doing. And by beating I mean killing them all, not escaping after downstating one :-).4 average players will not let you kill them. Above average, you better have your shadow refuge next to a wall, otherwise this is a trip to the spawn.
Cheers mate, hope to meet you soon on the field. I will chose to walk away if it is on an apothecary ranger though. CBA to be locked down on one place for an hour or till somebody falls asleep :-).
well said. ur not supposed to win 1vs2 when enemy knows what they do and dont have crap gear /builds. to sad to many ppl dont know how to gear/build and play their characters correct
€: ha your edit is so true :P
see you on the battlefield . your laughing ranger (sure now u know who i am :P )
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
@moon : as i said different ppl said u like to bragg in the forum about how good u are. so i only have the words of some ppl and dont rly know if its ture or not. but its only normal that u believe what friends say dont you? and i dont rly enjoy the game right now as there is to less skill cap in the game ( and stupid balance patches wich arent rly tested before they release it) and its more about which build counters which build (but its ok its not balanced around 1v1). and i did never said that somebody is bad . but its fact that tehre are some builds atm which u can play blind and 1 handed and still beat 90% of the ppl
@coarr: are u the only ranger in your guild which uses the “guard” regen build? when yes we already fought and its an super boring endless fight wich never ends unless somebody is brain afk. and i like it that u try to improve urselfe fighting 1vs x and explain it liek this . coz i only fight 1vx coz 1v1 are to boring
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@Moon : hearing from different ppl that u like to bragg in forums about how good you guys are and all other ppl suck. and btw nothing offended me. but writing “i dont run from a 1on2 or 1on3” means for me he thinks hes good and that stuff but forgetting that it is the build not the player (or maybe he thinks its the build and not himselfe? who knows?!?) and/or maybe i just get to kitten e d of some bad AM players which are so easily trolled by troll builds. HA think that might be it lol
@zumy nope for me they are not capable of soloing in wvw ofc tehy are good in 1v1 but not good enough for 1vx vs some decent players.. soloing for me means that u can fight 1vX with good surv and good escapes when it doesnt turn out to be good
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no u have nothing done wrong i play this kind of ranger myselfe but i dont brag with an easy mode build on forums lol (i only play this build coz its the only one viable for solo as i dont like to run in zergs to much). even if this isnt rly a brag
but to much ppl get trolled by this kind of builds like the condition p/d thief.. ppl dont know how to handle such builds
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
yeah why would u run with a regen ranger condition build from 2 or 3 ppl wich are uncoordinated. 1v1 is just faceroll so no skill needed 1v2 depends on enemy classes and build 50% chance easy faceroll too other 50% u need to use ur heal skill on cd or u die and have to clever dodge enemy dmg and cc.. 1v3 is where the fun starts u might get them to run or tehy are coordinated a bit and u get cced down or u have to run,, but always depends on enemy class
so nothing to be proud of.. but its fun
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
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they should remove the abilties wich give 2500hp and the other one wich gives 100 condi dmg and power its way over top and gives to much unfair advantage wich tehy said dont want to make with the wvw abilties
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well if u fight against 1 person u can mostly ignore that dmg they do with this build..
i run the condi version and changed my runes to my preference. as i dont have settler gear except the trinkets i run with thougnes runes: 5 ingi and 1 svanir= 190 extra toughness. so i run with 3250 armor with 1k healing power wich is when u keep troll heall spell at cd 800 hp/s, throw in some dodges and u can go semi afk
thats the reason i try to find fights wich is 1v2 or 1v3 to make it interesting coz everything is boring but also depends on class and build tehy use.. so i would never fight 1 vs 2 against a necro and something else coz necros are to op right now
the build is fun yeah and to make it more op i run atm zerg build to get my wxp rank up fast to get the extra 2500 hp and 100 condi dmg
. with the 2500 extra hp/hp goes arround 21500 hp wich is rly strong especialy with 3250 armor and 1k healpower
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
u didn win each week.. first week won AM
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
u mean the wrath of no skill needed fotm aura eles? i loled
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
Yeah actually its a joke pve players have it to easy to get monthly.. they mush increase the wvw kills to 1k to make in en par with 7 fraktals a months or just change the monthlys completly
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
why still? i never did.. but looks like Am is bored with fighting jade the 5th time in a row and ppl dont have holydays any longer
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
most pof the ppl thought we get 1st or 2nd easy without doing much so yes
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
I didnt make the post to flame RG or such a thing. i respect Rg and tehy gameplay alot.. i was just unsure if this is allowed or not as i read in a forum that A-net doesnt want ppl from different server to communicate togetger and set something up.. i just wanted to prevent ppl for getting banned and such things as i rly like ur movies and streams a lot
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well actually u can see u farm them without losses pretty easy.. u may not need bags or badges but kills for the archievment….nuff said A-net will judge
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
well RG is communicating with other guilds to get free badges and kills.. dont think this is allowed
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
No i didnt say i didnt want to play i sadi Am didnt want to or how can u explain that u got so many points in less then 2 days when AM was leading all the week?
and yes starfall this is a good question. on friday one of the homelands had queue but there were only 20 ppl with the commander.
good to know that it doesnt make difference which place u get and it only depends on the points.
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
i think u cant really count the friday as AM didnt want to play at thursday night and friday all day. Im rly ashamed. but it was the bess matchup i had too. nice fights from all sides. well done looking forward to it
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
your stats are pretty solid and well balanced.. i have arround 3k attack 46% crit with 67% crit dmg 3050 armor and 16775 hp. this stats are buffed with buffood the oil and the omnom cakes wich gives 66% chance on krit to get health back.. i use GS and hammer. GS with fire sigill and hammer with the sigill that has a chance of 33% on crit to restore healths.
in wvw u can front fight with it in large combats wich is pretty funny and insane. i use shelter for this and renewed focus for this as this works best for this kind of combat how i do it.. always jump in first kill some foes or do a lot fo dmg and run back when u start to get dmg with shelter renewed focus and stand ur ground. when u do this sometimes u will see that enemy zerg will run away as tehy get a ton of dmg and u kinda moral boost ur team to do the same
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
need to test this but it looks like i crit often enough to make the lifesteal proccs happen often enough
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
changed a bit my armor
u think to get kinda 40 more attack 5 more crit dmg 600 more hp and 40 more armor is worth loosing 4% of crit? the crit is important to me as i uses AH build with omnom cake and the heal sigil on hammer
i play with GS and hammer
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
nvm u have 10% less crit then me
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
i dont understand why u have 2k more hp then me
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
here is my screen with my stats unbuffed with a 0 5 30 30 5 build
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
where the heck do i gt soldier gear of?
and btw i use ruby orbs = more bang for the bucks.. and a assassin back wich berserker jewel so i dont understand why i only have 62% crit dmg and u have 68% and i uses 3 piece of valkyre and 3 of knights with valk weapons and knights jewelry
how much crit dmg d0o u have now with this build?
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
Harbinger what gear and build are u using? i have similar stats as u with a 0 5 30 30 5 build but with arround 100 less toughness and 6% less crit dmg
i mean the pic with arround 3.2k armor i only have 3k and ofc buffed to with oil wich gives prec and the omnom cake.. wich fire sigill on GS and on hammer i use the one wich gives u life
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!