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Posted by: Hunter.4783

Hunter.4783

Let me start by saying i have 5 lvl 80s, a warrior included and over 8.5k achi points so i have been around.

During all my time in WvW and sPVP i have yet to see a more overpowered build than this.

Skull crack with sigil of paralysis gives 3.75 sec stun which can be followed by a 100b which has a total channel time of 3.30 sec. This usually results in death unless you use a stunbreaker. Thats nice and all except for the fact this combo can be repeated EVERY 7.5 SECONDS due to burst mastery. IN addition, due to fast hands weapon swap = 5 sec cooldown as well as gives adren.

Let me repeat it: You can perform a 3.75 sec stun due to skull crack —> 100b EVERY 7.5 Seconds. I am repeating this before some “pro” warrior comes to tell me to bring stun breakers. I have tried to go against this build with various builds on D/D ele, thief, guard and mis each bringing from 1-3 stun breakers and eventually you run out of em, At this point, you die.

Also, you can add in a shield stun which ADDS into stun duration. It can also help to land a skull crack due to the mobility it provides.

Last but not least, HEALING SIGNET IS EXTREMELY OP. 400 Hp/sec in addition to regen based on adrenaline (2nd minor trait in defense line) makes for quite a ridiculous regen which is unconditional and can be further enhanced by regeneration.

Now, have come flocking in here trying to defend your OP build. I will not be replying this thread because i know most of you have been longing for a buff for so long and now that you finally go it, you wanna clench to it, but at least show some objectivity in your responses

The build i am talking about is this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Skull-Cracker-V-3-0-The-Counter-Meta

Might as well make it popular so they “adjust” it sooner than later

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Posted by: dani.1956

dani.1956

There is something in the game i think called uhm block breaker ! Tip : use them ?
In my 30k kills in wvw and some sPvP i’ve never seen 1 guy that is not completly afk to take a 6 seconds stun ! Above all this there is compensation in all , from the crap class that warrior has been for almost 1 year now it started to look good !

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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TBH. GS is extremely easy to counter. I won’t even touch the thing against good opponents.

You can kite a Mace/Shield warrior pretty easily with cripples. And if they have Berzerkers stance up just simply spam evade frames, dodges, teleports or movement skills for the 8 seconds, then reapply cripples.

Personally, I’ve found that players who are over-eager to get a kill against a Mace/Shield warrior are the ones that get punished the hardest.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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It’s pretty obvious warrior is the most OP/faceroll profession now. For people who have all 8 classes at lv80, all of them are using the warrior since it’s so faceroll. Basically pwn everyone even with no skill due to how easy it is.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Hunter.4783

Hunter.4783

Bullkitten, Defektive and you know it. How does a thief go against it? Short bow? have you tried kiting a war with 400+ health per sec regen with shortbow?

Come on, be more objective please. If you say kite or avoid killing the war, you just lost the arguement right there. And i love how you saying “GS is easy to counter” when in fact the skull crack is the real problem. No kitten GS is easy enough to counter, but a 4sec stun every 7.6 sec is a little bit harder to deal with.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

TBH. GS is extremely easy to counter. I won’t even touch the thing against good opponents.

You can kite a Mace/Shield warrior pretty easily with cripples. And if they have Berzerkers stance up just simply spam evade frames, dodges, teleports or movement skills for the 8 seconds, then reapply cripples.

Personally, I’ve found that players who are over-eager to get a kill against a Mace/Shield warrior are the ones that get punished the hardest.

Agreed. I’m gonna have to use the L2P card on this one. Don’t joke about over powered when warrior has been one of the most under dog classes for almost a year now. Atleast give us some time to shine :/
I feel like this is the whole Bulls charge 100b Quickness cry over again. Play it and you’ll soon realize the weaknesses of the build. You lack a lot of great gap closing abilities if you’re constantly crippled/chilled. The only way to close is usually with shield bash which is ~300, bulls, which you should never get hit by…, or the Greatsword abilities-which cannot stun you. Now if he’s carrying a greatsword, chances are he’ll be swapping to mace fairly shortly. That’s when you know to run

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Posted by: Sil.4560

Sil.4560

I don’t see the big problem with this build. It’s useful to have in a party with me but I have trouble thinking of it as some sort of OP monster build, given what other classes are capable of. It’s rather funny that as soon as the warrior class starts running something even the slightest bit viable, people throw a fit about it.

If people think Healing Signet with that amount is bad, wait until they encounter a build like the one I’m running now in WvW, haha.

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Posted by: Hunter.4783

Hunter.4783

Bullscharge does not have 7.5 sec cooldown and stuns for 2sec compared to 3.76. See the problem? Ofc not, you are a warrior main after all.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

Bullkitten, Defektive and you know it. How does a thief go against it? Short bow? have you tried kiting a war with 400+ health per sec regen with shortbow?

Come on, be more objective please. If you say kite or avoid killing the war, you just lost the arguement right there. And i love how you saying “GS is easy to counter” when in fact the skull crack is the real problem. No kitten GS is easy enough to counter, but a 4sec stun every 7.6 sec is a little bit harder to deal with.

That’s assuming he has a full adrenaline bar every 7.6 seconds. If this is the case then he’s really sacrificing some valuable traits. It’s a 1v1 spec, take 2 players to kill him. I mean it’s something like an offensive Bunker Ele if you think about it. You usually want more than one player to take one down right?

Also take note that if he doesn’t have stability you can also stun him, Blind is just a joke now if you want to be that cheesy and low you could totally do that. Weakness is also pretty strong now with the buff.

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

Defektive.7283

Bullkitten, Defektive and you know it. How does a thief go against it? Short bow? have you tried kiting a war with 400+ health per sec regen with shortbow?

Come on, be more objective please. If you say kite or avoid killing the war, you just lost the arguement right there. And i love how you saying “GS is easy to counter” when in fact the skull crack is the real problem. No kitten GS is easy enough to counter, but a 4sec stun every 7.6 sec is a little bit harder to deal with.

Friend, I think you just need more time against it.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

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It’s pretty obvious warrior is the most OP/faceroll profession now. For people who have all 8 classes at lv80, all of them are using the warrior since it’s so faceroll. Basically pwn everyone even with no skill due to how easy it is.

Lack of substantial evidence, no emphasis on where the OP aspect comes from, and again lack of evidence. Are you a troll? This is pretty hilarious if you’re using sarcasm. LOL

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Posted by: Dand.8231

Dand.8231

How does a thief go against it? Short bow? have you tried kiting a war.

I think what you meant to ask was:
How does a class with Stealth, Extremely High Mobility, and a weapon with a Teleport, kite someone who has 1 gap closer (rush) on a 20 second cooldown?

Obviously the answer is to buff Thieves.

PS: If he has Regen Signet, he’s weaker vs spike damage. If he has Surge, he’s weaker vs attrition. And if he has mending, he’s weaker vs both (but strong vs condis). I shouldn’t even need to say this.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

How does a thief go against it? Short bow? have you tried kiting a war.

I think what you meant to ask was:
How does a class with Stealth, Extremely High Mobility, and a weapon with a Teleport, kite someone who has 1 gap closer (rush) on a 20 second cooldown?

Obviously the answer is to buff Thieves.

PS: If he has Regen Signet, he’s weaker vs spike damage. If he has Surge, he’s weaker vs attrition. And if he has mending, he’s weaker vs both (but strong vs condis). I shouldn’t even need to say this.

I haven’t seen a case of someone with the mads this bad since I first encountered the perma stealth thief on my warrior…………..

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

It’s pretty obvious warrior is the most OP/faceroll profession now. For people who have all 8 classes at lv80, all of them are using the warrior since it’s so faceroll. Basically pwn everyone even with no skill due to how easy it is.

Lack of substantial evidence, no emphasis on where the OP aspect comes from, and again lack of evidence. Are you a troll? This is pretty hilarious if you’re using sarcasm. LOL

How am I a troll for stating the facts? You just want to defend your OP build from a nerf (but it’s coming and you know it!), and throw the L2P card even though you know that learning to play would not save you from this OP build!!

All is vain.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

It’s pretty obvious warrior is the most OP/faceroll profession now. For people who have all 8 classes at lv80, all of them are using the warrior since it’s so faceroll. Basically pwn everyone even with no skill due to how easy it is.

Lack of substantial evidence, no emphasis on where the OP aspect comes from, and again lack of evidence. Are you a troll? This is pretty hilarious if you’re using sarcasm. LOL

How am I a troll for stating the facts? You just want to defend your OP build from a nerf (but it’s coming and you know it!), and throw the L2P card even though you know that learning to play would not save you from this OP build!!

You sound 10. Use constructive argument. It’s called being professional. There’s a few reasons why this build is fine and you should read more posts on it. Warrior has been the most underplayed class in Spvp for quite a while and finally a good build comes along, and here goes the community crying because they don’t quite understand the mechanics behind it. It will eventually become the same issue with the 100b bull’s charge. Play with it and you’ll see that it’s easy to keep someone stunlocked who DOESN’T CARRY STUN BREAKERS.

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Posted by: galandor.1059

galandor.1059

This thread will be the one that results in a Warrior nerf. Some dev will roll on by just to check out the forums, click on this, and nerf skull crack to a 1 second stun, and raise 100 blades to a 20 second CD.

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Posted by: killahmayne.9518

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I think Defektive needs to make a video on how to beat at Mace+Shield/Greatsword warrior .... lmao

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

This thread will be the one that results in a Warrior nerf. Some dev will roll on by just to check out the forums, click on this, and nerf skull crack to a 1 second stun, and raise 100 blades to a 20 second CD.

No, you forgot the part where they increase heal times all to 30 seconds, including Healing signet. man the 10 year olds. They get everything they want in life and need it more so in a video game.

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Posted by: Hunter.4783

Hunter.4783

It is an extremely OP 1v1 spec. As someone said, you need 2 people to beat it. Balanced right there folks. At least thieves and D/D eles have counters, this does not.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

It is an extremely OP 1v1 spec. As someone said, you need 2 people to beat it. Balanced right there folks. At least thieves and D/D eles have counters, this does not.

You said it yourself. It’s a 1v1 spec not a 2v1 spec. So you may excel at a 1v1, but 2 players should always be able to take you down if they’re good enough. I’m the one who said bring another if you can’t by yourself. D/D eles are hard to kill themselves without another player. Is that OP? A good thief is hard to kill by yourself, is that OP? Same goes for an engie, a guardian…………………………….. you get the point.

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

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This is my Warrior. I run 0/20/20/0/30. Knight armor/shield. Zerker weps, and Rest Cavalier.

I use Lemongrass+ Melandru+Dogged March and sharp stones.

I’m a solo roamer in wvw. This build is in fact, OP, but not in the sense you mean it, in spvp not really, it however does make an excellent duelist build.. I can stand in necro wells, eat ranger traps etc etc. I have not lost a single 1v1 since the change. Cripple doesn’t stop me, CC doesn’t really stop me, nothing really stops me. I can replace Bulls Charge with whatever I want. Still 100% crit dmg while stunned + 10% dmg to stunned targets.

It is a very powerful duelist build, but that’s pretty much it. If I face any 2+ well played opponents nothing really helps, and that goes for any class,build.

But having close to 4k armor with mace/shield doesn’t hurt either. =)

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Posted by: Dand.8231

Dand.8231

Friend, I think you just need more time against it.

I think defektive puts it best.

Let me give you a short GW2 history lesson.

Any GW2 vet can remember a time when Bulls+Frenzy+100b was “teh lulz” but the meta evolved as it always does. People realized that this build is a 1 trick pony, easy to kite, dodge, stunbreak, etc.

The meta was recently ruled by thief and mes…. and then condi necros rolled in, and they were “OP!!!1!!1one!!!” because they hard countered the thief/mes meta.

So condi builds became the new meta. That is, till people started realizing that certain builds (condi fall-offs, stuns) hard counter condi builds. Eventually as the meta shifts even more, stun builds may be the new meta….and soon after, be hard countered by something else which becomes the new meta….. and then that counters counter becomes the new meta….. and then that counters counters counter will be the new meta… and then……

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

It is an extremely OP 1v1 spec. As someone said, you need 2 people to beat it. Balanced right there folks. At least thieves and D/D eles have counters, this does not.

Agreed. Other 1v1 builds have counters, this does not. Even 1vX, you never lose, since you can always get away. So you never lose, only win with this build.

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

This is my Warrior. I run 0/20/20/0/30. Knight armor/shield. Zerker weps, and Rest Cavalier.

I use Lemongrass+ Melandru+Dogged March and sharp stones.

I’m a solo roamer in wvw. This build is in fact, OP, but not in the sense you mean it, in spvp not really, it however does make an excellent duelist build.. I can stand in necro wells, eat ranger traps etc etc. I have not lost a single 1v1 since the change. Cripple doesn’t stop me, CC doesn’t really stop me, nothing really stops me. I can replace Bulls Charge with whatever I want. Still 100% crit dmg while stunned + 10% dmg to stunned targets.

It is a very powerful duelist build, but that’s pretty much it. If I face any 2+ well played opponents nothing really helps, and that goes for any class,build.

But having close to 4k armor with mace/shield doesn’t hurt either. =)

Oh you look like candy, I’d love to duel you sometime but I don’t think we’d be in the right server matchup :// FA.

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Posted by: Dand.8231

Dand.8231

So you never lose, only win with this build.

Awesome, please post your video of you winning 100% of your fights in this build in tPvP! You never lose, only win with this build after all, right?

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

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Posted by: Ajaxx.3157

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Posted by: deathTouch.9706

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Let me start by saying i have 5 lvl 80s, a warrior included and over 8.5k achi points so i have been around.

This is mostly irrelevant to your level of skill in pvp.

I propose you fraps some videos of yourself using this highly-effective build against top duelers in the game.

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

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This is my Warrior. I run 0/20/20/0/30. Knight armor/shield. Zerker weps, and Rest Cavalier.

I use Lemongrass+ Melandru+Dogged March and sharp stones.

I’m a solo roamer in wvw. This build is in fact, OP, but not in the sense you mean it, in spvp not really, it however does make an excellent duelist build.. I can stand in necro wells, eat ranger traps etc etc. I have not lost a single 1v1 since the change. Cripple doesn’t stop me, CC doesn’t really stop me, nothing really stops me. I can replace Bulls Charge with whatever I want. Still 100% crit dmg while stunned + 10% dmg to stunned targets.

It is a very powerful duelist build, but that’s pretty much it. If I face any 2+ well played opponents nothing really helps, and that goes for any class,build.

But having close to 4k armor with mace/shield doesn’t hurt either. =)

Oh you look like candy, I’d love to duel you sometime but I don’t think we’d be in the right server matchup :// FA.

Talon you may get your shot, I recently moced to Yak’s Bend, what server are you on these days?

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Posted by: Callahan.3180

Callahan.3180

This is my Warrior. I run 0/20/20/0/30. Knight armor/shield. Zerker weps, and Rest Cavalier.

I use Lemongrass+ Melandru+Dogged March and sharp stones.

I’m a solo roamer in wvw. This build is in fact, OP, but not in the sense you mean it, in spvp not really, it however does make an excellent duelist build.. I can stand in necro wells, eat ranger traps etc etc. I have not lost a single 1v1 since the change. Cripple doesn’t stop me, CC doesn’t really stop me, nothing really stops me. I can replace Bulls Charge with whatever I want. Still 100% crit dmg while stunned + 10% dmg to stunned targets.

It is a very powerful duelist build, but that’s pretty much it. If I face any 2+ well played opponents nothing really helps, and that goes for any class,build.

But having close to 4k armor with mace/shield doesn’t hurt either. =)

Oh you look like candy, I’d love to duel you sometime but I don’t think we’d be in the right server matchup :// FA.

Talon you may get your shot, I recently moced to Yak’s Bend, what server are you on these days?

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Posted by: Linky.9178

Linky.9178

I would say the build is fine, like many said, warriors needed some loving, they have been the under dog for far too long. Give it some time, people will find ways to beat it. For ex, the thieves perma blind and stealth build, people have found ways to beat it.

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Posted by: Sil.4560

Sil.4560

Hell the blind and stealth gimmick is still ridiculous. Not because it’s unbeatable, but because of how obnoxiously forgiving it is for bad players. The whole thief class needs looking at in modes like WvW, and people are here whining about warriors?

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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Hell the blind and stealth gimmick is still ridiculous. Not because it’s unbeatable, but because of how obnoxiously forgiving it is for bad players. The whole thief class needs looking at in modes like WvW, and people are here whining about warriors?

There is play to defeat thieves, there is no play that can beat a warrior. That’s the problem and why people are complaining about warriors, instead of thief.

This forum is ridiculous because when someone makes a legitimate claim, he’s just bombarded with pointless “L2P” comments.

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Posted by: Sovereign.1093

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0.0;; i suppose some people need to practice how to dodge, and kite all over again.

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

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Warriors are so overpowered, that is why every team has 5-6 of them and a mesmer. They clear out other teams easier then COF1!

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Posted by: Sovereign.1093

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100b all the way yo. cof p1 with all them berserker gear. ^,.,^

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Posted by: Sil.4560

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There is play to defeat thieves, there is no play that can beat a warrior. That’s the problem and why people are complaining about warriors, instead of thief.

This forum is ridiculous because when someone makes a legitimate claim, he’s just bombarded with pointless “L2P” comments.

Is there no play to defeat warriors, or are you just throwing a tantrum in reaction to the FotM build? It sounds to me like people are so used to warriors being free kills in sPvP that they don’t even know how to react to them being something of a threat.

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Posted by: Veritas.6071

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Hell the blind and stealth gimmick is still ridiculous. Not because it’s unbeatable, but because of how obnoxiously forgiving it is for bad players. The whole thief class needs looking at in modes like WvW, and people are here whining about warriors?

There is play to defeat thieves, there is no play that can beat a warrior. That’s the problem and why people are complaining about warriors, instead of thief.

This forum is ridiculous because when someone makes a legitimate claim, he’s just bombarded with pointless “L2P” comments.

All I heard was, “This is OP”. We were making fun of a guildy last night because he lost to the very build this thread is talking about, but we play warriors so we know how to beat warriors.

I didn’t hear anyone ask for advice or outline a build so that we know what tools you have to work with. I did see the original poster say he brings stun breakers… even up to 3, but if you were getting caught in 3 Skull Cracks before your first break was back off cooldown, I have to wonder… why are you not respecting the fact that the guy has his mace out? You know what he’s going to do to you. This is a very powerful build, but I hesitate to call it OP. If you want advice, there are warriors that will gladly oblige you. If you only want to complain, there are lots more that will flame you.

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Posted by: Chrispytoast.3698

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Now, have come flocking in here trying to defend your OP build. I will not be replying this thread

Bullkitten, Defektive and you know it. How does a thief go against it? Short bow? have you tried kiting a war with 400+ health per sec regen with shortbow?

Come on, be more objective please. If you say kite or avoid killing the war, you just lost the arguement right there. And i love how you saying “GS is easy to counter” when in fact the skull crack is the real problem. No kitten GS is easy enough to counter, but a 4sec stun every 7.6 sec is a little bit harder to deal with.

Bullscharge does not have 7.5 sec cooldown and stuns for 2sec compared to 3.76. See the problem? Ofc not, you are a warrior main after all.

It is an extremely OP 1v1 spec. As someone said, you need 2 people to beat it. Balanced right there folks. At least thieves and D/D eles have counters, this does not.

… well I am glad you stuck by your guns and didn’t reply

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Posted by: Hunter.4783

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I like how you all all trying to derail this thread. Thing of the matter is, this build is extremely OP by any standard, dueling build or not, you can take down 1v2 and 1v3 even depending on who you are facing. Don’t give me the “1v1 build” crap. It is OP, period

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Posted by: aeneq.1760

aeneq.1760

Minimal mobility with M/S+GS

Bulls Charge misses half the time, GS rush is easily seen/avoided, it seems to me you are bent on killing a warrior in melee range and if that’s the case then you deserve to die.

That said, the Healing Signet is a bit OP in pvp atm and that will most likely be fixed.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

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There is no play that can beat a Warrior.

I’ve heard it all, folks. Time to retire my number and live out my days in the countryside. A build that, I believe, has basically existed since the dawn of the game sees the light of public day, and people come complain about it because it does what?

Performs well in the… WvW 1v1 arena?

I’ll take Things ANet Isn’t Using To Balance GW2 for 1000, Alex.

EDIT – How can a build that roots you for 3.3 seconds against a single target be OP in 1v2, let alone 1v3? Who are these, level 10s fresh out of Caledon Forest?

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Posted by: Cygnus.6903

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There is play to defeat thieves, there is no play that can beat a warrior. That’s the problem and why people are complaining about warriors, instead of thief.

This forum is ridiculous because when someone makes a legitimate claim, he’s just bombarded with pointless “L2P” comments.

Can I just step in here and say that this comment made me smile? Even for it being not true, it’s actually quite nice to hear.

You call it a legitimate claim, but many people here have already stated legitimate ways to counter said build…

And people saying you can make ‘plays’ against thieves, sure. You can kill them within an inch of their lives. Any good thief will then press 5, 3 and be gone forever.

Soooooo all of the above who play perma-stealth class, delete posts now!

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Posted by: Kukchi.6173

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Warrior is not OP we are finally somewhat on par with other classes.

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

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Warrior is not OP we are finally somewhat on par with other classes.

Yes, unfortunately all that power is stuck in one weapon set.

None of our other weapon sets are remotely viable.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

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And people saying you can make ‘plays’ against thieves, sure. You can kill them within an inch of their lives. Any good thief will then press 5, 3 and be gone forever.

Soooooo all of the above who play perma-stealth class, delete posts now!

That probably isn’t “honorable” so “real WvW duelers” wouldn’t do it.

Let’s go with Trying To Force GW2 To Conform To Our Own Ideals for 1600.

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Posted by: Cygnus.6903

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And people saying you can make ‘plays’ against thieves, sure. You can kill them within an inch of their lives. Any good thief will then press 5, 3 and be gone forever.

Soooooo all of the above who play perma-stealth class, delete posts now!

That probably isn’t “honorable” so “real WvW duelers” wouldn’t do it.

Let’s go with Trying To Force GW2 To Conform To Our Own Ideals for 1600.

Ah, so now we are talking duels!

Can somebody here defeat a phantasm mesmer in a 1v1 with this build?

I’ll take Things That Should Be Nerfed Because Everything Is Decided On 1v1’s In WvW For 2000.

What if…… and this will be scary….. Two… I say again…. TWO skull crack warriors face off? I guess that’s what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

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Posted by: stefanplc.5234

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Skull crack with sigil of paralysis gives 3.75 sec stun which can be followed by a 100b which has a total channel time of 3.30 sec. This usually results in death unless you use a stunbreaker. Thats nice and all except for the fact this combo can be repeated EVERY 7.5 SECONDS due to burst mastery. IN addition, due to fast hands weapon swap = 5 sec cooldown as well as gives adren.

It’s 3.45 seconds but that doesn’t really matter. Try landing mace stuns vs good players and especially mesmers and thieves and let me know how succesful you are. Every time you miss, you add +8 seconds during which you don’t really do much damage, you just try to survive and build adrenaline.

Last but not least, HEALING SIGNET IS EXTREMELY OP. 400 Hp/sec in addition to regen based on adrenaline (2nd minor trait in defense line) makes for quite a ridiculous regen which is unconditional and can be further enhanced by regeneration.

I agree with this. I didn’t want to be the one to say it, but I’ve seen several warriors that are pretty bad, that wasted mace stuns into obvious blinds, blocks, stability and invulnerabilities and still ended up winning vs decent opponents just because of the signet. I dueled one of them and I couldn’t kill him. Eventually we both got bored since he couldn’t really land his bursts and he switched from his signet to something else and the fight was over shortly.

The build i am talking about is this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Skull-Cracker-V-3-0-The-Counter-Meta

Might as well make it popular so they “adjust” it sooner than later

The build isn’t overly strong at all. Vs decent mesmers and s/d thieves you stand close to no chance. You can beat anyone else if you play it right and it really is, IF you play it right. Missing 2 mace stuns in a row is pretty much GG. If you have the SIGNET though, things are much easier. I do agree it’s a bit over the top right now.

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Posted by: aeneq.1760

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Seems the only people who have issues with this kind of build are rangers and necros, checking the forums these are tho only ones who have threads for it.

That said both threads basically go “Hahahaha” so I doubt even these professions are terribly worried. To me it seems that this specific build just doesnt go well with the OP’s playstyle.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/How-to-counter-stun-locking-warriors/first#post2458626
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/How-do-rangers-kill-warriors

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Posted by: galandor.1059

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I am not seeing the heal sig as OP, 400 HP per second only equates to 8000hp in 20 sec.

Not game breaking. Not to mention the fact that it is gradual progression, if you take a heavy burst, you have nothing to bring you back up quickly to prevent you from taking a few untimely hits to fall over.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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Seems the only people who have issues with this kind of build are rangers and necros, checking the forums these are tho only ones who have threads for it.

That said both threads basically go “Hahahaha” so I doubt even these professions are terribly worried. To me it seems that this specific build just doesnt go well with the OP’s playstyle.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/How-to-counter-stun-locking-warriors/first#post2458626
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/How-do-rangers-kill-warriors

There is one in thief forum too:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Running-into-a-lot-of-warrior-roamers/first#post2525610

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