Guild Wars 2

another nail to the coffin … highly disappointing change without any consultation with the players base (also as usual)…

As I have prepurchased HoT already I am starting to feel slightly cheated the shorter it is to the release date due to superb changes to DD (NOT) … and now the WvW changes …

please ANET DO LISTEN to the player base at last … 3 years passed and still your changes are so awesome … not …..

But if they would limit it , small groups would have higher chances when really highly outnumbered by foes and it would open new tactical gameplays.

I dont really mind downed state, i dont need to learn how to cleave/stomp etc i just try to look in bigger picture and what ways it can open.
Currently downed state is in favour of blobs – meta changed blobs developed from 15-man raids to 70+

All people have different definition of fun , so open mind for larger picture ! ;d

Downed state could be ok if just to remove the instant rally of all downed after killing just 1 target, or make it withing a range or limited by number of rallied maybe

Tried DareDevil in the beta map pve and mainly in wvw.

I have used full zerker gear with runes of strength, staff + sb

Overall from the very start I didnt like the staff idea – i tried to understand the idea behind monk thief and hardly had it digested . The brawler name fits better then monk but the staff is still far from what I would expect from a rouge style class.

The staff skills are … what to say – clunky:
Skill 1 – imo lacks dmg – the auto attacks are far from usefull and hits only 3 targets (which would be okish if the dmg was a bit higher)
Skill 2 – the animations feels delayed, it really slows the movement, lacks some more dmg
Skill 3 – camera based dodge- first start of animations lacks responsiveness, the distance feels strange
Skills 4 – long cast and very telegraphic, it would be better as a field f.e. BP
Skills 5 – this gave me a lot of fun in zerg fighting, BUT – animations is sloooow, it is channeled skill and during that channel you cannot stop it nor add F1 nor signet, though you can be interrupted by blinds, pushes etc – the highest crit i got in zerg fighting was 15k which is far better then average backstab

The dodges …. first I’d preffer an option to disable any of these as responsiveness is far from “working good”. The only dodge I was able to kind of “adapt” during the beta was the Dash – still it is sloooow, doesnt react on time and feels akward.
The dodges really slow down the mobility.

The new utility skills:
the only ones i liked was the impairing daggers still too telegraphic and

the elite skill – insta finish is nice, though there should be at least 5s delay between going on full CD between finishing all of the steps in this skill.

The high dps, high mobility class became slow, clumsy STAFF monk with skills killing the class itself you dont even need other class to kill you.

And the last thing: i’ve tried other specialisations with rest of the classes too. All of these have nice new graphics, animations added (reaper is really cool) but the thief? Old warmed up chops.

NINJA stealth nerf

Why was p/p removed?

Beacuse it isnt MONK enough and it cannot be nerfed in the NINJA style !

Sir Vincent III.1286:

… this is another reason why I’m not buying the expansion — and no I don’t like Revenant.

amen!

Turamarth.3248:

Can confirm it.

me too

This will be a blow to all builds, but even if you will remove fortitude stacks those 2 will be way better then 12-13k hp ones.

Posting your build and gameplay style preferences will also help us to try to help you

56003 with air+night sigil – (you can add force) and might on signet use with seaweed salad – still able to hit those big numbers – cannot provide any screenshot as i just dont do them but from recent numbers was 22,2k bs on light armour

d/p or d/d
6/6/2/0/0
2/6/6/0/0
2/6/4/2/0
0/6/4/4/0
0/5/6/3/0
full zerker armour/weapons/trinkets (2 are zerk/valk) – wurm runes, seaweed salad, sharpening stones

go zerker front line sb blasting mode with server zerg for extra fun

Playing since beta and still waiting for the GUILD vs GUILD feature in Guild Wars 2. I hope it will come eventually … though probably way to late as most of wvw guilds are gone or players left

GW2 is the best game with realm vs realm system on the market since release and still the biggest pearl that should be taken into main focus by ANET as it isnt polished as it should.
This game had an insane potential, now ANET has china market and probably does not … care anymore

its not the ping issue for sure, it is something broken after last patch in wvw with lack of fps when near group of players

its even the camera that lags a lot, so you can really even leap towards enemy even if unselecting the target and moving camera in opposite direction – it happens a lot lately

go zerker … there isnt much difference between 2,2k thougness with 3,2k armour and 1,4k thougness with 2,6k armour on thief – you still receive same dmg crits – only noticeable difference is normal autoattack and non crit hits.

nice fights you got there

any chance to see the build you use ?

One of the Few [OF] – is a new international WvW roaming guild formed by a core of experienced WvW players based on Far Shiverpeaks server.
We aim to grow up to 20 members (maybe 25 at max).

We usually play every day starting at 21:00 (GTM+1) till 0:00+

Who are we looking for?
- experienced WvW players who like to roam around in general
- mature players (preferably over 18 but exceptions can be made)

What do we offer?
- a nice and friendly environment with some seriousness, as well as laughs
- a great WvW experience
- a place in a team of experienced players who will help each other to improve
- the possibility of leading a raid yourself (preferably a guardian or warrior) Show us what you can do, and maybe one day you will be the one to follow during combat
- future perspective of gvgs

What do we expect from our members?
- you will need to have a working microphone and TS3 for better communication
- to be willing to run teambuilds and adapt if needed
- you need to have or get full exotic armor, and be willing to eventually get ascended gear. We currently do guild missions with another guild
- having decent knowledge about the class on which you will play
- we expect you to join if you are online during a WvW event.
- try to attend at least 3 events every week
- let us know on the forum if you can’t play for some time
- 24/7 representation is required, we will need the influence

Are you still interested after reading this, then apply to the site – http://oneofthefew.shivtr.com/

You will be taken on a 1 to 2 week test period to see if you will earn a place into our team.

In game contacts:
Sic: Sicward.2867 or
Mr T: VladR.9827

Max size norn thief

- guilds running 15-25 man only in open field (not only in gvg and after blob)
- more incentives to gvg in open field
- better guild management
- bigger focus on GUILD wars
- no blobs – no karma trains, no loot trains,no pvd sessions
- no farm sessions on new eotm pve map
- limited siege on keeps/towers/castle
- multiple targets marking system
- no downed state in wvw
- no mobs in wvw maps
- account bound wxp
- more incentives to play GUILD wars as guild and not blob
- removing the target cap
- more modes to pvp – give us the deathmatch at last

- would like to see ANET realizing that GW2 has a pearl that needs to be polished – wvw is what distinguish the game from any other mmo on the market (not pve which is rather boring or pvp which has only 1 mode)

still i tell you its not that useless within wvw guild raids, if teamed properly you can realy bring that team immobilize into wining, and if timed properly team burst aoe conditions on targets

the only thing ive noticed the usefulness of this build blurs with bigger numbers as per insane condition cleanse

still better then pvd sessions or 60+ man blobs ….

Gerskin.8402:

what the hell was that , insta pop 3 utilities and spam 1 that was all it took?

yea exactly, but after that try to survive the 36s cd with no cc breakers and limited stealth access

when you have a group you can realy SHARE the venoms – it works with more then 1 target

and you know what? ill tell you the secret – it is immobilize that is OP or broken
(anet fixed it lol, limiting it to 3 stacks BUT when it goes down to 2 stacks you can re-apply 3rd stack again …)

try the build – it is realy fun – it has its cons and pros
you trade tankines with condition burst for no cc breakers, limited stealth (and stealth is the only condi removal for thief in this build)

its fun, but to master it its not so easy

Dee Jay.2460:

Conditions melting targets faster than any D/D Berserker build ever could.

Just shows you how broken Conditions are.

it is the leeching venoms trait – life siphon dmg – not the conditions themselves

Been playing this build for a long time (even before the link below) (wvw only): solo, small group and guild raid
It realy shines when within small roaming party and decent group up to 20/25 ppl

It is realy nice fun to trigger venoms on solo target thou ;d

I use perplexity runes to apply another condition (confusion) on target. Can apply up to 6-7 conditions within 1-2s

and the one who should get more tribute is the one who tried to show community this build is fun to play:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-Panicond-build-P-D/first#post3266925

and btw:
dire condition engi has smaller impact dmg due to no siphon dmg, but a lot more sustain condition dmg on target

i really like your build, its good contribution to the group, but just cant understand why are you comparing all to d/d zerker thief – which isnt the best build for guild/group roaming and is relatively low help to the group (aoe dmg,blasts and fields wise, and i mean a guild/group of like ~20 ppl)

its good to see more ppl trying to play thief within the group not only small scale roaming

we will see how it goes live, as wvw roaming guild thief i dont see much nerf, but the boost for ini regen, i dont perma stealth so it doesnt bother me at all – the only thing is i might consider changing quick recovery for opportunist

Peow peow.2189:

VladR.9827:

dunno why all cry about so called “nerf” – in few cases it is a boost – i am leveling 3rd thief atm to get him geared after the “nerf patch” … let the haters hate .. i think only true thieves will stay playing

Do you even patch notes

Yea, I do even patch notes….

dunno why all cry about so called “nerf” – in few cases it is a boost – i am leveling 3rd thief atm to get him geared after the “nerf patch” … let the haters hate .. i think only true thieves will stay playing

guild roaming – thief pov:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6PDtDkdEIs
and smaller one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi5pnOMhDLw&feature=youtu.be

the forum wars … the most annoying thing of this game but somehow on the field it always looks differently

haters gonna hate…peace to them

Strang.8170:

Aguess we should feel kinda honored that 13 of us vs xxx is fair numbers for them instead of equal sizes being the fair match.

just read through what i wrote man, and stop being more pathetic then you already are

we outnumbered you with 5 ppl during that fight and i havent stated THIS fight was fair – but you know better as always

please also take reading lessons – math is not enough for you

:D oh thats funny how you always turn it on your side ;D

you forgot about other matchups and the time we had 10 ppl for a month and you blobed us with 30 or even more?

the video lovely shows how we for the first time in looooong time outnumber you and how the difference between so called “even” numbers make a difference – 5 ppl with gvg is a lot

talking about numbers with you is as you called it hypocricy of yours – you shouldnt even post things like that – you are much bigger guild then we and you always outnumbered us

talking about kitten on official forums is what you made for few matchup threads , even not taking place in that matchups so for the sake of fairplay just shut up please

one fight hurt you so much? – why you dont seek us to fight more with the 15 but just hide ? because it is not fun? – then stop playing www
we do not care about dieing and fighting more then us – the fight is what matters

and yes we do make mistakes and wipe faster due to bad play as well – but we have guts to admit it ..

now for the peace of that topic – simply move on

we do gvg in open field fights only – thank you for inspiring math lessons now i know 2+2=5

yea everybody run with 15 or is it just 10? aaaaa you have 5 mesmer with 3 clones each , now i get it!

we run max 12 normally like 5

fair numbers in open field and you stay downed TUP – only with more you hunting us as mad bees – and if you seen us as 30 buy some glasses

we wont cross the magic 25 to not be like you

not zerg – 20 men (25 at max) www roaming guild

guild raids: front line fields blasting (that includes aoe dmg, aoe healing, aoe blind, aoe weakness, aoe poison, etc), back line harassment and picking up low hp targets, cripling, and slowing down by combat engagement tails of groups/runners etc
Like 80% of time you just use sb

Yes i can confirm those two things happend to me as well maaany times, as they are really annoying :
- instant return to original location after steal/shadowstep/sword 2 – randomly and not always
- steal steals nothing and goes on CD – no blind conditions on me or any other that can distrupt this skill – randomly

Do you do GvG 20vs35? Is it a “fair” or close to “fair” fight? – i do not think so..
We did engage you 3 times and were looking for you 4th time, but you simply stick even more people – it is pointless to fight like that – we left you with the door
And if you think 5 more people fighting guild vs guild in open field is not a “big deal” then i am simply speechless – we dont care if we die, we enjoy good fights – but show me more guilds that would engage with 19 ( as we were at that time) a train of around 35 people + even more after. Your melee group is of our number, and with leg specialist bugged it makes huge difference – please think and then post that we simply change the border at such cirumstances

poepie.6570:

YOU DON’T GROW OR GAIN SKILL BY KILLING EASY TARGETS!!!
The simple fact of life: You learn from your mistakes, You learn by fighting a stronger enemy.

this!

@Terrorsquad
GvG isnt an option – All of you big guilds should go GvG in open field in 20 ppl cap – this would really improve everybodies entertainment

shout out to the [Psy] ranger and nice duels during night time

Biggest possible black male norn thief

yeaaa, BB is the only server so far in gw2 since beta where it is possible to kill 80 ppl with 20 … numbers and nothing more
GvG? – its killing WvW imo, go and fight without pugs, just pure 20 on open field with no 2-3 more backup guilds …
after blocking respawn with 60ppl vs 13 +2/3 pugs i have no more respect for BB – you couldnt even kill us few…
i am sorry for those who really do not blob , but have not spotted much this matchup

peace, gvgers…

Arvibe.2394:

If u want open field fights or GvGs whisper me.

enjoy

with equal numbers ull just run to the keep build 10 ac and wait for reincforcements

during this matchup i have lost all respect to BB, before matchup i have been thinking there are many good roaming guild, but during any time of the day or night BB is simply always in the 4:1 advantage – new tactics – so called…

Arvibe.2394:

VladR.9827:

We do GvG in open field only. It is no shame to go with lower numbers to fight more.
If you have to GvG instead of open field fighting due to lack of numbers I can tell you only that- open field fights are still good fun, even when outnumbered 20 to 60

enjoy.

We are running with 20-25 ppl, we love GvG and open field fights, many times we fight outnumbered.

So…i dont understand ur post.

u forgot to add the 40 pug

We do GvG in open field only. It is no shame to go with lower numbers to fight more.
If you have to GvG instead of open field fighting due to lack of numbers I can tell you only that- open field fights are still good fun, even when outnumbered 20 to 60

enjoy.

ZStefanovic.2475:

thats the game meta, duh!

the meta? whos doing the meta? anet or players? some 20vs20 gvg and blob after that?
go do gvg in open field – dont kill the www with funny faces

blob is just pure lazyness of players that cannot have a challenge, in zerg its easier : u dont die, u loot much MUCH more, its simple pressing few (11111) buttons, it is just simplyfied version of nowadays life isnt it?

We do not GvG, there is WvWvW for that. It is only a pitty that every server picked up the current blob-meta and forgot about an even open-field fights. You do GvG couple times a week in same place on the map and after that just blob – i cant sense any fun in this, but well its your choice. For myself there is no better fun then good fights vs same or A FEW more ppl in OPEN FIELD. I dont mind being flanked or rear-charged by another group but if its constantly 50+ ppl group chasing 15 … well u can say by yourself if u have any fun with wiping 15

Yes there are fair fights in www field and would be even more if those so called GvG guilds run in open field with 20-25 instead of doing that .. GvG or just blobing

icey.7368:

hope they watch the vids and addapt to the meta

you mean to start the blob? or continue with killing the www with gvg?