Guild Wars 2

Find out and let me know. I’ll be interested.

I’ve only experience a month or slightly more? I consider myself to be a newbie veteran. I purchased the core thinking it was needed. I was misled and lied to. It’s not a matter of being greedy. I also see that older veterans who bought the game will need to spend more than just $50 to experience the expansion in full. Either that, or they grind madly for that character slot. Is it fair older players needs to pay $60 instead of $50?

Without the people who fight for what’s right, you’ll be living in a society where everything is dictated by the government. Sort of like the movie “The Interview”?

Because Europeans are rich! You might want to ask why GW2 of China is cheaper too…

So veteran players must pay $60 to enjoy the whole expansion where a new player just needs $50? Seriously? You gotta be kidding.

Shifu.4321:

Acharyn.4738:

It doesn’t matter what ANet meant. The players are speaking, and they have time to change it.

They WON’T remove the core game free with expansion. As bad as you think this backlash may be, that would even be worse. It would be removal of a feature, which is probably the one of the worst things you can do in a game.

They don’t need to. All that is needed is to add a couple of slots for existing players with core game and most people will be satisfied. No veteran player who owns the core game wants to spend $60 to be able to try out the rev. That’s more than new players will need to spend.

Synesence.7546:

With all the topics created since the HoT pre-order release came out, I don’t see how some of you are still trying to make light of this. Let’s revise the problems with this pre-release on HoT:

• Newcomers get the game AND the expansion for 50$. That’s 50$ for the expansion and the core game for free. That’s 5 slots to try out the Revenant, and for 25-50$ more, they get ANOTHER slot plus a few extras. Existing players attempting to buy the standard package do NOT get the opportunity to even use the new class, even though they’ve mentioned considering it back then.

• 50$ for an expansion. Now here is where we have lines drawn: on one side, you have people stating the price is reasonable, and on the other, you have people claiming that it’s too much for what it offers. Now, I will say 50$ for an expansion is fine, but as the base price? That’s close to the price of the original game, with far less content! Where’s the logic in that?

• Heart of Thorns isn’t even finished. Let me repeat that.
  Heart. Of. Thorns. Isn’t. Even. Finished.
  They’ve just gotten you to pre-order an expansion that, first of all, isn’t even complete, and secondly, doesn’t even have a release date. For all you know, you could’ve simply paid for nothing but the extra items they included in the package.

To those of you that have money and bought it, good for you. You have access to the Beta of an unfinished, uncertain expansion that is essentially the original game with less content, but no worries. I’m sure those extra toys you’ve gotten along will keep your mind away from that thought.

Please don’t defend this action with ‘Be grateful we don’t pay subscription fees for all the content they’ve handed to us’. We don’t owe Arenanet for that. We paid for the game, and we support its business model by using real money to buy things in the Gem Store. We’re glad they’ve given us free content over the years, but that doesn’t justify the price they’re asking for on an expansion with far less content. You can’t giveaway free things and then suddenly decide to charge for new content at a much higher price so you can get compensation for all that you’ve previously offered.

I honestly don’t know whose idea this was, and Paul’s little comment made it far worse than it should’ve been. All I know that this will not end well either way for Arenanet. Making changes now to benefit the veteran players will cause those who’ve pre-ordered the expansion at the current price to demand some sort of refund or compensation, and not making any changes will cause a loss of many veteran players who feel that they’ve been tricked.

Love the game, but not at all satisfied with this situation.

TL;DR I’m not buying the expansion as it is now, and there’s nothing I can do but wait. If no changes happen, and they continue down the road like this, I’m out. One whiny player out of their way will benefit the entire community, right? And no, you cannot have my things.

Thanks for reading. If I’m wrong, I’d love for it to be cleared up.

+1 Nicely said.

warbignime.4610:

Dear SirDrygan.1823
Us and Anet do not care. Stop making thread like these, it’s pointless.

I’m sure Anet care. You and a few others may not.

Fair enough. I already got my base game and I’m missing lots of contents. As a semi-veteran and semi-newbie, there are no added incentives if you already got the base game.

yanipheonu.5798:

So how about all those years of free content, which is really what I intended that line to signify?

I don’t even have LS content. What free content for those years? I must have missed it all.

Dott.5672:

I don’t know about you, but I’m absolutely kittening thrilled.
I love getting ripped off. Best thing ever.

Mind sending me some in game gold? It’ll help my low level character. Yes, I only have 1 character and it’s still low level. Just pretend you’re getting ripped off. You’ll love it!

Lydell.8713:

It’s basically what it comes down to. They offer the base game for free to new players who would be reluctant to pay $50 for the expansion and 50 more for the base game. But the way it’s worded in the prepurchase screen makes it sound like vets have to buy the core game again and that it’s included in the price of the expansion.

Base game have been selling for $10 many times. The wording is just manipulated to pretend that us vets aren’t deprived of anything since we already paid for the original game already.

Ronnotuipie.4079:

What is the matter i tought HoT would be just free for downloading if it releases :/

LOL? Me 2. Me 2.

… and you enjoy getting ripped off??? …

cocowoushi.7150:

Not to mention the core game went on sale not that long ago. Those new players who bought it then are getting shafted the most. “Thanks for buying, now here’s the expansion when you could have gotten the core for free. Laff.”

Even ANET recognizes it was a kitten move to do this if reddit posts are to be believed.

Do you have to add insults to injury? Now I need to go to my little corner and cry…

Dott.5672:

zenleto.6179:

I’m finding it fairly amusing. I wonder if Anet had an office pool set up on how many anger threads would be generated in the first twelve hours.

Are you implying that ANet actually plans ahead for things?

Of course they have to. They need to clear the servers of older accounts so new ones can come in and spend more on gem stores. The writing is on the wall.

Dead.5829:

The core game is included to get new people in. It’s not a kick in the face if you already have the core game. It’s a BONUS to friends, family, acquaintances you want to bring into the game.

There’s no sub, 50$ is fair for a AAA expansion with as much as HoT is giving us. If you want a better deal, buy the Ultimate edition for 50$ more that comes with some free stuff, a character slot, and… 50$ worth of gems.

-1 “DISLIKE”

I’ve paid $10 too much already for my existing core. Why should I as a existing loyal customer pay another $50 for something I already paid a few months ago?

Acharyn.4738:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150401200009/https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/105801626-Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-FAQ

This is the main point.

Q: Do I have to own Guild Wars 2 to play the expansion?

A: Yes. Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns is an expansion to Guild Wars 2 and not a stand-alone campaign, and therefore it requires the base game to play.

That was the reason why I bought the base game. Now I felt I’ve been lied to.

Shifu.4321:

Giving a discount = lying

Yeah. It was a total lie. I was misled to think my $10 was well spent…