Now that I’m thinking it could be interresting to test the use of the healing mantra in combination with the (6) from the Rune of Dwayna.
Also, someone knows when we grant regeneration to allies if it takes our stats (healing power) into account or the stats from the one getting regeneration from us?
I can understand that when it’s granted to chaos armor after a ehtereal combo to an ally it takes that ally’s stats. But when it comes directly from us it “could” make sense our stats being taken into account.
could one of you heal mantra mesmers potentially compare it to an ele?
i mean are we talking omg 3x aoe water field burst heal, which brings the whole team from 0-100 or is it more of a minor but steady heal? i haven’t looked too much into the healing capacities of the mesmer, but i am interested.
I can’t compare as I’ve never played an Ele and I avoid making an opinion based on tooltips.
Mantra healing on my Mesmer (mhenlo set equipped)
around 1400 Heal Power (more or less)
The number I remember clearly because it was an easy one.
Mantra Heal on a Guildie in WvsW , Engeneer dps specced and I think he’s around 18 000 hps -> 2875 heal
I don’t know the formule so I’m not going to guess anything. It’s also hard to check properly and the combat logs are useless at the moment.
Nretep
You only need mantra of pain who’s on 1s cd so no need for any extra mantra cooldown reduction.
I disagree for the healing on shatter as you have to keep your phantasm’s up for the regeneration granted to allies and your staff clone is too important to get shattered. Also to heal on shatter isn’t good enough to justify loosing your phantasm.
My thoughts of course.
Here’s my build that I use at the moment and working to complete
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fgUQJAWRlwziqXVTiGa9IhJF9G5neo8m7cUKue2B
Staff and GS.
Max boost in Healing Power so if you’re not yet lvl 80 or just level 80 you need to focus on equipment with the following three stats.
Power
Toughness
Healing Power
The key is not trying to pew pew damage but the be usefull for your group with your heals and support tools. (boon/condition bouncing/ Ethereal fields and your healing stuff)
In staff try to put a Sigil of Superior Water (Water is the keyword for the lower levels ones) This up to 30%, for the Superior one, grants you on use of a skill a chance for an aoe heal proc for your allies. It does pop quite oten. It’s not a 5000 heal proc of course but every bit of healing helps in GW2.
The hic is that for our exotic set we have to be very lucky or spent our gold on the TP. The set to use with this build is the Mhenlo exotic one and only drops from loot it seems. On the bright side it already has the Dwayna rune on it so it’s not all bad.
I’m going to be honnest and went for the P2W way to get my set.
Your heals will come from
Sigil proc
Phantasm granting regeneration to allies
Regeneration granted from Chaos Armor from combo on your Ethereal fields
Regeneration granted from Rune of Dwayna
Mantra of pain charging. (up to 2875 for me at the moment)
I can’t check you link as it says bad link for me.
As gameplay I try to keep 2 phantasm and the staff clone, for the bounce up ,as long and as often as possible meanwhile, when in healing mode, spam mantra of pain (2 casts, charge, 2 casts, charge again, …)
Mantra of pain is some nice extra damage while being a decent heal (at the moment 2875 for me the heal)
Not fogetting my Ethereal fields of course (chaos storm, Null field, Feedback and Time Warp)
Don’t go for the heal mantra as mantra of pain is enough for this kind of gameplay.
A lot to tell and everyone has to find his/her way and gameplay I presume.
It’s a busy bee build and way of playing but when it works it’s “Magic”.
Hope this helps you out a bit Velkyn
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I’ll come back to you, busy at work at the moment.
I play a heal/support Mesmer.
I’m a Aedgyth but the idea is still great.
Portuguese only with Brasil
Spanish with the rest of South and Central America
5 French servers in the EU and Quebec GW2 can’t fill them up
Germans? (they only speak German or don’t speak at all)
Russians? I can’t read that europeen chineese of them (joke boys)
Italians?
Scandinaviens speak English most of the time so no issue here
Greeks?
…
There’s a avery good reason we have French, German and Spanish servers you know. ;-)
It won’t work.
Not because of a technical aspect but for social reasons.
You guys and gals from the US aren’t ready to have Non English speaking players amongst you. We’re used to it on International EU servers but you aren’t and as we do have “common” playing hours, esepcially during week-ends it’ll become another issue, above the queues it would generate.
May be I should tell my Guildies to go without me, as Mesmers are useless in dungeons. ^^
Above all what was already mentioned by others, I also heal. I know they all think it’s because of their amazing, alas crappy, regen and self heals with Zero, Nada, Nothing in Heal Power they’re able to constantly dps and stay alive. If only they saw all those Green Numbers popping on my screen and I don’t even see the numbers from the regeneration I give.
I just love it. And as I’m heal specced it’s “Agony, torment, pain” for that badie that needs to die asap and plenty of “Ah Refreshing” for my allies.
But that’s just me of course and I can see and do understand your point of view.
Kinda sums up the Whines for WvW. Don't come in if you can't take a joke
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Posted by: nidwin.6731
Great post lol
Thanks
If you’re so good, why don’t you just don’t slot it Zogyark but whine about it on the forums?
Most of us have already said we don’t use it.
For me you can take it away, drop it, put it where the sun never shines and I don’t even want it to be replaced by something else.
If you start with paper, rock, scissors I’ll have to go on with lvl32 Tanks with shields that are completely OP. Same for kittycats with auto-attack every 0.75s and critt for 2.5k.
Mesmer is OP but you Zorkyak have no idea or clue why exactly, neither does 99.9% around here, including Anet.
Nerf Magus (was about time btw)
You’re probably on the best server at the moment.
Those guys are the only ones looking for a cat lost by one of their 12 members in the middle of a besieged Fort.
And as for your information
Rpers don’t bot
Rpers don’t buy from goldsellars
Rpers don’t whine on forums because of hacks/cheats
Rpers will never blame you because you suck at McM/sPvP
I don’t use it.
It’s plainly stupid and Time Warp is way more usefull for my server
With Moa you can kill 1 badie
With Time Warp you can kill all the badies in one shot
May be you could tell us what kind of gameplay you “expect” from your Mesmer.
@Fay
You don’t heal while casting a mantra but when recharging it so you certainly don’t go for the triple cast as it slows down your healing. Need to cast 3 times before being able to recharge and heal your allies. Also the heal goes through at the end of the recharge.
Aepervius
The list that Nyota posted is their reference and claim they’re the 2nd or third EU server. What they actually forget is that not all servers are filled with a bunch of hardcore no-lifes able to play between 10 to 15 hours every day since launch.
That list may have some truth in it, for sure, but it’s certainly not, and probably far from, the reality in terms of potential of servers and population.
Let’s see when a lot of other servers finaly got their WvsW population at lvl 80 and properly stuffed.
I’m just wondering if we’re getting Trolled here or if those peeps are serrious in everything the’re posting.
If I understand it well during Prime-Time it’s Desolation the besst of the best EU server.
This can become very interresting coming weeks.
I wondering how a week VS vs Arborstone vs hmmmm JS ^^ would go
@nilco
Let’s wait for the next rotation mate. What happened before this week’s rotation is one thing. What’s happening since the real kick off of W vs W is something completely different.
@ Milton
You know mate that it could also be
I don’t hate WvWers but its getting frustrating when you can’t roleplay with your roleplay friends because some WvsWers who are in the WvsW zones not roleplaying and wasting a lot of slots…
Remove tag EU/US and put all servers in the same Pool. This will have the result that peeps are going to transfer soon or later and we’ll have W vs W 24 hours around the clock on a lot of servers.
ROFL
+1 to the Rpers.
We all knew Piken Square was going to become the RP server so why did RvR guilds roll on it?
It’s still free transfer so if you can’t handle the fact you’re going to have, once in a while, rpers rping in W vs W I strongly suggest you transfer to another server.
Just epic the cat story. If I had been there I would have joined and started to look for the cat too I think.
rhodoc is funny.
Look at the bright side Decrypter. When they’re going to ask
“Who has this or that because we need to get this or that”
you can just answer
“Don’t look at me, you know I get nothing because I’m your heal/support around here.”
I got 9 badges 3 days ago and nothing after that.
Heal/support Mesmer here.
You’re right OP and I agree with you that W vs W will never be balanced.
Because it’s World vs World vs World with one Winner.
1. Winner
We won because we’re just better than the two other servers and we’re actually too low in ranking, that’s why we got paired up with these 2 bad servers. We actually should have been one tier up but because the other 2 servers were filled with cheaters and exploiters we lost our previous match of the week.
2. Loser 1
OMG server 1 are all exploiters and cheaters. I saw them even walk through walls with an entire Zerg to kill the Lord and take the keep. How can we defend if Server 1 can take keeps without having to destroy the front door. They also only play OP classes like Mesmers and Thiefs and they have hundredes of no lifes than can play 20 hours a day. We on Server 2 have families and we work and can’t be online more than 50 hours week so our Server will never be able to compete with those exploiters from Server 1. And please don’t tell me we should have worked together with Server 3 to beat Server 1. Server 3 are all imbeciles and badies and there’s nothing to expect from them. It’s like working with brainless NPC’s.
3. Loser 3
We’re last because we don’t have French speaking Oceanics that just recap everything we worked so hard for, between 20:37 and 01:43, when we are all asleep. And above that Server 1 and Server 2 worked together to make us lose because they know that in a fair and honorable fight we would always win. They’re just a bunch of noobs and I hope Anet is going to fix this otherwise we aren’t going to W vs W anymore if we have the same stuff in next game. We also saw Server 1 and Server 2 exploiting that well known bug so they could bring 50 more people than us on every map. And yes, we stopped doing W vs W after it happened again on Monday evening and night, exploits and night shift capping.
Good luck, have fun all
My memories of DAoC and WAR are a little fuzzy, but somehow RvR there felt more meaningful overall.
Mines from War are as fresh as they can be. ;-)
It’s a very different concept.
In War you have, how should I say, an evolution in th RvR.
Pairing’s open after City Push.
Lock a zone and move on the the next zone or defend the next zone (3 zones to fight and defend at the same time till one pairing locks)
Lock Pairing
Lock 2nd Pairing and go to IC/Altdorf
Pairing’s open after 1 hour and start over again
GW2 is different as it’s a point based system over a certain period of time. Here you don’t have that lock and move to the next step system but a continue fight for objectives, ressources and so on that are going to help you to take those bigger objectives and this on 4 maps.
Give it some time, and a couple of sessions and see how it works out. Fights can be fun and there’s, as mentioned by others, often a lot of strategy involved.
You clearly go for a pure dps build so I’m not sure going staff/GS is the right choice here. As mentioned by others already you’re mixing Power damage with Condition damage while being literally a glass canon.
Anyway,
good luck with it and at the end the only thing that matters is having fun. :-)
Just a bunch of badies, thinking they’re actually good but aren’t, whining because they have no clue what they’re actually doing.
Moa bird is stupid, but a lot of us don’t use it anyway.
Mesmers also have a harder time in PVE and because of this we often have a better experience with how to stay alive. We don’t outdamage our opponents, we outlast them most of the time.
You guys should be ashamed but you won’t because you have no honor and aren’t ferecious warriors with honor.
Yes you.
French speaking Aussies
French speaking Kiwis
French speaking Japanese
French speaking peeps from Singapore
Why are you all rolling on VS and making it impossible for the others to win against VS because you french speaking Asians and Oceanics just group up with the French Speaking Canadiens → Zerg → and recap everything while the real warriors with honor are asleep because so tired after spending so many hours being honorable warriors.
There are no asian servers Konrad and as far as I know there are no plans for asian servers.
Have you stopped to consider if the said losing servers are co operating at all? It’s extremely tough when you have two servers against you. The data shows that the non leading servers have not extended their communication abilities to take down the leading server.
This can be done at any time… yet they are in it for themselves. It’s very disappointing. This game is about the community. Rally up people. Work together and take down the leader.
Keep an eye out on IoJ and SoS. The co operation has started.. and change is in the air. This solution is so obvious. Yet people insist to shut there ears and cry foul at Anet.
You don’t have to communicate with the other losing server but use your brain. I know, it’s difficult to push buttons, keep your finger on F and think, but you should try at least.
Free help from the Nid.
When you’re the blue peeps (if you don’t know which color you are, ask in chat)
And the nasty, dominating server are the red peeps (if you don’t know which color the nasties are, ask in chat)
You DO NOT touch whatever is in green (if you don’t know how green looks like type “color green” in google pictures)
You focus on taking whatever is in red.
If you are color blind you just follow someone that knows what you should take and what you should not take.
To check where the red stuff is located that you should take → press m on your keyboard.
Mesmer here
Heal/glamour support specced and not full glass canon dps. I of course do my share of damage but nothing compared to pure dps specced toons.
I get my share of badges and loots so for me the system is working. My guildies don’t get more than I’m getting. I even think that I actually get more stuff than they do.
No problem Gomly.
And I can assure you that we don’t, and never will btw, cooperate with any other French server.
Sometimes we don run into you guys, when both of us had the same idea. At that moment we aren’t going to back off and we will engage you. And from what I’ve seen it’s the same on your side. Always good fights when that happens.
What we, and take my word for it, try to avoid is having to go for red objectives. Our main target is Arbor, the green ones.
Anyway,
I think we’re doing well, especially in prime time and put up a decent fight against Arbor.
@Gomly
You know you also have Frenchies on Underworld so it’s not only fighting 2 French servers but also fighting Frenchies on your own server.
Your words, not mine.
I repeat because it seems you guys don’t get it or don’t understand it.
We, Jade Sea, do NOT
I repeat
DO NOT, NOOOOOOOOOOOO, NADA
cooperate with Arborstone.
We, Jade Sea,
Try not to take anything from Underworld as our main focus is to avoid a too big Arborstone push.
I repeat again.
Jade Sea fights Arborstone and not Underworld, except when Underworld doesn’t leave us any other choice or are in our way to fight Arborstone.
May be it’s a color issue.
Jade Sea, Blue ones → good guys, allies trying to stomp Arborstone.
Underworld, Red ones → you, players from your server
Arborstone, Green ones → Nasty ones, mean ones, need to fight them.
This thread delivers.
I really enjoyed the part about honour and ferocious fighters and you should get a couple of beers at your usual place when I go for a couple of beers at my usual place.
I suggest we ask Anet for new server named waaaaaaaaaaaagh and see how it goes on from there.
Hopeless.
You peeps will never get it or being able to get over it.
We, (core RvRers) don’t care who’s winning or losing. We’re here for the fight and the kick the good ones bring us. There will always be a winner and 2 losers in a 3 faction combat. They win, means they’re better. That’s a fact a reality. But this doesn’t mean I’m going to whine or go do some PVE. I’m going to dress up and hapilly kick em in the jewels if I can.
<pkitten>So proud about Jade Sea for the past 2 days. We can’t win against Arborstone and with Underworld picking on us from behind to get a couple of points it’s even a bigger challenge. But the happy Jade Sea WvsW comes out, shows those Arborstoners our colors and nail them hard when possible. No whines, nobody’s going to PVE. All out there, killing and dying happily together.
When will free world transfers be disabled? *Edited by moderator. Staff call-out*
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Posted by: nidwin.6731
I’m aware that the French “top” guilds have already made their choice and they’re not hopping servers. Some of them did change but now they’re settled. The only thing that can happen is that some of them could move one last time before “The last call” to chose a less populated server.
On the other hand I’ve heard that UMA and Frag-Ex are hopping all the time and that the Myrmidons are trying to hop with them.
btw
Where the hell is Kalvix?
Someone tell our bro that he should be carefull with those Guardians as they have a shield, especially the level 32 ones.
Nope.
When I wake up in the morning my server is still up and running any people can log in and play.
When will free world transfers be disabled? *Edited by moderator. Staff call-out*
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Posted by: nidwin.6731
Just a question/remark here, not a flame.
How is it actually destroying server pride and honor that can be achieved?
Isn’t it better for your server to get rid of those “server hoppers because I wan’t to always win” and organize with the peeps remaining on your server?
Isn’t it better to create a core with peeps you can trust, even if it means having lower numbers?
Just a thought
Actually it isn’t that bad.
I had 9 badges Yesterday evening (even a bag with 2 in it) and I’m a heal/glamour support specced Mesmer, so not a dps killing machine.
Probably.
But there’s also something fishy with Arborstone, not that we Jade Sea are cooperating with them, we don’t. But I can’t believe Arborstone is at the right place in the EU ranking.
Anyway
That was actually my question, which “French” server OP was taking about.
Is it bugged or has it been changed?
I thought you couldn’t join W vs W for 24 hours on the new server you transfered too. And if I remember well I did see some kind of message like that when I transfered from Anvil Rock to Jade Sea just after launch.
You’re talking to me?
Which server mate so we can try to help you out with the issues you’re having with us, the Froggies, spread out on 6+ servers and even more.
And after that peeps come here whining they can’t get into any of the maps because of long queues.
Also winning is a very subjectif aspect in W vs W. I still think most of us are playing to have fun, except a bunch of special ones of course, and there are different ways to actually win.
Jade Sea here and we already knew there was absolutely nothing we could do against Arborstone. This doesn’t mean we can’t have some small victories and our share of xp/karma/loot and our pride. And you know what. Nearly no queues on Jade Sea.
It’s stupid and I’ll never use it. Above that Time Warp is ten times more powerfull and useful than that stupid Moa stuff.
This morning
Arborstone 220k
Jade Sea 50k
Underworld 50k
Nidwin is a sad panda from Jade Sea
On our side of the W vs W we, Jade Sea and the peeps from Underworld are getting roflstmp by Arborstone.
And no Underworld.
We don’t cooperate with Arborstone. Just like you we’re getting our share of stomping.