Guild Wars 2

Xeph.4513:

prozon.3561:

Xeph.4513:

prozon.3561:

Xeph.4513:

prozon.3has 561:

Its no secret that anet want tp on the pax, so relax guys. Takse a look at the past tp was a long time dominating the competetive sczene. The most popluar team outside and also most constantly one. In my opinion its fair send them the Tickets. But i never will get confirm with their abuse play. But this happens to you cc guys also. Hard prefered of anets brainless patching.

Yes because we didn’t win those matches with our own effort, its disgusting the attitude some people bring; regardless if Arenanet wanted us there or not, we had to get there with our own efforts as a team, which we did accomplish, you may spread rumours as you like our accomplishments speak for themselves.

They do. Sure. Just confirmed the best team won. It has norhing to do with rumours, just a analyze of the past month. Casual players never be able to get sth even some ontop one wont get it. I wont put tp on a bad shot, only thing is i cant say ur winning by playing the best there are other reassons pushing your success also

Please inform my daft mind regarding what phantom force is pushing us to win.
I am entranced to find out what conspiracy theory that your going to come up with.

Rly? Serious? You are playing op kitten by months… what was tp before anet decided to make the engi the most broken class in the game? What was tp before anet decided to make the ranger the unbeatable 1v1 monster? Ye right one of many other good teams but not this one man show since april. You seriously think you guys are winning all by best playing? Cmon…..

we were around long before then trust me, we were around when thief was broken and we didn’t have one; we were around when cantrips ele was around and we didn’t have one; we were around when engi was the worst class in the game but still played one.
If you are going to talk about all the strong meta classes in our comp; then why not mention all the times when we didn’t have an op classes still held our own as a team.

People can pick and choose situations, and twist things to their favour, but we have a history that speaks for its self.

You cant or wont get it? In the past you didnt played the broken ones and were a tesm like all the othets in the c. Szene. Till anet patched in your direction you played the same and the others not. Difference? Tp started building the lineup around this. You said in past you hadnt cantrips or bs, but than switched to ranger, phanta at least switched to nec you to thief? The point us long time you hadnt to change ur lineup and still if some stronger kitten out you do. Thats the difference of the old and new tp

Xeph.4513:

prozon.3561:

Xeph.4513:

prozon.3has 561:

Its no secret that anet want tp on the pax, so relax guys. Takse a look at the past tp was a long time dominating the competetive sczene. The most popluar team outside and also most constantly one. In my opinion its fair send them the Tickets. But i never will get confirm with their abuse play. But this happens to you cc guys also. Hard prefered of anets brainless patching.

Yes because we didn’t win those matches with our own effort, its disgusting the attitude some people bring; regardless if Arenanet wanted us there or not, we had to get there with our own efforts as a team, which we did accomplish, you may spread rumours as you like our accomplishments speak for themselves.

They do. Sure. Just confirmed the best team won. It has norhing to do with rumours, just a analyze of the past month. Casual players never be able to get sth even some ontop one wont get it. I wont put tp on a bad shot, only thing is i cant say ur winning by playing the best there are other reassons pushing your success also

Please inform my daft mind regarding what phantom force is pushing us to win.
I am entranced to find out what conspiracy theory that your going to come up with.

Rly? Serious? You are playing op kitten by months… what was tp before anet decided to make the engi the most broken class in the game? What was tp before anet decided to make the ranger the unbeatable 1v1 monster? Ye right one of many other good teams but not this one man show since april. You seriously think you guys are winning all by best playing? Cmon…..

Xeph.4513:

prozon.3has 561:

Its no secret that anet want tp on the pax, so relax guys. Takse a look at the past tp was a long time dominating the competetive sczene. The most popluar team outside and also most constantly one. In my opinion its fair send them the Tickets. But i never will get confirm with their abuse play. But this happens to you cc guys also. Hard prefered of anets brainless patching.

Yes because we didn’t win those matches with our own effort, its disgusting the attitude some people bring; regardless if Arenanet wanted us there or not, we had to get there with our own efforts as a team, which we did accomplish, you may spread rumours as you like our accomplishments speak for themselves.

They do. Sure. Just confirmed the best team won. It has norhing to do with rumours, just a analyze of the past month. Casual players never be able to get sth even some ontop one wont get it. I wont put tp on a bad shot, only thing is i cant say ur winning by playing the best there are other reassons pushing your success also

Its no secret that anet want tp on the pax, so relax guys. Take a look at the past tp was a long time dominating the competetive sczene. The most popluar team outside and also most constantly one. In my opinion its fair send them the Tickets. But i never will get confirm with their abuse play. But this happens to you cc guys also. Hard prefered of anets brainless patching.

Power dps: Still strongest in the game
Condition dps: more viable and suntainable dps

The only difference is with any kind of power lineup you are focused to play a 100% perfekt match. If you are not able to oneshot a guy in EACH Teamfight, also small ones liek 2v2 3v3 you lost. Bursting down is not enough, you also have to get the stomp instantly.

It’s a your not allowed to fail one time lineup. <—- everyone knows, its impossible

Condi lineup you are allowed to do mistakes, it wont hurt you half compared to the power lineup. Constant sustain dps, only a period of time decides your TF win.

S Tier:

++ Necromancer

A Tier:

+ Engineer
+ Ranger
= Guardian
= Elementalist

- Thief

Tier B:

=Messmer
- Warrior

Nikkle.4013:

Phantaram.1265:

Everything that is powerful currently in the meta completely owns mesmer. I used to be able to protect xeph from the horrors that tried to charge him but it was useless, the horrors are now too much, so he switched to s/d thief. He then tried to stop the horrors from killing me on my ele but that was also futile. So now I’m a necro. We joined the horrors.

For reals? So much for my hope of seeing tp beat cheeze comps with a tried and true team comp. Pax is going to be a disappointment for showing what potential this game has.

PAX is going to a big failure for sure… but thats not our problem, other people will take their consequenzes out of this. The point is you can’t, you rly can’t handle the condi AOE kitten with past viable lineups… it’s still not possible.Some high tier teams follow the boring Meta, some others tried and are still not amused to and going for disband and many others disbanded allready.

Thats the way the game walks at the moment

This class needs to be banned for your PAX tournament!!! My Team wont participate, this Game actually is unplayable, plz wake up devs…. you can’t be serious at the moment…

Just broken if you see no names running dbl Necro and you cant do anything about this… Brainless facerolling on the point, you need no timing, no teamplay, just spam your AOE kitten out.

Fear has to be nerfed to 1 time available for OPmancer, remove burning, lower this awesome weakness spam… If you want any enjoyable games at your Pax TN you have to edit the rules by ban the Necro class fully from this, you will not be able to fix this class in time.

It’s not a special problem of the condimancer you are talking about, it’ s still the awesome stealth abuse…

Necro is a squishi target for eating shadowbomb burst? Well, all classes are…

If there is non necro, take a elementalist, take a messmer, or at least take the guardian for instant free teamfight win… You can oneshot EACH class without any problems in this current state of the game…

Stealth needs a complete rework, you cant allow teams stealth durations for more than 5 maybe 6 seconds. pre patch people QQ about about MOA, Meta used moa’ing the guardian and wip him donw instantly after this.

Nowadays moa isn’t needed anymore, stealth→oneshot→win.

replace the rush with bullcharge on a 35s CD.

Agree….. worst meta ever true, but i cant understand why anet needs the kitten long timefor rreact and prepare their mistakes…. 1week after the patch has the nerfhammer showed up…. and still it need months for just reparing past mistakes.

Ehm, only 2 Teams are able to play the final on 31th… so why you guys are complaining so hard, you just need a sup for this 1 day…

The important part of this Event for the Teams is not the game in Seatle at 31th of Aug, its the Qualify tourney before…

For example we are not able to play without any Sup the quali TN, means in normal case 90% out for sure… You will easy find an replacement for 1 guy if you won the Q Tourney….

this trait is amazing… You need both, shatter build 20% MW buff and HS is a must have.

I tested it also, sometimes 2-4k to svanir. The dmg is higher than MW as well.

With Stakitten HS doing crazy dmg… Only this trait is an dps buff for a shatter messmer for about 60%.

Dont believe, go hunt svanir and chieftain and just test the old shatter build with boon steal compared to the new HS one.

Kills svanir 50-60% faster, was rly surprised. And the creatures not rly use many “skills” to interupt :-)

Foefire is still the Best map outside, highest funfactor cause AOE dmg got less priority than in the other small point maps… Teamfights are larger, bigger, better overview at all.

N1, absolutly top map

Dear Arenanet, can you give me a answer, are you able to inplement something in the next 2 weeks before all “pro’s” left the game?

Du not take this another QQ thing, it’s important. You can’t lose 90% of the high tier community. Fan boys will stay for years, but this kind of players are rare in every game…

You rly should start ignoring things like map complaining, focus on the real targets this game have.

Quick example, (started Mistleague got around ~30 teams on EU, less than 10 are still existing at the moment, rest disband…another month, and there wont be enough Teams left for playing the playoff tournament at the end of S1….)

Godofallu.2935:

@Prozon: It’s always nice to see an opposing viewpoint especially when it comes from someone who is clearly a pretty good player.

It’s true that the NA meta really doesn’t like engies all that much anymore while a lot of the EU teams (and you) are still running them. That said while I can certainly admit it’s possible I undervalue them I think you overvalue them.

Of course they should have access to a stunbreaker. Playing without a stunbreaker is a horrible feeling.

Pre patch I would have put engineer down as the best roamer and 1v1 class in the game. While it is still good at small fights and roaming I don’t think it is as reliable as it was before at consistently winning duels and small fights. I personally would rather run an elementalist is it’s place.

Like Legi said, on EU are only Ugly and TCG out in the tops without running a Engi node build in their lineup.

Prepatch it was kinda ok, still OP but you could handle it quite easier than in this condi Meta now.

The point is, at the moment you dont rly need a stunbreaker, the dps from an elly is coming instant now with the blink combo in less than a second, you dont need the updraft combos from the past.

Thiefs are rarly played and mostly s/d no full burst oneshots anymore.

Most Messmers playing with the greatsword now, fully shatter burst build is rare also.

The Meta changed from burst to much more sustain and condi dmg, thats the point while stunbreakers are not even used on most of the classes. In Past an ele without any stunbreaker was never played, now they dont need it anymore, the blink is just enough to evade some imobilized kitten .

Just a few things, you heard a lot and wont hear again…

iam rly sad about your prio’s in the game the last year…

The kitten only well thing was done in the past year was inplementing the custom arenas and spec mode.

Actually there is not even one point left which makes you motivated to play this game anymore.

Biggest failure the last patch, the tpvp was in the best balance case ever and got just destroyed huge again.

If you are not able, by any reassons, to give us dayli, weekly, and monthly tournaments with interesting prizes, if you are not able to get the players motivated in general, plz give us just this kitten 8team tourney back until your development is rdy for any new features in tpvp sczene.

the community did so much until customs were out, holding cash tourneys, mistleague start growing and so on, but at least not even those events are motivation for playing this game… and these were only able for the top tier teams, all the other thousands players out there get nothing from…

If there were prize pools 5k+ up all the time i wouldn’t QQ about anything at your developing instead of the balance, but that will not happen.

Skyhammer, your test players said awesome get this out to the com, i played the map, boring as hell…. thats my opinion, cause 100% tournament focused player, i wont need temple spirit sky…. for what?

there are other kind of players out there who like such things, but thats a period of time, thats the problem. You cant hold players while bringing all 4 month a new map and thats the point.

Give us something you removed in past, actually the greatest feature in the hole mists… Just until your planned features are rdy. Plz dont lose the yarn on this little esport chance is out there…

Dont know if you realized, but again many high tier teams are disbanding at the moment… Insight is the first step to recovery. Don’t wait 2 month again… give us something that ur able to implement in one week…. You have to do something now

You will not be nearly as much as the players get back to the custom arena release no matter what feature come in the future, hold them now!

tested, warrior still suck as hell the hole class mechanik is still broken, need complete rework

Bring back BURST meta +1

Your view about the engineer is just terrible as hell…. i dont know if NA guys cant or wont paly this class like it’s played on EU, but it seems you actually dont know how kitten strong this class is even with the elex R nerf.

Engi can easy win a Necro, 2 ways are out.

Simple normal node build with elex R, once getting the rez necro will die.

Second is the OP trait immun to condis at 25%…

Engi has no grp support?

Node build has awesome combo fields, grp stealth for years, fast stealth for stomp preventing your allys, amazing AOE CC with bomb kit and flamethrower, Waterfield from the turret, AOE dmg from bombs are also rly strong.

I think your actually point of the engineer is totaly broken… btw engis dont need a stunbreaker… This class have the advantage from all the other condi builds, dont have to glass spec, so you cant oneshot them. Give them a viable stunbreaker back if you nerfed this kitten condi overlaod.

In my opinion Enge is still over the top… a reasson why all top tier teams running an engi…..

my 2 cent

Ps: the rest sounds still fine. +1

Many teams are testing new things at the moment, but condition is still too high.

The most advantage from team lineups with engi and necros you are able to play a very defense grp fight and for the kitten condition damage you will win in 90% vs any burst lineup. DPS lineups are not viable at the moment.

Nerfed the pet dmg, just increase the RANGER dmg.
Nerf the Spirit elite, rez activation need an maximum range of 1200 maybe.

RaynStargaze.6510:

kaplis.7195:

I love how all the “top” teams show us that they are better than others because of skill not because of OP classes.
/sarcasm

(TP vs Ugly – 2 necro’s on each team.)

When/where was this played? Can i watch it somewhere? link/site?

There was only 1 reasson out why this setup was played.

TP: they missed their guardian, took a sup
Ugly: Missed their thief, ranger and engi switched to necros

Like you saw on this 2 games, we are switching classes during the fight just ofcourse testing. We cant take any tournament srsly at the moment, it will take time to handle the new Meta.

Doesn’t matter how good your Team is, if you have to play classes some players never had played before you will allways have a disadvantage.

Also think about the dmg is quite over the top at the moment, but people also will find counters, most disadvantage of necros is still the mobility.

nice to read

After Patch: Only tpvp based

S: -

A:
Engineer +
Necro =
Messmer =
Guardian =
Elementalist =
Thief -

B:
Ranger=

C:
Warrior +

Romek.4201:

@prozon – all you ranked “teamplayers” are there cause you guyz farmed randoms and SoloQers

see what i did?

plz stop being an elitist and think you are the pro cause you are ranked in a leaderboard showing only who farmed better the RANDOMS

pfft

edit: when theres 1 guy in top 25 and did this rly with random pugs than he can be proud about – YOU would never archieve something like this

Hehe. A point you never would reach. We onky playing during the prime time like all the other teams there infront.and only get matched with them.mmr allows us not facing a solo q grp ….. maybe 2games 100. But u cant understand it i know. Cause you solo qers omly get wiped by 0815 newb premades

There are more problems like these…. same as the engineer knockback on flamethrower. No kittening way to this kitten coming, same like focus pull.

edited the post during yours, the failure is visible… buts thats the way to fix it fast in a couple of days…

I actually dont know how many players queing during the primetime, but the devs have this informations. The thing is, if 2 top tier teams are in the que, they always will met each other for sure! For this point, the MM must be working! Other option for these unserios rated games in my opinion can only be a small playerbase… You need 2 equal ranked grps during this 7minute que time, if not enough are in the que, the system still pics up 2 teams

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

A reason why I rarely soloQ. How can a good premade as twg face a soloQ-grp?
Totally broken.

ofcourse no other premade is queing at this time, or at least only lower ranked premades than the soloQ ranked group :-) Anet only told they want to increase the LB’s for working better, but they didn’t say there will be a seperated split for solo and premade que.

Thats the point, the playerbase is too low for a split que, we all saw it during the paid tournaments were online, huge queing time until game start.

At least yesterday, after the patch, we also got longer que times vs high tier teams than in the past… Example, a week ago, if 2 top20 LB Teams are queing, you had an instant pop for the tourney, yesterday after this patch, we weren’t able to get a pop up in less than 5minutes vs top 20 players.

Give the paid tournaments back like the old premade system without!!! any pay admission, give a interesting winning reward that players are supposed to build teams and than the solo Q games could be seperate fully. The mistake at the paid tournament was just the word “paid”, free joining and lower reward like in past and thats it. ppl also are focused on $, thats the way you get the missed playerbase into, maybe think about the Gem reward again.

updated community feedback. thanks for helping us guys.

Thanks guys, i did some edits :-)

Hello guys,

We are a newly formed top-tier team in the competitive tPvP scene. Some of you already saw us playing in the first two major tournaments on 12 and 19 March (King of customs/Masters of the Mists), so allow me to introduce our guild in greater detail!

Team Ugly is active in the EU region.
Main language is English.

For more information feel free to check out the videos available at:

www.twich.tv/jianji
www.twich.tv/guildwars2guru

We are currently looking for the last CORE player.

Preferred classes:

We are looking for players with high-level tournament experience on the following classes:

1. Thief (Dagger/pistol or Sword/dagger)
2. Ranger (Only BM-specced)

Other possible classes:

We might also be looking for players with high-level tournament experience on the following classes:

1. Warrior
2. Engineer
3. Mesmer

Our requirements:

We are looking for a highly skilled player with detailed knowledge of various class specs as well as different team setups and counter setups.

In addition, notable experience in tournament PvP on GW2 is expected and required. You don’t need thousands of tournament matches under your belt – if you have played in known high-tier GW2 teams/guilds in your past, we will gladly consider you.

You will be joining our team on equal footing – no one will be giving you lessons on how to play, or tell you what you have to do. You are expected to make independent decisions that fit the team strategy and line-up, and also be open to new line-ups.

If you fit the requirements listed above and wish to join Team Ugly, please send me a PM, so we can arrange a couple of test games!

Our goal is to help grow the competitive e-sport scene, so this thread will remain open until further notice with test matches taking place over the next weeks.

Last but not least, our schedule includes:

Standard play times:

Sundays – Thursdays, 7 pm – 10.30 pm (GMT+2)

Additional play times:

We normally hone our skills in various practice matches before every tournament we wish to participate in. Most of the time, those matches take place during weekends, so you should also be available during those periods!

Fridays and Saturdays are usually our time-off days.

We look forward to reading your applications!

If you need any further information, feel free to ask us.

Kind regards,

Team Ugly

Edit:
Due to the amount of applications received, we would also request you add additional relevant information to your PM application, which could help persuade us to invite you for test matches.

#2: Big thanks to KarlaGrey for your help!

Reslinal.2359:

Just a quick question, were there only 8 teams signed up or there was already a round of elimination.

Nord.5360:

Hey folks,

Guild Wars 2 Guru and Curse is proud to announce Masters of the Mists, a tournament event featuring the top Guild Wars 2 teams battling for cash prizes and in-game items.

The tournaments will feature the top eight teams from each region duking it out in a 3-round best-of-three format.

GZ Paradigm. We rly got outplayed in semi Final and 3rd place match vs this “new old” engeneer build, well done.

ps: 1800 viewers on the final

Tier S:
-

Tier A:

Ranger +
Messmer =
Engineer =
Elementalist =
Thief =
Guardian -

Tier B:
Warrior =
Necro -

Tier C:

-

eddited, thanks for help

Hi guys,

we are looking for teams to train a new lineup. I opend the thread ofcourse we want at least test vs the different kinds of teamcombos they’r out there.

Next playtime Sunday 5th evening. 6pm-xxpm
Plz send a short pm if interested.

Map pool: Forest,legacy,kyhlo

Region: EU

Sure, each class need more specs, but some specs also need a hotfix.

Rest agree

you dont understand it, the Skills as single type aren’t nearly OP, but ALL together on one Char it’s for sure… none other character have any kind of numbered imbalanced tpvp skills.

so option one, give each class an kind of portal
option 2: remove the rez completly at the messmer

or option 3, you wont see any top team running without this class.

Op Op Op….. The ele will get the right nerfs in future to be still a viable class.

Problem at tpvp now, you cant run a team without an Ele and messmer…. these classes are must hves, here should be take also work on.

The Ele probs are still visible, no need to talk more about it. Dev should know what to nerf..

The thing why Messmers are must have in a grp, the utilitys are way too strong and MUCH.

Messmer got portal, timewarp and rez illusion…. no other class got that kitten nice utility for team pvp….

At least 1 part should be removed to be viable for playing without a messmer. Portal is an class unique, also timewarp. so only the illusion rez could be removed. Maybe than its viable for playing without an messmer in the team….

Ele also needs an special nerf for team playing for example attutment’s boni doesnt count for your team mates,lower the mobility…

I still only wanna see more viable Team builds without mind. 3 fix main parts….

Anet plz be sensible…. give us back the 3 round tournaments…. team que only and solo que only at the 2team tournament….

1 Player found. Still 1 place left, but just need Beastmaster Ranger.

updated, we searching for EU

espacially class description:

Ranger: Only Beastmaster
Messmer: Only Shatter
Engi: Only Roamer, no node defender
Warrior: Only Roamer GS & S/S
Necro: Power/Condi

Update:

Guardian: Only Bunker

We’re playing on EU

Hi,

our Team lost 2 Player and we’re looking for new motivated guys.

Prime/playtime: Sunday-thursday 8pm-11pm

Classes needed: prefer Ranger, Messmer, engi, maybe warrior or Necro
Experience in tpvp >2 Month 500+ played T.
Ts3 must have.

Please contact me via pm if interested.

Phantaram.1265:

The problem is, nothing in this game has the mobility, survivability, damage, and sustain to attack far point without almost no risk, except a cantrips ele. The class with the highest percentage of punishing a back point assaulting cantrips ele is thief, even then it’s not guaranteed. Every class after that has a horrible chance of killing the ele before he rtls away or uses his many other escape tools. (such as just walking away)

Attacking a back point on any other class/build is either useless (you don’t have enough damage to accomplish anything) or a big risk (you will die if someone comes back to kill you.)

I don’t agree with that phanta, the BM Rangers are kinda same hard like bunker ele builds now, and even got higher dps output.

Don’t forget, an full bunker ele who can STAY vs 2-3 ppl more than 30 Seconds on the point does you nearly zero damage! At any normal spect team you get 1 Glasscanon over all 3 ppl….

So it doesnt mather if your enemy will send an bunker ele,ranger or guard to your close point, you’ll still be not able to kill him with 1 maybe 2 player (if non dps specced chars), but thats a gerneral problem of ALL bunker builds, not just the elementalist.

And remember, you still need 1,5 GC speeced for enough presure to bring a bunker move away your close, but after all you just capped it, and if you compare bunker specs, a BM ranger does much more dmg like a full bunker ele…

So full bunker ele never will be able to get enough presure on you to leave the point…

In summary you got ad- and disadvantages on different class while using a kind of meta inspired this way of playing.

Guardian — knockback, even more easy for neutralazing the point, but crap movement
Ranger — hard to kill of felt like 100 dodges and condi removal + auto dmg from pet.
Ele -- many dodge and massiv heals, were the others have much more HP and defense. Lucky mobility and less dieing rate by getting interrupt by 2-3ppl.

prozon.3561:

Problem actually, you get the much better reward at the 1 round than the 3 round tournaments… normally it should be changed…

thx for a little start

+1 he bring the right points

1. any new battle modes on march?
2. Are they giving us a kind of ladder, Teams need something so measure them!?
3. explain why 1 round players get better rewards than 3 round’s?

Hey Dev’s,

i know u wont change this 1 match T rounds, but actually there is either no fun to play this kind of tournament.

Players need some voltage, like the 3 rounded paids had… in 1 round play you dont have this anymore.

Problem actually, you get the much better reward at the 1 round than the 3 round tournaments… normally it should be changed…

Premades always get low grps mostly rnd’s on the 3 rounds, so maybe change this version too, to an 2 round tournament with 4 Teams BUT better reward than the 1 round tourneys.

Either ur planning all the other things ppl crying a long time for, and this game rly fast need…., i think this option can be faster implemented. Plz give us Teams a version back for playing ONLY against other skilled Teams and no rnd farming…