Guild Wars 2

Pentzski.4620:

.1 difference in rating between Mag and SBI. Oh boy, the tension. Better go hard with
your day crew today, Mag. And tomorrow of course.

Day crew won’t matter much if FA shows up again tonight, even if the entire night crew shows up. The question is, will FA game the system to put us in silver with them or go all the way to gold. My bet is they push SBI into gold then ease off.

CORE too numerous. RIP gold league. At this rate they might overtake SBI too.

CORE just transferred to FA and is currently running a fairly large zerg so will likely keep mag’s ppt down tonight – if they stay up a few more hours they can probably start taking everything. Depending if SoR just goes into a karma train mode SBI still has a chance for gold.

Lots of connection issues, lots of mesmers abusing descent into madness. Another successful patch.

At least those poor warriors are finally on par with rangers with the much needed buffs.

Same issue here. Acting like there’s a ton of packet loss every time I get near a fight then a DC shortly after. Several other people reported similar issues on Maguuma.

RedOwl.7496:

I daresay most of the people who think, and say, they are great players…really are not! They just think they are better than most of the players around them. They are really in the middle 80% and just too egotistical to realize it. I know I am in the middle somewhere and know I am not in the top 10% on any class. Wish more Maguuma players would realize that. Get tired of hearing in mumble how great they think they are and how ‘bad’ everyone else is. I know it is hard to believe, but having some humility is a generally seen as a positive trait.

I think your percentages are probably a little off, but I agree with your point. There is a definitely a false sense of skill from people who follow the good pug commanders. The average level of skill in gw2 is rather low, and the skill-cap for large zergs (against even numbers or lesser numbers) is very low if you aren’t commanding. When you approach fighting numbers 50-70% greater than your own then the skill of individual players starts to matter much more (although still not as much as group composition) and the skill of the commander becomes critical.

Most 1vX fights that people love to brag about are either against uplevels or people with team builds just trying to make it back to the zerg. Yes, there are some excellent players that can fight reasonably competent people running roamer/gimmick builds 1v2 1v3. Solo roaming in gold will probably suffer a little as map coverage at all hours improves, but probably not enough to discourage those that are great at it.

RedOwl.7496:

Be interesting to see how well some of these ‘elite’ commanders, who are wishing to “purge the bads,” do in WvW in the gold league when they have even less people following them than they had the past few weeks. After the ‘bads’ transfer’ or quit logging into WvW, and they have 1/3 their usual numbers following them, how fun is it going to be fighting a server like say, TC? Bet they will wish they had more of those ‘bads’ following them. Most of those so called bads are just average players who are just like them. And of course they will never admit it…even too themselves!

Large guilds will be happy that the fairweather rallybait isn’t following them around, although there will likely be less pug commanders so maybe those numbers won’t drop as much as they think. I think a lot of people have a romantic notion of fighting massively outnumbered in the open field against endless zergs. The current T2.5-T3.5 reality is, even if you wipe and demoralize a numerically superior force a few times they are just going to turtle up in a tower eventually. The reality for silver outside of reset is, how do I get these bags when they are sitting in LA. The reality in gold is, they call their queue and try to sandwich you in the open field. If this doesn’t work a couple times, then they go into the tower (probably one that we are supposed to own).

RedOwl.7496:

Maybe think about that some more before you encourage people to quit the game…or transfer…or get out of WvW…or insult and tell them they are bad. Instead, try teaching them to be better.

Absolutely. If you see someone doing something wrong or something you think they can do in a better way, try to help them in a constructive manner. If they refuse to listen to friendly advice and continue to do things that just don’t make any sense/hurt the server then they are fair game. Please consider that unless you are a good commander or a great roamer that advice other than ‘please don’t build 15 golems and walk them into the enemy zerg’ or ‘you really shouldn’t click your endurance bar to dodge’ might be bad.

Getting into gold will be headsmashing into T3 keeps in our borderland that aren’t ours while complaining about T1 servers not fighting in the open field. At least GvGers will be happy though. The one redeeming feature that might save some of the fun for non-GvGers will be teaming up to take out the higher ranked server in the match-up. We will probably see some GvG guilds transfer over to get away from their current T1 queues as well.

Silver would probably be worse, everyone bandwagons to mag for an easy win of a stupid reward. PvD 24/7, everyone complains about other servers not playing – when they do play on reset the open field fights will probably be less fun due to all the bandwagoners who don’t listen. Some T1 guilds may transfer into other silver servers for less queues and less terrible wvw experience, so that might be a redeeming feature.

SoS will probably get even stronger vs SBI once the long holiday weekend for some US players ends. If Mag doesn’t tank we’ll probably get gold.

Andrew Clear.1750:

So, what do you blame when we are wiping you over and over again? (And, it does happen).

With even numbers? I guess if you count pugs standing in front of a hammer train.

The only reason I am a little apprehensive at getting into gold is all the people who will bandwagon to mag after they see how fun it is to steamroll T1 zergs while getting destroyed in score.

Queues are not fun.

Pull grub to stonemist when you take it.
Never worry about a ninja because after they break outer they will take 5 minutes killing the grub.

I would be cautious about leveling too much with the 400 capped professions. It may be considered an exploit. WTB better ANet testers.