Guild Wars 2

This guy.. Its like the BP Xushin, believes he is somehow out thinking people by dropping down AC’s or capping towers with 60 people while no one is around.

Only way to ever solve this debate is to add GvG Arena. That way this guy can take his 60 people and press 11111 on gates all day and the rest of us can PvP.

Boring thread, boring matchup. We’re heading out around 8-8:30 est tomorrow so get ya Guild or get ya Zerg and come have some fun.

[Ark] video from last night. Hope to see everyone back out tonight.

http://youtu.be/rXMZQpyM518

Buffy.9246:

Boonprot.6274:

Buffy.9246:

Why does Maguuma attack Borlis Pass only? Never really seen them hit Dragonbrand. Are they scared of that server or something so they pick on a server 4 ranks lower?

Very scared. Quaking in our boots.

Well then go attack dragonbrand for once!

The way it usually works is the top two servers are able to hold their home BL or most of it so both zergs end up on the 3rd place BL. You’re not alone on this we just had 3 weeks of it.

Best thing to do is pull those panties up and just accept it.

Tetra Bug.7134:

Not sure who are easier kills WFD or BS

Also huge ups to [Ark] on Maguuma you guys were solid as kitten

Was fun until it turned into DB super blob, but that’s why we went to EBG in the first place, needed 5-10 more to deal with that. Good fights when it was just QT though.

Glad they transferred from FC, but we’ll most likely lose AGG now that they saw Mag with a guild running over 20 that wasn’t PYRO.

Halo.8976:

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I’d have to disagree, changing something to make it easier because the spark and petrify mechanic was to hard for the average player to do at an acceptable speed is just dumb.

First time I did it we were Ranger, Ele, War and 2 Mesmers. It took 3 hours to get the process down fast enough to Deeps Simon. After Nerf pretty much any setup can just hit 11121112 and win.

Two mesmers, ranger and a war could pull off this dps check back then, I’m actually surprised it took 3 hours for you. Take 2 condi necros instead of mesmers and start getting bets on how long till first rage quit.

Why would you ever Condi in PvE, Condi is for PvP. There is certain things that should almost never be used in Pve, like Guard shield 5, Guard hammer 4, Point blank shot, any condi other than vulnerability and blind Ect.. You know dis nub

Halo.8976:

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Halo.8976:

Pestilence.3184:

also that coming from some one with a dungeon master title lol…

What are you talking about? Dungeon Master is a pretty great title.

I rock the DM title, was a big deal getting that back before all the baddies made Anet Nerf p4

Before the nerf path 4 was doable mostly for zerk groups of 4 warriors and one mesmer. Nerf simply opened a way for other builds and classes to finish it, nothing wrong with that.

I’d have to disagree, changing something to make it easier because the spark and petrify mechanic was to hard for the average player to do at an acceptable speed is just dumb.

First time I did it we were Ranger, Ele, War and 2 Mesmers. It took 3 hours to get the process down fast enough to Deeps Simon. After Nerf pretty much any setup can just hit 11121112 and win.

Even in full zerker back then you at least had to know what you were doing, now its a joke

Halo.8976:

Pestilence.3184:

also that coming from some one with a dungeon master title lol…

What are you talking about? Dungeon Master is a pretty great title.

I rock the DM title, was a big deal getting that back before all the baddies made Anet Nerf p4

Comprissent.3856:

Darius Glazkov.9750:

i’m confident in the people i left in charge to maintain the reputation it has :p

Except you didn’t leave anyone in charge, and that’s why half of our wvw presence left and we have had to rebuild. No credit stealing allowed here :P

He left someone in charge, but that person was only interested in PvE. A couple days after Rekka left the MOTD was something like…

Monday – Map completion
Tuesday – Alt leveling
Wednesday – Dungeons

Couple went to D|erp, couple to BURN and a bunch went to PYRO. I was actually incredibly surprised that ME was back up and doing 15v15 GvG’s so fast. Happy to see it.

Looks like the GvG site just needs a revamp, split it up into 10v10, 15v15 and 20v20. Maybe this way guilds like AoN will actually get GvG’s accepted if they were ranked 1 in 10v10 by other guilds who wanted the top spot.

eithinan.9841:

PredatoR.5247:

[ZN] will be our last 15v15 fight, we will only be accepting 20v20’s after [ZN] gvg

Really? Why? Cant fit enough hammers on a 15 man team?

As much as I hate to agree with this kitten I kind of feel the same way. Instead of you rebuilding the way you’re doing 15v15 you just stop doing it after people start figuring out how to beat you.

I know after AGG beat us we went right to work on an entire new build, every class was changed around, we stopped targeting the group leader and started doing single targets which it looks like EP has also adapted to. Its kind of sad to see that AGG just gave up after 1 loss.

There is only a few guilds that can even get 20 people to a GvG and most of them have to stretch so far into the roster that it isn’t even a challenge after 12-15 because 5-8 people are just fillers.

I think its well known that the fewer players AGG uses the less effective their build becomes because they have gone over the top defensive but to simply say you’re not going to GvG anyone unless it’s 20v20 because you are unwilling to switch your build around is disappointing and not expected of a guild who is trying to lead the way for Gvg’s.

You should accept the challenge not toss up a counter offer.

Noobles.4325:

a mag thread is normally 10 pages by now :O they probably all busy pveing

Its hard to talk kitten about servers that show up and open field every night. With JQ all they did was hide in towers so they made it so easy, both DB and TC guilds big and small have been giving some good fights. Can’t complain about that.

Vi Au.8341:

kitten is currently working on a new group composition and we are trying to fill some vacant spots so you might/ might not see us gvging for a while.
oh we might not perform as well as we used to but we are working on improving

So basically, if you want to join a solid WvW guild, you’re capable of running something other than a hammer train build, you understand what rally bait is and how no to fall into that category, you’re capable of either stepping to the side or dodging out of the way of a hammer train and if you don’t mind being called out when you do something dumb then MSG someone in D|erp

These t2 30-40 man hammer trains are a little to much to deal with when you’re running with 15-18.

Edit: No pavilion farmers, those spots are taken.

Pretty boring week to be honest. Lots of “planned” GvG’s that didn’t happen because neither side could get the numbers. Hate to say it but I’m hoping for a T3 match up for a change. These 40 man guild groups like EP are just no fun when you can only get 15-18 and they walk right threw that AOE cap.

Some good fights with TSL though

Some mixed video of throughout the week.

http://youtu.be/2gu4CEb_km0

Naytron.7831:

Night Shift [NS] crew was a little disappointed that [PYRO] and [DERP] couldn’t GvG us tonight. We were also looking forward to it since it’s the last day of the week where we can set up GvGs! However, the next time we come across Maguuma again, we hope you guys would be ready by then. (:

I saw 8 and got all excited thinking it was going to be 8 est, then someone said it was 8 server time and everyone said kitten it. Maybe a little earlier next time.

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FirstInfantry.2795:

I’m beginning to appreciate the random matchups despite the terrible dice rolls, mainly cause its presented the opportunity to fight new guilds I never knew existed before such as TSL, YUM, and RATS (JQ) etc.. What i actually do is sneak into one of our servers guild raids and try to blend in:P its been a somewhat enjoyable experience. Overall all these guilds are so talented and organized. However it seems like all or at least most the guild fights I’m involved in utilizes the hammer train style: stability, earthshakers you know that whole deal, so I was curious are there any guilds that uses a completely different open field tactic? I would love to watch some videos on them if they are available:)

Click link in Sig, the last couple nights I think we’ve run with 1 war and 2/3 guards.

We didn’t get a GvG tonight but still lots of loot bags, so much for that TC/Mag working together thing. Really good fights though, TSL and FIRE just kept coming back over and over.

http://youtu.be/UOqtNAmb1fM

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Awake.1683:

??? Both gvg videos i only see the winning rounds included. wheres the fun in that

Just for you

http://youtu.be/vHnud3SQh10

Here’s the two uninterrupted Scrim/GvG’s between [DERP] & [RE]. It did suck getting hit for 8-9k backstabs but all the more reason for ANET to give up on this biweekly temp content BS and give us somewhere to do GvG’s.

http://youtu.be/WTpR9Sqzjlc

Dugald.4095:

Great fights, [PYRO]. Nice organization, coordination and kiting. I was impressed after the first dirt nap.

Wasn’t there for the first couple but recorded 3 of them

http://youtu.be/zN1pZ62gY8w

yea good fight

http://postimg.org/image/mwlxcvv9f/

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Naytron.7831:

Hey guys! If you’re a member/leader of The Shadow Legion [TSL], Seraphim Martyrs [BURN], Rethesis [RE], Myrmidon Elite [ME], or Zero Negative [ZN], I’ve sent a challenge to you guys for a GvG in gw2gvg.com! Please contact Nateralus/Slaughtis Ironwar or W Rod if you want to reschedule the time.

For anyone else that wants to challenge Night Shift [NS] into a GvG, please do so in http://www.gw2gvg.com/ and we’ll be looking forward to it! Let’s have some fun! (:

Rip ME

That’s one loss you’re not getting back.

Day 3

The reset is near and it’s become clear that Maguuma is what JQ fears. Hiding in towers as we call them cowards they build more Ac’s as we ask come out please. So it’s back to T1 so you can spam 1 but here’s the week in review from Mag to JQ.

http://youtu.be/5hFURmK2x18

http://youtu.be/9U7fSroG96I

http://youtu.be/26mN8B3BjOY

http://youtu.be/g5ribw8VDMk

http://youtu.be/gqQciiGNe6M

http://youtu.be/QG1bvs1bkC0

Back to the top again. Response would be nice.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Hey everyone, thanks for flagging. The team is aware of this issue and working on a fix, but it probably won’t happen today. Sorry for the inconvenience.

How about a fix on the torment runes with the thief withdraw heal?

So this is what it feels like to be JQ.. almost, think the highest count was 75 so with 2 days notice and Duke spamming LA we still couldn’t get a full q but almost.

Kind of feel bad for those T3 servers if we get this going again.

http://youtu.be/5hFURmK2x18

Didn’t bother adding that “3 way” fight between out Heavy train, RET/RAM and PRO/RATS because it was just a 1 spam fest for over an hour, no one wins those fights.

Halo.8976:

Will any JQ guild GvG with us if we give all the spectators a firework to cause skill lags?

:D

I can’t believe we have not gotten 1 GvG in while playing two T2 servers.

Looked into this more and it does apply the torment but only at the end of the evade so you would have to run away, turn around and use withdraw backwards towards the enemy making this rune completely useless on a Thief. Plz add it to the start of the heal not the end.

Not letting this slide under the mat so back to the top, I edited the original post with more information.

Back to the top, don’t want this to end up being one of those “fix 6 months later” bugs.

Just tried over and over, in combat and out of combat and it still isn’t working with my thief, but the war right beside me has it working fine.

I’m not getting the AOE Torment on my heals as a thief. I’ve heard it works with Mesmer and Engy, is this a bug or intended?

Edit: It does not work with the Withdraw sill, it might not be a problem with the rune but with the skill just not counting as a heal itself.

There is another thread that has a similar problem but with a food item.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/BUG-Bowl-of-Saffron-Scented-Poultry-Soup

My game crashes and gives a bug report pop up upon clicking the achievements tab after this new update.

Still can’t get over how much JQ likes to boast about wiping 30 man’s with their full Q. Anyways here is tonight’s Heavy Train, there was about 30 in mumble so please don’t claim you got beat by a full q JQ. All the extra’s always die first push.

http://youtu.be/26mN8B3BjOY

Clockradio.3257:

I left Maguuma in search of a server that I could log onto whenever I wanted and play WvW with people. I think a lot of people in T1 are the same, they play multiple time zones and enjoy playing with various people. The lag and queues are definitely worth the trade off for me. As far as terrible players, I’m not sure what you’re using for your criteria but I haven’t had a problem with all that many people.

When I see someone with something like this “[TSYM] is now accepting new recruits of ALL classes!” in their Sig the first thing I think is bad player(s). So its hard to pay attention to anything you say.

QQArbiter.5978:

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I can’t believe JQ is still in here talking about points, and how good they are. Anyways here is 18 minutes of video from last night where JQ showed [DERP] just how good they are.

http://youtu.be/9U7fSroG96I

The only time JQ has a chance of winning a fight that isn’t at least a 2:1 situation is when they are on those AC’s and Cannon’s. One guy was on the north cannon of SM last night for at least 4 hours.

As for the JQ who said they beat PYRO on EBG last night, this is what I saw while I was there, don’t know what happened after this, PYRO mumble can give you a headache fast with that many people in it. Thx for the bags though.

http://youtu.be/V1HDRcjQ1cA

oh yea? fight all night only 3 videos?

You JQ pugs are making me crazy. You only read and see what you want to read and see. If you had an IQ over 5 and were able to read the entire post you would see just how kittening dumb you sound.

Just in case you still can’t figure it out, the first video was what I did all night, the second was just what I saw when I was there w/pyro for the short time they were there with us. I’m not in PYRO, you’re not very observant.

Judging by you’re other two posts I think Pvf is not for you.

I can’t believe JQ is still in here talking about points, and how good they are. Anyways here is 18 minutes of video from last night where JQ showed [DERP] just how good they are.

http://youtu.be/9U7fSroG96I

The only time JQ has a chance of winning a fight that isn’t at least a 2:1 situation is when they are on those AC’s and Cannon’s. One guy was on the north cannon of SM last night for at least 4 hours.

As for the JQ who said they beat PYRO on EBG last night, this is what I saw while I was there, don’t know what happened after this, PYRO mumble can give you a headache fast with that many people in it. Thx for the bags though.

http://youtu.be/V1HDRcjQ1cA

Here is Duke’s heavy train video. Started out with 15-20 guards/wars with a couple Ele’s. Turned into a giant Zerg of rally bait so I left but was really fun up until that point.

Part 1 – http://youtu.be/g5ribw8VDMk

Part 2 – http://youtu.be/gqQciiGNe6M

Part 3 – http://youtu.be/QG1bvs1bkC0

Paz Shadow.9715:

BTW saiyr I know you take great pride in being a class act forum troll but in reality you are hurting your server more than helping it. Sure, scoreboard is good, and sure the wins are nice… but your reputation is what really matters at the end of the day and quite frankly Mag has a horrible one. The sad thing is I don’t think you and all the other forum warriors from Mag will ever be able to admit it, since if you all turned around and changed your attitude your server could really benefit from it.

If we stopped trolling forums and acted like you, got our server “respected” in this fake online world… would we get lots of transfers? Could we be the next JQ with full Q’s of bad players and skill lag. Would we be Pvd champs?

Robot Chocken.7012:

10. Yak’s Bend 54 500
14. Kaineng 49 285
18. Gate of Madness 45 199
GoM is 8 ranks behind Yak’s and only 9k away. Please keep posting

That’s most likely because we kittened yak’s so hard the last two weeks that most of them transferred to JQ so they could win PPT for a week. Or because for the most part T3, T4 ect servers have about the same population on the weekends.

I really hate explaining things to people but it seems like you don’t fully understand a lot of things that have been said in this thread. Lets look into the JQ and Mag thing a little further, maybe with some examples to help you understand.

A few days ago our (Mag’s) karma train commander came into mumble and started talking about how he thought that [AGG] was not a skilled group of people but they just simply abused water fields. He talks about using superior tactics just like JQ does when he takes over full borderlands but the truth is the all he has is a full Q behind him.

Now his “superior tactics” work really good against other T3 servers, although ram, treb, ac placement does come into effect in some cases the truth is he just has a kittening Q with him and steam rolls everything. When he uses it against T2 servers it is far less effective and now against T1 well… two full Q’s = stalemate.

The problem here is that he doesn’t know anything as far as open field tactics go and does not see what a group like [AGG] does. Its not water fields its the combination of everything. Like using a veil for most groups means you go invisible, but for a group like AGG it means leap finisher which gives them chaos armour which in combination with the retal they get from the’re guards enemy’s basically kill themselves while giving AGG boons.

When there is no water field available they use guards f2 skill for a burst party heal, I have also been stunned for upwards of 6 seconds against them which means that they have timed earth shakers on their wars instead of all at once which requires extreme coordination.

JQ is full of people just like our karma train commander, they have no idea what real skill is all they think is PPT, PPT, PPT. PPT is coverage not skill and the reason JQ is getting so much hate is because you fail to understand this. I personally have yet to run into a skilled coordinated group of JQ, its just mass numbers. We are not making this up it is the truth.

Think of it like an Spvp match, The blue team wins by lets say 300 points. Next match starts and all those people (mostly baddies) who want to be on the winning team spam that blue arrow until they get on the blue team simply because blue won last time where the people who join the red team are the ones that just can’t be bothered with any of it.

JQ blue Mag red.

JQ – PPT
Mag – Loot Bags.

Please understand that I’m not saying all of JQ are bad players or that all of Mag are good but if you were to do an average skill level of both servers. Mag wins by a lot.

That Mag pug group from tonight, good times. Glad that JQ came out to play tonight, lots of good fights w/Emp and the JQ q zerg.

Have 150 GB’s of video to go threw so not going to do that until tomorrow but here’s a quick preview.

http://youtu.be/Ot8_lmJPwgo

Started out as a 15-20 man guard/war group of random people from random guilds and turned into quite a night.

dwahvel.7356:

I’d love to see SoR NA vs Mag NA. Open field guilds vs open field guilds? Wonder what material mag trolls would use since most of SoR guilds couldn’t care less about ppt.

Just spent a week of nightly fights vs Agg, most were lost yet no trolls in thread. Was a good week.

So in case anyone doesn’t want to read threw everything so far and wants a quick catch up here’s the run down.

-Reset happens

-Pyro runs into HzH – Pyro wins

-30 seconds later WvW charges in – Pyro wins

-5 minutes later HzH & WvW are trebbing garry, Pyro runs out – Pyro wins

-The next hour consists of HzH and WvW held up in NE tower trebbing garry and running supply for more ac’s. Wall goes down.

-The hour after that consists of HzH and WvW held up in NE tower building more ac’s.

-A few of us get bored and go to JQ BL since there was no q where we run into SF, SF stands on the wall of keep and kind of comes out but never really get out of dodging distance from the portal.

-HzH gets mad because TyE built an exploited Treb to take down the wall @ NE tower because HzH and WvW wouldn’t come out to play.

-We explain to them why and they say they don’t run and hide even though I show then ze video.

-There is talks of GvG but HzH thinks that any guilds that sign up for Gvg web site are arrogant. GvG in “Guild Wars” is obviously not what’s suppose to happen.

-Âchillæs explains to us that JQ is full of good players that moved up from lower servers but have forgotten how to open field because their Mesmers are unable to switch skills and that all they have is staff ele’s. Also no one has more than one set of armor. (fyi mag guilds are all staff ele’s because we don’t have the numbers to run anything else)

-Calvin is on DB and Mag @ the same time.

CAA.9653:

Calvin.5380:

Look at two T2 servers bragging about being second to a T3 server. lol!

Not bragging. Simply stating a fact. I saw a few posts of people saying Maguuma had highest PPT, implying they outperformed FA and JQ. That is simply not true. And that is not to say FA outperformed JQ or Mag either. FA simply locked down our stuff for several hours last night.

I think people were talking about the first hour or so when everyone had even numbers last night and Mag was leading score. JQ was a distant third when the numbers were even until everyone started going to bed, then they boasted about having 100% of the map while everyone was sleeping.

Robot Chocken.7012:

kerona.3465:

HzH has run from us multiple times tonight. SF and EMP around?

Lmao HzH does not run. Whai yew gotta lie?

x per fection x.2096:

Here’s some video of tonight, Left 2-3 hours early due to how boring this ended up being. Siege wars Maybe if we let JQ take everything they will come out and play?

http://youtu.be/2YRMVwTaFaA

This one for JQ xo

http://youtu.be/DEU4asFGUjA

That second video was for you. Pretty much how the night went.