Guild Wars 2

critickitten.1498:

Dravos.7218:

Parthis.2091:

Mif.3471:

Parthis.2091:

I’m fine with one-time events. In fact I’d like to see more of them. I know it sucks if you can’t make it, but that’s life…

For some reason I doubt you’d have the same opinion if the event started at 5am GMT on a Monday.

Only you don’t know my circumstances, and you’re wrong.

The reality is there is no perfect time for everyone to do this stuff… so the choice becomes NEVER do this stuff, or do this stuff and accept that not everyone will be able to take part.

One-time events are preferable to never seeing the world change.

It’s not like those are the only 2 options though. One time events are fine, but they can be ran at different times for different time zones. Yes this means America gets to see content first, but at least everyone gets a more reasonable chance to join in.

I’m GMT and I managed to participate in all 3 evenings, but I think anyone much further east of me really was hard done by.

These things should have been thought about and implemented in advance of being released, it’s not like this is the first MMO and this sort of thing hasn’t been seen before, other MMOs manage it better. Same in terms of being able to hand out items to players when they do rollbacks etc, been done for years in other MMO, vital to the game when you have so many rollbacks and people being cheated out of hours, but it’s all reactionary and coming soon but not soon enough.

Except that in this case, having them happen one time is the ONLY way they make sense.

Unless you have a good in-world explanation for how a lighthouse can be destroyed, re-built, and destroyed again twelve times in a day? Or how about the massive amounts of destruction that were necessary to drive the ancient karka back into his lair?

Face it, sometimes having something happen ONCE is the only way it’s going to make sense. You can rationalize it as being all about the players and maybe that’s fair to say, but you can’t possibly rationalize it from any sort of in-the-world sense. And that’s precisely why they’re doing one-time events in the first place: to make changes to the world that people can witness and say “I was there”.

You’re not always going to be present when one-time events happen in real life, I don’t know why you’d insist on always being able to show up for one-time events in a fantasy world either. What, because it’s fantasy doesn’t mean it has to be realistic? One of the few things going for this game still is its realistic and life-like world.

It’s also one of the only promises in their Manifesto that I’ve seen them sticking to: a world that changes based on the players, and STAYS changed rather than the big bad boss respawning every hour. I wouldn’t ask them to change this because I’d be asking them to do precisely what every other MMO does, and they’re already getting too similar to other MMOs for my tastes.

But that’s not their only option. They already have a mechanic to repeat one-time events from GW1. It was called the scrying pool (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Scrying_Pool), and it let you relive past events and watch past cinematics. They just need to bring that back, and it wouldn’t matter if an event is past.

I’ve spent an hour trying to do just that. Every server I tried has been full. So, I’m just giving up and going to bed and taking a break from the game for a few days.

Overall, this event was a fiasco.

Positives: The new area is gorgeous. It’s one of the prettiest zones in the game. Your art team should be commended.

Fractals of the Mist is also a really cool dungeon with some fun mechanics, and I can see myself spending a lot of time there.

Negatives: The event launching it has made me never want to visit that beautiful zone again. The first one-time event was slow and tedious. It was literally hitting enemies that would not die for an hour . . . and then getting almost no reward at the end of it. And then everything afterwards was bugged to hell and gone.

The second one-time event was better. It was well-paced and pretty fun, though it petered off at the end and no-one was quite sure that it was done. Perhaps stronger narrative beats are necessary.

The third one-time event was awful. At first, it was fun to run in a huge mob, have whole-server wipes, throw ourselves against seemingly unstoppable karka. We all were chatting and joking and having a good time. By the second hour, that had ceased to be fun. Herding the ancient karka was a mixture of easy and fun events involving the environment (good!), and grinding down endless mobs (bad!). Those reinforcement sections were just morale-destroying. It went on far too long, and the rewards for completing the substages were just insulting.

I had to leave after two hours, which I think is more than a reasonable amount of time to commit to the event. I come back home to discover that the final chest was just a loot bonanza (out of all keeping with the paltry rewards for earlier stages), and rewarded not overall participation across the weekend but simply the final fight.

This experience has really soured me on the whole game. I feel like I’ve wasted a lot of time this weekend, which is not a feeling I’ve had before with your products, and I’ve been playing since the beta of Guild Wars 1, so I’m a long term fan. But, if this is the future of A.Net, I’m not sure whether I want to see it.

Grazingcattle.1627:

I was just telling my friend this morning how I really liked the event this week end and was bummed i would miss the last day. Sorry some of us have to work!

Some people had been complaining that the first 2 one time events werent rewarding, and while I was there for both I didnt really agree. The reward is being there to enjoy a fun story and awesome event.

I felt fine knowing that there wasnt anything “special” i was missing out other then that today.

Turns out I was wrong. After work my friend tells me all about his fat loots and how it took him a full 2 Hours to get but the event was worth the effort! Awesome!

I whole heartedly agree that some special rewards should come with an awesome event. A 20 slot bag would have been great! Anything else is gravy. My friend didnt do phase 1 or 2… he only did the rewarding one.

I spent a similar amout of time on events and got 34K exp 500ish karma and 5S!

So how come I didnt get near the loot that he did… we spent a similar amount of time and I was at TWO seperate 1 time events!?!?!?

I am understandably upset that my time is considered less valuable then my friends. At least have the chance for us to earn the same rewards!

I think that this is what irritates me most too. I did the one-time events the other two days, and I sunk two hours into the event today. I got about the rewards that you describe . . . and others put in two hours in the final phase and got a precursor. Awesome.

blackgoat.5172:

It’s always going to be inconvenient for someone. I’m not sure how they figure their times but someone’s always going to get left out

That’s not true. Instanced, repeating events would include everyone. No reason why they couldn’t have had the final karka fight in an instance that ran over 48-72 hours, like the Mad King dungeon.

I don’t think many people care about missing a minute-long cinematic they can watch on YouTube, but missing what sounds like a lootfest is bound to irritate almost anyone.

BurningCrow.9816:

Would you say… Repeat the Superbowl, I didn’t like the outcome. Repeat the Worlds Fair, I was too young to remember most of it. Repeat the guild event, I was out bowling. The event was announced a long time ago and was specific about times. This game is supposed to be dynamic and not like all the others. There will be more events. I know I won’t make them all but I won’t expect to either. I already missed most of the Halloween event due to work, but I wouldn’t expect them to reset it because I had more important things to do. It’s also not a pay to play so you have to keep that in mind too. Just sayin

It was not specific about times at all. It said it started at 12pm, and would be multihour. I played for over two hours, i.e. multiple hours, and got nothing. If they’d said, make sure that you’re at the grand finale at x hour; I would have perhaps tried to arrange my weekend a bit differently, though I still think it would be at an awkward time if you had kids to feed and put to bed or plans with friends or church . . . or lots of things that often happen on a Sunday.

I agree with this thread. I participated in the first two parts; I sunk over two hours into the first two phases, and got almost nothing for it except a trivial amount of gold, karma and xp. Then, I had plans with friends, and had to miss the third and final phase. As a result, I missed out on all the real rewards. I know it shouldn’t bother me, since it’s just a game and friends are way more important, but it does. If I’d only participated in the last stage, if I’d put the two hours into that, I would have got all the rewards.

Besides, the whole idea of a 5-6 hour event is absurd. Very fe1w adults are in a position where they can just clear 5-6 hours on their schedule to game.