Guild Wars 2

Red Guard [RG] has joined Jade Quarry!

And the week before we finished top of NA, so it is irrelavent.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/75

scootshoot.6583:

EZDawg.1530:

As a member of Blackgate server, i have to say that i am quite impressed with how well Dragonbrand is doing. Tier 1 isn’t easy, and DB has been resolute. grats

Guess the definition of “impressed” varies from one to the other.

At present DB is in the bottom 5 for lowest score of all servers and this includes EU. At present they ticking at 90.

http://mos.millenium.org/na

Troop.1369:

This new matchup proves that Wagonbrand is still far from T1.

It was not that long ago that Dragonbrand was dominating T3 and knew we were headed for T2 as Kaineng began to lose some guilds. We were not prepared for T2, since TC, FA and Kain dominated us at that time.

DB then got an infusion of guilds just as we headed into T2 and are a comfortable T2 Server now. Just as T2 is leaps an bounds above T3, T1 is leaps and bounds above T2. Our SEA may do alright, but we won’t know until the week days. Weekends, everyone is out enjoying skiing, fishing, picnics, whatever and when the week days begin again, I will be curious to see how our SEA does, since they were asked many times to join a T1 server and decided to stay on DB.

Go to youtube and search for RedGuard.

Metamega.9025:

This is too frustrating. As a SBI player, I recently starting wvw as I’ve explored the pve world and wanted to home my pvp skills.

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Basic formula

200 vs 50 , guess who wins?

Before this patch, 1 crash since headstart. Tonight, 3 times already. Trying different video modes. Two crashes full screen 1080p, one crash windowed full screen. Now trying windowed.

Crashed again in window mode.

If you occupy any objective in world vs world, there are two servers who want to take that objective away from you. You are being double-teamed.

If you do not like being double-teamed, do not occupy any objectives in world vs world.

warsock.7830:

wispi.2194:

DB was on its way to tier 2 before the new wave of guilds joined us, and I was apprehensive. Then [Krew] left us and I was even more apprehensive. Then [RE], [Agg] and [CO] came over and look how well we did! I am no longer apprehensive.

daFuc! never mind Reckless Bravery [rB] came over! sheesh we came first!

Sorry about that. I did not mean to forget [rB] or [NS]!

Wispi

DB was on its way to tier 2 before the new wave of guilds joined us, and I was apprehensive. Then [Krew] left us and I was even more apprehensive. Then [RE], [Agg] and [CO] came over and look how well we did! I am no longer apprehensive.

Entropy.4732:

Well it’s official. Our glorious purple swirls of confusion will be broken. Destroyed. Rendered essentially useless. The forces that be caved to the lamentations of warriors and thieves everywhere. A 50% damage reduction will render Mesmer glam builds extinct, along with the confusion engineer. Many brave forum warriors died to prevent this needless nerf. But we failed. Now nothing stands between the massive, mindless hordes of button mashing mega-zergs. Don’t come crying to us when you can’t break up that mob camping your spawn. Don’t come crying to us when your keep is wiped in seconds. Those days are over! Most condition Mesmers, myself included, will retrait power shatter builds. All that carrion / rabid gear we grinded is useless. But we still have one last weekend to give confusion the noble funeral it deserves.

I call on all confusion Mesmers! Rise up! Storm WvW this weekend in one last huzzah of glorious pink spirals!!! They’ve called us OP, they’ve QQ’d us into extinction! Let them feel our wrath one last time!!

And post your new builds below or what class you are going to re-roll as. Post how you think this will effect WvW long term. Discuss.

The bad players will still die to confusion, just not as quickly. I wouldn’t panic just yet.

The interesting thing is that condition removal is also getting tweaked so that the good players won’t be able to ignore confusion as easily, as they already are doing.

I used to die to confusion until I learned what it was. Then I laughed at myself for killing myself. I cannot remember the last time I died to confusion, probably months. But, I have so much condition removal as a support Elementalist. It is not that I am a good player, which I am not. I just learned what confusion was and stopped killing myself with it.

It will be interesting with my condition removal being lessened.

saiyr.3071:

wispi.2194:

saiyr.3071:

wispi.2194:

Nex.2450:

I’m pretty sure 9/10 times the zerg loses to the players that can actually fight well.

I think it has more to do with which side has the best support. Cleansing, stability, healing, retaliation, reflection, being concerned for others instead of only yourself.

I think you’re putting too much emphasis on support, from your previous post…there are like zero people who run support at fight club unless group fights are expected.

You are right. Fight club one on ones have no need of support. So, when the zerg comes, no one is prepared.

And yet, often times they win anyway. Imagine that…

Totally random side note, I PM’d you awhile ago asking about what your staff support spec was and you ignored me :’(

Sorry. I never got the PM

saiyr.3071:

wispi.2194:

Nex.2450:

I’m pretty sure 9/10 times the zerg loses to the players that can actually fight well.

I think it has more to do with which side has the best support. Cleansing, stability, healing, retaliation, reflection, being concerned for others instead of only yourself.

I think you’re putting too much emphasis on support, from your previous post…there are like zero people who run support at fight club unless group fights are expected.

You are right. Fight club one on ones have no need of support. So, when the zerg comes, no one is prepared.

Nex.2450:

I’m pretty sure 9/10 times the zerg loses to the players that can actually fight well.

I think it has more to do with which side has the best support. Cleansing, stability, healing, retaliation, reflection, being concerned for others instead of only yourself.

I ran Staff: 25/25/0/0/20 with zerk/valk (ruby/beryl) in WvW and it was glorious….. when I was alive. But I realized two things:
(1) requires others to keep me alive
(2) gives limited support to others
I realized how selfish I was to play that way in WvW when an Elementalist is a well-rounded class for providing simultaneous damage and support.

In large group settings, you don’t have to be the only person that is downing the enemy. You have many around you doing the same. But, when you provide support to those around you as well as assisting in downing the enemy, an Elementalist is almost unmatched. A few of us Staff Elementalist in my guild went to a 0/0/10/30/30 build with soldiers/cleric Altruism/Water/sapphires and all of a sudden our WvW presence is much more formidable. We are hard to kill and provide much support/cleansing/healing to our side and cc/AoE pressure to the enemy.

I leveled my Elementalist in WvW from level 2 to level 80. I did travel with my Guild and not solo, though.

It is buggy, I think. I can assist taking down a keep lord from beginning to end and end up with a blue as a reward. Or, I can barely make it to the circle, hit the lord one time with an auto attack as he dies and get 2 badges of honor and a blue!

I am a little late to the thread but as a Dragonbrand player since head-start, I welcome you to Dragonbrand. We enjoy the game.

To any drama involved, I have to yawn. Its a game. Family, friends, and real life is what is important.

Talmor.9048:

povV.5681:

db +690 atm and fighting 20 – 4 of us on yak bl mag spawn…while they /laugh. gotta love the poor sportsmanship. wtg guys.

Something that stuck in my head last night roaming solo through Battle Lands.

One was that I ran up to a Dolyak guarded by 4 Mags and 2 vets. They were obviously escorting. Killed the Dolyak. These 4 tried their hardest to down me first, but I got the Dolyak. So what I wonder is what was the point of a /dance on my corpse later? Must have made them feel better that they could do something.

Remember, not all players in games are mature. When it happens to me, I think that was probably some 13 year old playing on his father’s account. Though I have to admit there are some 13 year olds with more maturity than some adults in real life. That is the world we live in.

@Snafu

About that SE Camp fighting last night. You are right about boon durations. I was in that camp most of the night. I play a support Elementalist. I was the little Asura standing behind the huts out of line of sight of the majority of the opposing groups so that I could keep regeneration up on our groups, along with healing and stripping conditions. Now this may sound boring to most everybody who plays WvW, but I have been studying this game when I am not playing it. Here is what I have learned:

From watching Twitch.tv and groups like Red Guard, or even being in game along side small groups like AoN (no longer on DB), I have been amazed at how they could carve right through much larger opposing groups with little resistance. These groups almost always are lead by a Staff Guardian and members who choose their traits and gear around supporting more than just themselves. They support and rely on each other. A few of us in [EA] has decided to try something new and take on this unselfish approach to playing. Wow! I cannot emphasize the difference it has made.

I played glass canon for a while and was amazed at how quickly my Fire attunement AoE damage and high critical rate and high critical damage could down large groups of non-supported players. But, I died way to much from being unsupported myself, so it was thrilling and frustrating at the same time. I added a lot more toughness to my gear, some healing power, and changed my traits from damage to support. I no longer see huge crits, but to see me and my fellow groups stay alive longer to accomplish objectives has been very satisfying. I still tag opposing group players with my AoEs and grab as many loot bags and badges as I did before, but when I am killed, I provide much more WXP to the opposing players (you are welcome) because I die a lot less.

It has been great to see [EA] play so much better now that a few of us have gone to playing support.

TLDR: 30 pew pew players going against 20 pew pew players and 10 support players have zero chance of winning. I would even predict 20 pew pew players and 10 support players going against 60 pew pew players will still win, but that is my opinion.

Pendragon.8735:

Bandwagon to the server already having it easy in this tier, odd way to seek a challenge. I suppose if its NA only they wouldn’t destabilize if there’s not too many, but DB has been doing fairly decent there already last 2 weeks.

I have no clue as to why we have had successful resets. We had a guild leave us that fielded some good commanders and players, but it would appear that Mag and YB is fielding less players, too. These last two weeks are definitely different from the past few months.

If or when we go to Tier 2, the guilds just joining us may not be enough to compete there. But, if we are having fun, then that is all that matters.

Erinshaw.8035:

Has been a good reset all round. we know the DB zerg will turn the map green tonight but hell no one can change that so we know that DB will lead overall by the pvd method but good luck to them

You mean tomorrow morning when our SEA starts playing. They are at work tonight. Some of our west coasters may stay up late. I guess we should recruit some guilds from Hawaii :-)

Actually, [EA] on DB was known for their defense. We are usually assigned Hills on the borderland where Hills and the Way Point are on the same side. We take Hills, and hold it for as long as we can. When Kaineng steamrolled through our tier, we took Hills on Reset night and held it for 3 or 4 days! Yaks and Mag have never let us hold it that long.

GuardianOMS.8067:

NA DB has been doing more defense this week, and I for one applaud them for that because that’s something they always lacked, it’s about time. But now we get to see all the DB chest thumpers and trolls as the ride their oceanic’ coat tails. Mag threads are the best!

Welcome to T3!

So that explains why that borderland was so laggy. I thought just having BP and us [EA] on the same map at the same time was the issue. I didn’t realize Yaks was there, too. [EA] was taking NE Tower while BP was at Garrison.

iAmTheDuke.6201:

Man oh man…
Couldn’t take garrison even with two servers working together.
Such a shame….

I have been here since head-start and am not going anywhere. I didn’t know anybody playing and started following around some good players. They invited me into their party and into their Guild. Dragonbrand is a great place to be. And who doesn’t want to be on a server with Dragon in the name?

I play 25/25/0/0/20 in WvW. I have 15K health, 2300 power, 33% crit, 85% crit damage using Staff with Berserker/Valkrie (power/prec/crit dmg, power/vit/crit dmg). My gems are the same stats. I have 10% added fire damage, extra damage to burning victims, extra damage to victims under 33% health, and additional radius on AoE.

Yes, I die easily if focused and don’t play solo. When I am standing behind the Staff Guardians and support specialists, I am an AoE juggernaut. I do very well in WvW and often overwhelm people who don’t realize how much damage I can do in such a short time over an area.

25/25/0/0/20 WvW Staff – Berserker/Valkrie – 33% crit, 85% crit damage 15K health. Mist Form, Cleansing Fire, Earth Armor.

Is defense even worth it? Say you take a keep, or garrison, or even stone mist and hold it. You have to hold a camp and protect dolyaks to get upgrades. While you are holding your objective, the rest of the map gets taken. Say you hold it for 2 days and feel great you have your keep. What did you accomplish? How much karma, silver, loot did you gain?

Now, if you take something, leave it and move on to the next target, and keep moving, not defending anything, you will have continuous karma, silver, loot coming in and none lost from siege weapons, upgrades, etc. Enemy takes it after you leave, and then you come around and get it again for more karma, silver, loot, etc.

Raddimus.2057:

Anyone seen DB?? I’m on the server are we done doing WvW??

Weekends are always our lowest representation.

This is Dragonbrand [NNK] prime time. When they go to bed, and before we all get off from work, most all will be flipped back to red and green.

So, we get to stay in tier 3 after all and Fort Aspenwood returns to replace Kaineng.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-No-WvW-Rating-Reset/first

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

nalenb.1425:

Well, officially they said they would reset the ranking, use the formula we are used to and make small adjustments. Based on that, many don’t think millennium will be that far off.

So, you think they will match dead servers against 24/7 full coverage servers? I don’t think so. That would be like throwing everyone in a hat and see what happens.

Kranky.8231:

What calculations are you basing this on?

As I said in the original post, speculation, guess, estimate. Call it a gut feeling. No calculations involved.

That is exactly what I did. I just looked at history, looked at this week, and then guessed what the initial match-ups might be. We still know nothing official.

nalenb.1425:

So you think anet is going to manually adjust the match ups based on info prior to this current match?

Speculation, since we don’t know what is happening, yet. What we do know is the mos.millenium.org website also doesn’t know. Here is my guess/estimate:

Jade Quarry
Sanctum of Rall
Sea of Sorrows

Blackgate
Kaineng
Tarnished Coast

Fort Aspenwood
Maguuma
Dragonbrand

Crystal Desert
Yaks Bend
Ehmry Bay

Stormbluff Isle
Borlis Pass
Anvil Rock

Isle of Janthir
Devona’s Rest
Darkhaven

Northern Shiverpeaks
Sorrow’s Furnace
Gate of Madness

Henge of Denravi
Ferguson’s Crossing
Eredon Terrace

Where has Guild Wars 2 officials posted next week’s match-ups? Before then, any talk of next weeks match-ups is just speculation.

gidorah: so, how does it feel to be a NPC?

Real fun is when the leader of your group says ’We need to take out those siege on that hill. We are greatly out numbered and it is suicide, but we gotta try." A half a minute into the fight, all the siege is down, and I am saying “Why are we still alive?”

will.2105:

wispi.2194:

Maguuma is within 4.5 points of over-taking Stormbluff Isle!

2.5 now, they will probaly make it!
kitten i wanted to see how is the new Maguuma! The old one had awesome tactics and supreme defense while always outnumbered. Well, guess we will have to meet you later when we go to t2.

Turns out to be a submit error. Maguuma does not have that many points.

Maguuma is within 4.5 points of over-taking Stormbluff Isle!

Trait says it increases illusionist pistol range, but it only increases mesmer pistol range. i find this annoying in W vs W when I stun an enemy in place from a wall, then cast a duelist illusion only to have it fail due to range.