Guild Wars 2

I’m just curious if anyone else has noticed a reduction in their ecto drop rate? For around the last month or so when salvaging rares I’ve noticed that I have what seems like a significant increase in the number of salvaged rares return no ectos. I use a mystic salvage kit on level 75-80 rares. I know these bugged out once before so didn’t know if it was happening again.

well i have been doing EoTM for the achievs quite a lot lately, and thus have gotten a lot of rares. And there were a lot of cases that i didnt get any ectos from a rare. Maybe even more frequent than before.
But there were also a lot of cases where i got 3 globs. The 1 and 2 globs were rare tho.
So maybe ist just a streak of weird RNG choices…

Yeah I noticed that too, I’d get a lot of zero, an occasional three, but 1 and especially 2 was rare. Still way more zero ecto breakdowns than I remember.

It feels like the droprate was reduced. Unfortunately, I have no evidence to support my argument, and therefore I’ll have to believe it’s just RNG being an kitten .

/tinfoil hat
/takes a drink

No difference in my Ecto rates for me.

Is it that time again?

It’s always that time.

Weird, usually it happens after a patch…

I threw a die and it landed on 4. Did they nerf 1?

We should have an ecto nerf sticky.

Seriously guys if you don’t have something useful to input then go troll somewhere else. Thank you to the people with helpful input from those that have noticed and those that haven’t felt there was a difference. I wasn’t aware this was a regular post as the search feature on the forums is not very useful. The rates seemed to significantly change for me. It’s not that I had a few bad salvages on a handful of rares. It’s been constant since the last living world patch . I get anywhere between 10-20 rares a day on average and play every day. So it’s certainly something I would notice a difference in. I remember a while back there was a bug where rares were not dropping ectos as they should. It was a confirmed bug and everyone was complaining about the rares taking up so much bank space while waiting for a fix. It seemed to me that if it happened before then it’s possible it happened again. I don’t think Anet is out to ruin me so save your tinfoil for the kitchen.

There are people who salvage large numbers of rares a day to get ectos. And by large numbers I mean way more than 10 or 20 a day. Those were the people who noticed the ecto salvage drop on that previous ecto drop thread. They kept records of what was going on and did the math to prove it. If there were an ecto salvage bug these guys again would notice and post like they did before.

I did start to sell my rares rather than salvage them during the end of Living story (around marionette onwards) because they never seemed to return any ectos.

Since the LS ended I’ve found that they seem to be salvaging much more again.

As we are seeing totally opposite effects, that would suggest that both of use were not seeing anything at all (other than randomness).

I appreciate the input, good to know. Still think I’ll go back to selling rares then till my luck improves or there does turn out to be a problem.

It’s always the rich (ascended armor & co owners), that say ‘nothing to see here move along’. and the poor people, average rich people, seems to have it.

I have salvaged so much rares lately, and i’m 100% sure the drop rate was tempered with. Did i have bad luck strikes in past? ofc. But i also had lucky strikes to compensate, and almost always ended up at the 0,9 ecto per rare rate. Recently it’s been 0,6 ecto per rare. Even lucky strikes cannot make up for the massive unlucky strikes. So yes i’m with OP.

I salvaged 10 rares last night and got 12 ectos.

What makes your useless anecdote more valid than my useless anecdote?

0.85 is the overall average (when using the appropriate kit). What that means is that over a huge sample size across ALL players, it will be approximately 0.85 Ectos per salvaged Rare.

In order to test for an aberration in the drop rate, you would need a lot of samples. When I say “a lot” I mean more than “hundreds”.
If you are too poor to consider yourself “rich”, you are definitely too poor to adequately sample the drop rate.

You may as well argue that the 1 side of a die is broken because you threw the die once and it landed on 4.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

It’s always the rich (ascended armor & co owners), that say ‘nothing to see here move along’.

Yes, because only the “rich” (or more precisely, people that deal with large amounts of rares/exotics) have enough data on hand to see if there’s a change in the pattern or not. Salvaging 10 rares is simply not enough to draw any meaningful conclusions.

mtpelion.4562:

I threw a die and it landed on 4. Did they nerf 1?

+1 for you, sir. Well done.

When there was the previous problem with the ectos I, a casual salvager, certainly never noticed it. That suggests to me the problem wasn’t to the level where people were getting extremely reduced amounts but that the reduction was a small fractional decrease of the 0.85 number. That it was small enough that in order to be noticed, the person had to be both salvaging high numbers and keeping records. And it took a number of people salvaging large amounts and reporting it to get ANet to check it.

When ANet finally tested it, it took a couple of days for them to come back with the results and calculations and agree there was a problem with the numbers.

This is why threads where someone says, “I salvaged a handful of rares and didn’t get enough ectos” is not taken seriously. If there is a problem with ecto salvaging the reduction will small and not visible unless the sample size is very large.

Buttercup.5871:

We should have an ecto nerf sticky.

Purple Nerf ball with a darker purple center covered in purple suction cups….

Did I type that out loud?

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

It’s always the rich (ascended armor & co owners), that say ‘nothing to see here move along’. and the poor people, average rich people, seems to have it.

Oh you have salvaged thousands upon thousands of rares as well then? And you posted feedback as well, in what appears to be a bi-weekly thread to share your results for the umpteenth time? Are you even aware of the amount of posts John Smith, Anets economist, has spent on this to solidly show the community that a nerf like this would be in the patch notes if it was implemented?

“The rich” are not your problem. You are your problem if you actually believe what you’re saying. Incidentally, how do you think the rich became rich? I did trough salvaging rares, and moved on from there.

This again? How many rares did you salvage, 7?

Come back when you have data for 10,000+ rares, then we’ll talk about a rate reduction.

Seriously, ever since that one incident where rates were bugged people scream it left, right and centre.

I salvaged 2 rares and got 6 ectos, the drop rate has actually increased by like a bazillion percent!

Im pretty sure it was nerfed too. RNG is RNG but after playing a long stetch and now suddenly, basically the past month has definatly been way less. Since its been consistent lower, literally no good RNG at all and its never ever happened before im leaning towards nerf over permanent bad luck for this long

JJBigs.8456:

Im pretty sure it was nerfed too. RNG is RNG but after playing a long stetch and now […]

I hope that by a “long stretch” you mean 100+ rares. Because you know that you can have 15 streaks of nothing and then 15 × 2 or 3 ectos in a row, right?

JJBigs.8456:

Im pretty sure it was nerfed too. RNG is RNG but after playing a long stetch and now suddenly, basically the past month has definatly been way less. Since its been consistent lower, literally no good RNG at all and its never ever happened before im leaning towards nerf over permanent bad luck for this long

Here are my numbers for salvaging 1.860 rares since April 1st with MSK:

1609 ectos salvaged 86.5%
1462 upgrades salvaged 78,6%

Had a really good streak over the weekend. Salvaged something like 14 or 15 Rares, got 29 Ectos in total. I think it’s safe to say that the salvage rates have not been touched.

Have I just been awfully unlucky the last couple of days or has the return for ectos been nerfed with this weeks patch? I had 12 level 80 yellows in my bag and got 2 ectos from it -_-

ninetales.5208:

Have I just been awfully unlucky the last couple of days or has the return for ectos been nerfed with this weeks patch? I had 12 level 80 yellows in my bag and got 2 ectos from it -_-

After reading all the posts in this topic, do you think your sample size of 12 is significant enough?

Wanze.8410:

ninetales.5208:

Have I just been awfully unlucky the last couple of days or has the return for ectos been nerfed with this weeks patch? I had 12 level 80 yellows in my bag and got 2 ectos from it -_-

After reading all the posts in this topic, do you think your sample size of 12 is significant enough?

Dunno. I’m only asking if anyone has noticed a difference since the patch or if i’ve been unlucky.

ninetales.5208:

Wanze.8410:

ninetales.5208:

Have I just been awfully unlucky the last couple of days or has the return for ectos been nerfed with this weeks patch? I had 12 level 80 yellows in my bag and got 2 ectos from it -_-

After reading all the posts in this topic, do you think your sample size of 12 is significant enough?

Dunno. I’m only asking if anyone has noticed a difference since the patch or if i’ve been unlucky.

Posts from this thread to answer your question.

Wanze: Here are my numbers for salvaging 1.860 rares since April 1st with MSK:
1609 ectos salvaged 86.5%
1462 upgrades salvaged 78,6%

Zaxares: Had a really good streak over the weekend. Salvaged something like 14 or 15 Rares, got 29 Ectos in total. I think it’s safe to say that the salvage rates have not been touched.

Buttercup: (snip) you know that you can have 15 streaks of nothing and then 15 × 2 or 3 ectos in a row, right?

dAclaW: I salvaged 2 rares and got 6 ectos, the drop rate has actually increased by like a bazillion percent!

In other words, no. No one has noticed a difference since the patch. You were unlucky and RNG is RNG.

Astral Projections.7320:

ninetales.5208:

Wanze.8410:

ninetales.5208:

Have I just been awfully unlucky the last couple of days or has the return for ectos been nerfed with this weeks patch? I had 12 level 80 yellows in my bag and got 2 ectos from it -_-

After reading all the posts in this topic, do you think your sample size of 12 is significant enough?

Dunno. I’m only asking if anyone has noticed a difference since the patch or if i’ve been unlucky.

Posts from this thread to answer your question.

Wanze: Here are my numbers for salvaging 1.860 rares since April 1st with MSK:
1609 ectos salvaged 86.5%
1462 upgrades salvaged 78,6%

Zaxares: Had a really good streak over the weekend. Salvaged something like 14 or 15 Rares, got 29 Ectos in total. I think it’s safe to say that the salvage rates have not been touched.

Buttercup: (snip) you know that you can have 15 streaks of nothing and then 15 × 2 or 3 ectos in a row, right?

dAclaW: I salvaged 2 rares and got 6 ectos, the drop rate has actually increased by like a bazillion percent!

In other words, no. No one has noticed a difference since the patch. You were unlucky and RNG is RNG.

OK. Just thought most of these posts were made before the patch so I thought i’d ask. Good to know.

Anyone else experiencing a severe decrease in rate of salvaging ectos from rares in the past few days?

We’ve all seen the price of ectos drop most likely due to supply increase from people salvaging rares for wardrobe skins. After salvaging 20-25 rares in the past 2 days I’m calling arbitrary stealth nerf to their droprate.

RNG is RNG I know, but as someone who does world bosses more than most other content, seeing 1 mithril, followed by 1 rune, then 1 leather, and so on over and over again a pattern becomes apparent.

Anyone else having this experience?

salvaged 8 rares yesterday, got 11 ectos. salvaged 4 rares today, got 3 ectos

not to say that’s enough evidence to dispute a stealth nerf. but neither is salvaging 25 rares

Salvaged 503 rares since patch, got 425 ectos, all is fine.

Sigh.. okay thanks for the feedback.

Took a huge while, but my luck has finally gone back to normal. No more ‘10x rare without an eco in a row’ kind of luck anymore. It’s back to the old, normal 0,8-0,9 rate. But it took much longer then ever to recover. I salvaged over 1000 rares in the bad luck streak.

Got a bad streak on Thu/Fri, but was back to normal on Sat/Sun. All is fine.

Salvage rates return to normal when ectos are back up to 38s. I call shenanigans!