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Posted by: Crushnaut.8307

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Someone deleted the OP from anet, no idea why.

Thanks for info…

… goes to look if OP is quoted

… 5 pages later, nope

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Posted by: perche.3215

perche.3215

spark the precursor dagger at 398 g, only 4 availables ….

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Posted by: Shakki.3219

Shakki.3219

Next drop out Event needed.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

It’s just ridiculous… Dusk currently costs 535g:
http://cs410617.userapi.com/v410617093/3dc0/1U4KMmb_-lk.jpg

And still no updates from ANet. They just “working” on precursor scavenger hunt and “monitoring” the situation. I see.

I’ve done everything except Dusk for my Twilight. How many months/years should players wait till the real change in the situation?

P.S. Sure I can always buy it for GEMS. Just for ~$450, lol.
P.P.S. There are always a lot of ways to make soulbound or account bound precursors available for players for real ingame achievements. For example 250 tokens from each dungeon to craft two specific gifts, gift of <weapon type> mastery from special NPC (requires appropriate weapon master achievement) and any lvl 80 exotic <weapon type> with specific sigil. Combine it in MF and get you soulbound precursor. Problemo solved.

Just a reminder: precursor is only a part of legendary and shouldn’t be the main “pain in the *”.

When they said it was being worked on they said it would not be released in December.

I have nothing to base this on but it’s likely we’ll see the scavenger hunt in the January update.

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Posted by: Predator.1398

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I have nothing to base this on but it’s likely we’ll see the scavenger hunt in the January update.

I doubt that.

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Posted by: Volcanus.2756

Volcanus.2756

Going through these forums, the worst part about it is the lack of communication from anet. Last we heard on this topic was 2 months ago. And it’s not just this topic. Just about everything on these forums are like that.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

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I have nothing to base this on but it’s likely we’ll see the scavenger hunt in the January update.

I doubt that.

As I said I have nothing to base that on. But by January they will need to be addressing the issue again because prices for precursors continue to go up.

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Posted by: Exothermic.2185

Exothermic.2185

People will QQ long as there is a forum to listen. Scavenger Hunt will be the next topic to cry over. Your crazy if you think it wont be an insane grind that will make you re-think you RNG chances for a second. Also if people are really expecting to receive a precursor from some scavenger hunt be prepared to be disappointed, what you will most likely see implemented from “the hunt” are items which when combined in the forge offer a high chance at yielding precursors. Relax….your just not legendary enough for the challenge.

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Posted by: zeus.5248

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. Also if people are really expecting to receive a precursor from some scavenger hunt be prepared to be disappointed, what you will most likely see implemented from “the hunt” are items which when combined in the forge offer a high chance at yielding precursors.

Exactly my thought about how they going to implement this “scavenger hunt” Im pretty sure they will have a fix or high chance recipe which will be costing tones of materials like 250 ecto,200 lodestones etc..Which will have as a result, to skyrocket in a matter of seconds the price of all of these materials by the ppl who manipulate the tp who already have thousand of golds.

And then we will be back to square one where not only we will have a chance of getting one by either feeding mystic forge with 0,0000001% something chances to get one but we will have many other materials costing double in price that will make impossible to craft a precursor either with less than 400-500g.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

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i’ve spent 200 gold (which i farmed for 2 months)on mystic forge with 80 lv rare berserker gs=1000 swords did not get any kind of precursor, and get about 200-300 exotic which gave me crap too. i think getting a legendary is like einstein getting resurrected right now. and i am really frustrated that anet only nerf stuf , look at charged lodestone price if i can call it price ill rather call it CRAP for 5 gold each. That pile of crap drops like precursor (farmin it for 2 days with 100+ MF gear) and did not get any of those from sparks 80lv. (3 cores dropped btw) i know its a Legendary but ppl WTF 0.0001% is too low drop chance. and btw i reported 20 bots farming those sparks in Orr and they are still THERE. A MONTH have passed by and still seeing same bots all over same places. ANET WTF!? (they will delete this post 100% )

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Posted by: Sojournion.1847

Sojournion.1847

“We have been watching the prices climbing on Legendary precursors and share your concerns about some of them becoming too expensive. We will continue to monitor the situation and will make any adjustments we feel are necessary.”

LinseyMurdock

Game Designer

Well Anet, will you continue to watch the prices soar higher?

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Posted by: Erasmus.1624

Erasmus.1624

To be fair, they say a lot of things and promise little. Words like “We’re looking into it.” and “We’re monitoring… so and so.” pretty much means that they won’t be getting to that issue in the foreseeable future. Give it some time. Just gotta wait, yunno? A couple years, maybe, considering that it took them six years or so to create a minion user interface in GW1.

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Posted by: Agonize.2015

Agonize.2015

“We have been watching the prices climbing on Legendary precursors and share your concerns about some of them becoming too expensive. We will continue to monitor the situation and will make any adjustments we feel are necessary.”

LinseyMurdock

Game Designer

Well Anet, will you continue to watch the prices soar higher?

So any other new about precursor form Anet? just tell us which way we need to take, actually the only way for take a precursor are with REAL MONEY, tried via mystic forge (fail) tried with TP (fail cause the price is rise very quickly) tried farm gold (fail cause they nerf a lot of farm , Plinx , Arah, Penitent …), i think scavenger hunt is ready in a 2/3 months… actualy the GEM price is crazy, pls Anet tell us something new, good or bad but give us an hope or not i know a lot of ppl who buy Gold from sellers for finish their weapon dont let all do this way cause probably this way is a bad way for all the comunity ( more BOT more account Hack more rage quit)

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Posted by: erigais.6805

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i’ve spent 200 gold (which i farmed for 2 months)on mystic forge with 80 lv rare berserker gs=1000 swords did not get any kind of precursor, and get about 200-300 exotic which gave me crap too. i think getting a legendary is like einstein getting resurrected right now. and i am really frustrated that anet only nerf stuf , look at charged lodestone price if i can call it price ill rather call it CRAP for 5 gold each. That pile of crap drops like precursor (farmin it for 2 days with 100+ MF gear) and did not get any of those from sparks 80lv. (3 cores dropped btw) i know its a Legendary but ppl WTF 0.0001% is too low drop chance. and btw i reported 20 bots farming those sparks in Orr and they are still THERE. A MONTH have passed by and still seeing same bots all over same places. ANET WTF!? (they will delete this post 100% )

while i would not have set it in exactly this same way this is generally the same thing i want to say. down to the sparks and bots. i was also using 100+ mf gear till i got rid of it because it seems to be useless. and i see the same kitten bots everywhere i go. i still farm materials for a legendary even tho i dont have a precursor but after throwing gold at the forge and doing boring farming for something i probably wont get ive started to play other games lately. no i wont quit or at least i hope i wont and i still do wvw with my guild once in a while but the whole legendary/charged core/bot thing makes me feel like im wasting my time, which i am.

edit: imho they could fix all of this by taking the gold equation of legendaries. period. make them unsellable. make the precursors unsellable. make all of it be 100% be you going out and doing things.

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Posted by: perche.3215

perche.3215

spark the precursor dagger at 398 g, only 4 availables ….

7 days after, 2 availables at 580 and 589 g, go go another week and we can get the first precursor at 1000 g

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Posted by: bunn.4915

bunn.4915

Lol prices are now crazy, we need scavenger hunt now or at least an idea when it will be out or at least to know if this will even solve the solution to the precursor price problem

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Posted by: Bartas.4908

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I think I am going to give up with getting precursor. There was a time when Zap was priced for less than 100g, then it was slowly climbing in price up to 200g. Today I checked and saw 290g-300g price.

Funny thing is that there are ALWAYS 4 available at TP. Coincidence?

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Posted by: bunn.4915

bunn.4915

Yes and always a to buy order around the same price as well

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Posted by: Virindiira.1025

Virindiira.1025

Anet you have to do something with the precurser. It sucks thats is totaly random and luck based who gets his legendary and who not.
If you are not able to do it better then sell it in your Itemshop for ~2000 diamonds.

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Posted by: Laosduude.1690

Laosduude.1690

Got my Dawn 4 days ago through mystic forge in first attempt, super rng luck.

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Posted by: inori.7815

inori.7815

I have finished my 3/4 legendary.I use many exotic GW to mystic forge,but i still not get my precursors.Dusk in tp 580g.I never afford it.Maybe i should give up.

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Posted by: TheFallen.8270

TheFallen.8270

Never give up. just be smart and craft your rares and put in Mystic toilet. I gather some materials in map and some i buy. So on 100 rares i spend like max 15 g. At least if i craft crapy exotics i got my 15g back and i can start again.Oofcorse exotics which are less than 2 g i collect and do mystic toilet thing again. You need to be realy patient only.

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Posted by: Delsabre.5934

Delsabre.5934

Funny thread… surprised people don’t ask to get legendaries straight out of Character Creation…

And yeah, this is capitalism at it’s finest with no regulations restricting them. :P

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Posted by: Lucas Ashrock.8675

Lucas Ashrock.8675

Someone deleted the OP from anet, no idea why.

You need someone explain you this thread is just a whine area where customers can merge throwing in the wind a request of answers by Anet about something they don’t care at all? Why you think there isn’t anymore an Anet post on a stickied thread.
No, nothing is gonna change for long, long time, and no, nothing new incoming on january update. And no again, nothing on february too about legendaries. You have to remove the legendary topic from your mind at all, how many more empty pages of people throwing post begging answers you need , to understand noone is on the other side listening?
How many times we ask an answer by anyone from Anet on this thread? Try to count.
One day maybe we will have a scavenger hunt. (Maybe never) Don’t expect anything barely amazing about it, someone on this page wrote exactly what is coming

. Also if people are really expecting to receive a precursor from some scavenger hunt be prepared to be disappointed, what you will most likely see implemented from “the hunt” are items which when combined in the forge offer a high chance at yielding precursors. Relax….your just not legendary enough for the challenge.

in the pure gamble spirit of this game.

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Posted by: Kenshin.6154

Kenshin.6154

Just got dawn. And im not sure what they have done about rares and from which lvls you can get precursors, but it seems lv 45 items can yield a precursor too.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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Just got dawn. And im not sure what they have done about rares and from which lvls you can get precursors, but it seems lv 45 items can yield a precursor too.

Report it as a bug, only lvl 74+ items are supposed to give precursors.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

Yeah..kinda goes against what all the dev posts (that are now removed, what a coincidence) in this thread said.

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Posted by: Fire.4302

Fire.4302

lvl 45 seriously ?? any screens to back it up?

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Posted by: RandomLucker.1427

RandomLucker.1427

I just began to farm for a legendary weapon but now I know it better and I will stop it.
Useless with these bad chances to get the precursors.

And yeah why in gods name you don’t ban the stupid farm bots? Its so easy for a normal player to identify one in less then 5 minutes but ANet, with all the data seems to be unable to catch them! really??? WTF! You don’t even want to do anything against them right?
I am not sure if you know this but they make more inflation then a lot of players together!

Btw.:Stop adding contend and fix all the bugs and problems in game before.

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Posted by: eredz.7891

eredz.7891

I don’t know, but getting a legendary item is everything but legendary by this method.

When you try to get a precursor you lose time and gold. Anet should implement a method that, at least if you dont get that item, you should get some item and/or gold. Like going to dungeons: you went for X item, you didnt get it? at least you get something to sell.

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Posted by: Sojournion.1847

Sojournion.1847

So, the precursor dawn and dusk has gone up again, 510 and 522 respectively. Great job on monitoring the price! keep on monitoring

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Posted by: Mazrim.2167

Mazrim.2167

I think the hope Anet has is that the scavenger hunt “fixes” the presursor problem, but only would if the event was a permanent addition to the game and not some random temp event.

At this rate, the only thing I see on the forums is Anet humming-and-hawing regarding the precursor issue, while the 2% minority that have control of the TP market scorn those who speak out about it in the hopes that Anet NEVER truly addresses the problem with a permanent solution, lest their main “cash cow” get squashed.

And the elitists who come here claiming “lol-L2P noob! Legendary’s supposed to be hard”: L2READ: Most here only have issue with the main component of the Legendaries being in essense a lottery ticket versus something we actually go out and put forth hard work and EARN. In other words, because I know reading for some of you is hard — One guy could put in 10,000 hrs of time towards earning their Legendary, and never get the precursor, while some other guy could get “lucky” with the Korean RNG and only invest a tenth (or less) the time invested.

Not about trying to make something carebear, it’s about Anet cutting out the Las Vegas – style gambling odds BS that leeches away the “Legendary” feel of earning the weapon(s).

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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Its funny when people do a few tries and already think about drop rate changes.

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Posted by: Holger Danske.2184

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I dont like the disbalance between skill/gameplay and “just money”.

I personaly compare legendaries with the “god walking among mere mortals” in GW1. The huge difference is that for that title ingame gold helped only a tiny bit (Sugar/Alc/Party/Id Title) and real currency money didnt help at all – but the biggest part was GAMEPLAY (explorer, elite skills, missions, vanquisher, etc. etc. etc.)

Now its only a tiny part gameplay (dungeon tokens) and the rest is all about money – even real currency.

So keeping the money money money part but making the precursor obtainable through pure gameplay where money doesnt help you at all would be a way to restore the balance.

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Posted by: Holger Danske.2184

Holger Danske.2184

Ok, new update → just PERFECT !

If you consider the total player base we get a huge additional amount of rares and exotics (and thus precursor) through the dailys – by just playing and enjoying the game!
Also the new system attacks the current prices for t6 mats and lodestones by changig the droprate (t6-moldy bags) and adding ways to acquire them (lodestones).

Since it adresses ALL sides of the problems simultaneosly, we will see improvement for all those problems addressed here (see pre-patch post above). All the changes will add up and making the one of the endgame goals more gameplay and less credit card.

And also the developers managed to find a solution that will not replace one problem with another.

Clever and well done anet !

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

I’m actually quite surprised at the rate at which t6 materials are dropping now. We can only hope that within a few weeks the price of precursors start dropping as people are making less money in game.

Oh yeah, those new exotic jewel boxes in Orr give lodestones, too.

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Posted by: Kenage Achalarus.4276

Kenage Achalarus.4276

Ok here is what i have done for my legendary great sword Eternaty (still working on it atm) one is I have not got my precursors Dawn and Dusk. I have stoped dumping all my rare and exaudic greatswords to the mystic troll. and what Im trying to do is get everything else for my legendary. the Gift of twlight and sunrise. I understand that the legendary weapons should be a grind fest all the way to Orr and back. I love how the exotic jewel boxes give loadstones although I dumped 200k karma to them and got a lot of junk and a risen priest of Bathazar and a cold tonic. that was nice now we can finaly exchange, out karma for gold. about 4255 karma for maybe 5 silver. and Im glad that the heavy moldy bags drop a lot more frequently to help with my legendary but anet why no scavenger hunt? seriously look at the forums on this page. although I do hear that they may be implying more legendarys but that dosnt help the issue of the precurser lottery tickets. and I have checked in HoD on Lyssas temple and suprisling I have seen not bots in that area. (mostly because it constantly gets contested) and that update for the risen Avitars was nice although Grinth is a lot more over powerd with his votex that spit you up. but the real question I have on avitars is chest drop rate of precursers

Mark Katzbach:Areas, chests, and merchants in Orr now offer better rewards.
Mark dose that include the Avitars chest as well or are you refering to
Mark Katzbach:In PvE, if a player is awarded loot by killing a creature and the loot is of uncommon rarity or higher, a chest will appear that contains the loot that would previously have been on the corpse. If the rarity of the loot on the creature is lower than uncommon, the loot will remain on the creature’s corpse.
Would like that clarified please

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Posted by: Quise.5628

Quise.5628

I get three Dusk’s in less than two months.

Dusk No.1 – 12 December 2012 – I spent on him about 50 gold and on the second char still had about 40 rare greatsword. Profit: 550 gold

Dusk No.2 – 29 January 2013 – I spent on him 1560 Ascalonian Tear’s on exotic greatswords and that was all. Profit: 700 gold

Dusk No.3 – 30 January 2013 – I spent on him about 200 gold. Profit: Precursor for my Twilight

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

Dusk No.1 – 12 December 2012 – I spent on him about 50 gold and on the second char still had about 40 rare greatsword. Profit: 550 gold

Ok so for this first precursor you fed only green GSs into the forge?

Dusk No.2 – 29 January 2013 – I spent on him 1560 Ascalonian Tear’s on exotic greatswords and that was all. Profit: 700 gold

Do you have the math correct on that?

A single AC GS is 390 tears — so you bought exactly 4.333 GSs? Assuming that’s 4 GSs in total, you got a precursor at one feed through the forge?

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: Joel.6587

Joel.6587

I get three Dusk’s in less than two months.

Dusk No.1 – 12 December 2012 – I spent on him about 50 gold and on the second char still had about 40 rare greatsword. Profit: 550 gold

Dusk No.2 – 29 January 2013 – I spent on him 1560 Ascalonian Tear’s on exotic greatswords and that was all. Profit: 700 gold

Dusk No.3 – 30 January 2013 – I spent on him about 200 gold. Profit: Precursor for my Twilight

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I spent over 700g into forge(exotics and rares) and never got a precusor. Its luck..thats all.

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Posted by: Galrukh.6532

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Ok, new update -> just PERFECT !

If you consider the total player base we get a huge additional amount of rares and exotics (and thus precursor) through the dailys – by just playing and enjoying the game!
Also the new system attacks the current prices for t6 mats and lodestones by changig the droprate (t6-moldy bags) and adding ways to acquire them (lodestones).

Since it adresses ALL sides of the problems simultaneosly, we will see improvement for all those problems addressed here (see pre-patch post above). All the changes will add up and making the one of the endgame goals more gameplay and less credit card.

And also the developers managed to find a solution that will not replace one problem with another.

Clever and well done anet !

What ?
Are you getting rares and exotics through the dailies ?
Or do you mean just by doing the daily events you are bound to get some drops, I will be honest and say that my dailes so far have been almost the same as it used to except maybe the healer event and that doesnt give kitten.
Or do you mean that people will buy the boxes with random loot ? I can tell you that pretty much everyone in my guild is saving up for ascended items and not buying even a single box which I suspect many others will as well.
I foresee that precursors stay at exactly the same price (outrageous) or maybe even go up as people make more money with their karma (however little it is).

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Posted by: Legendary Grenth.3561

Legendary Grenth.3561

You guys are kittening quite a bit. So what someone got it to drop before you or used the MF. ITS A LEGENDARY WEAPON, LEGENDARY for a REASON!… those who bought it got it from bots and gold farmers. your other suggestions are far to easy to get the precursor. the game has been out for 5 months. If it wasn’t hard to get it wouldn’t be worth it, or even as cool to have it. You guys need to relax and keep at it or make money to buy it.

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Posted by: Bornthisway.4609

Bornthisway.4609

Kinda sad that this still isn’t fixed. And that’s coming from someone who’s gotten a precursor as a chest drop, and not during the cheesy Karka event.

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Posted by: azazil.9541

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Proly this will never going to fixed or answered by THEM but there is a always short-cuts for us/players.. If game not working try next game.

Thank you Arena.Net… was nice try, and was good game at some parts but not working.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

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Ok, new update -> just PERFECT !

If you consider the total player base we get a huge additional amount of rares and exotics (and thus precursor) through the dailys – by just playing and enjoying the game!
Also the new system attacks the current prices for t6 mats and lodestones by changig the droprate (t6-moldy bags) and adding ways to acquire them (lodestones).

Since it adresses ALL sides of the problems simultaneosly, we will see improvement for all those problems addressed here (see pre-patch post above). All the changes will add up and making the one of the endgame goals more gameplay and less credit card.

And also the developers managed to find a solution that will not replace one problem with another.

Clever and well done anet !

What ?
Are you getting rares and exotics through the dailies ?
Or do you mean just by doing the daily events you are bound to get some drops, I will be honest and say that my dailes so far have been almost the same as it used to except maybe the healer event and that doesnt give kitten.
Or do you mean that people will buy the boxes with random loot ? I can tell you that pretty much everyone in my guild is saving up for ascended items and not buying even a single box which I suspect many others will as well.
I foresee that precursors stay at exactly the same price (outrageous) or maybe even go up as people make more money with their karma (however little it is).

It won’t be in effect yet but with the laurels you can buy exotic <class> boxes that have a 100% chance of giving you two rares and a chance at exotics for 5 laurels.

However, we don’t know what exactly those boxes contain yet because there hasn’t been enough time since they came out. If it’s just armor, or armor and weapons, no one really knows yet. People are assuming they will drop precursors though. Last night and today are the first days people will be able to get them and most are probably holding off for the minipets or ascended amulets.

I think that is what the post was referring to as far as that goes, though.

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Posted by: Holger Danske.2184

Holger Danske.2184

Yepp, that was exactly was I was refering to. In my opinion the laurel update tackles all sides of legendary weapons simultaneously – and those boxes will flush a lot more rares and exotics into the game than before (I am talking about the total user base, not an individual).

Also Anet has shown (boxes→precurser; karma-chests→lodestones; laurel bags→t6 mats; drop rate moldy bags→t6 mats), that they are not happy about the state-of-the-art with legendaries.

So if all these measure I wrote about shouldn’t have any effect in half a year or so, there will be most certainly another update dealing with it.

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Posted by: Cardstar.1963

Cardstar.1963

Is there any news if the boxes drop precursors?

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

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Is there any news if the boxes drop precursors?

I don’t think enough time has passed yet. At most people will only have been able to buy 4 boxes and I think most people are saving for the ascended amulets.

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Posted by: Joel.6587

Joel.6587

So 1300 posts. I kinda think this is a high priority at this point in time. I know they are in the works for something to implement but 1300 posts later i think its worth our while to get a new update.

Official Response: Drop Rate of Legendary Precursors

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Posted by: Fatal.2815

Fatal.2815

Got Dusk today.

Felt kinda easy somehow to be honest.. never really played with Mystic forge so i know im lucky but I did exactly what my guildie did day before and it kinda worked..

I threw lvl 78-79 exotic Greatswords into mystic forge only. Lvl 80 ones are more expensive so I just sticked to 78-79 ones and after around 30 tries it just poped..

Sold it and bought The Legend cuz Bifrost is my goal : )

Keep trying people cuz it is hiding out there !

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