Guild Wars 2

$30.00 blown on this event.
10g worth of gems.
40 keys
Nothing cool. No kitteny shoulders, no skins, no permanent tonics/banker/etc.

The worst part? They ninja nerfed the keys return rate. I used 40 keys and got 4 back. 25% return rate my kitten.

I spent my money of my own free will and i’m not upset over the loss of money. I’m upset at the loss of faith in A.Net just to get over on the customers. What happened to integrity? Next time I feel like buying gems i’ll just make a donation to a food bank or homeless shelter.

Solinox.6251:

Im thinking I will just report my CC stolen, get my cash back. I win, they lose. And if they ban me, I will find another MMO. Dime a dozen.

So basically, your response to this is fraud and theft? That’s… nice.

By the way, if you paid through PayPal instead of directly through your CC, you’ll lose your PayPal account. They hate having to deal with CC chargebacks and they will know yours was a fraudulent theft report. And you’ll be out of a PayPal account. Permanently.

60 chests, 1 skin, so that one skin basically cost me 27,000 gems. wtf anet?

I think part of the problem here is the way that people are viewing the way of those that spent money to try to get these skins. People are viewing them as spoiled children who are mad they did not get what they want but that is the complete wrong view to take on this. A proper analogy on this would be more akin to something like this.

• Good analogy below starts and ends with markers.*

You are on a date with your bf/gf at a nice little place. It has a good reputation and you are taking him/her there as you’ve been there before and loved it. So you arrive ‘n’ sit down to order. The waiter/waitress seems nice takes your order and you begin to wait. They come out in moderate time a little slow but you let it pass with your starters you start to eat but find out some of the starters are a little cold. So you try to call the waiter/waitress over to get some different ones. They avoid you for awhile before taking them back for new ones. The new ones arrive all is well ‘n’ the main course arrives next. The main course turns out great but did take a little while to get to you.

Well here you are now at desert what this place is FAMOUS for in your area. The order is placed ‘n’ you wait… ‘n’ wait…. The waiter/waitress is called they keep a generic stall answer. This happens a few times before you get them to check on the kitchen. The waiter/waitress comes back a little late and only with one desert and not the one you ordered. So you send it back all the while trying to keep the romantic mood going as your bf/gf has never been here before and you are trying to make a good impression on your opinion ‘n’ get a good bang for your buck. The waiter/waitress comes back again but with nothing this time and says sorry we are out of that. Now your bf/gf seemed to have their heart set on this and it is the desert they are FAMOUS for once again. You press a little more implying politely that you had to send the starters back and the main course was a little late on top of this. Surely there is something they could do?

Now here comes the end of this long tail. The waiter/waitress beats around the bush again before getting a manager. The manager doesn’t offer you any free food for the problems that were caused nor do they seem to want to say sorry for the mistakes made. Instead they comment on how their rare desert is really a first come first serve. You poke a little more after they say that about how disappointed you are ‘n’ after a few more pokes get a half hearted kinda apology.

Then the bill arrives for this whole thing after the manager leaves. You are a little annoyed and your bf/gf seems uncomfortable that you had say anything at all ‘n’ thinks you shouldn’t say squat. Which is a little odd since these things are standard to ask at a fancy restaurant that is well known and gave a kinda bleck performance tonight. You just sigh and open your bill. Woah… something seems wrong here. This bill is a little expensive even more so since you didn’t get the prime FAMOUS desert. So you once again motion for the waiter/waitress ‘n’ go through the motions. They say sorry but you did order the three course meal and even if you didn’t get the desert the sales are final as you got ‘n’ ate the other things. You debate with them awhile but end up paying the price as your bf/gf wants to leave.

After you leave the whole atmosphere is kinda ruined for the evening. Your bf/gf doesn’t really want to do much else and you feel like you kinda ruined a good evening for them with all this. So you drop them off and feel kinda down for a little bit. You will not be recommending this place to friends or family. Nor will you be coming back even though the place had a good reputation. They just didn’t seem to want your money for the long term.

• The end.*

So with all that happening would you go back to that place? Would you speak positive of that place? Would you recommend it to friends? Of course you wouldn’t! Any other form of business and what they did with the chests would be called bad service, a money grab, used car salesman tactics to get you to buy it, stuff like that. Yet, here in the mmorpg or just mmo world? It is viewed as just fine and I will never understand that.

This MMO world has fanboys or just people in general that tell all the people that lost money or were treated unfairly tough cookie. They never want things to change for the better in any way and it is just strange. It is like the gaming world loves to be abused in these ways. =/

Now I’ve had experiences that A-Net has made right. They got me my collectors issue stuff back the 2k gems spent the wrong way due to another issue. However there have been a few that have been kinda eh.. such as the lack of a system to get things to people that could have been deleted, karma vendor misclick, etc. That many other mmorpg’s have. So I am not saying A-net is a bad company overall. Do not take this as that. In fact in beta I spoke with several developers and they were really awesome. So once again not saying doom and gloom.

However on this one? I am with all the people that didn’t get any items. They spent real life cash expecting at least some return on it but got nothing. These are not items you can get year round like the rare hats in TF2. Nor are they rare legendary items I can once again make year round. These are items you have one chance a year to make. That one single chance! That is it! Is it so wrong for the rates to be in a more moderate area?

A-Net would have more people spending money as they’d read they had a fair shot instead of a bad one so thus more people would buy gems. They’d also get more money in the long run as these customer would likely come back to spend more money. They’d also tell their friend of the good experience they had instead of a bad one. The skins would still be rare as they are just here once a year. People will accidentally delete them, get tired of them for new skins, stop playing for awhile, new people will sign on later without them. So the rarity of the skins would still stay fairly rare.

I see no reason A-net cannot reach a compromise with these fans at all. Nor do I see any good reason as to why the people are so hostile to those just wanting something for their real money spent. Just looney.

And here I was about to go home from work, get about 100 keys and enjoy some new weapon skins…..HAHAHA no way now Anet. Pizza and beer is a much better purchase with more of a rewarding feeling.

So, I opened about 20 chest and no skin either…

I have to admit, the first time I saw the event page talking about taking chances with BLC, I was a bit taken back, because I’ve played enough F2P games to know this kind of tactic. But then I quickly thought: “This is Anet we’re talking about, given their good history and design philosophy, they wouldn’t really go that low right?”

First 10 boxes I opened – no skin, I thought it was just bad luck. Then another 5 boxes – no skin, ok maybe I was extremely unlucky. Another 5 boxes opened – still no skin…this seemed just not worth it.

I wouldn’t go that extreme to say that in the future that I’ll definitely not spend anymore money on the game (I could bear other more terrible companies, so why not Anet?), but I know that next time if similar cash item appear, I’ll trust my first instinct and not trust Anet anymore…because their good image have crumbled in my eyes in a considerable speed.

Honestly, spending only about $20 wasn’t a lot for me, but they definitely lost some trust from me. I guess they’re just that desperate in needing more money that they’re willing to sacrificed some of their customer’s trust.

Btw, those of you who are saying that we can have fun in many other Halloween events, and not limited to getting skins from BLC, you may be right – because I’m indeed having fun in some other events, but that doesn’t mean I can’t express my negativity concern about BLC and BLC only.

Just a small note by the way if A-net reads the reply? The rest of the event is indeed amazing. Thank you for that but I do sympathize with the others. I’d have liked a skin off the TP or otherwise to remember this first event in GW2 for as long as I am around. The chainsaw does indeed look great.

@Neon.4863, why not? I concider what they did as fraud. kitten for tat.

Here’s what needs to happen. Buying keys for real life money needs to guarantee at least one good/fun/useful item per chest. Go ahead and keep the low drop rate for the rare stuff. Just make it so that, if I spend my money in the gem store, I know that at the very least I’ll get some fun or useful stuff, with a chance of winning the lottery.

LOL… Knew this kitten would happen.
First time I saw the BLC’s and Gem Store Keys with their horrific drop rates I went “Hmmm, wont be touching those”
Then the Halloween Update was announced and I saw the statement regarding new skins in BLC’s and went " Oh no, here we go. This wont end well for Anet or the Customer base "
Srry to all those involved. It’s nice to be proven correct but not at the expense of others.
BLC’s are gambling. Pure and simple. Most Countries legislate against online gambling yet so many of these FTP games are really blatant about it. Methinks there should be some Govt Departments involved in this kind of thing.

I’m surprised there hasn’t been any response from Anet in this thread yet. The only reason I can think, is they just don’t care enough.

I’m pretty sure I won’t ever buy keys (just like dyes) from the BLT now. I’m now tempted to just delete (not even sell on TP) the chests I’ve been saving, just so they can’t be used to support Anet in anyway shape or form.
I’m not even sure if I should support them and buy the costumes (especially since they are radically different from GW1 ones).

Varen.8507:

munkiman.3068:

theerrantventure.9185:

This thread has over 24k views, amazing!

The system is fine. Chests are a gamble not a guarantee. Las Vegas exists with this principle in mind yet you rarely see people besmirching the city due to losses at the casinos. It’s expected you’re gonna lose so if you do win it’s exciting!

The system isn’t fine if it truly is considered gambling, since it’s pretty much illegal in almost all of the US and i’m sure other places as well. And yes, plenty of people besmirch Vegas, it is the city of sin after all.

Seriously man, the illegal argument is not gonna pan out for ya.

Seriously, i’m not arguing anything, i’m not even against it or complaining. I’m just stating that if it’s considered gambling than it’s more hassle than it’s worth on their end.

The Spiral King.2483:

It’s definitely that they don’t care. They’re quick enough to respond to threads that praise them, you can see that right now based on the topics that have official responses to them.

In their defense they have responded to the complaints. “Thank you all very much for your feedback about this issue. We’ve already informed the team about all the concerns expressed in this thread, and they’ll look into it. Thanks again.” (wouldn’t link for some reason)

Translate that as you wish but I don’t believe that the complaints fall on deaf ears. I don’t feel they need to constantly reply to the same complaint more than once. Now we just wait to see what is done about it in the future.

Seriously you didn’t think to feel out the market before plunking down $30+ to gamble? And now you QQ? You knew what you were getting into. And, if you DIDN’T then, that’s even worse and you were foolish for going into a gamble ignorant of the odds.

Entitlement indeed. Move to Greece.

/rant

Well I will be upset if there is something wrong and I don’t get at least the gems I used back.

I want my money back , I feel like I have been misinformed by Anet saying you will get your unique weapons by buying the black lions keys on the gem store, that’s not cool at all QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

The entire problem is 99% of us opening a bunch of these chests literally got NOTHING AT ALL. Like Vorpal said, anyone spending 10 bucks on some keys should definitely have almost been garunteed SOMETHING. Not just a “thanks for the money sucker” feeling.

I held Anet in super high regard prior to this. I have outright stuck up for them in real life conversation. I just cant see myself doing that anymore. They really dont care about their players, or worse yet the people financially supporting them, end of story. Its inarguable.

1) Can i get a refund for the poorly designed falsely advertised chests

2) Are you even debating how you plan on dealing with the angry people towards your "fun, festive – event "

3) If you are debating the poor implementation/false promised one in six skins in a chest box…. Are you going to compensate everyone who bought keys? Perhaps Sending us One random skin Per five keys bought seems on par and fair through the mail

4) Who best do we send concerns to for this game and how we feel? Is it here? Is it twitter? Is there a specific dev we are supposed to complain to?

5) Are you willing to accept the fact you have permanently tarnished your reputation regardless of who you decide to please at this point?

6) Can you admit you make mistakes as far as advertising and PR? Saying something si random and slapping us in the face with a blunt kitten is not a good way to go about things

7) Was anything learned here?

8) Do you take the steps to go on the path towards reearning our trust/faith?

9) Can you go the distance and do one better? You know that thing you talked about when you were first making this game with all those videos people like to pull up and throw in your face?

Finally im sorry for having jaded double edged questions but im very unhappy im out fifty bucks and now im looking at playing WoW or some other game where at least i know what im buying. I really liked your pvp design i liked your questing… i just dont like how i feel playing your game on somethign that should be fun. Please help me be happy with you…

A sad fan boi ( dervish )

garraeth.3267:

Seriously you didn’t think to feel out the market before plunking down $30+ to gamble? And now you QQ? You knew what you were getting into. And, if you DIDN’T then, that’s even worse and you were foolish for going into a gamble ignorant of the odds.
/rant

Consider the money well used. They are subsidizing cheapskates like me who won’t spend a single dime gambling without knowing the odds.

Exactly.

X2

Only I spent 100$ and got kitten

The people who are complaining about this are the exact demographic targeted by Anet for their cash store.

Anet kitten those people off.

If you didn’t spend $$$, then you really don’t have a say in this topic. You’re butting in to someone else’s conversation simply to tell them they’re wrong. It’s rude. And what’s worse, is that you’re not even really getting why they’re mad.

They’re not mad cause they didn’t get their rare skin. They’re mad because they don’t fell they got their money’s worth out of the product. And as the consumer, they have a right to let the company know. It’s why companies used to have comment cards. Only now, the comment cards aren’t put in a box. They’re placed where everybody can see them. Imagine if you had a complaint about mcdonalds, and the minute you made that complaint, everybody in the mcdonalds started telling you how stupid you were. Would you feel good? Would you go back and spend more money there? Does it diminish how you feel, or diminish the validity behind your complaint? No. It doesn’t.

Anet made a bad business decision. Plain and simple. When your target demographic (that’s the people you go after with your product, cause they’re the ones with the most money) feels screwed, they will go chase another product. And when there’s nobody to spend money in the shop, the shop closes. And then the product isn’t available anymore.

Trying to belittle people’s feelings and complaints about the situation doesn’t help. It certainly doesn’t foster the community spirit that Anet was trying to foster. It only make you look ignorant for not truly seeing why people are upset. Are some people mad cause they didn’t get their chainsaw? Sure. Are more people upset because all we got was the same crap that you can get any time of year? Yes. The advertising for this event was misleading at best. People have a right to be upset. You don’t have the right to belittle them.

I think we need to keep things in perspective. In Anet’s defense, this is the first time they’re having a holiday event, with a new game, and a new Gem Store which is the first time they’ve tried anything like it. So the best they can do is their best at the moment. Right? After each event, they’ll learn lessons and make improvements. Eventually, they’ll have these things down pat.

If you’re not happy with the way this event is being handled, don’t buy any Halloween stuff in the Gem Store. That sends a message loud and clear.

That all said, I dispute anyone that thinks Anet doesn’t care. Of course they care. Their jobs depend on them caring about the player base being happy. It’s inherently in their best interest to keep the majority of the player base happy, so that people continue playing the game and hopefully purchase future expansions. It’s in Anet’s interest to make sure most players are satisfied with their experiences in the Gem Store, so that those players are more likely to make purchases again. Etc. Think about it.

next time make a recipe with 1000000 of each component, 250 is not enough

It just blows my mind away that lots of people on average, from what I can tell dropped about $30 in gems for this event. Most of them got ….. nothing. WTF! How on earth could anet think anyone would be OK with that? Who is OK with just tossing away $30? Even at a casino there are warnings and chances posted. Good god.

I get that some of the posters here that think its OK might be kids or teenagers with no understanding of how this is just silly but Anet? Really?

I’m so glad I didn’t buy any gems for this and I know going forward to never drop another penny.

Exactly right buzzkapow.

I spent 100$ and got absolutely nothing, nothing I will ever need or use that I couldnt have gotten through in game currency at any time.

To say I feel cheated is a clear understatement.

I see lots of people saying the advertisement was poor, could you explain what you mean by this, please? I’m trying very hard to see your side of things, so I want to know what exactly was poorly worded.

Silly quoting not working.
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kinome.4236
I work a good job, I have some disposable income to throw around, last night I blew about 30 dollars on gems to open some 40 or so lockboxes. didnt get crap. so now youve basically killed any goodwill and potential future sales with me forever.

Lets play what if now. what if those 40 boxes yieldes 3 or 4 skins, even if a majorty of those skins I couldnt use immediately, id be very temped to bust out my credit card and keep making purchases of gems so I could get all the vanity items for each of my current and future toons. When all is said and done you would have had me for probably a bit over a hundred bucks easy.

A feeding frenzy like this from me every 3 months or so rounds out to about 400+ a year. Thats far better than 15 a month. Even better is if the skins were on sale on the gem store for around 10 bucks each. all the shoulder armors plus all the weapon skins and again, people would easily drop 100 bucks to unlock and purchase evrything. As is yeah, you suckered a few people with this nonsense but I doubt its gonna go over as well for your next event.

way to gimmick your playerbase and thin out your die hard supporters who WERE willing to throw gobs of money at you IF you played nice. Not so much anymore.
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This 1000 times this. I blew ~$30 on keys too, i don’t care that i did it, i have the money. But thats it, you wasted your chance to make me spend more…ever. Kinome hit the nail on the head, what if i got a few event items but not the ones i wanted with my $30 bucks? I would have spent another $30 because i knew event items were obtainable. With this “system” it does not encourage me to spend anything after the first round of nothing. Other people have mentioned how Riot Games runs LoL’s cash shop, I blew more money on that game then I ever thought I would, because i got what i paid for everytime without fail.

Sorry but you turned off a large percentage of your paying customers. Turning people willing to buy Gems into people that won’t buy Gems is a poor business decision last time i checked. I will still play and enjoy your game but I will do it for free.

So, people spent money on keys – and because they didn’t get what they expected on the first day of the event, they’re all upset?

I understand disappointment, but seriously?

Seriously, we are people spending $100 on a chance of an item. Much rather spend $100, convert it to gold and put it towards a precursor items for a legendary.

The Spiral King.2483:

It’s definitely that they don’t care. They’re quick enough to respond to threads that praise them, you can see that right now based on the topics that have official responses to them.

You seriously think they don’t care? You think they spent five-plus years on this game, put as much time and effort as they did to make something this high-quality, continue to work on additional content and holiday events, and they don’t care?

GTFO, seriously.

They already responded to this thread. Why should they keep responding when people are being so irrational and rude? People spent real money trying to get in-game items, and didn’t. It’s free-to-play, there’s no monthly fee, no one made them hand over real money. People need to take responsibility for their actions, not blame someone else.

It is their first event in a new game with a new system, the trading post. Maybe they’ll tweak the drop rates to make people happy, at least in future events. Who knows. Things can only improve from here. But the hostility is not helping the situation.

ArenaNet, thanks for all your hard work.

Dear NCsoft. Here is a saying that may be very helpful in the future.

“you can shear a sheep many times, but can only skin him once.”

After reading many sites, threads and posts (forums and in-game about ’ween event), I doubt that you will be doing either(again) unless change(s) happen.

-If I am mistaken and anet has the say, well…shame on them.

thanks.

@FalconDance

How does “it being the first day” of the event negate the fact that people spent $100 or more and feel cheated? Will Anet refund their money later on in the event? ….no they won’t.

Anet should have had a disclaimer on their Halloween page.

“Warning: You may not get what you want in games of chance. The coffee is hot too, btw.”

People can go on all they want about how ANet never promised anything, it was your choice, the skins should be rare to be prestigious, etc etc, but it doesn’t matter.

At the end of the day the monetization team has to look at the long-term future of the store. They need to encourage people to use the gem store. The abysmal drop rate of skins here actively discourages people from spending money that they would otherwise be quite happy to give to ANet. If you want people to purchase your goods then it’s not smart to have a lot of dissatisfied customers.

I really think that for future events that the droprates will be higher. It just seems like the best way to get people to spend money on the store, feel happy about it, and be willing to do so again.

Wow, just wow reading all these comments now I know how a free to play game makes money.

no we didnt get anything even remotely resembling halloween in the boxes, much less the one in six weapons as advertised or as the dev who responded so snarkily its a change at a one in six chance so less than 1%. Shoulda wrote that on the page that the chances for gettting nothing are higher than getting ANYTHING related to the event.

@ Aerin quote “It’s free-to-play, there’s no monthly fee, no one made them hand over real money. People need to take responsibility for their actions, not blame someone else.”

So very true…although also true that Anet needs to take responsibility for deliberately making the only way to get items a gamble. This would be like saying someone who lost all their money betting on dog fighting should take responsibility, but the owners of the dog fighting ring are saints for even offering them the chance to win money, but have done nothing wrong themselves.

kinome.4236:

As fail of an mmo as it was, look to swtor for the correct way to do an event like this. running the event daily nets you costume pieces that are bound to that toon.

That actually sounds brilliant. I mean, being rewarded for participation is a lot better than being rewarded for the size of your pockets, be it cash or gold wise.

As much of a GW2 fanboy as I am (yeah, I’m honest enough to admit that), I’ll lie if I say that I’m not somewhat disappointed by the fact that a good portion of this holiday event is gem driven, especially the great skins. You know, make them obtainable in the world, like Kinome said, as part of a reward when you’ve gone through a large part of the event, I’d say by handing out a token, then redeeming it during the last day. But still have it easily obtainable in the BLTC to those who can’t participate in the full event, or if you just want more skins. As it stands now though, rare or not, opening 25 chests and getting no rewards is just terrible. All trick and no treat.

On a side note, I think ANet should consider giving out a small amount of gems in game. For instance, granting players 3-5 gems for completing the monthly achievement. Or they could introduce weekly achievements with more randomized goals, which is then one of the sole ways of finding gems in game.

@Rickets

Just a thought, but this event goes on for a week or so. We already know that content will be added periodically specifically for this event all that while. Why would anyone spend all their money on the first day and then decide that, because they didn’t get what they expected (‘cause we all know that the odds are always in our favor and not anyone else’s), Anet is obviously greedy and uncaring about their customers. I’m sorry, but that sort of attitude is childish; gimme what I want, what I expect or I’m going to raise holy smoke and take my toys home forever.

Now, not that I’m accusing anyone here of this, but coming from 7+ years of GW1, I know that there are those who rush in, essentially grab up/buy the special goods as soon as possible and then re-sell, driving up the market prices. Perhaps Anet took that into consideration (it is a valid idea) and deliberately drizzled out the chance rate so that wouldn’t happen so soon. I don’t know – and neither does anyone besides the developers – what the actual percentage is, but apparently there are individuals who have opened chests and received special goods since there are apparently ones for sale.

Heck, I’m reading 17 pages (just this thread alone) of people griping and griefing – and I was tickled pink today to get really good armor drops on my girls and gleefully looked forward to finding pumpkins to carve, candy corn nodes and trick-or-treat bags fall from foe.

They have just destroyed my faith in them. What happened to the amazing people that created GW1?

Anet 1 – Players 0 ?

Oh my God, what a money grab this was. And you all fell for it. I guess the “conspiracy theorists” and the “haters” were right after all, eh?

I completely understand why people who spent a considerable amount of money would be upset. I am not saying that they are ‘whining’ for nothing and I would hope no one would accuse me of being some sort of white knight. I do want to add a few small points, some of which have been elaborated on on great length or touched upon (I did not read all these posts obviously so maybe this is entirely a rerun like Fresh Prince).

The summary of my brief notes bellow…….Expectations be all kittened up.

1- ArenaNet needs to give a response to these players concerns and frustrations. They need to come up with a suitable way to address these players but no matter what response they conceive some players will still be disgruntled. I have no reason to believe that no one cares despite what some angry players think, their jobs depend on a steady flow of players (and money).

2- As others have mentioned this is a gamble, playing the lottery, flirting with lady luck, some double entendre I am having trouble thinking of. AS SUCH there is a chance to get absolutely nothing from opening numerous chests. I would agree the ‘drop rate’ is quite low though. It is still a gamble and additional keys only buy attempts however and at no point should any reasonable person think that because they bought more then the other guy is it a guaranteed result. No more then playing the lottery every day of your life and never winning more then a free ticket.

3- Obviously ArenaNet was entirely planning for people to buy keys for this event however maybe they didn’t anticipate so many players would buy so many keys(with real money). I am sure they fully expected some players to put down a fair amount of money to buy these keys, and some would get nothing but perhaps the amount of people who spent all this money is much higher then anticipated.

Edit: Just a small edit to add some advice I am sure is going to get scoffed at(or perhaps my lampshading that will prevent the scoffing? scofferoonery? scoffportunity?) simply don’t bet it all on your first hand. In this case test the waters a bit first, if you expected to get lets say 1 skin in 10 boxes (the number is unimportant it could be 1 skin in 2 or 1 in a Googolplexian) then if that seems reasonable buy an appropriate amount of keys. If you don’t get 1 in the 10 boxes you thought it would take simply don’t buy more, as opposed to putting down the money for a equivalent of 100 keys (once again figure is unimportant for this example).

Just adding my 2 copper. I am of a similar mindset to quite a few in this thread. I was not expecting to get every item, but after being a fairly regular user of the gem shop previously.. I will not be giving my greenbacks for anything else in game again.. Well over 50 chests today, and not a whiff of anything from the event has left a really bad taste in my mouth. I really enjoy GW2, but that just smacks of a greedy, borderline sadistic mindset. I know the chests are gambling, but you have to support players who participate in the cash shop that earns money for the game. By making something so expensive/rare that you turn off that portion of your player base, you are just shooting yourself in the foot.

Mr. Rainfall, I appreciate the fact that you took time out of your day to write that post that has nothing to contribute to this thread. If you had read through (most) of the logical complaints, it is not about the fact that people are whining about not receiving skins, its more along the lines of spending real cash and not receiving ANYTHING event-related. So next time sir, before you tell someone to “Get Out”, you might want to take your own advice or at least understand what the problem is before posting, thank you.

Gauradan.8361:

Oh my God, what a money grab this was. And you all fell for it. I guess the “conspiracy theorists” and the “haters” were right after all, eh?

I didn’t fall for it. I got what I wanted out of the chests and it was money well spent.

@Reginold.

Oh wow. You got me. Well no that’s easy to discuss and argue. Why should you HAVE to get a halloween item just because you paid with real money? No reason at all. You had a chance to use an item already in the game with added bonuses. You win or you don’t. Have some self control. The audacity of some people is just disgusting.

FalconDance.1637:

@Rickets

Just a thought, but this event goes on for a week or so. We already know that content will be added periodically specifically for this event all that while. Why would anyone spend all their money on the first day and then decide that, because they didn’t get what they expected (‘cause we all know that the odds are always in our favor and not anyone else’s), Anet is obviously greedy and uncaring about their customers. I’m sorry, but that sort of attitude is childish; gimme what I want, what I expect or I’m going to raise holy smoke and take my toys home forever.

Now, not that I’m accusing anyone here of this, but coming from 7+ years of GW1, I know that there are those who rush in, essentially grab up/buy the special goods as soon as possible and then re-sell, driving up the market prices. Perhaps Anet took that into consideration (it is a valid idea) and deliberately drizzled out the chance rate so that wouldn’t happen so soon. I don’t know – and neither does anyone besides the developers – what the actual percentage is, but apparently there are individuals who have opened chests and received special goods since there are apparently ones for sale.

Heck, I’m reading 17 pages (just this thread alone) of people griping and griefing – and I was tickled pink today to get really good armor drops on my girls and gleefully looked forward to finding pumpkins to carve, candy corn nodes and trick-or-treat bags fall from foe.

You’re missing the point. I personally don’t give a crap about my $30 i spent, i have the money. But, i want GW to succeed and it will not succeed if the people willing to pay real money don’t feel that paying real money is worth it. Don’t kid yourself, there are two types of players in GW2, freeloaders and Gem buyers. If you kitten off all the Gem buyers and turn them into freeloaders you’re not going to make much money are you, which translates into no new content for anyone…and eventually no money = no GW2.

What would have happened if i would have spent $30 and got 2 or 3 event items but not the ones i wanted? I would have bought another $30 worth of keys. Do you see how it’s in Anet’s best interest to make people willing to buy Gems feel like they are getting what they pay for?

“I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” – Maya Angelou

it would have been nice to have a skin to remember our first holiday together in GW2, but I have the best stats on my gear, so it’s all good.. Nice decoration work btw!!

rickets.1386:

FalconDance.1637:

@Rickets

Just a thought, but this event goes on for a week or so. We already know that content will be added periodically specifically for this event all that while. Why would anyone spend all their money on the first day and then decide that, because they didn’t get what they expected (‘cause we all know that the odds are always in our favor and not anyone else’s), Anet is obviously greedy and uncaring about their customers. I’m sorry, but that sort of attitude is childish; gimme what I want, what I expect or I’m going to raise holy smoke and take my toys home forever.

Now, not that I’m accusing anyone here of this, but coming from 7+ years of GW1, I know that there are those who rush in, essentially grab up/buy the special goods as soon as possible and then re-sell, driving up the market prices. Perhaps Anet took that into consideration (it is a valid idea) and deliberately drizzled out the chance rate so that wouldn’t happen so soon. I don’t know – and neither does anyone besides the developers – what the actual percentage is, but apparently there are individuals who have opened chests and received special goods since there are apparently ones for sale.

Heck, I’m reading 17 pages (just this thread alone) of people griping and griefing – and I was tickled pink today to get really good armor drops on my girls and gleefully looked forward to finding pumpkins to carve, candy corn nodes and trick-or-treat bags fall from foe.

You’re missing the point. I personally don’t give a crap about my $30 i spent, i have the money. But, i want GW to succeed and it will not succeed if the people willing to pay real money don’t feel that paying real money is worth it. Don’t kid yourself, there are two types of players in GW2, freeloaders and Gem buyers. If you kitten off all the Gem buyers and turn them into freeloaders you’re not going to make much money are you, which translates into no new content for anyone…and eventually no money = no GW2.

What would have happened if i would have spent $30 and got 2 or 3 event items but not the ones i wanted? I would have bought another $30 worth of keys. Do you see how it’s in Anet’s best interest to make people willing to buy Gems feel like they are getting what they pay for?

You paid for a chance to get a rare skin. You got exactly what you paid for. A chance. What am i missing?