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I mean… technically the description was correct about applying confusion…
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Because insulting the devs will help the process, and you know the code and their working conditions well enough to be affirmative they could have done better. Wait, no, you are just being rude for the sake of it!
They have to deal with an incredibly complex system, here, and update it every two weeks. Of course there are bugs. Never ever expect perfection from a computer system. Even space rockets blow up because of bugs, and I don’t think the NASA (or any other space agency) is “a bunch of amateurs”.
I play this game this the first beta event. I saw how it was running smoothly and with very few issues. Then I saw the release, and every day since then has brought its share of bugs, sometime new ones, sometime older ones coming back again. And it may surprise you, prepare yourself, but I actually spent money on this game ! Yeah I know, it’s incredible right ? When you pay for something, it’s pretty common to have expectation about the quality of the product. Probably something you didn’t know.
What do I care about their working condition ? It’s their work. If I develop software for a client, do you think I’m gonna say “Sir, you don’t know my working conditions, if you pay me and I give you bad work, it’s not my fault.”
And btw, their “incredibly complex system” is THEIR work. THEY did that. You don’t do something utterly complex and then say it’s not your fault. It’s your work. Either you did it good, or you don’t. Period.
I am willing to be understanding on a lot of things that don’t work as intended. But seriously, events not progressing ? Still the same thing as day one. Chest that can’t be opened ? Day one.
And don’t think that I just have unreasonably high expectations. I have always said, and I will continue to say, that I would have preferred less content, less frequent, and better worked out, rather than incredibly buggy events every months. Plus, when living story was only a one man job, I could understand the flaws. Now there are multiples teams working on it, and it’s still the same thing. So if your standards are low, and you are willing to spend your money on stuff that never improve, be my guest. But don’t project that on other people
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Because insulting the devs will help the process, and you know the code and their working conditions well enough to be affirmative they could have done better. Wait, no, you are just being rude for the sake of it!
They have to deal with an incredibly complex system, here, and update it every two weeks. Of course there are bugs. Never ever expect perfection from a computer system. Even space rockets blow up because of bugs, and I don’t think the NASA (or any other space agency) is “a bunch of amateurs”.
I play this game this the first beta event. I saw how it was running smoothly and with very few issues. Then I saw the release, and every day since then has brought its share of bugs, sometime new ones, sometime older ones coming back again. And it may surprise you, prepare yourself, but I actually spent money on this game ! Yeah I know, it’s incredible right ? When you pay for something, it’s pretty common to have expectation about the quality of the product. Probably something you didn’t know.
What do I care about their working condition ? It’s their work. If I develop software for a client, do you think I’m gonna say “Sir, you don’t know my working conditions, if you pay me and I give you bad work, it’s not my fault.”
And btw, their “incredibly complex system” is THEIR work. THEY did that. You don’t do something utterly complex and then say it’s not your fault. It’s your work. Either you did it good, or you don’t. Period.I am willing to be understanding on a lot of things that don’t work as intended. But seriously, events not progressing ? Still the same thing as day one. Chest that can’t be opened ? Day one.
And don’t think that I just have unreasonably high expectations. I have always said, and I will continue to say, that I would have preferred less content, less frequent, and better worked out, rather than incredibly buggy events every months. Plus, when living story was only a one man job, I could understand the flaws. Now there are multiples teams working on it, and it’s still the same thing. So if your standards are low, and you are willing to spend your money on stuff that never improve, be my guest. But don’t project that on other people
You were still being rude when there wasn’t a call to be. You can criticize results without name calling, right?
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Again, you didn’t see the code nor the condition it was developed under. I stand my ground.
Maybe there was only one developer which had impossible time constraint and no anterior knowledge of the application, and had to cut corners, and he manage to make (more or less) something work when most other wouldn’t have even the base of their evolution. Maybe some manager told the development team “do this” when it was stupid, and they didn’t have any possibility to voice their disagreement. Maybe not, and they totally botched the job because they are bad at their job. We can’t know, we can just guess. Yes, some error are really suspicious, but openly insulting them on the ground of guess is rude. Incredibly rude. At least, attacking ANet, I would have understand: they are responsible for the problems, whatever they are, as the product provider, and they can hand down the blame to whoever deserves it. But the developer? Really?
I play this game this the first beta event. I saw how it was running smoothly and with very few issues. Then I saw the release, and every day since then has brought its share of bugs, sometime new ones, sometime older ones coming back again.
I was there in BWE1. Well, not at first start, since it was so buggy one couldn’t play at all!
Then it went better and better with the time. And the current state is way, way ahead of the beginning of the BWE. Yes, new features have bug, but did you notice that they where, well… new features ? That haven’t been extensively tested in a controlled and large scale test? (lack of test realm make for a better complaint)
And it may surprise you, prepare yourself, but I actually spent money on this game ! Yeah I know, it’s incredible right ? When you pay for something, it’s pretty common to have expectation about the quality of the product. Probably something you didn’t know.
Note I didn’t say “don’t complain”, but “don’t insult a person you know nothing about”. You are totally free to ask compensations to ANet (your provider) about what they sold you. The developer didn’t sell anything to you.
What do I care about their working condition ? It’s their work. If I develop software for a client, do you think I’m gonna say “Sir, you don’t know my working conditions, if you pay me and I give you bad work, it’s not my fault.”
Yes, his working condition is none of your business… as long as you don’t attack him personally for thing that are in direct relation with his work conditions! The problem here, is some people assume that “not having bug” is easy as just double checking a tweet before sending it. I want to remind them that actual development work is way more complex and stressful than that.
And btw, their “incredibly complex system” is THEIR work. THEY did that. You don’t do something utterly complex and then say it’s not your fault. It’s your work. Either you did it good, or you don’t. Period.
Nope. The system is the work of tenth and tenth of people. Those who laid the basis of GW2 may have quit long ago, and it’s doubtful any one person know all of the code of GW2.
I am willing to be understanding on a lot of things that don’t work as intended. But seriously, events not progressing ? Still the same thing as day one. Chest that can’t be opened ? Day one.
And don’t think that I just have unreasonably high expectations. I have always said, and I will continue to say, that I would have preferred less content, less frequent, and better worked out, rather than incredibly buggy events every months. Plus, when living story was only a one man job, I could understand the flaws. Now there are multiples teams working on it, and it’s still the same thing. So if your standards are low, and you are willing to spend your money on stuff that never improve, be my guest. But don’t project that on other people
I might not have been clear enough, sorry for that. I’m not talking about standard of quality and acceptance of errors. I’m talking about civility and informed opinions.
It’s alright for you to see those problems as unacceptable (for some, I totally agree). But it isn’t alright at all to insult peoples. Even more on ground you don’t know much, if anything, about.
Not you in particular of course, it is a general statement
TL;DR: software development is a stupid, stupid world. Horrible things happens all the time. Sometime because of bad developer, sometime because of bad managers, sometime because of bad specs or testing. More often a mix of all. Result is a faulty product, and being mad is ok. Insulting some people we don’t know anything about because “they probably are the cause” isn’t. Voice your disagreement, but keep it civil.
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