Guild Wars 2

Azaruil.3406:

Aeros.2046:

Listen to this man. BP picked up so many tricks and strategies from Ehmry Bay during our long slog with them. Last night we were using everything we had learned. This your chance to see those same tricks and in turn use em on someone else.

Tricks? You mean like bring a 25-man to fight a 12-man and when they’re losing, have another 25-man flank that 12-man? Yeah, good tricks. How about this, come out on your own and let me gang bang you with 3 friends and then you can “learn tricks” too.

We learned a lot more than that my good sir.

Azaruil.3406:

Aeros.2046:

Listen to this man. BP picked up so many tricks and strategies from Ehmry Bay during our long slog with them. Last night we were using everything we had learned. This your chance to see those same tricks and in turn use em on someone else.

Tricks? You mean like bring a 25-man to fight a 12-man and when they’re losing, have another 25-man flank that 12-man? Yeah, good tricks. How about this, come out on your own and let me gang bang you with 3 friends and then you can “learn tricks” too.

I haven’t laughed that hard in a very long time. I wanted to thank you for that comment because that’s exactly how I feel.

You’ve got some talent BP, it’s just buried underneath your massive zergs. It’s hard to identify what tricks you’ve learned, when its just steamrolling.

There’s probably more going on between your commanders and in your VOIP’s, less pugs. More coordinated guilds. Just can’t see it passed the sea of red.

Neeho.3859:

We fell from t4 to t6; we faceplanted to t7 when a few of the larger guilds decided to quit for a week to throw the game. I don’t think HoD has the quitters that we have. All their quitters were nice enough to leave the server; ours are still here.

Cause SoCo has done so much to help the server in the last 6 months. Every attempt to work with SoCo in order to get the server more coordinated has been met with constant complaining and disinterest. And then you come on the forums and bring up events that happened months ago, that weren’t even true when you argued about it then, for what purpose? So you can try and alienated yourself even further from the core of DR? I have no idea what your guild stands for and why it is even still on this server after months and months of negativity on the part of DR and those who have worked to make it better.

sigh there’s only so much QQ I can take.. DUDES, you guys need to stop complaining that BP only zergs and whatever crap your whining about numbers… Because guess what… WELCOME TO WVW! If everyone ran around in puny 5 man groups what the heck would you accomplish? WvW has zergs, live with it, you cant get too much done without one, you shouldn’t say that the only thing a server does is zerg and just throw numbers at an objective, because THATS PART OF THE GAME. If you so urgently crave for small man fights either go play some spvp or set up fight clubs.

Jesus, I’m sorry BP for all this nonsense your getting, it’s kittened

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Neeho.3859:

We fell from t4 to t6; we faceplanted to t7 when a few of the larger guilds decided to quit for a week to throw the game. I don’t think HoD has the quitters that we have. All their quitters were nice enough to leave the server; ours are still here.

Cause SoCo has done so much to help the server in the last 6 months. Every attempt to work with SoCo in order to get the server more coordinated has been met with constant complaining and disinterest. And then you come on the forums and bring up events that happened months ago, that weren’t even true when you argued about it then, for what purpose? So you can try and alienated yourself even further from the core of DR? I have no idea what your guild stands for and why it is even still on this server after months and months of negativity on the part of DR and those who have worked to make it better.

Well hello there. I have been a part of all those meetings back in the day when you guys were trying to get something going and we helped. We promoted the server’s ts server and the server’s website page. We helped and helped and helped. We always came running when someone needed help whether it was with the big server alliance or one of the smaller ones. We always made our opinions clear but we always worked for the better of the server even if we disagreed. We were always on board with wherever you wanted to send us on reset night. Finally after all the kitten stroking in those meetings and SoCos leaders, myself included, being called a kitten because we stood by what we believed in, (i.e., not throwing matches and not leaving the server, promoting upgrading and superior seige, defense and server unity like in daoc, and promoting numbers doesn’t necessarily mean winning) we decided to leave the big alliance and joined a smaller one with smaller guilds. We also stated we would help anyone who needs it which we have done but with smaller numbers in the last 6 weeks.

A lot of us have come back to the game and continue to love DR but we are still a small guild who now play to have fun and we enjoy the game again. We will never believe in throwing a match, sorry if that doesn’t suit you. We will continue to be outspoken and say what we feel because this is our server too and we have been here since Day #2.

You are right there are people who do not like us because we speak out against crap when it is wrong but there are also people who like us for the same reason. We are not trying to win a popularity contest, we are here to have fun with our friends and help the server as much as possible. We do not all have to be in one alliance to accomplish this. We will stick with our smaller alliance who have similar playstyles to us and continue to play with everyone. You are more than welcome to accept that or don’t but either way you are not going to try to bully us into your alliance like you have witih so many others. We dont need any kitten stroking. I find it astonishing and a little sad that you think our small guild has such an impact on your game play.

You said you didnt know what our guild stands for well here it is from an earlier post. See ya out there, please feel free to contact me here or on ts if you would like to discuss this any further.

Neeho.3859:

As far as I am concerned, [SoCo] is the best guild out there, period. It’s not because we never lose fights; we /release more than you guys do fighting the same guilds. It’s not because of our notoriety; I’m sure there are plenty of enemy guilds who aren’t familiar with the tag (probably more that don;t than do). It’s not because we blindly support the guilds on the server; just ask the DR Alliance.

We are the best guild out there because these are the people I play with daily. They know my kids names, I know their kids names, girlfriends, wives, birthdays, been across the country to visit with people I have only known from pictures and teamspeak. With the exception of an intolerance for cheating, I could give a good godkitten what others think about me or my guild. Our actions on the field (and in chat) are where our reputation is made. Like us or not, it does not matter to me. Why would I let someone else’s opinion of my friends and I add stress to a GAME? It’s supposed to be fun. Enjoy it with your friends.

Perhaps you’re putting too much stock in what others think of you and your group. It’s an added stress that just isn’t needed. I’ve watched most of your guys videos, fought alongside you (you probably rezzed me many times), and seen enemies pause when they see your tags pop up. Does it matter if they say you had more when you didn’t, or when you wipe 30 with a group of 10 and they have nothing but excuses?

If you didn’t have a video, you wouldn’t remember a month from now which guild said you had more numbers, which you beat 7v15, or which had the most excuses, but you will remember having a good time with your friends. And if that is why we are here, why does any of the other kitten matter?

I dont give a rat spit about the numbers… it is what it is… stop preaching at me like I dont know what the higher tiers are like. wasnt that long ago that we were fighting Ebay and BP.

If anyone wants to do some 2v2’s come to HoDBL within the next 15min

Cheers!

I hope all HoD takes this as a learning experience. Its been great to not see the same guilds we used to see everyday. T8 was to boring, Anet maybe doing something people don’t agree with but the new people I get to annoyingly backstab has been fun And If I haven’t charged your zerged yet, just wait. I’m coming for you.

irishhaf.1692:

Has BP gone dense with all the meta zerging… you have not seen a single blessed thing we havent experienced… nothing not a thing..

This is somewhat true, our server has a MASSIVE pug following who a large percentage of are fairweathers, and the skies are looking rather clear right now so you can guess what’s going on.

I’ve seen more commanders and players in WvW that I’ve never encountered ever in all my time on this server(since my guild left Sanctum of Rall on Halloween). And yes, Henge has seen more than any of these servers since they have been in every tier, whereas Borlis and Devona have not gone any higher than T5.

Still, do what ya can, without driving yourself crazy over it cause it ain’t worth that!

I just wanted to say I enjoyed seeing NoQQ and AD out in BP borderlands tonight. I remember you guys from when you were in Tier 5 and you are still hell to fight. Hopefully my guildies will log on before the week is up so we can have have some fun. /Salute

Does my signature work?

Colbey.4258:

Does my signature work?

Maybe.

Had some awesome fights in HOD BL and EB tonight!
Would’ve stayed longer but we had guild missions :P
Looking forward to a awesome week with BP and DR!

Fun GVG tonight, DDLG Vs WFD. Only our second organized GvG and it was a blast. Thank you to all you WFD guys for making it happen, we look forward to future fights/GvG’s with you.

When is the fight club going to start?

Great GvG tonight. Sat on the side lines, took a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21ylHCMqNI

Colbey.4258:

I just wanted to say I enjoyed seeing NoQQ and AD out in BP borderlands tonight. I remember you guys from when you were in Tier 5 and you are still hell to fight. Hopefully my guildies will log on before the week is up so we can have have some fun. /Salute

You are the guardian that got chain pulled back from the tower three times but still got away? Good stuff. We had a pretty good laugh at our fail there.

PartyInMyPants.9813:

Great GvG tonight. Sat on the side lines, took a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21ylHCMqNI

That portal juke on the third fight was perfectly executed. Grats on that.

There is definitely an imbalance with numbers, and without numbers you are just going to get steamrolled no matter how skilled your player base is. You might have some good battles but ultimately you won’t win the war because you just can’t field enough people to keep control of points you have taken. Or, hell, even break out of your spawn point for that matter.

With the lower tier servers it’s now painfully evident how imbalanced the system is.

Just gaining rating even tho you’re not accomplishing anything on the map is not fun. If I wanted to just play a numbers game I’d break out the board games and turn off the computer. I want to win a battle, kill things, and gain territory to go up in rank. Gain something tangible. Sitting at your spawn point being murdered because you’re outmanned 100v1 is not fun…even if you are gaining rank while you do it. That’s not a real testament to skill.

If there was some sort of population control so it evens out the playing field when you try to enter a BL or EB.

The cap could be based on the lowest population server on that particular map set up in mb 20 player increments or percentage based. So if the lowest # a server can field in Eb is say 70, the other 2 servers can’t field more than a low% more than that each. For the BL’s it would be based on the home servers population. So if you can only get in 30 people in your own bl then the enemy can’t have more than that, but if you go into enemy territory you’re at the mercy of their #’s. Home court advantage.

I think you would really start seeing skilled fights and not just a mindless hack and slash because the server you’re up against can field 30x your #‘s. I really don’t mind losing a fair fight, but c’mon anet, even the 300 died in the end to greater numbers.

Oozo.7856:

PartyInMyPants.9813:

Great GvG tonight. Sat on the side lines, took a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21ylHCMqNI

That portal juke on the third fight was perfectly executed. Grats on that.

Yeah haha, I think it surprised all of us how well that worked. xD
There was some speculation by the opposing guild that we had more than 20 people, I’d just like to point out that on the third fight we used 1 portal for that feint, and got everyone through it. You can only portal 20 people per portal so we had to have even numbers. Just thought id point that out.

I mean, people should really stop complaining about numbers. BP will obviously win, and since HoD and DR seem quite balanced BP will decide who takes second too (not intentionally).

Tots.3056:

Yeah haha, I think it surprised all of us how well that worked. xD
There was some speculation by the opposing guild that we had more than 20 people, I’d just like to point out that on the third fight we used 1 portal for that feint, and got everyone through it. You can only portal 20 people per portal so we had to have even numbers. Just thought id point that out.

Technically I count for 5 people though, so I can see where the misunderstandings would arise from.

Gab Superstar.4059:

I mean, people should really stop complaining about numbers. BP will obviously win, and since HoD and DR seem quite balanced BP will decide who takes second too (not intentionally).

Tots.3056:

Yeah haha, I think it surprised all of us how well that worked. xD
There was some speculation by the opposing guild that we had more than 20 people, I’d just like to point out that on the third fight we used 1 portal for that feint, and got everyone through it. You can only portal 20 people per portal so we had to have even numbers. Just thought id point that out.

Technically I count for 5 people though, so I can see where the misunderstandings would arise from.

The amount of guilds your in,
is too. kitten . High.

Mickey.8345:

There is definitely an imbalance with numbers, and without numbers you are just going to get steamrolled no matter how skilled your player base is. You might have some good battles but ultimately you won’t win the war because you just can’t field enough people to keep control of points you have taken. Or, hell, even break out of your spawn point for that matter.

With the lower tier servers it’s now painfully evident how imbalanced the system is.

Just gaining rating even tho you’re not accomplishing anything on the map is not fun. If I wanted to just play a numbers game I’d break out the board games and turn off the computer. I want to win a battle, kill things, and gain territory to go up in rank. Gain something tangible. Sitting at your spawn point being murdered because you’re outmanned 100v1 is not fun…even if you are gaining rank while you do it. That’s not a real testament to skill.

If there was some sort of population control so it evens out the playing field when you try to enter a BL or EB.

The cap could be based on the lowest population server on that particular map set up in mb 20 player increments or percentage based. So if the lowest # a server can field in Eb is say 70, the other 2 servers can’t field more than a low% more than that each. For the BL’s it would be based on the home servers population. So if you can only get in 30 people in your own bl then the enemy can’t have more than that, but if you go into enemy territory you’re at the mercy of their #’s. Home court advantage.

I think you would really start seeing skilled fights and not just a mindless hack and slash because the server you’re up against can field 30x your #‘s. I really don’t mind losing a fair fight, but c’mon anet, even the 300 died in the end to greater numbers.

Heaven forbid anyone try running without 20 people around them….that’s a new concept for the GW2 community. It’s shocking!

PartyInMyPants.9813:

Great GvG tonight. Sat on the side lines, took a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21ylHCMqNI

Very nice fights!

Hey Everyone,

I came to a T8 Server Not to Do Massive Zerging, If that’s What I wanted I would have Stayed on DB. I came to this tier so that I could enjoy the Small Group versus Small goup (5 each) and the 2 on 2 that happens a lot. Not I am forced to Join Huge Zergs in order to compete but Wait Most T8 Servers Don’t have the number of Players that the Higher tiers have So in Essence I have to endure getting steam rolled.

In closing I understand that This is supposed to be Fun, But When you have a T5 server Facing Much lesser Opponents Then their is no fun in that. So Anet Ty for the Idea but I personally am Considering Moving On If this does not Change. Like I said I paid Real Money to come to a T8 Server To get away from Massive Zergs and Here I am forced to do just that If I want to survive in WvW under the New Matchups. Just My Thoughts.

TwoCan Sam

I think people overuse the word “zerg”. Personally, I like big battles; that’s what I signed on for. If I wanted more gladiatorial-style combat I’d do sPvP. That said, this week is just ridiculous. DR had a tough time last week, getting forced down to third because IoJ decided to be a bunch of spiteful jerks (and we still almost got second). But this is even worse. Two servers are completely at the mercy of the third. And it’s not like we can even fight each other for second, as taking a tower or keep (if we have any) just makes it easier for BP to come in and occupy it.

This is what happens when BP tries to camp me

(if you’re confused about the last picture, I had killed them so much that they just waited at their spawn for me to leave — When I was killing them at the spawn, although they kept jumping down after dying while I was still on combat, I still farmed them until they stayed at the portal LOL)

PartyInMyPants.9813:

Great GvG tonight. Sat on the side lines, took a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21ylHCMqNI

Here is a PoV from inside the DDLG team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afQob1iDccw
The fights were fun, good fights WFD

Yes BP has 3x your numbers, but besides that fact, we have learned a lot from ehmry and our pugs are skilled. I understand its hard to tell when we steamroll you with double your numbers. When we have a Zerg of 50, you can bet that at least 40 of them are in teamspeak, when we have a Zerg of 80-90, we have at least 60-70 of hem in teamspeak. Teamspeak numbers is the first goal to coordination and to massive improvement in a server. Our server went from real puggy, to a very organized server in 1 month(how long we have had our ts) we are able to jump 50 people from say eternal to BP BL with 5-10 seconds before 10 golems hit a door if its spotted and said in our commander whsiper list. We can stop the Zerg on a dime and not have 80% of the Zerg run away chasing 5 people into a choke full of siege, when a door falls we can have 80% of the Zerg stay and wait for a port to pass the 15AC’s that DR places and not get slaughtered on the gate (don’t matter if ur 4:1, superior ac’s hurt hah)

I am not bragging, I am just explaining a little more in depth what the forum trolls can’t (they are not a representation of our server, were all quite polite and stuff, we actually don’t even have any major trolls anymore the last one went to ehmry)

I have yet to find a single BP that hasn’t ran from me 1v1. A shame zerg servers always win against organized servers.

btw this signet warrior is quite possibly the worst player I’ve ever come across in WvW, just to throw that in here lol

Elementalist Owner.7802:

This is what happens when BP tries to camp me

(if you’re confused about the last picture, I had killed them so much that they just waited at their spawn for me to leave — When I was killing them at the spawn, although they kept jumping down after dying while I was still on combat, I still farmed them until they stayed at the portal LOL)

Dude, farming pve players is a bit sad. Especially with your setup.
The video from above was great. This is sad.

Edit: Reading problems on my part. Didn’t see that they were camping you.
Sorry. <-Stupid.
Lion of the Wind
RgTg/SoCo

Dream In A Dream.7213:

Elementalist Owner.7802:

This is what happens when BP tries to camp me

(if you’re confused about the last picture, I had killed them so much that they just waited at their spawn for me to leave — When I was killing them at the spawn, although they kept jumping down after dying while I was still on combat, I still farmed them until they stayed at the portal LOL)

Dude, farming pve players is a bit sad. Especially with your setup.
The video from above was great. This is sad.

Lion of the Wind
RgTg/SoCo

Notice the “when BP tries to camp me”

DtC you spoke calmly and rationally I will try to do the same..

I prefer to defend and this is what I saw last night when you guys flipped DR garrison..

We had about 20 people defending against a down gate and about 20-25 BP, then BP had 15 or so people running around the map flipping all camps, then had another 15-20 come in through the water gate and flip the keep. should we have stayed aware yea… but we were finally pushing the first attack out and just missed it because we needed everybody in the fight.

Those 20 people were it for the map except for a couple people trying to flip camps back and getting steam rolled… co-ordination alone cannot fix that. mid tier or mid rating servers should not be facing servers near the bottom of the list, not yall’s fault but the fault of lazy coding.

HoD or DR what’s the deal with this golem? xD

DtC.4806:

Yes BP has 3x your numbers, but besides that fact, we have learned a lot from ehmry and our pugs are skilled. I understand its hard to tell when we steamroll you with double your numbers.

I have found quite the opposite; your pugs perform just as well as any zerg server, even when you have the numbers. Survived countless fights with necro/ele 2v2, 3v6(plus your guards), 2v3, 2v5; kept 25 stacks for longer than I have running as a duo/trio against greater numbers in a long time. And I’m not very good at all. Was surprised not to see any guild duos/trios/5 men out and about this morning, but had a fun run anyways.

Shout out to the mesmer that stomped the Female Grenade Engie near your spawn the other night in HoD BL, very well played.

To the pistol Engie camping dolys due east of our garrison, sorry we were interrupted, you fought very well, and most likely would have won. PM me in game if you want to duel sometime, I would really enjoy comparing notes.

Gonna try to hop off the QQ train about BP’s numbers, but you BP guys should also stop:

a. Pretending like you are the only server that has ever faced a FAR superior force for weeks at a time, I mean, come on.

As another poster said, you may, in fact, have far superior tactics, but we can’t tell due to the sheer volume of players and the frequency with which they run from fair fights. I have screen shots of that, so don’t pretend like you haven’t “tactically retreated” from fair fights when you couldn’t just steam roll us. (North HoD BL supply camp yesterday, for instance).

DtC.4806:

(were all quite polite and stuff, we actually don’t even have any major trolls anymore the last one went to ehmry)

Care to explain the 30-40 people from [BP] (3/4 of which had their commander tags on) who guested to HoD’s Lions Arch last night and trolled us/spammed map chat for a half hour?

FrozenHydra.7608:

DtC.4806:

(were all quite polite and stuff, we actually don’t even have any major trolls anymore the last one went to ehmry)

Care to explain the 30-40 people from [BP] (3/4 of which had their commander tags on) who guested to HoD’s Lions Arch last night and trolled us/spammed map chat for a half hour?

Lol, classy.

DtC.4806:

Yes BP has…

Dtc, you’re supposed to impress them in the field first and THEN answer questions they have, not give answers to unasked questions!
And we went from a real puggy server to a Power Pug server(yes there is such a thing as a power pug)!

DtC.4806:

Yes BP has 3x your numbers, but besides that fact, we have learned a lot from ehmry and our pugs are skilled. I understand its hard to tell when we steamroll you with double your numbers. When we have a Zerg of 50, you can bet that at least 40 of them are in teamspeak, when we have a Zerg of 80-90, we have at least 60-70 of hem in teamspeak. Teamspeak numbers is the first goal to coordination and to massive improvement in a server. Our server went from real puggy, to a very organized server in 1 month(how long we have had our ts) we are able to jump 50 people from say eternal to BP BL with 5-10 seconds before 10 golems hit a door if its spotted and said in our commander whsiper list. We can stop the Zerg on a dime and not have 80% of the Zerg run away chasing 5 people into a choke full of siege, when a door falls we can have 80% of the Zerg stay and wait for a port to pass the 15AC’s that DR places and not get slaughtered on the gate (don’t matter if ur 4:1, superior ac’s hurt hah)

I am not bragging, I am just explaining a little more in depth what the forum trolls can’t (they are not a representation of our server, were all quite polite and stuff, we actually don’t even have any major trolls anymore the last one went to ehmry)

Strategy can not and will not matter in the face of vastly superior numbers. You guys can talk out your kitten all you want about “how much you learned” and “how losing has taught you balh blah blah blah”. It’s all a bunch of bullkitten.
When you can field three groups of 20+ on a single map and we can only field one we will lose. That’s all there is to it. You can attack 3 places at once, and we can not defend them. We will have our supply whittled away because splitting our meager numbers is short term disaster, while keeping them together is a long term disaster, and the second, ugly, option is better.

Someone already pointed out the fight at DR garrison as an example. You guys ran a force through our west wall, which we engaged, had another full force at the NW tower, and ran a third through the water gate. We had maybe 18 defenders total.

Don’t get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fights (Especially spawn rushing the trebuchet for some reason), but please don’t come here trying to soothe your ego. You aren’t the good guys who’ve struggled against the oppressive yoke and can now break free and showcase your incredible talent and creativity. It’s like the Washington Generals playing against highschool teams and bragging that they won because of what they learned from the Globetrotters. It didn’t hurt, but that’s hardly the real reason.

MysticSquirrel.7180:

DtC.4806:

Yes BP has 3x your numbers, but besides that fact, we have learned a lot from ehmry and our pugs are skilled. I understand its hard to tell when we steamroll you with double your numbers. When we have a Zerg of 50, you can bet that at least 40 of them are in teamspeak, when we have a Zerg of 80-90, we have at least 60-70 of hem in teamspeak. Teamspeak numbers is the first goal to coordination and to massive improvement in a server. Our server went from real puggy, to a very organized server in 1 month(how long we have had our ts) we are able to jump 50 people from say eternal to BP BL with 5-10 seconds before 10 golems hit a door if its spotted and said in our commander whsiper list. We can stop the Zerg on a dime and not have 80% of the Zerg run away chasing 5 people into a choke full of siege, when a door falls we can have 80% of the Zerg stay and wait for a port to pass the 15AC’s that DR places and not get slaughtered on the gate (don’t matter if ur 4:1, superior ac’s hurt hah)

I am not bragging, I am just explaining a little more in depth what the forum trolls can’t (they are not a representation of our server, were all quite polite and stuff, we actually don’t even have any major trolls anymore the last one went to ehmry)

Someone already pointed out the fight at DR garrison as an example. You guys ran a force through our west wall, which we engaged, had another full force at the NW tower, and ran a third through the water gate. We had maybe 18 defenders total.

That was me that went through the watergate. 18 people is more than enough to defend a fully upgraded Garrison with 500+ supply. You had nobody scout the watergate, we made it to lords room then one person noticed us. You had A LOT of siege inside and just 3 people would have stopped our attack.

We were in your position 13 weeks in a row. What we did is improve.

Evilzara.6378:

We were in your position 13 weeks in a row. What we did is improve.

I wasn’t at DR garrison in this instance so I can’t really say anything (although I highly doubt BP could cap anything without 5:1 numbers), but I find this statement hilarious. If by improve you mean “get more numbers” this statement would be correct.

Whether you like it or not, BP is a zerg server. With your numbers you should easily be in tier 4, if not tier 3, but you are left in tier 5 due to your lack of skill and tactics. Just another IoJ here everybody, nothing more to see.

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That was me that went through the watergate. 18 people is more than enough to defend a fully upgraded Garrison with 500+ supply. You had nobody scout the watergate, we made it to lords room then one person noticed us. You had A LOT of siege inside and just 3 people would have stopped our attack.

We were in your position 13 weeks in a row. What we did is improve. [/quote]

Did you ever beat Ebay? Again, you can stand here and talk about how much you’ve improved when playing servers with lower populations, the real test, the one that you guys can save all your bravado for is when you actually play an equal server.

Should we have scouted garrison better? Absolutely. However, that doesn’t change the fact that you had groups, each bigger than our entire force, at three seperate locations. If we’d defended the watergate, the west gate would’ve gone down. If we stopped you from placing rams, you could easily have catas or trebs up on both doors. Then what? We can’t push out to get them, not against superior numbers on two fronts.
All the while, your third group would’ve taken our last two towers.

Show me, with your incredible Ebay granted wisdom, that DR apparently didn’t get while fighting against them for weeks, how you would take your tiny, tiny force and beat attacks from multiple points by three larger forces with minimal supplies and nowhere to go in the current game system?

AC’s are not god mode. They can be beaten, they can be destroyed, and , thankfully, I haven’t seen anyone on DR cheesing the resolution bullkitten, so they still have slight restrictions.

I will reiterate, you are not winning because of your tactics or strategy. You are winning because of numbers. Accept that, and move on. It isn’t a slight, or a knock, or a condemnation. It simply is. Just please, stop claiming it’s otherwise.

Why must match-up threads always become so negative?

BP – Please embrace the truth; we are winning because of our numbers. Did we learn some things from EBay and start using TS more widely? Sure, a few. But the number imbalance with EBay was nowhere near what it is here, where we’d still be winning by a landslide without any use of strategy. Any discussions to the contrary are a moot point and only serve to antagonize HoD/DR

HoD / DR – I am sorry that you got stuck with us this week, but please don’t forget that this cuts both ways. While BP does have some groups that attempt to behave in a skilled, force-multiplying fashion, ours for one has been pretty much inactive since reset because we end up spending more time looking for like-sized groups to fight than we do actually fighting. We’ve been replaced by a legion of fair-weathers. Please don’t caricature our entire server based upon this limited sampling.

To everyone, let’s just stick it out and get through the week. I can’t make any promises for the next since it’s all a roll of the die, but try and find enjoyment where you can and don’t get burned out. That doesn’t do anyone any good!

LAD Infinitum.1675:

Why must match-up threads always become so negative?

BP – Please embrace the truth; we are winning because of our numbers. Did we learn some things from EBay and start using TS more widely? Sure, a few. But we’d still be winning by a landslide without it. Any discussions to the contrary are a moot point and only serve to antagonize HoD/DR

HoD / DR – I am sorry that you got stuck with us this week. Don’t forget this cuts both ways. Our group has been pretty much inactive since reset because we end up spending more time looking for like-sized groups to fight than we do actually fighting.

Stick it out and get through the week. I can’t make any promises for the next since it’s all a roll of the die, but try and find enjoyment where you can and don’t get burned out.

We will do our level best. Thanks for the positive post.

My apologies for being negative. Woke up in a nasty mood. It’s not that WvW hasn’t been fun this week, there’s just a little sense of hopelessness when the outcome has already been decided.
Anyways, I’ll be out there, ready to be stabbed in the face.

BP I am ashamed that you would break off from a 50 man zerg in EB just to kill a baby quaggan. Not once, but twice!

DR is cool in my books, wasn’t hit once and a few joined me as well :-)

Anyone want to do some 1v1s? I will be behind the HoD windmill

Jaaded.1870:

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I find it sad that you decided to fight Neeho’s battle for him, and also write an inappropriate wall of text regarding SoCo vs DR, something that doesn’t belong in this thread, hence my response to Neeho’s original post being so negative. Learn the place and time to say things, a matchup thread with two servers that have nothing to do with DR is not the place to complain about internal relations on DR.