Guild Wars 2

Plains of Ashes.5941:

Solstice.1097:

its silly we have to beat GoM both times we play them just to end up tied with them for 4th. GoM has 4 easy weeks while FC has 1.

then if DH beats SF then they are 1-1 to each other, yet DH gets 2nd place because they only played HoD once instead of twice like SF.

the schedule is soooo lame. looking forward this season being over.

I agree, the schedules were very lame. Im hard pressed to believe any thought at all was given to them by an even mildly educated adult. The fact that silver and bronze got their week 7 as a copy-paste of week 1 seems to show that anet loses interest quickly in anything other than T1.

hopefully we go to a 4-league season format that way we can all run a solid identical 6-server schedules and the non-gold league dosent get the afterthought schedule.

I will give lots of credit to SF. they spent 2 weeks with us and got savaged, and after the first week their fairweathers ran screaming for the (kessex) hills. But their core WvWers kept turning out and they were noticeably better by the end of the 2 weeks. When HoD is gone, SF wants that top-dog slot. And I know AR, DH, and Kain want it too if they could get a little transfer love. I sometimes get the impression that FC just prefers to wallow in their T8-ness.

Considering the notion that GoM was originally picked not to finish any better than 7th place, being in 4th place with FC and more than likely a lock to tie with FC for 4th at the end of next week, we did pretty good to silence the doubters.

Predicting the last week and tallying up the points, I see it all panning out as such…

HoD – 1st – 35 points
SF – 2nd – 31 points
DH – 3rd – 29 points
FC – 4th – 23 points
GoM – 4th – 23 points
AR – 6th – 15 points
Kai – 7th – 13 points
DR – 8th – 11 points
ET – 9th – 9 points

That group is so obviously made up of GOM PVE-ers trying to get the achievement.

yes, its sad. No, they don’t fight or do anything useful.

I saw a similar guild zerg matched up across from an FC zerg earlier in the week just flipping a single control point back and forth. Locked us out of the map when things started flipping.

The achievements have been sort of a double edged sword for GoM. We got some people who came out because of them and realized that WvW can be a fun place to be, and we got, well….that. Im sure its the same on all servers.

Solstice.1097:

its silly we have to beat GoM both times we play them just to end up tied with them for 4th. GoM has 4 easy weeks while FC has 1.

then if DH beats SF then they are 1-1 to each other, yet DH gets 2nd place because they only played HoD once instead of twice like SF.

the schedule is soooo lame. looking forward this season being over.

Hm, I didn’t think about that but that is a fair point. If you beat us twice, how come we finish tied? Doesn’t really make much sense.

Either way, unless the rewards are drastically different, you probably don’t lose out on anything. You guys will have shown you can beat us and whatever lame ranking ArenaNet has at the end isn’t gonna change that (like the Glicko rating never gave an accurate list of where the servers stand).

Since the league was kind of a breath of fresh air gettin our PvE and WvW players to integrate more, I am glad for it still (of course the downside was all the guilds that transferred due to the league but we were pretty much out of WvW guilds to transfer off).

styx.7294:

Solstice.1097:

its silly we have to beat GoM both times we play them just to end up tied with them for 4th. GoM has 4 easy weeks while FC has 1.

then if DH beats SF then they are 1-1 to each other, yet DH gets 2nd place because they only played HoD once instead of twice like SF.

the schedule is soooo lame. looking forward this season being over.

Hm, I didn’t think about that but that is a fair point. If you beat us twice, how come we finish tied? Doesn’t really make much sense.

Either way, unless the rewards are drastically different, you probably don’t lose out on anything. You guys will have shown you can beat us and whatever lame ranking ArenaNet has at the end isn’t gonna change that (like the Glicko rating never gave an accurate list of where the servers stand).

Since the league was kind of a breath of fresh air gettin our PvE and WvW players to integrate more, I am glad for it still (of course the downside was all the guilds that transferred due to the league but we were pretty much out of WvW guilds to transfer off).

this was just a response to the question who is going to win DH or SF? And it should be a good fight but as far as place in the league who gives a kitten? Even if DH wins they shouldn’t get 2nd place over SF they should be tied. The actual rankings are bogus so lets just play wvw like always and forget placements.

If anything its a bad thing because FC and GoM fighting over 2nd place instead of trying to take down HoD is exactly opposite of how the mentality of WvW should go. Just my 2 cents.

kitten, GG at FC Valley just now.

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

alenaoreo.5206:

kitten, GG at FC Valley just now.

GG, I definitely needed a drink after that fight lol

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

Makes sense to me.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

I take it back. You never would have figured it out. You just wanna kitten with your guild.

Some of you from GoM should come on HoD for a week. Not only will we teach you how to WvW, we’ll teach you how to troll properly on the forums.

lol gg to ellie of peaches [wz] again; good 20 minute 1v1

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

Look who is being quoted on my comment before you respond. Wasn’t talking to you. You guys won’t let go of this “Silver Dodger” thing, you would’ve been spanked by NSP just as bad and been saying the same thing.

Stop your pointless QQ it’s getting quite old.

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

Believe it or not, there’s players out there that are quite terrified of PvP environments. Having experienced players there to escort them through ruin caps or jumping puzzles not only allows them to finish their achievements, but might actually give them enough courage to stick around and give this WvW thing a shot.

I’ve heard [MU] did a great job in teaching casual HoD WvWers how to get organized. That’s why I’m a little surprised you don’t seem to appreciate that we try to do the same for our PvEers.

jinx.8169:

Some of you from GoM should come on HoD for a week. Not only will we teach you how to WvW, we’ll teach you how to troll properly on the forums.

Despite how often I end up talking to trolls, I’m not looking to troll anyone. I do try to make sure this game is fun for everyone.

MU doesn’t have anything to teach.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

Believe it or not, there’s players out there that are quite terrified of PvP environments. Having experienced players there to escort them through ruin caps or jumping puzzles not only allows them to finish their achievements, but might actually give them enough courage to stick around and give this WvW thing a shot.

I’ve heard [MU] did a great job in teaching casual HoD WvWers how to get organized. That’s why I’m a little surprised you don’t seem to appreciate that we try to do the same for our PvEers.

I had nothing bad to say about that scenario was just responding to your buddy’s pointless addition to the conversation.

As for MU has nothing to teach GoM, we could teach you to finally stop kitten complaining about numbers and your smaller groups organized to wipe the mystical “HoD Tier 1 Blob”.

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

@jinx.8169: Oh yeah, we could do some griefing, I heard your server approves of that, and justifies it on the official forums. No? Oh ok, now I understand, it was just pre-league to lower your ranking and dodge Silver league, in a big organized server-wide effort… It all makes sense now. Sun Tsu approves of your actions, as does god, I know I know no need to explain it again.

Thanks but no thanks. I will stay on GoM.

PS: The ‘Public Relations Officer’ in your sig. is the funniest part of your post.

Yo GoMie and FoCaccia guys come to the new arena, plenty of guys to duel!

styx.7294:

Solstice.1097:

its silly we have to beat GoM both times we play them just to end up tied with them for 4th. GoM has 4 easy weeks while FC has 1.

then if DH beats SF then they are 1-1 to each other, yet DH gets 2nd place because they only played HoD once instead of twice like SF.

the schedule is soooo lame. looking forward this season being over.

Hm, I didn’t think about that but that is a fair point. If you beat us twice, how come we finish tied? Doesn’t really make much sense.

Either way, unless the rewards are drastically different, you probably don’t lose out on anything. You guys will have shown you can beat us and whatever lame ranking ArenaNet has at the end isn’t gonna change that (like the Glicko rating never gave an accurate list of where the servers stand).

Since the league was kind of a breath of fresh air gettin our PvE and WvW players to integrate more, I am glad for it still (of course the downside was all the guilds that transferred due to the league but we were pretty much out of WvW guilds to transfer off).

We won’t finish tied, because GOM will know and FC will know who the real 4th place server is and who isn’t. Beyond that it is irrelevant, because it will all change and be erased in a few weeks.

Shiver.5903:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

@jinx.8169: Oh yeah, we could do some griefing, I heard your server approves of that, and justifies it on the official forums. No? Oh ok, now I understand, it was just pre-league to lower your ranking and dodge Silver league, in a big organized server-wide effort… It all makes sense now. Sun Tsu approves of your actions, as does god, I know I know no need to explain it again.

Thanks but no thanks. I will stay on GoM.

PS: The ‘Public Relations Officer’ in your sig. is the funniest part of your post.

Let’s go over some points that have been made countless times:

1) MU is from TC and didn’t transfer until after seasons started. Therefore, they get TC’s reward and weren’t part of this supposed “tanking”. This arguement is invalid.

2) the signature is a joke, which seems like the thing you and deth have in common, is that you cannot take on.

3)You would of been stomped even harder if NSP was here. Judging from performances HoD, NSP, and IoJ don’t belong in Bronze but dalso do not belong in silver.

4) We did not make the leagues so stop blaming us for them.

Shiver.5903:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

@jinx.8169: Oh yeah, we could do some griefing, I heard your server approves of that, and justifies it on the official forums. No? Oh ok, now I understand, it was just pre-league to lower your ranking and dodge Silver league, in a big organized server-wide effort… It all makes sense now. Sun Tsu approves of your actions, as does god, I know I know no need to explain it again.

Thanks but no thanks. I will stay on GoM.

PS: The ‘Public Relations Officer’ in your sig. is the funniest part of your post.

Hi. You must be new here. Please come back when you actually know what is going on. Have a nice day.

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Rofl, that’s probably why they were laughing (wasn’t there, though, so don’t know for sure what was going on). We do crazy things sometimes… it’s madness, I tell you! Madness!!!

Oh noes, friction and sarcastic body movements. Put up or shut up. GvG us.

capmasterflash.5690:

I like you guys GoM. As if I have found in the last few weeks, one or two qqing forum warriors (styx) are not representative of the entire server. I wish someone from one of your good guilds would step up and tell Styx to stop making everyone else look bad.

I’ll step up and tell you to back off, Styx is a great player.

As for the teaching, you probably can teach us how to tank, or look bad and full of ourselves on the forums, but I guess we don’t want that.

To sum it up, it feels about time you take your novice-trolls, your advice, your tanking-legacy and your coverage to Silver League.

Have a good day,

PS: For people trying to teach forum-trolling, you bite a bait pretty kitten hard guys, my line almost snapped. But please, keep at it.

jinx.8169:

Oh noes, friction and sarcastic body movements. Put up or shut up. GvG us.

Your guild fields 20+, mine fielded 6 last reset night, including some people we recruited with less than 1k achievement points. You want to GvG us because of something said on the forum?

I think I will just shut up.

Shiver.5903:

capmasterflash.5690:

I like you guys GoM. As if I have found in the last few weeks, one or two qqing forum warriors (styx) are not representative of the entire server. I wish someone from one of your good guilds would step up and tell Styx to stop making everyone else look bad.

I’ll step up and tell you to back off, Styx is a great player.

As for the teaching, you probably can teach us how to tank, or look bad and full of ourselves on the forums, but I guess we don’t want that.

To sum it up, it feels about time you take your novice-trolls, your advice, your tanking-legacy and your coverage to Silver League.

Have a good day,

PS: For people trying to teach forum-trolling, you bite a bait pretty kitten hard guys, my line almost snapped. But please, keep at it.

Let’s go over some points that have been made countless times:
1) MU is from TC and didn’t transfer until after seasons started. Therefore, they get TC’s reward and weren’t part of this supposed “tanking”. This arguement is invalid.

2) the signature is a joke, which seems like the thing you and deth have in common, is that you cannot take on.

3)You would of been stomped even harder if NSP was here. Judging from performances HoD, NSP, and IoJ don’t belong in Bronze but dalso do not belong in silver.

4) We did not make the leagues so stop blaming us for them.

“I’ll step up and tell you to back off, Styx is a great player.” You Tell’em

Thanks for the repost Back “Broken Record” Stabbed, I didn’t see your post the first time, maybe it was somewhat lackluster.

Also take good note not every statement is directed at MU. I know it might be surprising but sometimes, when people talk about HoD as a server, they actually talk about… HoD, as a server. You know, HoD, the server… nicknamed “The Tank”, also “Silver-Dodger”… rings a bell?

I know you are close to the sun, but you are not the sun. Or are you?
Food for thought.

Thought about it. Verdict: Dumb

Styx, I don’t care how long you’ve been acting like a tool on the forums for. You’re not impressive. You came out the door qqing and you haven’t stopped. MU is allowed to use the forums too right? It’s not just an elite 6-man guild thing is it?

As for being a good player, I’ve noticed that other players will flock to good players. 6 people on reset night? Speaks for itself.

Odies.8017:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

Look who is being quoted on my comment before you respond. Wasn’t talking to you. You guys won’t let go of this “Silver Dodger” thing, you would’ve been spanked by NSP just as bad and been saying the same thing.

Stop your pointless QQ it’s getting quite old.

So then, if you’re not dodging the Silvers but have the numbers for them, are you not simply saying HoD just sucks and can’t defeat servers with equal numbers?

Shiver.5903:

Oh ok, now I understand, it was just pre-league to lower your ranking and dodge Silver league, in a big organized server-wide effort… .

Get your facts right. There were murmurings about tanking and a handful did decide to stay in PvE, but the majority of HoD was still in WvW, fighting an uphill battle against servers 8ranks above them. You can’t keep HoD out of WvW, it’s a large part of why some of us still play this game. I was there in the last few weeks leading up to the league season, and can honestly say our population at the time did not drop much. It’s only when the leagues started that our PvErs came out to get their metas done, and that really appeared to boost our crowd.

Shiver.5903:

Thanks for the repost Back “Broken Record” Stabbed, I didn’t see your post the first time, maybe it was somewhat lackluster.

Also take good note not every statement is directed at MU. I know it might be surprising but sometimes, when people talk about HoD as a server, they actually talk about… HoD, as a server. You know, HoD, the server… nicknamed “The Tank”, also “Silver-Dodger”… rings a bell?

I know you are close to the sun, but you are not the sun. Or are you?
Food for thought.

Then when you post, just post, don’t reply to an MU member. L2Post bro.

Shiver.5903:

Thanks for the repost Back “Broken Record” Stabbed, I didn’t see your post the first time, maybe it was somewhat lackluster.

Also take good note not every statement is directed at MU. I know it might be surprising but sometimes, when people talk about HoD as a server, they actually talk about… HoD, as a server. You know, HoD, the server… nicknamed “The Tank”, also “Silver-Dodger”… rings a bell?

I know you are close to the sun, but you are not the sun. Or are you?
Food for thought.

It’s quite alright Forever Bronze, You’re forgiven. I do find it funny though, [MU] fields 16-23 but can wipe 30+ GoM/FC groups fairly easily.That might be something to look into, Food for thought.

PS: I think that was the whole point of HoD teaching you something.

MU, you try to come off all nice, but you have effectively kitten ed off every single server in bronze league due to your backhanded comments, your elitist point of views and your large egos. So you wonder why we don’t like you here? Not even [IoM] from ET was able to do that.

We will call you Silver League Dodgers all we want. We’d be calling NSP the same thing if they were here instead of you because no server should ever let that slide and should never forget it.

You crossed a line you should have never crossed. You NEVER make fun or troll our relationship with our PvE community. We’ll fall on our own swords if it means they had a fun time. If that means showing them around WvW maps so they get achievement, so be it. If they need help we DO NOT abandon them on GoM. So back off them.

The QQ ing is getting a bit much. I have been on HoD since the beginning, I missed the downward fall as I did not start in WvW until we were close to rock bottom, a couple months after the game released, but I have been here scratching and clawing to help HoD move back upwards since. When Kaineng made their rapid move to the top it was all we could do to hold on to our northern camp but boy did we fight for control of that camp.

Prior to the season start when we were supposedly “tanking” I was still in there fighting and so were the rest of the old guard. So pardon me if I resent the insinuation that the whole server tanked as much as GoM and FC would resent the fact if I blanket labelled everyone on their servers crybabies and not just the ones crying here.

So suck it up Princesses and deal with it.

QuickLime.7253:

MU, you try to come off all nice, but you have effectively kitten ed off every single server in bronze league due to your backhanded comments, your elitist point of views and your large egos. So you wonder why we don’t like you here? Not even [IoM] from ET was able to do that.

We will call you Silver League Dodgers all we want. We’d be calling NSP the same thing if they were here instead of you because no server should ever let that slide and should never forget it.

You crossed a line you should have never crossed. You NEVER make fun or troll our relationship with our PvE community. We’ll fall on our own swords if it means they had a fun time. If that means showing them around WvW maps so they get achievement, so be it. If they need help we DO NOT abandon them on GoM. So back off them.

Let’s go over some points that have been made countless times:

1) MU is from TC and didn’t transfer until after seasons started. Therefore, they get TC’s reward and weren’t part of this supposed “tanking”. This argument is invalid.

2) the signature is a joke, which seems like the thing you and deth have in common, is that you cannot take on.

3)You would of been stomped even harder if NSP was here. Judging from performances HoD, NSP, and IoJ don’t belong in Bronze but also do not belong in silver.

4) We did not make the leagues so stop blaming us for them.

Please show me where we made fun of PvEr’s.

Brick Tamland.6507:

1) MU is from TC and didn’t transfer until after seasons started. Therefore, they get TC’s reward and weren’t part of this supposed “tanking”. This argument is invalid.

Please show me where we made fun of PvEr’s.

Well, you are on HoD now so you share the blame. Congrats.

Yikes. This thread is heading down kindergarten- land. Take a lolli and cool down.

A few of you HoD’ers are gloating and calling people crybabies for pointing out the league flaws. Yea, you are on the lucky end of a system none of us created, congrats.

I felt it would be appropriate to share some HOD quotes from matches prior to leagues when they were losing (Most of these are from the same people calling us crybabies in this thread)

“i hope u guys like to pve because we are not even gonna bother capping thouse wps. happy pve week! ty for the bronze keep crushing us”

“Decided to hop into WvW tonight but after seeing people say stuff like ‘’idk why we’re trying so hard to cap towers and camps’’, how bad of a position will I be in when leagues roll around? That quote was actually said during WvW tonight and it got me thinking. Just how bad will it be for HoD? Ideally i’d like to transfer before other servers potentially fill up, if of course, that’s the case.”

“Kaineng and HoD aren’t even gonna show their faces in there in fear of getting put into silver league.
Kaineng you guys better lose harder, or go ahead and begin looking for a server to transfer to.”

“- The guy who doesn’t want to be in silver league”

“Hopefully ArenaNet will physically take a look at each server after this first season and literally hand pick certain servers to participate in certain brackets. Much more competitive and fair brackets.”

“GOD kittenING kitten IT ANET”

“3 weeks in a row. CD-IoJ-YB.
Come on. Jesus Christ.”

“Seems like maybe HoD got singled out as the server in the barrel, once again, on reset night.
Gonna be an amazing, totally fair week.”

“Soooooooooooooooooooo
Friday yet?”

“NO ONE CARES if u guys win or not NO ONE WILL DEFEND so dont even bother the moment we see a 60 man zerg we just wait untill u all are bored and gone and we take the sthit back no one even cares!”

“kitten these matchups”

You know who you are

and that was BEFORE [MU] showed up on HOD.

i have a stockpile of popcorn and a raincoat for when HOD faces their next real challenge.

gg

Solstice.1097:

and that was BEFORE [MU] showed up on HOD.

i have a stockpile of popcorn and a raincoat for when HOD faces their next real challenge.

gg

So, 5 people change HoD tears into Hod cheers? 5 people that are [MU] came from TC, pretty sure [MU] consist’s of more than 5 people. The majority of [MU] are HoD natives. I don’t think I and four others changed the tide of HoD. HoD pulled HoD up, no one else.

QuickLime.7253:

Brick Tamland.6507:

1) MU is from TC and didn’t transfer until after seasons started. Therefore, they get TC’s reward and weren’t part of this supposed “tanking”. This argument is invalid.

Please show me where we made fun of PvEr’s.

Well, you are on HoD now so you share the blame. Congrats.

Still have made empty accusations. Congrats. Please show me where we made fun of PvEr’s. You really were just trying to make yourself look all macho, savior of the PvEr’s.

Solstice.1097:

A few of you HoD’ers are gloating and calling people crybabies for pointing out the league flaws. Yea, you are on the lucky end of a system none of us created, congrats.

I felt it would be appropriate to share some HOD quotes from matches prior to leagues when they were losing (Most of these are from the same people calling us crybabies in this thread)

According to your words “Yea, you are on the lucky end of a system none of us created, congrats.” we had nothing to do with it so what is your problem?

Here is one more you can add for the next time.

“Show us where the bad HoD touched you!”

And think about this carefully. Season 2 will not start until well into the new year. There will be a pile of changes between now and that point in time and HoD could very well end up in Bronze again. Scared yet?

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

Here. [MU]
Our PvE player’s are not stupid.

QuickLime.7253:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

Here. [MU]
Our PvE player’s are not stupid.

I didn’t call them or you stupid. I like GoM. I really enjoy playing against GoM esp when we were against SF together. We took to calling you our Gommie Bears. I was just surprised to see 50 of you capping a single ruin. The logic escapes me… but hey… its your fight against FC for 4th. Not mine. Good luck.

QuickLime.7253:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Odies.8017:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Righteous.4307:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jereme.1840:

Look the infamous HoD zerg.. err wait that’s GoM…

<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.

You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.

Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.

Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.

Already discussed….

apapercut.4312:

I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.

The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.

The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.

My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).

Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.

I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.

Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.

And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?

No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.

This makes no sense what so ever?

Spelled out for you…

Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.

People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?

Here. [MU]
Our PvE player’s are not stupid.

You must of looked pretty kitten hard to find something as remote as an “insult” as that is. You have to be trolling to think that’s an insult.

I have a solution to this problem, been thinking about it seriously for a while but it may just work.

Transfer.

What do you guys think? Think that’ll work?

grins MUstache

QuickLime.7253:

Ha! Hey FC, me thinks GoM struck a nerve. MU is focusing us. LOL. Hope you can make some use out of that fact. It great to see them angry. They make the best loot bags! XD

but seriously though, MU sucks and I hope your family dies in a fire.

holy kitten dude, you are really serious about being the champion of the Pver’s.

QuickLime.7253:

Ha! Hey FC, me thinks GoM struck a nerve. MU is focusing us. LOL. Hope you can make some use out of that fact. It great to see them angry. They make the best loot bags! XD

but seriously though, MU sucks and I hope your family dies in a fire.

QuickLime bud, really think before you type on a public forum.