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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

do you want a Colosseum?

you know, kinda like those ancient roman gladiator thing.

player limit could be 500 per Colosseum server since that is the WvW player limit per borderlands / eternal battlegrounds.

maybe 3 servers currently at war in WvWvW could share one Colosseum server?

entry, maybe enter some new asura gate in lions arch to get into the Colosseum.

players could participate in various PvE and PvP (using PvE gear) activities:
- co op fight against deadly monsters with people cheering / booing
- place bets (or manipulate them for more profit?)
- competitive co op battles (monster pong maybe? kill a monster to send a new monster into opposing team’s lane)
- 1 vs 1 duels ! (or team battles, yawn)
- last man standing free for all (with time limit?)
- player generate content (player made arenas filled with traps, monsters etc)
- etc

hmmm perhaps it would be more optimized to separate different activities into different instances, like dungeon instances etc.

so, do you want a Colosseum? yes? no? why? XD

p/s: this is a general question topic aimed at the general guild wars 2 players crowd with some examples thrown in.

if i got the time, i will go through and see who voted “yes”. words like “yes” or “+1” or “i like it” etc will be taken as a YES vote unless otherwise stated.

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Wetpaw.3487 | PsionicDingo.2065 | Phoenixfudge.5290 |
XXOwnsXY.9465 | cocolu.7640 | Mirta.5029
Sube Dai.8496 | Morrigan.2809 | Dustfinger.9510
Gwalchgwn.1659 | tom.7468

NO
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Posted by: Wetpaw.3487

Wetpaw.3487

Hell ya to all of that

JQ Druid

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Posted by: goldenwing.8473

goldenwing.8473

Hmmm, like a mega-extension of the Sylvari storyline gladiator pit fight for Caladbolg where the Sylvari and his opponent (the notorious thiefing squire) end up in a drugged haze, hallucinating while fighting? With bets being placed by gawkers, including the Charr who bets on the dark horse (you) and makes a mint when you divinely win (with a little hand-greasing to some mercenary archers up on the wall above the pit)?

Like that?

No.

Not personally.

I can see the attractions for others though.

What kind of rewards would you offer?

Nobody actually does this kind of thing “for fun”.

Needs incentives.

<straightface>

BG: 52 alts, 29 lvl 80’s. They all look good, so I am done with the game: Oct 2014

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Hell ya to all of that

aaah thanks for the feedback!

Hmmm, like a mega-extension of the Sylvari storyline gladiator pit fight for Caladbolg where the Sylvari and his opponent (the notorious thiefing squire) end up in a drugged haze, hallucinating? With bets being placed by gawkers, including the Charr who bets on the dark horse (you) and makes a mint when you divinely win (with a little hand-greasing to some mercenary archers up on the wall above the pit)?

Like that?

No.

Not personally.

I can see the attractions for others though.

What kind of rewards would you offer?

Nobody actually does this kind of thing “for fun”.

Needs incentives.

<straightface>

hmmm i dunno what you are talking about. must be the Sylvari personal story quest since i have not done that yet hahah.

hmmm rewards, incentives, hmmm true that.
well, lets see,
- new achievements, new titles perhaps?
- new “Colosseum Rank & Abilities” similar to the somewhat new “WvW Rank & Abilities” kittenol
- silvers?
- bet winnings?
- more silvers?
- new token? kittenolol
- new currency? we have bronze (copper), silver, gold, laurels, karma etc.

hmmmm if we look at it in more detail:
- co op fight against deadly monsters with people cheering / booing
if people cheer (Colosseum spectator skill), increases chance for bags of silver from killed monster.
if people boo (Colosseum spectator skill), increases chance for <insert something bad here>
win more silvers for surviving more battles in a row without dying?
got solo mode with npc (for those forever alone ppl), random party mode (hey, we just met, lets kill some monsters together!), arranged party mode etc.
some small entrance fee to act as gold sink.

- place bets (or manipulate them for more profit?)
place bets on any on going activity in the Colosseum? house (anet) takes a cut of course, to act as gold sink etc.

- competitive co op battles (monster pong maybe? kill a monster to send a new monster into opposing team’s lane)
could be a “challengers accepted version” of the “co op fight against deadly monsters with people cheering / booing” mentioned earlier.
it starts off as a normal game until another team decides to challenge you.
could have random people cheering / booing on both teams for various <insert nice things here> and <insert bad things here> for the 2 teams.
challenging team needs to pay some small challenge fee perhaps?

- 1 vs 1 duels ! (or team battles, yawn)
bets!
small entrance fee.

- last man standing free for all (with time limit?)
bets! see who survives in the end.
small entrance fee.
vicious monsters are let loose once 1st time limit is reached
deadly traps start appearing once 2nd time limit is reached

- player generated content (player made arenas filled with traps, monsters etc)
cost gems perhaps? some profit for anet
custom arenas rental?

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Posted by: PsionicDingo.2065

PsionicDingo.2065

Yes. Vet and Champ fights are fun and I’d love Dailies and reward systems to just play with them outside of dungeons and events. There could be some cool fights.

There could be cool PvP incentives.

I’m for it.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Yes. Vet and Champ fights are fun and I’d love Dailies and reward systems to just play with them outside of dungeons and events. There could be some cool fights.

There could be cool PvP incentives.

I’m for it.

hmmm fighting waves of veterans or … gasps champions! in the following Colosseum arena modes:
- co op battle against monster
- co op battle against monster – challenge accepted version

hmmm a whole new Colosseum dailies and Colosseum monthly? WvW then.
omg completionists gonna rage! casuals rejoice! new alternative to earn some laurels. well probably not, since we will be using PvE gear so the Colosseum will probably be an extension of PvE and WvW.

do you mean some new sPvP incentives to catch the sPvP only players attention perhaps?

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Posted by: VidGhost.3215

VidGhost.3215

I want one massive 3 way server fight in one single small arena of inescapable death no walls.. no hills just sand of the arena… zergs pawnage. now it would be laggy and an epileptic’s nightmare but boy would it be funny as and you would score so much from spam

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Deimos Tel Arin.7391

I want one massive 3 way server fight in one single small arena of inescapable death no walls.. no hills just sand of the arena… zergs pawnage. now it would be laggy and an epileptic’s nightmare but boy would it be funny as and you would score so much from spam

O_O errrr well, if player generated content is allowed in the Colosseum then perhaps yes that may be possible.

i.e.
arena floor texture type: sand
arena size: very small / small / medium
teams: 3 (could let players choose their own team i.e. red blue green or make it default to their own home servers etc)
type: team death match
respawn timer: author defined
respawn location: author defined
etc

and, if the system permits, may allow the public to contribute towards the custom arena’s rental so the custom arena is kept alive by the players who enjoyed it as well.

more gems sales, more profit for arena perhaps?

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Posted by: Phoenixfudge.5290

Phoenixfudge.5290

Yes I’d always imagine a Colosseum for 1v1 duels and spectators. When a combatant goes down in the 1v1 the crowd would vote thumbs down or thumbs up (finish him! or let him live another day!) and the winner could choose what he want but gets more points if he follows the crowd.

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Posted by: XXOwnsXY.9465

XXOwnsXY.9465

The short answer is YES.

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Posted by: cocolu.7640

cocolu.7640

A big YES!!! I’m not good at fighting but I love to watch. Crowds should be able to boo or clap for their favorite fighters as well.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Yes I’d always imagine a Colosseum for 1v1 duels and spectators. When a combatant goes down in the 1v1 the crowd would vote thumbs down or thumbs up (finish him! or let him live another day!) and the winner could choose what he want but gets more points if he follows the crowd.

hmmm yeah those sounds awesome!
roman gladiator style hohoho!

well, could be set (if it can be done) after a time limit, spectators could unlock some extra skills that can sort of interfere with the match, such as:
- throwing banana peel (knock down + crippled?)
- throwing ink bags (blindness?)
- etc

The short answer is YES.

do you have a long answer as well? :p

A big YES!!! I’m not good at fighting but I love to watch. Crowds should be able to boo or clap for their favorite fighters as well.

they could place bets too! massive gold sink huehuehue!

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Posted by: XXOwnsXY.9465

XXOwnsXY.9465

I do have a long answer, but it’s late and I’m tipsy..so maybe later

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Posted by: Adian.8756

Adian.8756

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

hell yeah I would do that for fun. Yes, we want it.

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

+1 to everything in this thread.

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Posted by: Morrigan.2809

Morrigan.2809

That sounds really awesome great idea- I really like the idea of spectator skills- in some personal stories you have something like it if you team up with another person.

hey maybe some of the “gladiators” will become real crowd favourites.
A booky system would also be awesome.

I like it

Gunnar’s Hold

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Posted by: The Spiral King.2483

The Spiral King.2483

Sounds like a fun idea. I know some people use the mini arena in the WvW JP already for such purposes. A proper one where achievements and maybe even a title or two could be earned would be a good reward system. If you have actual gold or item rewards, you open it up to bribery and all sorts of nasty things (just like the real world!) but just a place for a little glory and fun would be nice. If Anet is so dead set against dueling anywhere, placing an arena in every major city would be a nice way to officiate and regulate dueling. Black Citadel already has one if I remember.

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

Because in-game betting on pvp matches would certainly not devolve into match-fixing and exploits within the first 5 minutes.

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Posted by: Blade Of Gandara.6738

Blade Of Gandara.6738

random arenas 4vs4 like in gw1 would be cool or gvg!! the game is called guildwars right? why no guild vs guild battles!! and please buff warriors !! hahaha make a new class!! make monk !! haha this game need healers

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Posted by: Blade Of Gandara.6738

Blade Of Gandara.6738

warrior is the main class and front page of the game why make them so weaklings? atleast let them use hundred blades while moving lol

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

Daecollo.9578

Maybe if “all” classes had some way to sustain themselves and not some of them. Also if overall damage was lowered by 50%. Condition damage and duration lowered by 50% as well.

More strategy and epic slower fights.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

I do have a long answer, but it’s late and I’m tipsy..so maybe later

i see. hope to see you later then!

had a brief read. this “Olympiad from Lineage 2” seems like a very major 1 vs 1 event in that game. would be nice if gw2 has one but i think official ones by anet seems unlikely.

now if anet allows player generated contents then perhaps players can host their own 1 vs 1 events …

hell yeah I would do that for fun. Yes, we want it.

+1 to everything in this thread.

thanks for the feedback! if we show anet that there is enough support for something, then perhaps something may happen.

That sounds really awesome great idea- I really like the idea of spectator skills- in some personal stories you have something like it if you team up with another person.

hey maybe some of the “gladiators” will become real crowd favourites.
A booky system would also be awesome.

I like it

bookie system would also be a nice gold sink for anet aye.

Sounds like a fun idea. I know some people use the mini arena in the WvW JP already for such purposes. A proper one where achievements and maybe even a title or two could be earned would be a good reward system. If you have actual gold or item rewards, you open it up to bribery and all sorts of nasty things (just like the real world!) but just a place for a little glory and fun would be nice. If Anet is so dead set against dueling anywhere, placing an arena in every major city would be a nice way to officiate and regulate dueling. Black Citadel already has one if I remember.

an arena in every city would make people visit cities again!

Because in-game betting on pvp matches would certainly not devolve into match-fixing and exploits within the first 5 minutes.

well, everything can be fixed. loop holes closed etc.

random arenas 4vs4 like in gw1 would be cool or gvg!! the game is called guildwars right? why no guild vs guild battles!! and please buff warriors !! hahaha make a new class!! make monk !! haha this game need healers

hmmm yeah gw2 needs more types of PvP for PvE characters. at the moment, PvE characters can only PvP in WvW. very limited.

warrior is the main class and front page of the game why make them so weaklings? atleast let them use hundred blades while moving lol

hundred blades while moving. perhaps this will be possible one day.
expect the damage to be drastically reduced though. or perhaps there will be 2 variants.

activate hundred blade once, standard skill, roots you in place. cannot move.
activate hundred blade again quickly, unroots you and you are able to move, but the damage is drastically reduced.

Maybe if “all” classes had some way to sustain themselves and not some of them. Also if overall damage was lowered by 50%. Condition damage and duration lowered by 50% as well.

More strategy and epic slower fights.

but faster fights can be epic too.

and if player made arenas are possible, then it is possible to have re-spawn-able items spawn periodically in the arena. items such as
- bandages
- antidote
- stimulant
- weapons
- etc

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

Dustfinger.9510

Great idea. love it.

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Posted by: MaXi.3642

MaXi.3642

seems like a suggestion for whole new game or at least datadisk… anyway, some ideas would be great as new SPvP mode

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

+1
This post needs 15 characters kittenzle

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Great idea. love it.

+1
This post needs 15 characters kittenzle

thanks for the feedback! i have added your votes to the total.

seems like a suggestion for whole new game or at least datadisk… anyway, some ideas would be great as new SPvP mode

hmmm indeed. well, the original guild wars had quite a lot of new game modes added over the years too.

guild wars: factions (2nd year) – alliance battles
guild wars: nightfall (3rd year) – heroes, mini games, etc

i was hoping the same for guild wars 2 as well.
more awesome content down these years.

the way i look at it now, PvP options for PvE / WvW people seems limited as they can only do group pvp inside WvW.

it would be nice if they can bring all their PvE gear and do some PvP inside a …
Colosseum !!!

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

I want one massive 3 way server fight in one single small arena of inescapable death no walls.. no hills just sand of the arena… zergs pawnage. now it would be laggy and an epileptic’s nightmare but boy would it be funny as and you would score so much from spam

Downed state – removed
Revive ability – removed

Morituri te salutant!

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Posted by: tom.7468

tom.7468

I love tower defence in starcraft so therefor the competitive co op idea +1

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Posted by: Areann.1304

Areann.1304

Rood idea, give me a challenge!

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Posted by: Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625

As said (only once), there already is a Collosseum-ish arena called The Bane. It’s in the Black Citadel. Now we just need to get some activities up in there (:

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Posted by: Pixelpumpkin.4608

Pixelpumpkin.4608

Yes, the bane would be perfect for many of these scenarios! There’s a possibility that ANet has already planned half of these things (if or when we see them implemented is another matter).

There have also been some great ideas in this related thread about main city mini games: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Main-City-Minigames

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Posted by: Makarei.4316

Makarei.4316

what if its a dungeon, but takes on aspects like those awesome bosses in living story. like each fight is a meaning ful challenge as you battle your way through vietrans, champions and bosses etc.. while knocking out achievements, and earning special currency to buy skins and other fancy items. though there shouldn’t be heaps of people as it would be too much like WvW or PvP tournament. you could match some battles with other player teams connecting and some with npc monsters, have a mixture. that could be seen as random challenge every-time you play.

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Posted by: Kajiri.8215

Kajiri.8215

I wouldnt want this to be just a huge zerg fight… We have WvW for that. It would be more fun if it was a ‘last man standing’ kind of fight. This would require some amount of cooperation to narrow down the finalists, so I’d suggest something like this:

(Randomly?) assign people in to X man teams. Once there are only Y people left, it turns into a free-for-all.

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Posted by: kito.1827

kito.1827

i really like this idea a lot!!

so a YES!
because it gives more variety and a “pve-end-game-mode” where i could find myself
and i really like the idea with interacting spectators (cheer/boo; bet)

OT: imho first spvp needs some major-dev-love in case of game modes

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Posted by: Derpula Stevens.8249

Derpula Stevens.8249

Oh YESH! WE NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!

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Posted by: Henge.3907

Henge.3907

Yes and its ballsweat that we don’t have one already in LA. It was in Edge of Destiny for kitten sake, they start rebuilding it in the story. I get in game all friggin excited for it, and its been torn down? What the kitten?!

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

well, if a whole new area is too hard or takes too much time, perhaps can re-use existing content?

like the arena in black citadel.

the collapse (long bridge) in divinity reach could be awesome for 1 vs 1 death matches perhaps?

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

Mad Queen Malafide.7512

Naval battles!

The real colosseum during Roman times, would occasionally fill the arena with water, and have warriors reenact historical naval battles. That would be perfect for GW2. Just have boats rise from a hatch in the floor, flood the place with water. Add a few mounted canons, and allow players to board other ships. Add a few angry sharks in the water for good measure. Every battle could have a theme fitting with a Tyrian historical battle.

Additionally, the last two people standing would be able to earn extra rewards. And maybe spectators would be able to vote if they want the player to live (thumb down), or if they want him to die (thumb up). (Yes, they always get this wrong in Hollywood movies, it should be in reverse)

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Posted by: Areann.1304

Areann.1304

You could even do guild versus guild in there :-)

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Posted by: Herschie.6380

Herschie.6380

I think it should be an extension of PvP maybe. Not many players do PvP, and opt to instead do WvW

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Posted by: Nay of the Ether.8913

Nay of the Ether.8913

I don’t know about a whole new version of wvw, because that’s pretty much what you’re asking for, but I sure as hell would love to see the charr fighting pit turned into a minigame in the Black Citadel, and it could very easily be made to accommodate many of the things you just listed. I would absolutely love that! So combine your idea with mine= win hehe

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Posted by: Cristobal.8640

Cristobal.8640

Yest to all you said. Pretty good suggestions.

I would like to add the minor suggestion of a prize for The Last Man Standing tournaments, a special tournaments say once a month.

The ability to hide chest armor, both in pve and pvp.

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Posted by: Lil Puppy.5216

Lil Puppy.5216

It’s already in the game, have you not been to Black Citadel? They have an arena already and it has the traditional animal cages, multiple tunnels for several players/monsters, and even drop cages for the really nasty surprises.

But like most of the activities, it is not implemented.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

It’s already in the game, have you not been to Black Citadel? They have an arena already and it has the traditional animal cages, multiple tunnels for several players/monsters, and even drop cages for the really nasty surprises.

But like most of the activities, it is not implemented.

aye thats real sad. how much longer must we wait?

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Posted by: Okuza.5210

Okuza.5210

Instead of outright banning people, we could instead feed them to the lions in the colosseum. We could even charge admission and then up/down vote.

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Posted by: Gintoki.9458

Gintoki.9458

Everything you said +1

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

My thoughts on 1v1 duels. GW2 isn’t a game based on 1v1 skill as it currently stands. It is a very Rock, Paper, Scissors kind of game. Current;y that balance is far from perfect seeing as there are several specs that allow you to have almost no real weaknesses and the only spec that can defeat it 1v1 is a similarly OP build. Certain classes like mesmer have a massive advantage in single combat. Bunkers also have an edge because typically DPS builds can’t do enough damage due to protection or insane regen (looking at you rangers). 1v1 doesn’t prove much of anything, I’ll sometimes join a 1v1 server but it’s mostly just for a quick practice session but I always know that they prove next to nothing.

I’d also much rather see GvG put into the game before anything like this. I’d also want to see some of the PvP arenas that GW1 Factions introduced, they were interesting non-symmetrical game types.

Just an angry old man…

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Posted by: Renovatio.2504

Renovatio.2504

Something like the arenas in The Elder Scrolls?
Not only would I love to participate in them, I’d even enjoy watching it. Learn a thing or two about other classes and players. An option to sit in the Colosseum stands would be really cool.

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Posted by: Afrowizard.1062

Afrowizard.1062

This sounds great. Maybe not the PvE side to it but a free for all arena with massive perks to the last man standing (or divided between however many are standing). Some changes would have to be made such as Permastealth thieves and other high mobility classes such as Warrior, Ele and Mesmer but still very good. Again +1 for duels and definitely BETTING. There’s a reason it’s so big in the real world, people love the adrenaline rush.