Guild Wars 2

Currently there persists a problem with the Guild Ranking System that allows Guild Leaders to accidentally misclick and give guild leadership to a member, without any prompt or warning of the repercussions. This causes obvious problems and it is irreversible.

When that person becomes guild leader:
-You cannot demote them.
-You cannot remove the rights of the Guild Leader rank.
-You cannot kick them.
-You cannot move the rank of the Guild Leader below that of any other rank.

You can:
-Ask the person to demote themselves. (Of course what if they never log on, or simply say, “No.”)
-Report the issue. (In which case, they respond to you, telling you to make this thread with a feature as a suggestion to be implemented into the game to fix the problem.)

This is already a widespread problem and I don’t understand why the problem is persisting without acknowledgement by ArenaNet. This one mistake can obviously tear a guild apart if you accidentally promoted a malicious member (Who may have normally remained content with their regular membership.). Removing all members and essentially hijacking the guild, forcing the guild to transfer to another guild and reinvest the time and effort to rebuild the guild’s influence and reputation within the community-all because of one simple misclick is the obvious worst-case-yet-completely-possible scenario.

*Suggestion: There should be a rank that cannot be given to anyone but the original guild leader without some sort of prompt or warning that you are transferring this ultimate leadership role to someone else if you so chose to do so.

Totally agree. Arenanet please help it’s insane that this would be allowed to happen!

The post/thread ‘Guild quality lifetime suggestions’ (I think it’s the name, word by word).
Does mention this as well as other useful guild improvements,
I will suggest to go support that post/thread. :-)

Fully agree. I don’t understand why they even allow a co-leader in the first place. Remember where we are kiddies…we’re on the interwebs where its not all rainbows and gumdrops

Even guild leaders who haven’t experienced this problem should show some support. The number of people affected will only increase and it has the potential to tear communities apart.

This hasn’t happen to me yet, however I believe as time allows would become a greater issue that would have an impact on the community.

Highly recommend the suggestion.

I think the best fix for an issue like this is to use the same system used for deleting characters. You would be required to type in the full character name and confirming that before leadership passes on to the next member.

Lethalvriend.1723:

I think the best fix for an issue like this is to use the same system used for deleting characters. You would be required to type in the full character name and confirming that before leadership passes on to the next member.

Perfect idea, imo.

You might also be required to confirm that you’re promoting said player to Guild Leader by typing Guild Leader.

Nurvus.2891:

Lethalvriend.1723:

I think the best fix for an issue like this is to use the same system used for deleting characters. You would be required to type in the full character name and confirming that before leadership passes on to the next member.

Perfect idea, imo.

You might also be required to confirm that you’re promoting said player to Guild Leader by typing Guild Leader.

Or promoting by typing the player you want to promote as guild leader. Or even having a command for promoting like /gpromote.

Er, typing the player is what is being suggested… did you even read the OP?

I disagree, our guild was founded with three guild leaders and we don’t bring in people that would not step down if asked, also who accidentally makes someone co-lead? Also why is it Anet’s problem that some people don’t watch what they click? I hate hearing that Anet screwed up by allowing a player to make a mistake, and what happened to having penalties for making mistakes? Nah for real though thank you QQers, the world need haters.

I think a multi leadership system is awesome and our guild has no desire to see it change. We love Anet for listening to REAL players and not people who need mommy to help because the game is too hard. For real people just play and enjoy because if they start listening to you guys it will be Warhammer all over again.

Life and games are full of challenges, rise to meet them!

Boogie, are you trolling? Hard for me to take you seriously. It’s common to put up a dialog box “Are you sure?” before doing something serious. It’s a part of good software design. Why do you think A-net asks for you to type your char name before deleting?… you can’t be serious with your post

Well, Boogie has a point.

I am against the “unremovable rank” suggestion.
However, Boogie, you can’t deny that an important decision such as passing Guild Leadership would benefit from a “insert new guild leader’s name to confirm” dialog similar to what you do to delete a character.

That part I agree with, typing it in is fine just but just be careful as a leader/officer what you click on until that day.

There should only be one person who can hold guild leader rank. Agree

I concur. There needs to be some security measures for
such a decision. And if not for that, I think it’s fair if the Guild
system in a game that includes the word Guild, isn’t completely
broken ^^.

Ts Ts Ts…

It is fine as it is… The idea of being able to promote others to Leadership is for Guilds that are not lead by one person and have a Council type structure of Equals.

If you have a Dictatorial/Monarchic type leadership i your guild then you just need to create a new Rank and Call it “Co-Leader” and then promote others who are supposed to have some Leadership authority in your guild to it. That way you can rest assured that you still hold on to your Ultimate Authority.

I do agree that, a Popup up warning with Confirmation would be the Solution here…to avoid accidents.

But this approach is not new, it exists in many MMO’s, and it is a preferred system.