Guild Wars 2

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

that’s not a valid point, I can walk into the TP right now and see so many heads that I can not distinguish from any- many- miny or moe, try clicking on the NPC just using the mouse is hard ……whats that….you say! Oh yes, Use the (F) button!

If you can be blocked by a mount in another game, its cause they don’t allow you to use the (F) button to communicate with the NPC’s. There should be no complaint in this game about such a minor infraction. I do recall such nasty etiquette in other MMO’s and would agree that if it was another game. Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only no cities? Of course you are free to come up with another reason to say no.

Gummy.4278:

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

that’s not a valid point, I can walk into the TP right now and see so many heads that I can not distinguish from any- many- miny or moe, try clicking on the NPC just using the mouse is hard ……whats that….you say! Oh yes, Use the (F) button!

If you can be blocked by a mount in another game, its cause they don’t allow you to use the (F) button to communicate with the NPC’s. There should be no complaint in this game about such a minor infraction. I do recall such nasty etiquette in other MMO’s and would agree that if it was another game. Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only no cities? Of course you are free to come up with another reason to say no.

except mounts would be twice as big as a standing character, and as a result would clutter twice as much of the screen.

BrunoBRS.5178:

Gummy.4278:

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

that’s not a valid point, I can walk into the TP right now and see so many heads that I can not distinguish from any- many- miny or moe, try clicking on the NPC just using the mouse is hard ……whats that….you say! Oh yes, Use the (F) button!

If you can be blocked by a mount in another game, its cause they don’t allow you to use the (F) button to communicate with the NPC’s. There should be no complaint in this game about such a minor infraction. I do recall such nasty etiquette in other MMO’s and would agree that if it was another game. Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only no cities? Of course you are free to come up with another reason to say no.

except mounts would be twice as big as a standing character, and as a result would clutter twice as much of the screen.

Read that last part there, I said “Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only, no cities?” Can you accept mounts in this game if that was one of the stipulations? Why be so against it, if you have the chance to help mold it to be something you could like just as much as the others who really want them?

Gummy.4278:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Gummy.4278:

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

that’s not a valid point, I can walk into the TP right now and see so many heads that I can not distinguish from any- many- miny or moe, try clicking on the NPC just using the mouse is hard ……whats that….you say! Oh yes, Use the (F) button!

If you can be blocked by a mount in another game, its cause they don’t allow you to use the (F) button to communicate with the NPC’s. There should be no complaint in this game about such a minor infraction. I do recall such nasty etiquette in other MMO’s and would agree that if it was another game. Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only no cities? Of course you are free to come up with another reason to say no.

except mounts would be twice as big as a standing character, and as a result would clutter twice as much of the screen.

Read that last part there, I said “Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only, no cities?” Can you accept mounts in this game if that was one of the stipulations? Why be so against it, if you have the chance to help mold it to be something you could like just as much as the others who really want them?

mounts wouldn’t be allowed in cities to begin with, or at least i hope ANet, in the case they lose their sanity and implement mounts, keep some of that sanity and ban mounts from cities.

and me (and others) are against it because it’s intrusive. it’s something that gets in the way of the game, actively. it’s something that gets in the way of gameplay, gets in the way of visuals, gets in the way of the immersion and even gets in the way of the roleplaying, for the people that are into it.

not to mention, all the time spent worrying about “the mounts content update” is time not spend worrying about better, more interesting content updates. ANet has finite resources, and when they want a new feature, that means another feature gets pushed back.

BrunoBRS.5178:

Gummy.4278:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Gummy.4278:

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

that’s not a valid point, I can walk into the TP right now and see so many heads that I can not distinguish from any- many- miny or moe, try clicking on the NPC just using the mouse is hard ……whats that….you say! Oh yes, Use the (F) button!

If you can be blocked by a mount in another game, its cause they don’t allow you to use the (F) button to communicate with the NPC’s. There should be no complaint in this game about such a minor infraction. I do recall such nasty etiquette in other MMO’s and would agree that if it was another game. Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only no cities? Of course you are free to come up with another reason to say no.

except mounts would be twice as big as a standing character, and as a result would clutter twice as much of the screen.

Read that last part there, I said “Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only, no cities?” Can you accept mounts in this game if that was one of the stipulations? Why be so against it, if you have the chance to help mold it to be something you could like just as much as the others who really want them?

mounts wouldn’t be allowed in cities to begin with, or at least i hope ANet, in the case they lose their sanity and implement mounts, keep some of that sanity and ban mounts from cities.

and me (and others) are against it because it’s intrusive. it’s something that gets in the way of the game, actively. it’s something that gets in the way of gameplay, gets in the way of visuals, gets in the way of the immersion and even gets in the way of the roleplaying, for the people that are into it.

not to mention, all the time spent worrying about “the mounts content update” is time not spend worrying about better, more interesting content updates. ANet has finite resources, and when they want a new feature, that means another feature gets pushed back.

I do not agree, Role players are gonna want the whole Enchilada. By having a Mount it will add to their Visuals , Game play , and Immersion , the fun factor will go up for them.To them the only thing “getting in the way” is poor excuses, instead of solutions.

I know that the gamers are best served, by fixing broken items First, then coming back and adding other content that would make for fun. Which gives us lots of time to keep on discussing this. Just tell me, if they was putting them in, how would you want the mounts to be, what would make you happy to have a mount?

Gummy.4278:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Gummy.4278:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Gummy.4278:

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

that’s not a valid point, I can walk into the TP right now and see so many heads that I can not distinguish from any- many- miny or moe, try clicking on the NPC just using the mouse is hard ……whats that….you say! Oh yes, Use the (F) button!

If you can be blocked by a mount in another game, its cause they don’t allow you to use the (F) button to communicate with the NPC’s. There should be no complaint in this game about such a minor infraction. I do recall such nasty etiquette in other MMO’s and would agree that if it was another game. Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only no cities? Of course you are free to come up with another reason to say no.

except mounts would be twice as big as a standing character, and as a result would clutter twice as much of the screen.

Read that last part there, I said “Why not say that you are ok with mounts if they are for battle areas only, no cities?” Can you accept mounts in this game if that was one of the stipulations? Why be so against it, if you have the chance to help mold it to be something you could like just as much as the others who really want them?

mounts wouldn’t be allowed in cities to begin with, or at least i hope ANet, in the case they lose their sanity and implement mounts, keep some of that sanity and ban mounts from cities.

and me (and others) are against it because it’s intrusive. it’s something that gets in the way of the game, actively. it’s something that gets in the way of gameplay, gets in the way of visuals, gets in the way of the immersion and even gets in the way of the roleplaying, for the people that are into it.

not to mention, all the time spent worrying about “the mounts content update” is time not spend worrying about better, more interesting content updates. ANet has finite resources, and when they want a new feature, that means another feature gets pushed back.

I do not agree, Role players are gonna want the whole Enchilada. By having a Mount it will add to their Visuals , Game play , and Immersion , the fun factor will go up for them.To them the only thing “getting in the way” is poor excuses, instead of solutions.

I know that the gamers are best served, by fixing broken items First, then coming back and adding other content that would make for fun. Which gives us lots of time to keep on discussing this. Just tell me, if they was putting them in, how would you want the mounts to be, what would make you happy to have a mount?

like i said in a bunch of other posts in this thread, any mount outside of dolyaks wouldn’t make sense, because there are no other animals in GW2 that even resemble mountable animals. there are no horses in tyria. they are extinct. so the only roleplayers that want mounts are those that don’t care about the lore, and those are poor roleplayers.

how i’d be happy to see mounts? by not seeing them. any and all time and effort that could potentially be spent on mounts, i’d rather have be spent on new dynamic events, armors, weapons, etc.

lol I’d be happy to have a dolyak.

And you twist my question around so you don’t have to answer it proper, I never asked how do you want to See them.

Equipping a mount will disable the waypoints. Its an option that anyone can take or refuse. If WPs cost money, the mount will need food, so it will cost too. As simple as that and it won’t ruin any game.

BrunoBRS.5178:

there are no horses in tyria. they are extinct. so the only roleplayers that want mounts are those that don’t care about the lore, and those are poor roleplayers.

Man, now i realize that. No horses but a lot of dears, stags, cows etc. How the kitten did they get extinct? Dragons are only eating horses? This really has to be a bad lore or design flaw.

I’d gladly ride a dolyak with my norn and look completely in-character. Also what’s so bad about flying? Flying is awesome, flying is fun, why not? I say even add mounted combat!

Just keep the mounts exclusively PvE and blocked in cities and other hubs. But if there ever is mounted combat, that could be another layer of fun to WvW.

Ronah.2869:

Equipping a mount will disable the waypoints. Its an option that anyone can take or refuse. If WPs cost money, the mount will need food, so it will cost too. As simple as that and it won’t ruin any game.

BrunoBRS.5178:

there are no horses in tyria. they are extinct. so the only roleplayers that want mounts are those that don’t care about the lore, and those are poor roleplayers.

Man, now i realize that. No horses but a lot of dears, stags, cows etc. How the kitten did they get extinct? Dragons are only eating horses? This really has to be a bad lore or design flaw.

horses are equines. last i checked the other animals you mentioned are not equines.

Tyria isn’t Earth. horses could have been out-evolved by moas for all we know, or the charr love horse meat so much they ate them to extinction (the charr are the native tyrians after all). but they don’t exist, not anymore.

Harbard.5738:

I’d gladly ride a dolyak with my norn and look completely in-character. Also what’s so bad about flying? Flying is awesome, flying is fun, why not? I say even add mounted combat!

Just keep the mounts exclusively PvE and blocked in cities and other hubs. But if there ever is mounted combat, that could be another layer of fun to WvW.

flying mounts would let you skip content. you’d just fly around the world, breaking every challenge imposed by terrain, and ruining the scale of the world.

and that’s without bringing up the issue with the fact that GW2 uses zones, and that those zones are restricted by physical, tangible barriers, not invisible ones.

even if mounts were ever added to GW2, they would never, ever fly. not in this game.

The #1 thing that would and probably will stop me from playing this game is the lack of mounts. First off this is an MMO and not only is it an MMO but it has some of the largest maps i have seen. So with that being said where is the mounts or hell even some kind of permanent run speed while not in combat. Seeing how all this game pretty much is, is running around like an fool trying to discover 100% of the map. IDK This is my opinion. And i don’t think I’m alone on this might just be a good thing to add specially seeing how the way points are pretty pricey.

Raine Akrune.8416:

@mrsrachelm oh very convincing. Please tell us the other things YOU think should be removed/never added so we can get right on that. Try adding a real reason next time.

Ask and you shall receive….

1) Mounts aren’t needed, we have a zillion way points in every zone
2) Mounts aren’t needed, the zones are not that big
3) Mounts are not now nor have they ever been a part of GW lore or gaming
4) Mounts ALWAYS block Merchants, NPCS, Quest givers, clutter up bank and trading areas to the point of not being able to see anything or use anything
5) Mounts in high traffic areas will only add to the graphics issues for medium to low end computer systems users (You -do- know that not everyone has the latest and greatest most uber computer, yes?)
6) those with mounts would have an unfair advantage at getting to events over those who do not, especially the higher levels who are farming such things over those of lower levels in a low to mid level zone. The event would be zerged and over before others could even get to it and we KNOW mounts would not be a freebie…they’d be a hell of a lot of gems and only some people would be able to afford them…mainly, the level 80’s.

How’s that for a start? Happy?

Yes, please. Just ground with about a 30% speed boost would be nice. Feels very non-heroic walking around.

I’m enjoying reading the slippery slope posts, though. First, ground mounts. Then, flying mounts. Then…pandas. I don’t get why so many players think so much about WoW. Do other similarities between GW2 and WoW bother them? Or is it only the mounts concept?

They’d encourage exploration. For those who say folks will rush past, missing content and DEs, why would it be any different than current speed boosts? No one’s suggesting 200% speed boosts.

BrunoBRS.5178:

i stopped reading about a 4th of the way through, because there’s no way to read that wall of text. please use paragraphs next time.

anyway, i’m not flaming you, but i’d recommend your read some of my posts in this very page, which explain how mounts would actually break immersion, as mounts haven’t been a thing in tyria for centuries, and will definitely not happen again, now that teleportation costs so little.

what people forget is that tyria isn’t a medieval world, it’s a steampunk world. animal labor has been mostly replaced with machinery, gunpowder exists, the charr hit the industrial revolution, asuras re-created the asura gate network, which connects all 5 major cities (as well as other key points, including strategic locations in previous and current wars, like ebonhawke and fort trinity), AND they created a waypoint network, which allows people to travel instantly for a small fee (smaller than feeding an animal would ever cost).

any distance that doesn’t justify a waypoint travel (or when they have to transport stuff), people just walk. and they can’t defend whatever they’re transporting if they’re on top of a moa or dolyak, because those would be the mounts available.

why would you only be able to mount moas (stupid hybrids between chocobos and ostriches) and dolyaks (fat buffalos)? because there are no horses in tyria. horses are extinct, and may actually have never existed in tyrian land. so your only mount options would look ridiculous and impractical, which is why tyrians don’t ride mounts.

TL;DR: the immersion/RP argument is flawed, because mounts go against almost every staple of tyrian society. it would be like riding a horse around a major city on present day. sure it’s technically feasible, but it’s stupid, ridiculous, impractical and expensive.

Here we ago again with what you call “lore” logic? It may technically be what you call “steampunk” with some industrial advancements, but it is still very midievil. I mean quit using your anti mount bias as some kinda “elitist lore” excuse. It doesnt hold up. Animals are still very much a part of the world, everywhere are racial pack animals. If rideable mounts are obsolete, then pack/ work animals would be obsolete. You mentioned not being able to defend those pack animals while mounted?? I wouldnt prefer to ride a moa, but realistically they would be pretty freakin fast, therefore yes you could defend pack caravans better because of the mobility. Realistically any humanoid in Tyria will have the intelligence to surmise that its faster and more efficient to ride ANY beast of burden rather than being on foot. They would strike fast and retreat fast, ON MOUNTS! What about centaurs or any other fleet of foot beast who might attack? Having the mobility to run them down wouldn’t reallistically be an advantage?? Of course it would. Im simply stating all these scenarios to prove that some of the so called ”logic” or “realism” excuses I hear quoted here is flawed.So the argument of “we have gates and technology and dont need mounts” is flawed. Gates dont realistically and completely solve transportation.
Saying that “riding a mount would be like riding one in present day” is flawed. If Tyria is so technically advanced why are we all using midievil weapons and not ALL carrying firearms or laser cannons or any other myriad of advanced weaponry which could surely be developed by technology we see in-game?? Why are we still all strutting around in wonderful leather and metal armors that make us look ……um, KNIGHTLY?? Cuz its still a freakin midievil fantasy world. AND obviously we all like the midievil feel or we’d be playing some sci-fi futuristic MMO.
I dont believe GW started off saying “lets make an MMO without mounts cuz we wanna be different.” The original GW didnt have rideable PC mounts ( NPCs had them) cuz it was so instanced and linear and there was no need for the developers to incorporate them. They made the lore fit the areas they wanted to concentrate on. AND furthermore, yes there would have HAD to be horses in Tyria at some point, otherwise you could have no “centuar”. If theres no horses, its rediculous to have a half-man, half-horse creature. AND its rediculous that horses would somehow have become extinct when there are so many other VERY familiar mammals running around Tyria, ie…cows, pigs, sheep, goats, canines, felines, bears,etc…especially since a horse would have been highly coveted just as they STILL are today. Im not saying we gotta have a horse for a mount, we could ride dolyaks, wolves, bears, leopards. That wolf of Eir Stegalkin’s is big enuff to ride for crying out loud!!! However I would love to have horses. The developers have obviously tweaked the lore to invent new content in the past. Work it into the “lore”. Someone has discovered a herd of wild horses thought to be extinct in some remote location in Tyria. Now we got MOUNTS BABY!!!It could happen!

Conan.4312:

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i’m serious. conan, dude, learn to use paragraphs. i didn’t read beyond the first line.

but that line told me a lot about you. you previously stated that you wanted mounts for roleplaying and immersion.

then i stated that lore says “no horses, no mounts”, thus the roleplay excuse is invalid.

then you ditch lore.

what kind of roleplayer are you? roleplaying isn’t ditching the rules of the world and making your own, roleplaying is living by the rules of that world, which includes not mounting dolyaks and horses not existing.

and to make a real world relation: guild wars 1, or “medieval fantasy” in general, is set around 1200-1600 in the real world, on technological time frames. guild wars 2 is set, in real world terms, in the 1800s. except it’s a version of the 1800s where you can teleport for cheaper than you can buy a loaf of bread, and that all horses died hundreds of years ago. and the 1800s couldn’t be further away from ‘midievil’ as you like to say.

Mounts seem unnecessary, to be honest.

We have speed buffs and a metric tonne of waypoints for fast travel. If these things weren’t in the game then I could understand wanting mounts, but they just seem to be doubling up. I LOVE the idea of mounts, but I can’t see ANet bothering with them due to the established design of areas.

i’d just like a mount option on any ranger pet in town just to have some fun and the owner would have either a laugh or punch off option

Maybe we should get special mounts for holiday events or something [like this Halloween, for example]. It would be a nice little touch, and since the Halloween event lasts only a week or so, we can experience what GW2 would be like with mounts. Also, using this, Anet can experiment to see if most of the community will like/dislike mounts, and then, either add them permamently or not.

However, if they do decide to add them, it should be in such a way that only the really skillful/intelligent players do it. Perhaps they could make mounts a secret and like, have some random NPC [like a citizen in Divinity’s Reach or whatever] have a 1/5 chance of giving a mount to a player. This would mean that you wouldn’t see a mount every friggin second, so yeah. :P

No to mounts, just no. One can get around on foot easily and quickly, plus the maps are not really designed for them.

Just remembering the mount zergs is WOW makes me shrug. Last thing I want to see in this game.

Mounts are nice to see around. With some restrictions on them, it wont be such a big deal to have them around.

For example:

1) Mounts can’t be used in cities towns or outpost, houses, caves and caverns, dungeons, jumping puzzles.

This means that the vendor NPCs wont be hidden behind the mounts so people cant click on them. While entering a small outpost in the open world, the guards will not let you in without dismounting. Going around that outpost would be the compromise to not dismount. You will not be able to use the mount to jump your way through jumping puzzles. etc.

2) Mounts cant be used underwater and will resist player actions of forcing them to go underwater. Jumping in a lake from above while riding a mount will kill the mount.

This will not change the current game underwater mechanic.

3) Mounts will have the average speed boost as the current speed boosts. They will have a stamina gauge associated that will be used for short sprints.

This will not create a big disadvantage for those not riding mounts.

4) Mounts will be unlocked only for the character sometime later in the game after completing different requirements – a future expansion zone – so it will not be abused by the new characters. it will be a sort of reward for the Hero.

This will let the current game as it is now and will not affect for a long gaming period.
It will make a difference from the low levels and high levels in the zone and it will set a new goal for the players.
As log as in GW2 there is no content skip like in GW1 where you could make a character in Prophesies , than buying a run to LA and from there going to Nightfall and get the heroes, in here the mount system wont be made fast to achieve
One way of unlocking a mount for the character would be a 100% map completion

5) Mounts can have a cost associated to them so they will not replace the WPs.

6) Mounts can get poisoned, crippled, stunned, killed etc. so running around on a mount wont be an easy task. A killed mount wont be re spawn within 15 min so it will force players to use them wisely. They wont be exchangeable like ranger’s pets

This mechanic will make you think twice before you run with a mount through a mob. You might end up in the middle of it with no escape other than the closes WP and a 15 min delay till the mount will be up for usage

7) Unlocking a mount will not guarantee other than the ability to ride one. Mounts for usage will be captured in the world in events similar to “Skill challenges”

A capture mount will be a sort of champion boss roaming around. All players can fight it but only those who have the “riding a mount” ability unlocked will be able to capture them.

etc.

I really don’t understand the people who are against mount only because they don’t like how they were implemented in other games. Why not try to be constructive and invent a new better way of implementing mounts. maybe A-Net will not implement mounts because they don’t want to, but still why should we argue about Yes and No instead trying to develop the idea in a way that wont be hurting anyone.
Propbably, some other game companies are reading these forums too and they will use these ideas in their games if A-Net doesn’t want to.
All its done for the improvement of the game world concepts and not forcing things on players.

BrunoBRS.5178:

Conan.4312:

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i’m serious. conan, dude, learn to use paragraphs. i didn’t read beyond the first line.

but that line told me a lot about you. you previously stated that you wanted mounts for roleplaying and immersion.

then i stated that lore says “no horses, no mounts”, thus the roleplay excuse is invalid.

then you ditch lore.

what kind of roleplayer are you? roleplaying isn’t ditching the rules of the world and making your own, roleplaying is living by the rules of that world, which includes not mounting dolyaks and horses not existing.

and to make a real world relation: guild wars 1, or “medieval fantasy” in general, is set around 1200-1600 in the real world, on technological time frames. guild wars 2 is set, in real world terms, in the 1800s. except it’s a version of the 1800s where you can teleport for cheaper than you can buy a loaf of bread, and that all horses died hundreds of years ago. and the 1800s couldn’t be further away from ‘midievil’ as you like to say.

First off, If you did not read my post then please dont reply to it, as you obviously missed alot of important points I made.

Secondly, you know nothing about me as a person other than I get tired of people ranting about something that would add alot of enjoyment to this game for ALOT of folks and not being able to give viable reasons against it. I respect your opinion to “not like or want mounts” but I have not seen ONE truly viable reason listed here by ANYONE to not have them. Yall may have your opinions on why they shouldnt, but they are just that-opinions. Mounts would not hurt this game, they would make it more successful as many have posted on this very forum, they WANT mounts and would play long term if they were implemented.

Thirdly, I NEVER said anything about roleplaying , only immersion, although I do enjoy roleplaying which by definition means “getting into character”ie…immersion. And I do want to honor lore as I said in previous post. I just think it can , has been and will be again “tweaked” to reflect a specific vision for the game. And by the way, theres nothing in ANY GW lore that says its forbidden to ride a mount, and yes dolyaks were ridden in GW by NPCs. These things were simply left out because it was EASIER/cheaper and the linear game world didnt require it.

And finally, quote whatever date system you like. No soldier/warrior of the 1800s sported Full plate armor and massive warhammers, 2handed swords, maces, etc..it still has the midievil feel. A few inventions and a little magic doesnt change that. Furthermore “midievil fantasy” is a vison, an idealogical world of heroism, not a date.

On another note about mounts blocking vendors being a reason not to have them??? Really? Please! I have played MMOs for 10 years and have never had an issue with that. If it bothers you that bad, make em so that you are dismounted anytime you interact with an NPC!

Played GW1 from 2005 happily without mounts.
They were not really necessary and they are not necessary here.
We cant teleport anywere and it will make GW2 just a copy of all others Mmos.
Let it be the different unique amazing Mmo without mounts.

Just because the LORE says there arn’t any mounts, doesn’t mean that they couldn’t just add them! I mean come on, Guild Wars lore is so choatic and disorganized as it is, what differance does it make?

btw PM me, or I wont see ur relpy :P

Somebody mentioned roleplay. Okay I’ll bite.

Here’s the thing about living breathing mounts. THEY ARE UNGODLY EXPENSIVE. Even maintaining a single horse is an incredibly expensive thing to do. So if you have waypoints and you live in a war torn world strapped for resources, why would you bother maintaining a bunch of animals that aren’t producing food/being raised for food? They’re breakable, they eat everything in sight, they need medical care, breeding them is also incredibly expensive and requires the land on which to do it, and they are limited by their own physical resources. You can ride a horse to death, even. So why maintain such creatures when current technology makes them obsolete?

Also given how often farms in Tyria seem to get the short end I don’t know how they could even manage growing enough hay before getting overwhelmed by murderous spiders or something. :P

I can honestly say that i don’t want to see mounts in Tyria,. If you want mounts then please go play WoW or something else. The true GW players will understand that there is no place for mounts in Tyria.

This is just my opinion and does not require a response.

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Why not just give everyone wings or a car?

Mounts would be pointless seeing as if you walk three feet in any direction in Cursed Shore or any Orr area you are met with 4 mobs that all toss you in a random direction. The only place you’d ever be able to use a mount is in the beginner areas or in towns.

The mob density in this game is too kitten high to allow for mounts. Not that I would want mounts even if the density was lower. I hate both.

Pharalis.4539:

Played GW1 from 2005 happily without mounts.
They were not really necessary and they are not necessary here.
We cant teleport anywere and it will make GW2 just a copy of all others Mmos.
Let it be the different unique amazing Mmo without mounts.

>implying Guild Wars 2’s lack of mounts makes it amazing and unique and groundbreaking for some reason.

Signed.

Mounts would be a fine addition to the game , i actually wonder why they are not in there yet.

They dont even need to give a speed buff, mounts could be simply cosmetic and a matter of pride , which runs at player speed.

@Huma OK you want to say that “So why maintain such creatures when current technology makes them obsolete?” Well you make a very good point, except it will not support your opinion.
If the in game tech is so advanced, then we will ride mechanical beasts instead, just like we do in the real world(aka cars). Now if in the real world we had teleportation then I could not compare the fantasy world with it. But I would think that even if it was in the real world they would still have transport from smaller town to town modes of travel.
If they did have teleportation and its expensive like it is in the game, more than likely they will have only one in every major city. I could get to LA , CA though one to visit my daughter, I would still have to have to have transport via some other means to get to her house, as it would be to far away to walk to. So I would have to say that even in that kind of situation some means of group or individual travel is still needed to get about, even over small distances.

Lore wise Mounts where in fact in the first game ….many NPC’s rode them into battle Summit Beastmaster, Dolyak Rider and Stone Summit Heretic’s all rode mounted and we where allowed a Different type of mounted combat in Nightfall , the Junundu. So Anybody that says LORE WISE there were no mounts, they are wasting the point on people who know better.
I have said it before, its not always about getting from point A to point B fast in fact I would love to use mounts to do the fight with.

What I would like to see is three types of mounts following GW2 own design…Damage, Support, and Control.
First off how to use the mount, each mount would be equipable, like a weapon and use the first three skills in your bar representing the type its is and the off hand would be the weapon you would use for combat, with a new skill set based on mounted combat for each off hand weapon. If you wanted to have mounted, you could use Weapon Swapping to dismount. Only Difference is that you can use TWO handed weapons for mounted combat, don’t give me any jazz about not being able to steer the mount as any war mount would have been trained to turn based on your legs and feet not your hands.
Whenever you hit the water, you go into water type combat just like you do now but if its a wade able stream then you can traverse them mounted. Whenever go into a outpost, you are auto dismounted just as if you went into water, it would switch you back to your dismounted weapon set. If you get to close to a NPC, Jumping puzzle, Underground Cave, or other generally referred to as indoor environment you will be dismounted. During Dynamic Events that you have to protect a outpost, you can mount outside the gates and help the event only if combat occurs outside the gates, if it all happens within the outpost only dismounted combat will occur.

The types of mounts skills based on the type. Each mount would get one skill that gives a speed buff, so in essence a True Charge could finally be realized. This speed buff is only temporary and will give diminishing returns if spammed.

Damage Types would get two skills Charge gives everyone a speed buff in the area and Ride By Attack which should not need a explanation.
Control Types would get Joust which would start with a small speed buff and end with pain for the opponent, does not give speed buff to others and Trample knock down and step on them.
Support Types get Lasso which would let you drag a downed player out of aggro and rez them and Rally which would give a temp. vitality or other buff and break a debuff to all in the area.

I would like to hear others idea’s for more skills based on this and what of the reskills for the weapon chosen to accompany the mount would be like .

Please don’t. Unless they are implemented in a new original way.
Example:
Pulling out your mount from your bagpack, as in other games, is one of the most stupid things ever.

Mara Gossep.2761:

Please don’t. Unless they are implemented in a new original way.
Example:
Pulling out your mount from your bagpack, as in other games, is one of the most stupid things ever.

So now you want us to have a Bag of Tricks to hold mounts. You do realize that in a fantasy environment, we have all kinds of ways of doing the impossible. http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Bag_of_Tricks

But hey, I am ok with summoning them too , which means I say the incantation and it just appears from nothing.

Or we could go the calling method which means, we whistle and the mount runs up from a distance and we get on.

Do you have a better suggestion?

The ONLY way I can see mounts having a use is in PvP. There could be a map that’s just straight up mount wars, which could actually be a lot of fun. But waypoints make mounts for travel worse than useless.

Yup, still just want mounts as another thing to collect. I don’t care about a speed boost, I want to look cool sitting on whatever they’d use. GW has always had plenty of things to collect for no reason other than because you feel like it. Armor? Go ahead. Weapons? Sure. Minis? No problem.

In GW1, there were mounts. For NPCs, sure, but they were there. So to say that they were never at all in the lore is silly. Dwarves had dolyaks and what were the ugly giant hamster things that knocked you down? Bam, mounts.

Waypoints may render them obsolete, sure, but in that case shouldn’t guns do the same to bows? It’s been 250 years after all, so if nothing else they should at least be really fancy bows.

Point is: I still want mounts. If you don’t, and they were ever to be implemented, then don’t use them. Whoaaa.

No mounts please.

i hope they put mounts in and they have to be fed money or they die.

Wow just did a Halloween using the Candy Powered Matter Meter and the little girl Serene got killed by a Horse, interesting!

who needs mounts when you have swag?

wait, i mean waypoints.

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

Why should i want mounts when i have way points and swiftness?
I already travel fast enough.Way point’s costs are fine.I have a few spells which give me speed buff.So in total i don’t need mounts for moving.
The only reason to have them which i see is for collectors.To have what to do.Any different than that no thanks.

My armor skins are enough.That is what i want to show.In so many MMOs people are more focused on they ride rather than what they gear looks like.This is what attracted me to GW2.For 1st time people were looking me not the mount lol.
If mounts were put in the game i want them out of the cities.Mounts shouldn’t be allowed in them.

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

The dev’s already said no, really, If you have the link showing that I would like to see it.

And if you don’t like people making a suggestion for something fun, then don’t play simple….I know it sounds just plain stupid, but I read it the same way when I read yours.
Lore wise, I have to explain this again, NPC had mounts you fought them in GW1 , nightfall we got to ride on the inside the Junundu and GW2 has loading screens with people riding on dolyak’s and last night during the Halloween quest one of the ghost in LA tells you she died cause her Horse kicked her.
The only nonsense I see is the fan-boy-ism. Really if you were a true fan boy you could prove that all that stuff I said is wrong.
And if nobody else has noticed, we are playing in a Magical World, which means what seams Impossible to our real life world, would be possible in the other world.

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Gummy.4278:

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Well the Witch’s Broom can’t be used for obstruction, which is what a lot of people were worried about, and secondly, they are clearly for the lols. It’s fun riding them from the trading post to the crafting station and vice versa and also to just hoover while waiting for a group. I am not even sure if it gives a speed boost or just feels like it does. It’s just a gimmick, not a proper means of transportation. We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount. If it were and it cost X gems, there would be even more people complaining about it then they are about the halloween skins dropping from Black Lion Chests.

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Beastmaster
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Rider
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman

Yep, never have any form of mounts ever been in the lore.

Speaking of lore, it makes a lot of sense to have miniatures.

Fievre.4510:

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Beastmaster
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Rider
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman

Yep, never have any form of mounts ever been in the lore.

Speaking of lore, it makes a lot of sense to have miniatures.

I forgot about the Necrid Horseman and this guy too.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Banished_Dream_Rider

Tinni.4351:

Gummy.4278:

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Well the Witch’s Broom can’t be used for obstruction, which is what a lot of people were worried about, and secondly, they are clearly for the lols. It’s fun riding them from the trading post to the crafting station and vice versa and also to just hoover while waiting for a group. I am not even sure if it gives a speed boost or just feels like it does. It’s just a gimmick, not a proper means of transportation. We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount. If it were and it cost X gems, there would be even more people complaining about it then they are about the halloween skins dropping from Black Lion Chests.

I like how you contradict yourself by saying “It’s fun riding them….and also to just hoover while waiting for a group.”
SO they are FUN, SO you LIKE just AFK’ing on them ,but isn’t that one of the things that the opposing the mounts was against. Who cares what size the mount is, BLOCKING is not an issue anyway cause you can talk to any NPC by hitting the (F) button.
And this line “We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount.”
What difference does that make, you are so opposed to having mounts you justify what has all the makings of being a mount, as being ok cause it was not advertised as a mount, as a way to accept it. If it was not a part of town clothing and was a mount that could go anywhere , really what difference does it make. You already said that is was fun, so why try to make it so the idea of having mounts would not be any different.