Guild Wars 2

hmmm 3 days no replies.
no one approves / fancies / supports such a smart armor system? O_O

I think the fees are indeed somewhat insane, but yes, I can see this working as a part of endgame gear. It fits with how Guild Wars 2 works (given the whole transmutation stone system and all that). Maybe they can incorporate this as a special legendary reward for an enormous quest chain. This could be the result of an experiment done by a collaboration between Sylvari and Asura in which the player does all the work. The player might then be rewarded by the chance to have an armour like this be build.

Is this a suggestion that could work for your idea?

Escildan.2869:

I think the fees are indeed somewhat insane, but yes, I can see this working as a part of endgame gear. It fits with how Guild Wars 2 works (given the whole transmutation stone system and all that). Maybe they can incorporate this as a special legendary reward for an enormous quest chain. This could be the result of an experiment done by a collaboration between Sylvari and Asura in which the player does all the work. The player might then be rewarded by the chance to have an armour like this be build.

Is this a suggestion that could work for your idea?

yes! errr anything will be good!

as long as i can “gotta get them all” because currently i have no reason / motivation to keep / acquire / get the things i do not want or not using etc.

but with this system in place, suddenly, there is an urge to collect everything!

hmmm anyone else there who wanna “gotta get them all” all the things in gw2?

Checking in to see if anyone else fancies this system.

I had that same idea, implemented a little different, but we are on the same page
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Customization-and-Inventory-space/first#post495756

Taerik.3405:

I had that same idea, implemented a little different, but we are on the same page
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Customization-and-Inventory-space/first#post495756

well hopefully anet develops something similar.

having a “gotta get em all” system in guild wars 2 would be nice. would get people to spend more actually.

I’m amazed that in a game with horizontal gear progression, a system like this isnt already in place. I have the max amount of bank space available, filling quickly with gear for when I want to change my build, and when I find a better look by mixing dungeon gears around… oh the pain on my inventory space. I shouldnt need Mule characters in todays MMOs

Taerik.3405:

I’m amazed that in a game with horizontal gear progression, a system like this isnt already in place. I have the max amount of bank space available, filling quickly with gear for when I want to change my build, and when I find a better look by mixing dungeon gears around… oh the pain on my inventory space. I shouldnt need Mule characters in todays MMOs

perhaps it is game-engine-ly impossibru to implement?

lore wise it should not be a problem since we all know how crafty them Ashurans can be with their magic technology.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Prologue:
Inspired by my original “Smart Armor System” in the original Guild Wars
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/smart-armor-system-v3-0-t10071643.html

Idea:
- able to switch Armor Pieces / Weapons “Skins”, “Insignia” and “Runes” after “absorbing” them.

Execution:
- can only change “Skins”, “Insignia” and “Runes” while not in combat.

Example:
- [Insignia][V] [Skin][V] of [Rune][V]
- click on the [V] to bring down a list of “absorbed” items.

Price:
- ridiculous amount of “Fine Transmutation Stones” will be required.
- perhaps 10,000 “Fine Transmutation Stone” as a “ritual fee” for the 1st time.
- maybe 250 “Fine Transmutation Stone” for each per pieces absorbed.
maybe the previous prices were too ridiculous. i leave anet to decide the price.

Explanation:
- each equipment has 3 “variables” mainly “Skin”, “Insignia (Stats)” and “Runes”.
- these 3 “variables” can be freely changed after “absorbing” them.

Pros:
- promotes “gotta get them all” game play.
- makes things very convenient.
- frees up inventory space.
- optional.

Cons:
- ridiculous fees.
- players will not buy anything else after getting them all.
- optional.

I spent quite a lot of time in dungeon to get my body armour and transmutated my exotic into it to get the look.

Recently, i found another nice looking armour from a Karma NPC and really wanted to wear it. But to transmutate my current dungeon armour stats to it means my dungeon armor will be destroyed.

That itself became the limitation of the game, limiting the users with only 1 wearable item at a time unless he is willing to sacrifice all his hard work.

I agree with the suggestion of having a “Gotta Get Them All” concept. I like it in fact as it gives us more things to do in the game. Currently, its getting dull, I am level 80, all exotic, all accessorized with max weapons. would be really nice to see some real change in the wearable item system that promotes more activity.

e.g Current armour have a skin slot that we can slot our e.g karma vendor armor into. Anytime we can switch to that skin. That’ll be nice.

exactly!

plus, this would make guild wars 2 become the first game with such an unique armor system!

EJAZZ.7286:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Prologue:
Inspired by my original “Smart Armor System” in the original Guild Wars
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/smart-armor-system-v3-0-t10071643.html

Idea:
- able to switch Armor Pieces / Weapons “Skins”, “Insignia” and “Runes” after “absorbing” them.

Execution:
- can only change “Skins”, “Insignia” and “Runes” while not in combat.

Example:
- [Insignia][V] [Skin][V] of [Rune][V]
- click on the [V] to bring down a list of “absorbed” items.

Price:
- ridiculous amount of “Fine Transmutation Stones” will be required.
- perhaps 10,000 “Fine Transmutation Stone” as a “ritual fee” for the 1st time.
- maybe 250 “Fine Transmutation Stone” for each per pieces absorbed.
maybe the previous prices were too ridiculous. i leave anet to decide the price.

Explanation:
- each equipment has 3 “variables” mainly “Skin”, “Insignia (Stats)” and “Runes”.
- these 3 “variables” can be freely changed after “absorbing” them.

Pros:
- promotes “gotta get them all” game play.
- makes things very convenient.
- frees up inventory space.
- optional.

Cons:
- ridiculous fees.
- players will not buy anything else after getting them all.
- optional.

I spent quite a lot of time in dungeon to get my body armour and transmutated my exotic into it to get the look.

Recently, i found another nice looking armour from a Karma NPC and really wanted to wear it. But to transmutate my current dungeon armour stats to it means my dungeon armor will be destroyed.

That itself became the limitation of the game, limiting the users with only 1 wearable item at a time unless he is willing to sacrifice all his hard work.

I agree with the suggestion of having a “Gotta Get Them All” concept. I like it in fact as it gives us more things to do in the game. Currently, its getting dull, I am level 80, all exotic, all accessorized with max weapons. would be really nice to see some real change in the wearable item system that promotes more activity.

e.g Current armour have a skin slot that we can slot our e.g karma vendor armor into. Anytime we can switch to that skin. That’ll be nice.

This is a good idea. I also like how DCUO does it, once you equip the item the style is added to your style tab and you can choose that appearance at anytime to be visible regardless of stat item. I know that something like that would make transmutation stones pointless and therefore it will never happen, but I would love an appearance slot.

Smitt.8602:

This is a good idea. I also like how DCUO does it, once you equip the item the style is added to your style tab and you can choose that appearance at anytime to be visible regardless of stat item. I know that something like that would make transmutation stones pointless and therefore it will never happen, but I would love an appearance slot.

well anet could make it so that lots of fine transmutation stones is used in the process of “absorbing” or “saving” the skins stats etc.

What about transmutation stones? Are they not “smart” enough for you?

them fine transmutation stones is a smart idea by anet however them stones are not smart in my opinion.

in fact them stones are quite stupid really.

besides using fine transmutation stones, perhaps this smart armor system would be better off introduced into the game via a long chain of quests or meta events.

that way, everyone could have a chance to get them all.

perhaps them fine transmutation stones will be required for the rarer skins or stats etc.

anyone else for a smart armor system?

freely change the
- stats
- skins
- runs

of our armor when not in combat!

or if that is too much to ask for, perhaps at a special place some where.

I agree with you completly, the people that say ‘oh there are transmutations stones for this already’ Dont consider that the t stone destroys one of the items. I shouldnt be regrinding skins every time I want to change.

You ought to be able to both restat/reskin your gear and retrait your spec in town for a fee without having to visit a NPC

AND favorites ought to be saved (GW1 templates anyone?)

use the same sytem as DCUO and have styles. But to save em u need to burn a transmute stone. U can change as much as u like without having to dick around with your gear constantly

Taerik.3405:

I agree with you completly, the people that say ‘oh there are transmutations stones for this already’ Dont consider that the t stone destroys one of the items. I shouldnt be regrinding skins every time I want to change.

You ought to be able to both restat/reskin your gear and retrait your spec in town for a fee without having to visit a NPC

AND favorites ought to be saved (GW1 templates anyone?)

yar, this kind of system would actually encourage people to spend more in game currencies!

at the moment i think people would stop spending that much when their bank slots are all filling up.

Lutharr.1035:

use the same sytem as DCUO and have styles. But to save em u need to burn a transmute stone. U can change as much as u like without having to dick around with your gear constantly

aye, using a fine transmute stone to save them sounds fair enough to me!

what is DC universe online system like by the way?

This is extremely similar to an idea I had in the shower a few weeks ago, I never posted it since its such a radical change, but it’s an awesome idea, especially for costumes and hats.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Pros:
- frees up inventory space.

I’m not sure if this is a pro or con in Anet’s eyes, bank/bag space is expandable via gems, this idea won’t help Anet make money.

Zerah.2450:

This is extremely similar to an idea I had in the shower a few weeks ago, I never posted it since its such a radical change, but it’s an awesome idea, especially for costumes and hats.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Pros:
- frees up inventory space.

I’m not sure if this is a pro or con in Anet’s eyes, bank/bag space is expandable via gems, this idea won’t help Anet make money.

true, but one can only expand the bag and bank slots a finite number of times.

with the smart armor system, as long as new skins / stats / runes are being rolled out, them “gotta get them all” players will continue to buy fine transmutation stones to save the armor skins stats runes etc.

There are many things that take bank space aside from extra armor sets…

I like this idea alot, and it really should be in the game. Its a good question why the sPvP doesn’t already work this way, it really should.

Ari.4023:

There are many things that take bank space aside from extra armor sets…

I like this idea alot, and it really should be in the game. Its a good question why the sPvP doesn’t already work this way, it really should.

i think it is easier to do it the current method, for sPvP.

this “smart armor systems” sounds like too much coding at all, possibly too many bugs etc. O_O

very basic tutorial. But ya get the general jist

Lutharr.1035:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bibhccJSszg

very basic tutorial. But ya get the general jist

oooo thanks!
does not look very complicated.

now why can’t anet make some kind of armor system like this for guild wars 2?

how come no one else desires a superior armor system that is capable to saving all the possible skins and stats combination?

Since this game is about “play your way”, I support this, without the limit concept.

Although I don’t have different equipment sets yet, when I get them I just want to have an option of switching playstiles that better fits the moment without wasting time switching my equipment at bank, neither reseting my traits only with a trainer.

DC online of styles is the best and most well implemented system I have so met so far. It makes collecting different amour much more interesting. and in its own a mini game.

This will promote people going to a certain area to capture a certain look thus promoting other less likely visited areas.

I hope Areanet will see this post and add this feature, in fact I am sure this will promote buying of transmution stones.

thanks for the feedback!

yes, one of the purpose of this armor is to promote sales of fine transmutation stones as well.

if players are able to get them all they might be more inclined to buy fine transmutation stones from the gem store.

with new armor skins being released now and then this means stable profit for arenanet in the future perhaps?

Maybe you can have a stone called an Absorption Stone instead for armor instead of one for weapons.

Zahld.4956:

Maybe you can have a stone called an Absorption Stone instead for armor instead of one for weapons.

well that would work too.

Hi,

I actually just wanted to post something similiar, as I found this one.
Sounds very good for me, even though for me, it would suffice if we can just unlock a skin of armor for later use (same way as colours), once we have soulbind that piece.

But with stat combinations sounds good as well. Problem here will be the vertical progression int he future. I guess this could be solved by saving always the highest achieved stat like a Tier 1 stats, Tier 2 stats and so on

Greetings

sternenstaub.8763:

Hi,

I actually just wanted to post something similiar, as I found this one.
Sounds very good for me, even though for me, it would suffice if we can just unlock a skin of armor for later use (same way as colours), once we have soulbind that piece.

But with stat combinations sounds good as well. Problem here will be the vertical progression int he future. I guess this could be solved by saving always the highest achieved stat like a Tier 1 stats, Tier 2 stats and so on

Greetings

if future content includes higher stats then perhaps some quest or fees to unlock the new stats would suffice yes?

i support this, i want this, i want my wardrobe full

Amadan.9451:

i support this, i want this, i want my wardrobe full

aye but with this smart armor system we would not need a ward robe anymore as we can simply absorb all possible armor stats and skins.

I give it 4:1 that Fine Transmutation stones are the number one after-sale money maker.

I like the idea of this. They had a similar system in guild wars 1, where you could just load an armour and skill template without a lot of work. Please make this!!!

Found another thread about this:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Tool-Build-Saving-system-Template/first#post1255526

Come on guys! Keep these threads up so everyone gets to see them and the devs aswell!

Sirendor.1394:

I like the idea of this. They had a similar system in guild wars 1, where you could just load an armour and skill template without a lot of work. Please make this!!!

if we could only save our traits / skills in gw2 as well …

Sirendor.1394:

Found another thread about this:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Tool-Build-Saving-system-Template/first#post1255526

Come on guys! Keep these threads up so everyone gets to see them and the devs aswell!

we need more attention in those topics!

some updates:
edited title.
made it less grindy.

Haha full support from us lowyatians

Sounds like a good idea here. It’ll definitely decrease the demand for bag space/inventory though. Not sure if Anet wants that.

Pikachu.7950:

Sounds like a good idea here. It’ll definitely decrease the demand for bag space/inventory though. Not sure if Anet wants that.

but it will increase demand for fine transmutation stones. i think anet will want that.

No one wants an armor that can save all armor skins and stats?

There will not be a need for armor wardrobe anymore.

It’s a bit old, but I’m gonna necro this because I agree. It would be kitten great. I like to change up my look with various armor and dyes, and it’s hard to test out certain builds and armor without being able to just change it.
I use the PvP testing area for testing stuff, but that’s not always indicative of worthwhile PvE, is it? And I still have to go buy runes and then add them on the armor again… takes so much unnecessary time.

fractalKinesis.8569:

It’s a bit old, but I’m gonna necro this because I agree. It would be kitten great. I like to change up my look with various armor and dyes, and it’s hard to test out certain builds and armor without being able to just change it.
I use the PvP testing area for testing stuff, but that’s not always indicative of worthwhile PvE, is it? And I still have to go buy runes and then add them on the armor again… takes so much unnecessary time.

aye, this system would even benefit sPvP players if properly implement.

No longer they have to limit their builds to the few PvP amulets as they can truly tweak their stats to the max!

I have changed the title and contents slightly to make it affect all equipment, not just armor only but all weapons, armors and trinkets!

I would love to see this implemented… I can say that if we had this already I’d be a much happier person today.

I enjoy trying out new builds and gearing up for them, so much in fact that instead of sticking with any one set for too long I destroy what I had (I need the inventory space, I refuse to carry any more than 3 armor sets) and move on to a new idea and test out different stat allocations via gear and such.

So, although it would hurt the people I end up buying armor from constantly, it would definitely help support my habit (which is expensive and therefore time consuming and very frustrating when I have to start settling for masterwork instead of exotic due to lack of gold).

Now don’t get me wrong, I keep 2 tried and true armor sets of full exotic (and some ascended things), but that 3rd set is constantly being changed.

Rather than an armor that saves the stats, MMOs should really develop two "wearables" on the paper doll for characters -- a visual piece of the slot for what your gear looks like and the stat piece of the slot for what it does. The latter could be swapped in and out, so folks would still need to fight the correct boss / run the correct dungeon / earn the correct currencies to get this gear the same as always. Visually players would be free to look however they wanted without the need to duplicate sets if they want the same look with varying stats, for example.

But this will infringe upon the transmutation stone sales, I guess.
At least WoW’s transmogriphication doesn’t delete the source item. allowing you to use it on multiple pieces of gear (e.g. want your healing set to look the same as your DPS set).

Perfect World Online is probably one of the closest examples of this. Not only does their character creation provide tons of sliders and customization, but their armor system is paired with "Fashion Mode" so you can choose what you look like and override the armor appearance if you want. Kind of like the costumes in GW1. Still not quite a disconnect between armor/character visuals and gear stats, but it’s close.