Guild Wars 2

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

so why should I have to pay for exploring, can you tell me that? I’d gladly pay for travelling because it’s there to let people play with their friends at any time, but eploring via waypointing is just immersionbreaking.

Then walk everywhere, have fun. You don’t see people who backpack across countries crying and complaining wishing they had cars or horses to ride. If you want to explore, go do it. Your lack of having a mount isn’t stopping you. If you want to get around places fast then make sure to use swiftness buffs – that probably makes you faster than a mount would. If you really care so much about immersion/roleplay, then learn to use timeskips. Just assume that each time you use a WP, your character was really walking there that whole time. It’s just like if you’re watching a television show and the characters are in America then 5 minutes later in Europe. Am I going to complain that they didn’t show every single inch of the journey to Europe if nothing important happened during that time? Lolnope. You know what they did? They skipped forward to that point in time, hence a timeskip. Use them.

Nope, I’m anti-mounts. I remember playing WoW and thinking how awesome fast mounts were because I could finally get around the world without it taking forever. Because the only alternative was flightpoints, which also took time to travel.

And then I got flying mounts, which made travel even faster! Awesome, no?

NO. Suddenly, nobody did anything anywhere. People would fly around, spot a node on their mini, drop down, mine it, and fly away. No risk of fighting, no quests, no cooperation, no helping others.

Even with ground mounts, people just ran through areas, ignored mobs, ignored events, quests, & other players. It became boring and anti-social. Mounts made fighting your way from place to place trivial. Especially flying mounts.

Now, GW2 has waypoints, so there is instant travel. But they come with a cost, so they’re not typically used in excess. Players will still run to an area that’s within their current zone. I see running players helping me out with killing stuff, stumbling on DEs, etc.

Also, Tyria was not designed for mounts. Players have run speed signets and other various boosts for travel. Anything more than that and Tyria would get smaller fast. It would trivialize the content.

Some players want mounts just for something end-game to collect. I can see that, but let’s make it mini-pets. A little companion that stands next to you and signifies your accomplishment. Oooh, he has a mini-risen-chicken; he must’ve done that awesome chain in Cursed Shore. Oooh, he has a mini-burning-effigy; he must’ve gotten that achievement in CoF. That kinda thing.

Omg A Hotpocket.7683:

Then walk everywhere, have fun. You don’t see people who backpack across countries crying and complaining wishing they had cars or horses to ride. If you want to explore, go do it. Your lack of having a mount isn’t stopping you. If you want to get around places fast then make sure to use swiftness buffs – that probably makes you faster than a mount would.

you really don’t get me… or don’t want to get me. I don’t want a mount to be anywhere faster. I don’t care about a speedbuff. I want a mount because it’s fun to find them, achieve them, collect them. I also want mounts because they look nice, it’s like having a companion. An addition wouldn’t hurt other people who don’t like mounts, because they still can run everywhere, teleport everywhere.

So I don’t get why people are against them, if mounts
-) would be only cosmetical like the broom
-) couldn’t be summoned in areas where griefing would be possible (Jumpingpuzzles)
-) were implemented, but not flying mounts

fine, make mounts, make them a 20% speed buff that doesn’t stack with anything else, make all skills unusable while mounted and any hit on you while mounted an insta crit and knockdown for being dismounted, now laugh at the people using mounts because they can’t manage to figure out how to
1) waypoint (seriously, it costs less than what you’ll get off of ONE enemy)
2) use swiftness and movement skills

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

you really don’t get me… or don’t want to get me. I don’t want a mount to be anywhere faster. I don’t care about a speedbuff. I want a mount because it’s fun to find them, achieve them, collect them. I also want mounts because they look nice, it’s like having a companion. An addition wouldn’t hurt other people who don’t like mounts, because they still can run everywhere, teleport everywhere.

So I don’t get why people are against them, if mounts
-) would be only cosmetical like the broom
-) couldn’t be summoned in areas where griefing would be possible (Jumpingpuzzles)
-) were implemented, but not flying mounts

If you want mounts JUST for a cosmetic purpose, then that’s fine. I’d be fine with that too. I love collecting things and I’d go to collect them all too. However, you can’t really add something just for the sake of being a collectable. We already have minis for that reason and even those may have a more important purpose when and if polymock is ever finished and implemented.

Guild Wars never had mounts, and GW2 doesn’t have mounts either(a cosmetic broom as part of town clothing really doesn’t count, imo). Plus we all know that eventually people will start begging and crying about how they want to use their mounts, but they have no purpose. AKA, no speed buff. And since you apparently believe – from what I’ve gathered from your posts – that having a mount without a speedbuff will somehow make travelling more fun/immersive, that novelty will most likely wear off very fast. Maybe not for you, but for most people it would. People use things that have purposes.

Then you have to think about how it’d work. It’d probably count as a collectible such as minis so every time you go to deposit collectables you would accidentally deposit it, or it would be equipped under town clothes which would require people to go and switch to their town clothes every time they want to use it. People hate both of those options. How often do you see people travelling via the sonic drill thingy or whatever it’s called? I’ve maybe seen it used once or twice in LA just to show off – no other times.

If they were to introduce mounts, then they would need to have a purpose. If they didn’t have a purpose, most people would complain as soon as the novelty wears off. If they did have a purpose, people would still complain about how it wasn’t needed in the first place and offers advantages to other people blahblahblah.

Then there’s the whole issue of just what mounts would be available and how each sort of race would work with the mount modelling-wise. Could a Charr ride a moa? Could an Asura ride a dolyak? Then you’ve got people complaining that their race is stuck with the lame mount and how it’s so unfair that other races have cooler mounts.

tl;dr: Mounts would be cool, but not smart and worth the trouble to implement.

I support this, also the Capes or Cloaks. (sorry could not help my self LOL)

housing would be better

Knight.1084:

housing would be better

HAHAHA, nice.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

so why should I have to pay for exploring, can you tell me that? I’d gladly pay for travelling because it’s there to let people play with their friends at any time, but eploring via waypointing is just immersionbreaking.

You don’t. That is the beauty of having choices. I choose to use waypoints because I can. Unfortunately, I am paying a few silver each time I use it. You choose to not use waypoints and are paying for it with hindered mobility.

It only seems immersion-breaking because you limit yourself.

I agree with the OP 100%, I also think with the addition of mounts people will explore the world a lot more instead of just waypointing through, getting a much more scenic and adventurous journey through Tyria.

Gerky.6948:

I agree with the OP 100%, I also think with the addition of mounts people will explore the world a lot more instead of just waypointing through, getting a much more scenic and adventurous journey through Tyria.

No they wont.

They will skip content, just like how they skip trash in dungeons. The developers left out mounts because it would be out of place and people would skip events. Respect their wishes. Be content with spiffy toys like the sonic tunneling tool or the riding broom.

I have a pretty sweet Broom i fly around on. I can use to go fly waypoint to waypoint.

Numot.3965:

Gerky.6948:

I agree with the OP 100%, I also think with the addition of mounts people will explore the world a lot more instead of just waypointing through, getting a much more scenic and adventurous journey through Tyria.

No they wont.

They will skip content, just like how they skip trash in dungeons. The developers left out mounts because it would be out of place and people would skip events. Respect their wishes. Be content with spiffy toys like the sonic tunneling tool or the riding broom.

just because you’d do it doesn’t mean everyone else does. I certainly would love the feeling of riding through the country with MY horse. That would be the freedom of choice the guy above is talking about: People who want mounts use mounts, others not.

about the need for a purpose:
-) what’s the purpose of town clothes?
-) what’s the purpose of the broom/tunneling tool (people love those)
-) what’s the purpose of being able to blend out hat & shoulderarmor?

there is none, but it’s a huge deal for a lot of people

Marcus you keep making numbered lists and forgetting to fill the numbers in…

The game isn’t big enough to warrant mounts. The zones are too small. We already have a plethora of swiftness, which many of the MMOs with mounts don’t have.

This game definitely doesn’t need mounts, they would only serve to trivialize the already minimal amount of land-mass and content we have.

Maybe a year down the line when the game gets bigger, then mounts would make sense.

Seras.5702:

NO. Suddenly, nobody did anything anywhere. People would fly around, spot a node on their mini, drop down, mine it, and fly away. No risk of fighting, no quests, no cooperation, no helping others.

Even with ground mounts, people just ran through areas, ignored mobs, ignored events, quests, & other players. It became boring and anti-social. Mounts made fighting your way from place to place trivial. Especially flying mounts.

Some players want mounts just for something end-game to collect. I can see that, but let’s make it mini-pets. A little companion that stands next to you and signifies your accomplishment. Oooh, he has a mini-risen-chicken; he must’ve done that awesome chain in Cursed Shore. Oooh, he has a mini-burning-effigy; he must’ve gotten that achievement in CoF. That kinda thing.

1. Even without mounts I’m running through things I don’t feel like bothering with, so I’m not really sure that’s a valid point, especially when you consider that even a lot of group content on WoW was easily solo’d whereas most here is, well. Not.

2. Some people like to collect minis. Some people like to collect armor. I don’t personally care for minis, and while I love hoarding armor I can’t be bothered to spend so much time grinding dungeons I’m not fond of (not a big PVE fan, tbh; the first couple runs might be fun but after that? Nah) for one set. Why NOT mounts, why not purely cosmetic mounts? Everything about this game is gorgeous, I’d love to see how mounts were implemented. What armor they’d get, what unique animations we might see, etc.

I don’t want to see them come with some buff that would make them necessary. I’d rather see them become an option. I can choose to play without ever waypointing if I’d like, so it’d be equally fair that someone could avoid ever using mounts if they wanted.

I’ve pointed out that they’re not lorebreaking, and it was said once upon a time that the devs had considered mounts for a while. Peoples’ main reason for not wanting them, though?

“OMG NO, WOW HAZ MOWNTS =(((”

Just because mounts ruined WoW doesn’t mean they would do the same to GW2. They couldn’t even be implemented in the same manner that cause so many issues in WoW because the games aren’t similar enough.

edited because emotey faces make me rage uncontrollable ._.

Fievre.4510:

Peoples’ main reason for not wanting them, though?

“OMG NO, WOW HAZ MOWNTS =(((”

Just because mounts ruined WoW doesn’t mean they would do the same to GW2. They couldn’t even be implemented in the same manner that cause so many issues in WoW because the games aren’t similar enough.

That’s the sad truth. This and “we don’t need them because we have waypoints”.

we also have armorsets, we don’t need townclothes
we also have 5 races, we don’t need a 6th race
we have a few haircuts, we don’t need more

come on guys, everything that brings more variety to existing mechanics and isn’t breaking any balance (cosmetics) is good for the game.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

so why should I have to pay for exploring, can you tell me that? I’d gladly pay for travelling because it’s there to let people play with their friends at any time, but eploring via waypointing is just immersionbreaking.

You pretty much have to pay for everything in this stupid game, and now they are starting to nerf most the mobs in orr so they don’t even drop loot, soon orr is gonna be empty and this game will be to, might as well quit asking for crap from this stupid game cause even if you get it they will post it on the kittening gem store for some insane price and it will be temporary and then eventually be nerfed like everything else. RUN WHILE YOU CAN, THERE’S BETTER GAMES COMING OUT SOON AND WE DON’T NEED THIS STRESS.

Rama.6439:

RUN WHILE YOU CAN, THERE’S BETTER GAMES COMING OUT SOON AND WE DON’T NEED THIS STRESS.

see, riding would be much more fun than running, all the other games you’re running towards will have mounts too

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Fievre.4510:

Peoples’ main reason for not wanting them, though?

“OMG NO, WOW HAZ MOWNTS =(((”

Just because mounts ruined WoW doesn’t mean they would do the same to GW2. They couldn’t even be implemented in the same manner that cause so many issues in WoW because the games aren’t similar enough.

That’s the sad truth. This and “we don’t need them because we have waypoints”.

“because every other MMO has them”, “I don’t want to spend money for waypoints” and “Waypoints stifle exploration” are not good reasons to have them when the game has more problems that need to be fixed. This game does not need more kitten to process.

Seriously…. If you guys refuse to use waypoints (that you must unlock via exploration) because you don’t have enough money (which can be earned through doing anything), it is your fault for limiting yourselves.

Rama.6439:

THERE’S BETTER GAMES COMING OUT SOON AND WE DON’T NEED THIS STRESS.

Off you go then, and take all the other whiners who want a WoW 2.0 with you.

I want a dolyak mount. That’s it.

Zacchary.6183:

“because every other MMO has them”, “I don’t want to spend money for waypoints” and “Waypoints stifle exploration” are not good reasons to have them when the game has more problems that need to be fixed. This game does not need more kitten to process.

Seriously…. If you guys refuse to use waypoints (that you must unlock via exploration) because you don’t have enough money (which can be earned through doing anything), it is your fault for limiting yourselves.

1.) not because every other game has them but because it was fun to collect and use them in other games. There are good working systems in other games and just because WoW has it isn’t a reason that something is bad.

2.) I have no problem to travel via waypoint, but why not having both? It’s an addition. It’s something that could be completely ignored by you guys but still you pretend to cut it out because you personally don’t want it and don’t care for others.

Rama.6439:

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

so why should I have to pay for exploring, can you tell me that? I’d gladly pay for travelling because it’s there to let people play with their friends at any time, but eploring via waypointing is just immersionbreaking.

You pretty much have to pay for everything in this stupid game, and now they are starting to nerf most the mobs in orr so they don’t even drop loot, soon orr is gonna be empty and this game will be to, might as well quit asking for crap from this stupid game cause even if you get it they will post it on the kittening gem store for some insane price and it will be temporary and then eventually be nerfed like everything else. RUN WHILE YOU CAN, THERE’S BETTER GAMES COMING OUT SOON AND WE DON’T NEED THIS STRESS.

Leave then, and have fun with your next locust game.

Mhmm that’s one angry comment. What ‘better’ games are you talking about? Neverwinter, Elder scrolls online? Sorry, but these games are a total joke as far as I’ve seen them.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Zacchary.6183:

“because every other MMO has them”, “I don’t want to spend money for waypoints” and “Waypoints stifle exploration” are not good reasons to have them when the game has more problems that need to be fixed. This game does not need more kitten to process.

Seriously…. If you guys refuse to use waypoints (that you must unlock via exploration) because you don’t have enough money (which can be earned through doing anything), it is your fault for limiting yourselves.

1.) not because every other game has them but because it was fun to collect and use them in other games. There are good working systems in other games and just because WoW has it isn’t a reason that something is bad.

2.) I have no problem to travel via waypoint, but why not having both? It’s an addition. It’s something that could be completely ignored by you guys but still you pretend to cut it out because you personally don’t want it and don’t care for others.

Other games have them because there is usually a lack of travel otherwise. The reason why people keep saying WoW is because WoW set the standard for MMOs and their mount system makes up for the severe lack of travel. Believe me when I say there major absence of travel aside from mounts. Seriously, most classes have some sort of passive that gives them a 25% running speed and some traits and skills that grant swiftness.

We can’t ignore them if you guys plan to parade around the big cities which some of you plan to do anyways.

So why don’t you care for other’s wishes too? I mean, saying “you don’t want <blank> because you don’t care about others” is being hypocritical since you don’t care about our wishes either. Some of us would like a better game before Anet adds even more collectable crap.

Nobody wants it because it is purely cosmetic and does nothing to make the game better other than give people something else to show off. Whatever buff it’ll grant would probably be unstackable and inferior to the buffs that professions can already apply to themselves.

I don’t know why none of you understand that. Wanting mounts for the sake of having them is not a good enough reason to get them. It is also selfish when you start justifying your cause by antagonizing the opposition.

This game needs to be fixed not loaded down with more crap.

This sounds like a great fun. I fully agree to be purely cosmetic. I need mounts, indeed. I need the epic view of 100 men running on battlemounts in WvW with no speed boosts. Hope to see them in-game with the upcoming expansion!

Zacchary.6183:

1.) Other games have them because there is usually a lack of travel otherwise. The reason why people keep saying WoW is because WoW set the standard for MMOs and their mount system makes up for the severe lack of travel. Believe me when I say there major absence of travel aside from mounts. Seriously, most classes have some sort of passive that gives them a 25% running speed and some traits and skills that grant swiftness.

2.) We can’t ignore them if you guys plan to parade around the big cities which some of you plan to do anyways.

3.) So why don’t you care for other’s wishes too? I mean, saying “you don’t want <blank> because you don’t care about others” is being hypocritical since you don’t care about our wishes either. Some of us would like a better game before Anet adds even more collectable crap.

4.) Nobody wants it because it is purely cosmetic and does nothing to make the game better other than give people something else to show off. Whatever buff it’ll grant would probably be unstackable and inferior to the buffs that professions can already apply to themselves.

5.) I don’t know why none of you understand that. Wanting mounts for the sake of having them is not a good enough reason to get them. It is also selfish when you start justifying your cause by antagonizing the opposition.

6.) This game needs to be fixed not loaded down with more crap.

1.) and again you’re arguing with travel speed. Haven’t I made it clear that this is not the reason why I and many others want mounts? If this would be the only reason, then WoW wouldn’t have hundreds of different mounts but only 8 or so (for each race). People like to show what they’ve accomplished. Armor is one step, but you can only equip a certain number of gear at once. Then you’ve got the weapon. A further option in other games are mounts.

2.) With the same argument I could say: NO to different dyes. Dyes shouldn’t be in the game because it hurts my eyes when all of those pink or yellow-green characters dance in the streets. Wait, dancing guys next to the bank… it’s bad too, scrap that. Let’s also get rid of Legendaries, Weaponskins, Townclothes – I hate that boxing-gloves, different armorsets which look too… well see what I mean?

3.) I should respect the wishes of people who are against options? O_o

4.) nobody want’s it because it’s purely cosmetic? Like townclothes, legendaries, dyes, emotes, dances, minis,…. right, nobody wants such a thing

5.) You haven’t given me a reason to not implement mounts but “it hurts my eyes”

6.) So they should stop doing anything that makes the game more immersive or gives the game more to work towards to just in order to fix… what especially? Dungeons? Then you have the dungeon-team who takes care of that, they aren’t responsible for mounts. Or profession-balance? You have the PvP doing that. Or what??

I support the addition of mounts, or rather the addition of mounting. Of other players, that is. Since back items are all the rage this could take the form of a Riding Saddle item, which if equipped allows another player to mount you (with your permission, of course!).

To encourage teamwork, and because unmounted players moving faster would be completely immersion-breaking for me personally, players in a mounted pair could have their weapon skills replaced by five identical Giddy Up! skills. This would grant a 66% move speed bonus for five seconds if both players activate the skill simultaneously (25s cd), giving a fully co-ordinated mount and rider team double the speed bonus of a swiftness stacking loner. And imagine how it would shake up the WvW meta!

I think this would simultaneously satisfy those who feel the need to mount things, and those who don’t want a bunch of mounts cluttering up their screen. Please discuss.

If a mount system is implemented I would really like to see more of it instead of just riding, just as we have weapons and unique powers under water and other interesting environment weapons, but also have powers that can knock you out of the mounting. When mounted we should have our own weapons and powers/utilities/Elites depending on profession. In WvW it would be awesome to see players riding into battle on the ground, air or even under water, like a real war.

Of course they would need to balance it, so there are strategic reasons for mounting or not mount. ++1 for this post.

P.S. Casters should be able to summon their own mounts or transform into them this would be a PLUS for many!

Make mounts 33% movement speed equal to swiftness, the mount lovers get their mounts, the people against it don’t feel too bad about the situation and all in all it’s purely cosmetic.

DrWhom.3105:

I support the addition of mounts, or rather the addition of mounting. Of other players, that is. Since back items are all the rage this could take the form of a Riding Saddle item, which if equipped allows another player to mount you (with your permission, of course!).

To encourage teamwork, and because unmounted players moving faster would be completely immersion-breaking for me personally, players in a mounted pair could have their weapon skills replaced by five identical Giddy Up! skills. This would grant a 66% move speed bonus for five seconds if both players activate the skill simultaneously (25s cd), giving a fully co-ordinated mount and rider team double the speed bonus of a swiftness stacking loner. And imagine how it would shake up the WvW meta!

I think this would simultaneously satisfy those who feel the need to mount things, and those who don’t want a bunch of mounts cluttering up their screen. Please discuss.

hahaha behold the mighty riders of Rohan
http://www.werder.de/media/images/fussball/profis/saison_2012_13/630/teamhuckepack630.jpg

It’s obvious, isn’t it? The PERFECT spot for mounts in the game: The Dominion of Winds. A whole region west of Lion’s Arch kept totally separate from the rest of the world. The Tengu bird-people are the keepers of this land. THIS is the slate upon which ANet can practice land and air mounted travel and even combat without mucking up the rest of the game.

No Asura have previously been allowed in, so there are no Asuran Gates or Waypoints. Jade and Amber Moas are used as land mounts to get swiftly from place to place. Other large winged creatures capable of flight carry people even farther and faster.

No jumping puzzles exist here yet because the land hasn’t been introduced into the game yet. So they won’t be ruined by flying critters capable of transporting their riders to the top. (If any are desired, ANet can put them inside caverns.)

This is an avian creature SANCTUARY, and every birdbrain here knows it. They will NOT exit the region. (If a character aims to fly over the wall, his mount veers away with an angry screech.)

A fine place for ANet to experiment and tweak. A big battle arena if they want to do that. (But don’t forget the leisurely explorers… maybe they can opt out like the Costume Brawlers leaving the game?) I’m sure ANet can come up with some sort of story background for any events they want to have there. Different Factions of Tengu warring in the skies? Who knows. But as a walled off, intentionally isolated area, the game designers could try things and change them with no consequences to the rest of the game world.

Then MAYBE, someday, when they feel comfortable enough with how mounts and flying mounts will interact with the rest of the gaming environment, they may even open the gates and let some escape into the world.

Problem solved. (Except perhaps for the issue of OVERFLOW servers in the Dominion of Winds).

(Moderators – please do NOT merge this with the thousands of other “I want mounts!” threads. I think you’ll agree that it stands on its own as a new, different of suggestion.)

Zacchary.6183:

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Fievre.4510:

Peoples’ main reason for not wanting them, though?

“OMG NO, WOW HAZ MOWNTS =(((”

Just because mounts ruined WoW doesn’t mean they would do the same to GW2. They couldn’t even be implemented in the same manner that cause so many issues in WoW because the games aren’t similar enough.

That’s the sad truth. This and “we don’t need them because we have waypoints”.

“because every other MMO has them”, “I don’t want to spend money for waypoints” and “Waypoints stifle exploration” are not good reasons to have them when the game has more problems that need to be fixed. This game does not need more kitten to process.

Seriously…. If you guys refuse to use waypoints (that you must unlock via exploration) because you don’t have enough money (which can be earned through doing anything), it is your fault for limiting yourselves.

A bit late to the party, but um.

I don’t think not being able to afford waypoints was one of the points I made. I mean, I could be wrong, but I’m prettyyy sure.

An amusing read!
“…his mount veers away with an angry screech” — hilarious!

Flying mounts would not need to trivialize jumping puzzles.

Write code that says, “if player has ridden a mount within X meters of a jumping puzzle, achievement and chest reward is not granted.”

I can amuse that this is one of the best ideas for mounts so far. Hope Anet to see it asap!

Waypoints are a lot better. There is no need for mounts in this game. Besides you already have a flying broom.

It’s been suggested by a number of people in other threads .

I think flying would be fun, but I still don’t see why mounts, personally.

+1
Good good, we are on the right track.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

1.) and again you’re arguing with travel speed. Haven’t I made it clear that this is not the reason why I and many others want mounts? If this would be the only reason, then WoW wouldn’t have hundreds of different mounts but only 8 or so (for each race). People like to show what they’ve accomplished. Armor is one step, but you can only equip a certain number of gear at once. Then you’ve got the weapon. A further option in other games are mounts.

2.) With the same argument I could say: NO to different dyes. Dyes shouldn’t be in the game because it hurts my eyes when all of those pink or yellow-green characters dance in the streets. Wait, dancing guys next to the bank… it’s bad too, scrap that. Let’s also get rid of Legendaries, Weaponskins, Townclothes – I hate that boxing-gloves, different armorsets which look too… well see what I mean?

3.) I should respect the wishes of people who are against options? O_o

4.) nobody want’s it because it’s purely cosmetic? Like townclothes, legendaries, dyes, emotes, dances, minis,…. right, nobody wants such a thing

5.) You haven’t given me a reason to not implement mounts but “it hurts my eyes”

6.) So they should stop doing anything that makes the game more immersive or gives the game more to work towards to just in order to fix… what especially? Dungeons? Then you have the dungeon-team who takes care of that, they aren’t responsible for mounts. Or profession-balance? You have the PvP doing that. Or what??

1.) Umm… just listed your arguments in a previous comment. They have no good points to offer. :I

Second, WoW has so many mounts because they can easily implement them. There is NOTHING to travel the massive continents at a good pace unless you have the REALLY good mounts. Of course they would make more and better mounts. The difference between WoW and GW2 is that traveling is easy enough through waypoints and speed buffs that Mounts in this game would be cosmetic. It would just be additional content. While you parade around on your dolyak to Jormag, I already have a head start in killing it because….. I used the waypoint.

2.) That’s great…. sept they are already implemented them and they are already part of the thousands of collectible items. Did you know you can collect dyes too? Weapons are another thing to collect. Amg we also have minis! Rangers collect pets! You can also collect materials for Crafting! Thieves collect tears from the QQ on their forum!

According to your logic we might as well get rid of those too. All of these suck because they make me complain too much. Twisting words is fun, isn’t it?

3.) When you ask people to respect your’s…. yep.

4.) Twist my words more pl0x. I never said nobody wants cosmetics. Not alot of people really want more collectibles either.

5.) You’ve twisted my words so much that you’ve even taken it a step further. Don’t shove words into my mouth.

6.) Oh yeah, getting items and then keeping them is immersive. Adding more collectible things =/= adding immersion.

And since we are on the subject of “immersion” I will tell you how immersed I got without the use of mounts. You know about the tree in the middle of the road in Kessix? How about some krait in the Jungle maps sometimes glitch out as they swim through the water? It almost looks like they are wearing capes. You know that everything you see is a massive clump of prerendered shapes that have not been made into one object and then cropped so that the only thing the game would be registering is what you see and not the kitten underneath it? Did you know its possible to tele into the floor because of it? Did you know it also kills fps? Did you know that culling doesn’t really do much to save fps because, on top of the game telling you that something exists in that spot, it is also trying to hide it? The HUD is loaded and there is no way to free up any space. Guild Management tools are so bad the only way a guild could prosper is if they used programs outside GW2. As a thief, some of my utilities are somewhat useless, Scorpion Wire being one. It gets Out of Range at point blank, Obstructed in open fields and if there is a tiny groove in the ground, Scorpion Wire fails to pull. I am also wondering why I am seeing Larcenous Strike (s/d 3-skill) on top of my Pistol Whip (s/p 3-skill). You wouldn’t know all of this though, because you don’t explore enough.

Mounts will add 0 immersion whether you believe it or not.

Flying could work, hey we’ve got land combat and underwater combat why not flying combat?

I suffered from a graphics bug for a long time that occasionally made water (or the water/land border) invisible. It was like flying.

So I expect that flying would feel pretty much exactly like diving under water.

Think about this: air combat would be exactly as much fun as underwater combat.

Cloud.7613:

Make mounts 33% movement speed equal to swiftness, the mount lovers get their mounts, the people against it don’t feel too bad about the situation and all in all it’s purely cosmetic.

I suggest a 10% movement boost. Permanent swiftness would be a bit to OP.
I really would like to see mounts in the WvW aspect of the game, adding skills for mounted players. This would add to the strategy element of the game.
For example: a mounted charge against people that are trying to defend a gap in a castle. Also, I don’t think flying mounts are a good idea, unless they are rewarded for gaining one of the achievements in WvW or giving as a WvW rank ability (unlocked with ability points).

Normal mounts should be accessable for everyone, at any level, for a low cost.
Special mount skins could be added in the gem store (Wargs, Dolyaks, Minotaurs, King Boars etc).

Nice idea, I would like mounts in WvW though, once they release some bigger and new maps. No this wouldn’t mess with the movement speed: give them a 10% speed boost and if they are under effect of swiftness the normal speed boost drops and they get the normal 33% speed boost. The only thing I think this would add would be more versatile combat, more interesting viewpoints and a lot of fun when you can fight mounted (add a few new weapons with their own weaponskills, only useable from a mount).

For example:
- for a melee class: a spear or lance
- for a caster class: a battlestaff
- for a adventurer class: they can continue to use rifle (engineer), longbow (ranger) and shortbow (thief), but each with new unique mounted skills.

Sirendor.1394:

Nice idea, I would like mounts in WvW though

I was about to say “Ehh… but then you’ll be able to ignore castle walls”. But then I remembered the focus of my own idea is a place for ANet to safely iron out the mechanics of flight (and flying combat) without impacting the rest of the world. So who knows? Maybe they’ll find a solution to that as well, and you’ll eventually have your wish.

All in all, though, I don’t expect to see flight enter the game in general until GW3. GW2 was not designed with that in mind. ANet should consider the Dominion of Winds an opportunity to beta-test the mechanics. A game within a game. (I have NO IDEA how City of Heroes worked flight – never played it.) But the community is here. Take advantage of it in a zone that doesn’t impact the rest of the world.

I used to play a lot of flight sims. I’m not picturing players hovering above, casting spells and shooting arrows every direction. I’m thinking constant jinking and movement to get your target in front of you. Seems to me that’d be easier to program and learn. (Your flight combat skill bar would be different with different mounts, just as when you pick up a different weapon. Maybe even a two-seater that WOULD allow return fire in other directions.)

We will have mini mounts.

I hope I don’t catch my Charr riding a Moa, not when there are sweet steam-powered hot-rods back at the Black Citadel!
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Onshidesigns.1069:

Perfect Imbalance vs Balance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w

Appropriate video. ANet should take this existing game and community and use the Dominion of Winds to SAFELY test whether or not mounts can be added without completely unbalancing everything. No changes need be made to GW2, but the groundwork can be set for GW3.