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Posted by: Joe.4178

Joe.4178

Shatter mesmer outnumbered series 6. Keeping this vid short and sweet, with 4 Trillmatic™ vs 4 Riot Team [RIOT] + 5 lv80s. Riot: 1 mesmer, 1 necromancer, 1 warrior, 1 engineer + 5 Randoms: 1 Thief, 1 elementalist, 1 mesmer, 1 guardian, 1 engineer

This video is not intended to make fun of [RIOT], its just a rare opportunity of fighting a gold league server guild. So before all the flame/trolling, they’re great guys and put up a good fight.

This video is also for those who always assume “If this is the case, I would tell him to stop showing off against pugs from low tier servers and try performing this feat against more skilled and/or coordinated individuals.” – Yamsandjams.3267

Many people always assume just because we’re a low tier server, everyone from low tier server is bad. This video is to counter that irritating statement.

Thanks again for the fight [RIOT], you guys were awesome.

Build is in the video if anyone wants it.

-tM- Trillmatic
NSP Colorful Charr Engineer & Mesmer: Bamf Joe
WvW Outnumbered: https://www.youtube.com/BamfJoe0425

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Posted by: bladeofky.3067

bladeofky.3067

A link to the video would be most appreciated

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Posted by: Joe.4178

Joe.4178

oh shoot lmao im so tired from roaming/recording that I forgot to put a link xD

-tM- Trillmatic
NSP Colorful Charr Engineer & Mesmer: Bamf Joe
WvW Outnumbered: https://www.youtube.com/BamfJoe0425

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Posted by: Nausicca.6038

Nausicca.6038

Well, that was fast O.O
Guardian + shatter mesmer is already very strong, but with another guardian, it becomes unstoppable !

Did you run into [mate] lately? They seem to have a pretty solid group too.

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Posted by: Joe.4178

Joe.4178

Well, that was fast O.O
Guardian + shatter mesmer is already very strong, but with another guardian, it becomes unstoppable !

Did you run into [mate] lately? They seem to have a pretty solid group too.

Yep shoebox’s guild is very skilled, was awesome fighting them in GvG 2v2 & 3v3, still looking forward to doing 5v5’s with them.

-tM- Trillmatic
NSP Colorful Charr Engineer & Mesmer: Bamf Joe
WvW Outnumbered: https://www.youtube.com/BamfJoe0425

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

Good job, was a really nice watch.

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Posted by: Warlord of Chaos.7845

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After all this time It looks like RIOT has some fun fights finally (after saying there wasn’t a lot of fun fights in t1). Im sure they will want plenty of rematches. Also if you didn’t know, check [mate] is the reformed Basic [BS]. Also also, I can see you again with Eotm now yay <3

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Posted by: MIrra.3604

MIrra.3604

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego.

What is up with this passive-aggressive kitten?

Isn’t that part of being a “roaming” group? Running around the map looking for good fights and always being aware of your environment? You guys just basically failed roaming 101.

By the way, wasn’t RIOT invited to beta test EOTM? You guys should know the map layout like the back of your hands (knowing which direction your enemies will likely come from).

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Posted by: Sorrow.7384

Sorrow.7384

Where are the other vids of us beating you earlier that day?

I would really like to see the one where you mass invis’d and I pulled you and your warrior off the edge.

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Posted by: Qaelyn.7612

Qaelyn.7612

Wow a kittening contest between two PvP teams. Who ever would have thought that would happen?

Seriously, I doubt anyone cares either way. Really.

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Posted by: Shu.6981

Shu.6981

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego.

What is up with this passive-aggressive kitten?

Isn’t that part of being a “roaming” group? Running around the map looking for good fights and always being aware of your environment? You guys just basically failed roaming 101.

By the way, wasn’t RIOT invited to beta test EOTM? You guys should know the map layout like the back of your hands (knowing which direction your enemies will likely come from).

Valid points. RIOT got beat there for sure. All is fair in the world of roaming. Should have re-grouped and re-engaged away from the champ.

Sorry, I was just somewhat put off by this guy with a great video series that has finely edited videos with wonderful tips, and then suddenly the next video in the series is a completely unedited “outnumbered vs RIOT…but not trolling”.

Because i’m the one who suggested to him that he should try making shorter videos. Joe likes to provide content within a week/two week time frame. It just so happened that we only got one good clip within 2 weeks of roaming. (tM/Holy kinda took a small break so we haven’t really been roaming together, maybe as duos only but not 5 mans.)

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Posted by: Reido Kyuuten.4709

Reido Kyuuten.4709

“Team SALTY loses, makes excuses”
~Teeheeviospy

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego. Of course looking forward to more fights with you lower tier guys in the future! Absolutely thrilled that EOTM was implemented with the cross-server design!

so they lost 9v5 then, still bad. or are you just pointing out their mental handicaps and inability to adjust or see a group without stealth inc?

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Posted by: K U T M.4539

K U T M.4539

Well, that was fast O.O
Guardian + shatter mesmer is already very strong, but with another guardian, it becomes unstoppable !

Did you run into [mate] lately? They seem to have a pretty solid group too.

Yep shoebox’s guild is very skilled, was awesome fighting them in GvG 2v2 & 3v3, still looking forward to doing 5v5’s with them.

It’s not my guild, everybody’s equal in it :P Just clarifying haha.

Can’t wait to have some 5v5’s with you guys, and awesome vid Joe.

Basic [BS] NSP/Mag

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Posted by: losieight.4807

losieight.4807

It’s not my guild, everybody’s equal in it :P Just clarifying haha.

Can’t wait to have some 5v5’s with you guys, and awesome vid Joe.

Equal, huh? I think not, friend. (See Signature Pls)

On topic, good video tM and Riot looked really squishy from watching that video :P. Hopefully we encounter you guys in EoTM, too.

Died with Basic [BS]

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Meh, it was a good gank. We got them back later half asleep on a bridge. That’s the way it goes. Sometimes you gank, sometimes you get ganked.

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Posted by: Joe.4178

Joe.4178

Good job, was a really nice watch.

Tyvm, thanks for the feedback.

After all this time It looks like RIOT has some fun fights finally (after saying there wasn’t a lot of fun fights in t1). Im sure they will want plenty of rematches. Also if you didn’t know, check [mate] is the reformed Basic [BS]. Also also, I can see you again with Eotm now yay <3

Yes sirr, we can put on big boy pants and go against gold league server guilds now wooo. Yeah we fought against [Mate], they’re a tough group to fight. Idk about eotm though, we’ve been just trying to find spots that are good to setup 5v5’s w/o people interfering, npcs, silly buffs, turrets, hilly areas.

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego. Of course looking forward to more fights with you lower tier guys in the future! Absolutely thrilled that EOTM was implemented with the cross-server design!

Indeed, hopefully we can fight each other on the battlefield soon!

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego.

What is up with this passive-aggressive kitten?

Isn’t that part of being a “roaming” group? Running around the map looking for good fights and always being aware of your environment? You guys just basically failed roaming 101.

By the way, wasn’t RIOT invited to beta test EOTM? You guys should know the map layout like the back of your hands (knowing which direction your enemies will likely come from).

Its fine, no need for hostility on this thread. ^^

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego.

What is up with this passive-aggressive kitten?

Isn’t that part of being a “roaming” group? Running around the map looking for good fights and always being aware of your environment? You guys just basically failed roaming 101.

By the way, wasn’t RIOT invited to beta test EOTM? You guys should know the map layout like the back of your hands (knowing which direction your enemies will likely come from).

Valid points. RIOT got beat there for sure. All is fair in the world of roaming. Should have re-grouped and re-engaged away from the champ.

Sorry, I was just somewhat put off by this guy with a great video series that has finely edited videos with wonderful tips, and then suddenly the next video in the series is a completely unedited “outnumbered vs RIOT…but not trolling”.

I apologize for the inconvenience of video being too short and lacking quality. Thought that if there was some nice gameplay in there like my 3rd vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgGyZMLK_Y), that it’d be enjoyable despite music being on repeat for 15mins, but I guess not. Due to balancing work, school, gym, games, I haven’t been able to obtain quality clips yet. Being dropped into bronze league server matchups also doesn’t help either, its like a ghost town down here. Nonetheless, I shouldn’t let all these obstacles get in the way of making quality videos. I’ll definitely try my best to improve for the upcoming videos for sure!

Where are the other vids of us beating you earlier that day?

I would really like to see the one where you mass invis’d and I pulled you and your warrior off the edge.

I have the full 13min clip of it, where you pulled me off after we fought your group, pushing back another +9 man group, then re-engaging w/o cd’s except mass inv, and getting pulled off by you; Then getting zerged down for another 10 mins after our last engage. I will gladly upload it for you, but idk what it would prove or what kind of message you’re trying to convey to everyone. Pulling people off of cliffs is something elementary level, anyone can do it, so its something you shouldn’t be too proud of. Of course I fall off after I’m out of dodge rolls after fighting the other group, but nonetheless gg with the pull.

By the way, wasn’t RIOT invited to beta test EOTM? You guys should know the map layout like the back of your hands (knowing which direction your enemies will likely come from).

Funny how that works, isn’kitten

Fun vid Joe x

Thanks, appreciate it! ^^

-tM- Trillmatic
NSP Colorful Charr Engineer & Mesmer: Bamf Joe
WvW Outnumbered: https://www.youtube.com/BamfJoe0425

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Posted by: Joe.4178

Joe.4178

Well, that was fast O.O
Guardian + shatter mesmer is already very strong, but with another guardian, it becomes unstoppable !

Did you run into [mate] lately? They seem to have a pretty solid group too.

Yep shoebox’s guild is very skilled, was awesome fighting them in GvG 2v2 & 3v3, still looking forward to doing 5v5’s with them.

It’s not my guild, everybody’s equal in it :P Just clarifying haha.

Can’t wait to have some 5v5’s with you guys, and awesome vid Joe.

You guys are too funny, still excited for our 5v5’s! Its just that we don’t ever have enough people on at the right time to do it..

It’s not my guild, everybody’s equal in it :P Just clarifying haha.

Can’t wait to have some 5v5’s with you guys, and awesome vid Joe.

Equal, huh? I think not, friend. (See Signature Pls)

On topic, good video tM and Riot looked really squishy from watching that video :P. Hopefully we encounter you guys in EoTM, too.

Yeah I hope so too, just don’t push me off cliffs haha.

Meh, it was a good gank. We got them back later half asleep on a bridge. That’s the way it goes. Sometimes you gank, sometimes you get ganked.

I respect that you play the wvw role to win, but snide remarks like these are meaningless. I deleted that clip of you guys steamrolling us with 3x-5x our numbers on the bridge. I understand that theres always ganking, but when you gank with those numbers then say you steamroll us “half asleep,” then thats nonsense. Also, you’re telling me you got ganked with half your numbers + guard leech/vit/25 stacks in 2 mins and didn’t see a Big bright pink charr, bright pink norn, bright pink human, bright pink asura, when you were able to go to eotm beta. I’m sorry, but your statement just collapses on itself, idk why you would make such snide remarks. Other then that good gank with those numbers, I applaud you on your effort anyways.

-tM- Trillmatic
NSP Colorful Charr Engineer & Mesmer: Bamf Joe
WvW Outnumbered: https://www.youtube.com/BamfJoe0425

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Posted by: Bacon.4918

Bacon.4918

I love seeing Riot here making excuses about numbers and NPCs, meanwhile they run from any fight that isn’t 5v1. Nice video Joe!

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

I don’t think we had 3 to 5 times your numbers I think you weren’t paying attention and got rolled. It can happen to anyone, it’s no big deal.

That’s what happened to us. We weren’t paying attention, you got a good hit on our guys and then the pugs were easy kills. This sort of thing happens.

No one can that hit away from you, it was a good hit.

I also recognize that you want to make a name for yourself and prove that you can “hang with the big boys” or whatever. That’s cool man.

So you ganked us on a champ mob and posted a video of it.

Is it entertaining? Yeah, I’d say so.

But it’s just a gank video.

Also I didn’t go to EOTM beta.

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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

Its kinda lame how in the introduction to the video Joe gives props/respect to RIOT and then they come in to the thread and start flaming him…

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Its kinda lame how in the introduction to the video Joe gives props/respect to RIOT and then they come in to the thread and start flaming him…

I don’t think he actually respects us I think he thinks we’re trash and is too afraid to say it.

I mean if I legit 4v9 someone I’m gonna think they’re bad, obviously that’s what he thinks now too.

If he thinks this was a legit fight where we were ready to go and fought our best and they just overcame the odds with epic skill then one must conclude that he thinks we are inferior to him and he should just say that.

I could live with that.

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Posted by: Sorrow.7384

Sorrow.7384

Its kinda lame how in the introduction to the video Joe gives props/respect to RIOT and then they come in to the thread and start flaming him…

I’m not flaming Joe myself. I think they are fine players, but if his intent was to give true props then he would have posted all of our skirmishes and not the only one they won.

I get it though, you don’t post videos of your team losing, but this is the only engagement we lost against them so far and he posted a video of it.

About the pull off the cliff video, I just wanted to see it because it was funny

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Posted by: EnderzShadow.2506

EnderzShadow.2506

Its kinda lame how in the introduction to the video Joe gives props/respect to RIOT and then they come in to the thread and start flaming him…

I don’t think he actually respects us I think he thinks we’re trash and is too afraid to say it.

I mean if I legit 4v9 someone I’m gonna think they’re bad, obviously that’s what he thinks now too.

If he thinks this was a legit fight where we were ready to go and fought our best and they just overcame the odds with epic skill then one must conclude that he thinks we are inferior to him and he should just say that.

I could live with that.

I know one thing’s for certain, after the remarks from RIOT, you no longer have my respect.

“You’re talking to my guy all wrong.

It’s the wrong tone." -Christopher Walken

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Well I don’t need it.

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Posted by: EnderzShadow.2506

EnderzShadow.2506

That’s obvious.

But you care.

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Not about you.

/15characters

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Posted by: SonOfKrypton.4357

SonOfKrypton.4357

I also recognize that you want to make a name for yourself and prove that you can “hang with the big boys” or whatever. That’s cool man.

If that’s what was going on here, love, he’d just trait for Prismatic Understanding and be done with it.

I personally give huge props to Joe for not running FotM faceroll spec that actually has some risks involved if he messes up.

Thanks for the vid, Joe! <3

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

If that’s what was going on here, love, he’d just trait for Prismatic Understanding and be done with it.

I personally give huge props to Joe for not running FotM faceroll spec that actually has some risks involved if he messes up.

Thanks for the vid, Joe! <3

Read the OP he says he wanted to show that they could hang with upper tier guilds. He says he wanted to show that not everyone from lower tier is bad. Those are his words, not mine.

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Posted by: SonOfKrypton.4357

SonOfKrypton.4357

Read the OP he says he wanted to show that they could hang with upper tier guilds. He says he wanted to show that not everyone from lower tier is bad. Those are his words, not mine.

You’re twisting his words, sugar.

How is saying that not everyone for lower tier is bad equal to saying “he wanted to show that they could hang with upper tier guilds.”

I don’t know where you got the assumption that the population of a server is directly proportional to the skill level of the players considering [RIOT] tries to recruit players who beat them from lower tier servers. Even offering to pay for their transfer.

My interpretation was that he was trying to get his guild and his server on the map, not compare himself to Team Riot.

His guild was just fortunate enough to come across one who has a lot of exposure which presented an opportunity that he would have been silly to ignore.

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

I’m not twisting his words, you are. You’re twisting mine as well. I never said that players from lower tiers were necessarily worse than players from upper tiers. Someone else said that and he says it bothered him.

He says that he wants to demonstrate that not everyone from lower tiers is bad by fighting guilds from upper tiers.

We are from BG, a t1 server therefore it makes sense to assume he was referring to us in this instance since we are in the video.

And please don’t call me sugar it’s creepy.

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Posted by: Sorrow.7384

Sorrow.7384

I don’t know where you got the assumption that the population of a server is directly proportional to the skill level of the players considering [RIOT] tries to recruit players who beat them from lower tier servers. Even offering to pay for their transfer.

lol.

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Posted by: pukish.5784

pukish.5784

Cheer up,RIOT.

This is my first post on this game forum.

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Posted by: Puppychow.2563

Puppychow.2563

Uh..is everyone here forgetting that champ is friendly to OP? So this champ aoe pulse cc’s like every 12 seconds, and he hurts.

So there is 5 of them plus a CC spamming champ (I see the friendly on their map trailing just a bit behind), and there’s only 7 at the start? (Sorry some one downed at the start of an engage doesn’t count).

I’m all about a good skirmish but this is kind of cheap.

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Posted by: lolwut.4298

lolwut.4298

Uh..is everyone here forgetting that champ is friendly to OP? So this champ aoe pulse cc’s like every 12 seconds, and he hurts.

So there is 5 of them plus a CC spamming champ (I see the friendly on their map trailing just a bit behind), and there’s only 7 at the start? (Sorry some one downed at the start of an engage doesn’t count).

I’m all about a good skirmish but this is kind of cheap.

Id rather have 9 people over 4 people and that champ (unless those 9 people are at RIOTs skill level in which case id probably just be better off solo)

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Id rather have 9 people over 4 people and that champ (unless those 9 people are at RIOTs skill level in which case id probably just be better off solo)

I’d rather have 4 (or was it 5?) and the champ. I’ve seen commander-led 20-30 man zergs wipe because of 10 people and a champ. The airport champ, the bell tower champ and the statuary champ are ridiculously strong. The blue keep engineer champ is even worse.

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Posted by: lolwut.4298

lolwut.4298

Id rather have 9 people over 4 people and that champ (unless those 9 people are at RIOTs skill level in which case id probably just be better off solo)

I’d rather have 4 (or was it 5?) and the champ. I’ve seen commander-led 20-30 man zergs wipe because of 10 people and a champ. The airport champ, the bell tower champ and the statuary champ are ridiculously strong. The blue keep engineer champ is even worse.

Well yeah obviously you would rather the champ because of your lack of skill, but if it was a toss up between 4/5 skilled players or the champ the skilled players would be better any day of the week

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Well yeah obviously you would rather the champ because of your lack of skill, but if it was a toss up between 4/5 skilled players or the champ the skilled players would be better any day of the week

Of the 9 players in that video only four were on TS at the time and our engi was all off on his own. You can see him get bursted first before we even knew what was going on. Our necro got bursted before we could properly regroup. So that left 2 of us. I was at half health on engage from fighting the champ. You can see me get chain ccd by the champ while our mesmer and I were still trying to regroup. I had to use my stability to stop getting tossed around by the champ but then I got chain ccd again by tM and bursted. So that just left our mesmer. The rest were randoms. It was a textbook gank. We can’t be held responsible for the skill level of map randoms who happened to be there trying to kill that mob with us. One of them was down before the fight even started.

I would gladly have switched places with tM there. I would gladly take our 4/5 and the champ mob (especially with the element of surprise) any day of the week over what we had.

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Posted by: lolwut.4298

lolwut.4298

Well yeah obviously you would rather the champ because of your lack of skill, but if it was a toss up between 4/5 skilled players or the champ the skilled players would be better any day of the week

Of the 9 players in that video only four were on TS at the time and our engi was all off on his own. You can see him get bursted first before we even knew what was going on. Our necro got bursted before we could properly regroup. So that left 2 of us. I was at half health on engage from fighting the champ. You can see me get chain ccd by the champ while our mesmer and I were still trying to regroup. I had to use my stability to stop getting tossed around by the champ but then I got chain ccd again by tM and bursted. So that just left our mesmer. The rest were randoms. It was a textbook gank. We can’t be held responsible for the skill level of map randoms who happened to be there trying to kill that mob with us. One of them was down before the fight even started.

I would gladly have switched places with tM there. I would gladly take our 4/5 and the champ mob (especially with the element of surprise) any day of the week over what we had.

A lot of excuses for a lack of player skill

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

A lot of excuses for a lack of player skill

The mistakes that we made were made before that fight even started. We were too spread out, we pulled a mob when we shouldn’t have and we weren’t paying attention. None of those mistakes were skill-based. Situational awareness and mechanical skill are two totally different things.

There is no amount of player skill that could’ve changed the outcome of that fight for our group. We were at a severe disadvantage the minute our engi got bursted and done for once our necro got bursted before we could regroup.

The only people who could’ve turned that fight around at that point were the randoms. Unfortunately none of them were on TS with us at the time.

The fact that Joe calls it a “good fight” and says “we did great” is nonsense. We barely got to do anything at all there. This leads me to believe he is either being sarcastic or intentionally dense for the sake of politeness. No one in their right mind could sincerely call that a good fight.

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lolwut.4298

A lot of excuses for a lack of player skill

The mistakes that we made were made before that fight even started. We were too spread out, we pulled a mob when we shouldn’t have and we weren’t paying attention. None of those mistakes were skill-based. Situational awareness and mechanical skill are two totally different things.

There is no amount of player skill that could’ve changed the outcome of that fight for our group. We were at a severe disadvantage the minute our engi got bursted and done for once our necro got bursted before we could regroup.

The only people who could’ve turned that fight around at that point were the randoms. Unfortunately none of them were on TS with us at the time.

The fact that Joe calls it a “good fight” and says “we did great” is nonsense. We barely got to do anything at all there. This leads me to believe he is either being sarcastic or intentionally dense for the sake of politeness. No one in their right mind could sincerely call that a good fight.

If you honestly think that you guys played that well you are either delusional or terrible, there was a lot of potential for you guys to win that fight but it was obvious that you guys were inadequate to achieve that outcome

Maybe you should actually learn to play the game both mechanically and in situational awareness before trying to make all these excuses when you were clearly outplayed by a large margin. Go back to your PU builds and continue to hope that your cheese specs are able to make up for your lack of skill

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Israel.7056

If you honestly think that you guys played that well you are either delusional or terrible, there was a lot of potential for you guys to win that fight but it was obvious that you guys were inadequate to achieve that outcome

Maybe you should actually learn to play the game both mechanically and in situational awareness before trying to make all these excuses when you were clearly outplayed by a large margin. Go back to your PU builds and continue to hope that your cheese specs are able to make up for your lack of skill

We didn’t get outplayed mechanically, we got ambushed. It was a good ambush but a terrible fight. The problem wasn’t improper skill rotations or wasted cooldowns or split dps, it was that our two main dps got bursted before we could regroup leaving us with only randoms who weren’t on TS. So for him to call it a good fight and say we did great is condescending nonsense.

It bothers me that we got ganked but what bothers me more is for him to talk to us like “yeah you guys did your best we were just better.” It’s an insult to my intelligence.

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Logi.5612

If you honestly think that you guys played that well you are either delusional or terrible, there was a lot of potential for you guys to win that fight but it was obvious that you guys were inadequate to achieve that outcome

Maybe you should actually learn to play the game both mechanically and in situational awareness before trying to make all these excuses when you were clearly outplayed by a large margin. Go back to your PU builds and continue to hope that your cheese specs are able to make up for your lack of skill

We didn’t get outplayed mechanically, we got ambushed. It was a good ambush but a terrible fight. The problem wasn’t improper skill rotations or wasted cooldowns or split dps, it was that our two main dps got bursted before we could regroup leaving us with only randoms who weren’t on TS. So for him to call it a good fight and say we did great is condescending nonsense.

It bothers me that we got ganked but what bothers me more is for him to talk to us like “yeah you guys did your best we were just better.” It’s an insult to my intelligence.

Think it was last saturday that we 4manned again in EotM and we decided to give that champ a whirl to see what the fuss was about. Didn’t seem like a big deal until we got jumped by a large number of players following a commander. We were in the EXACT same position you guys were only we were the ones outnumbered. Indeed the champ was troublesome. But we saw those enemies coming and the moment we realised that the champ was being a bother we simply kited away and we managed to kill those enemies on the bridge whilst losing the champs aggro.

Joe never intended to belittle RIOT or implying them to be bad. We have seen countless and countless videos of you guys starting from BETA. We have seen you on twitch, we have seen you guys PR the crap out of your guild and people have used you guys as a baseline for “being good”.

We were incredibly excited to have finally gotten the chance to truly test our own personal skill as we have been doing really well in the lower tier servers. But since we are a lower tier server, people judge us by it. So even more reason to be excited at having a chance to fight a renowned t1 guild. Sure this was not a legit GvG, but it was an outnumbered fight for us where an even number of RIOT members were involved. So Joe was excited to post this video publically to put ourselves on the map to prove the naysayers wrong and perhaps setup a further relationship with RIOT for more future friendly rivalry.

Instead we get belittled. I’m pretty disappointed as I personally have looked up to RIOT. Yishis made me play a thief and has also inspired and created the beast known as I Am Mugi. Second to God has inspired me to take my warrior out of pve and bring it out to WvW. There are probably many other instances in tM where RIOT played an influence to where we are now and i thank you for that. But i’m done with RIOT now. To me you have become just another pug in the blob, and beating you will no longer feel like an achievement.

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Israel.7056

As I’ve said before, you did a good job of catching us napping. We could’ve shown better situational awareness there. It was a good ambush and we didn’t react nearly as quickly as we should have.

But you still deserve to be belittled. You idolize some of us and want to establish a relationship so you post a video of you ambushing us after we spent the entire afternoon sparring? We had several other fights that day, why not post those or even give mention to them? I think it’s because Joe wanted to give the impression that that was our only encounter that day.

If Joe didn’t intend insult then he is either not very bright or chose his words very poorly because ganking people and then saying “good fight you guys are great” is insulting.

And I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t think I would’ve ever been interested in a “friendly rivalry” with you guys because quite frankly I don’t see that there’s anything to be gained from it. That being said, I’m probably the least friendly member of RIOT but after all this I don’t think you’ll be able to get much traction with anyone else in guild either.

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Logi.5612

As I’ve said before, you did a good job of catching us napping. We could’ve shown better situational awareness there. It was a good ambush and we didn’t react nearly as quickly as we should have.

But you still deserve to be belittled. You idolize some of us and want to establish a relationship so you post a video of you ambushing us after we spent the entire afternoon sparring? We had several other fights that day, why not post those or even give mention to them? I think it’s because Joe wanted to give the impression that that was our only encounter that day.

If Joe didn’t intend insult then he is either not very bright or chose his words very poorly because ganking people and then saying “good fight you guys are great” is insulting.

And I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t think I would’ve ever been interested in a “friendly rivalry” with you guys because quite frankly I don’t see that there’s anything to be gained from it. That being said, I’m probably the least friendly member of RIOT but after all this I don’t think you’ll be able to get much traction with anyone else in guild either.

Man has my image of RIOT been crushed. Saddening. You know fully well that all the other “sparring” involved massive zergs around and about and i would hardly call that a sparring session. Meh why am I even trying. Your ego is just all over the place, i’m out.

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Forgive me if I have a hard time trusting the sincerity of a guy who has a bucket full of salt titled “Ostrich Eggs Embarrassed” in his own signature.

Just like that video, this one (regardless of the quality of the fight) was a salty move by tM, and received a salty response by RIOT. /thread

Unfortunately you have no clue what the backstory of that video is and I don’t really feel like explaining that to you. Should I refer to someones post a little bit earlier in this thread which I will direct you and Israel:

careful with that ego.

To think Riot Gaming is a professional organisation with the above people representing it, pretty peculier

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lolwut.4298

You idolize some of us and want to establish a relationship so you post a video of you ambushing us after we spent the entire afternoon sparring?

And I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t think I would’ve ever been interested in a “friendly rivalry” with you guys because quite frankly I don’t see that there’s anything to be gained from it. That being said, I’m probably the least friendly member of RIOT but after all this I don’t think you’ll be able to get much traction with anyone else in guild either.

Why would anyone want to idolise you? This video along with other battles i’ve had with RIOT have confirmed that you guys are incredibly overrated

We didn’t get outplayed mechanically, we got ambushed. It was a good ambush but a terrible fight. The problem wasn’t improper skill rotations or wasted cooldowns or split dps, it was that our two main dps got bursted

There were numerous mistakes that you guys made throughout that fight and the fault is entirely on you guys but feel free to ignore that in attempt to cover the fact that you guys are sub-par players

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Joe.4178

I apologize to [RIOT] for being nice, that they bm my last thread and got it moved to linksville. Didn’t intend for it to flame you guys, but I guess I should’ve taken consideration to your sensitive feelings.

Sorrow.7384
Where are the other vids of us beating you earlier that day?
I would really like to see the one where you mass invis’d and I pulled you and your warrior off the edge.
Israel.7056:
We had several other fights that day, why not post those or even give mention to them? I think it’s because Joe wanted to give the impression that that was our only encounter that day.
If Joe didn’t intend insult then he is either not very bright or chose his words very poorly because ganking people and then saying “good fight you guys are great” is insulting.

I was just showing good sportsmanship, by saying good fight even if its bad or good. There’s nothing to get mad about, which doesn’t make any sense.

Here’s the vid of us™ losing to [RIOT] that they wanted to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4_4ympEKS0

[RIOT] is kittens:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8181355/doggydaycare.jpg

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NSP Colorful Charr Engineer & Mesmer: Bamf Joe
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Israel.7056

Forget good sportsmanship. Don’t say it’s a good fight if you know it wasn’t like I don’t know any better. If I thought you guys played bad I’d tell you, I wouldn’t tell you “good fight.”

BTW wasn’t there another earlier fight that you guys lost too?

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lolwut.4298

Forget good sportsmanship. Don’t say it’s a good fight if you know it wasn’t like I don’t know any better. If I thought you guys played bad I’d tell you, I wouldn’t tell you “good fight.”

BTW wasn’t there another earlier fight that you guys lost too?

Judging from the videos you are bad and it wasn’t a good fight because you lacked the skills to make it a close battle

It’s okay though i’m sure spamming your 1-9 buttons will put you above average on zerggate

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Israel.7056

No one’s talking to you.

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JHN.8749

You jumped my guys while fighting alongside the most OP champ in EOTM. GGs, but careful with that ego. Of course looking forward to more fights with you lower tier guys in the future! Absolutely thrilled that EOTM was implemented with the cross-server design!

Stop contradicting yourself and shut your filthy mouth, your guildies basically is the one talking majority of the thread trying to make pathetic lil excuses for you lack of skill.

Funny how putting yourself in a position to die to a temporal curtain is written off as “elementary level” but catching people on a champ mob is leet outnumbered tactics.

Only thing elementary level about you getting pulled is that you, as a mesmer yourself, fell victim to it.

They pretty much manhandled you guys with 9 guys on them while dropping you guys like flies. Crying about getting ganked by half your numbers, then they make this vid of them getting ganked by 2x their numbers and still putting you t1 elitists in your place. The way you guys played were on elementary level, can’t believe you let 4 guys do that to you while they had 9 on them at the same time. Then you guys play the victim in this thread, its so pitiful to see riot get more views that tM when Riot isn’t even on pug level.

Its kinda lame how in the introduction to the video Joe gives props/respect to RIOT and then they come in to the thread and start flaming him…

I don’t think he actually respects us I think he thinks we’re trash and is too afraid to say it.

I mean if I legit 4v9 someone I’m gonna think they’re bad, obviously that’s what he thinks now too.

If he thinks this was a legit fight where we were ready to go and fought our best and they just overcame the odds with epic skill then one must conclude that he thinks we are inferior to him and he should just say that.

I could live with that.

I’m not twisting his words, you are. You’re twisting mine as well. I never said that players from lower tiers were necessarily worse than players from upper tiers. Someone else said that and he says it bothered him.

He says that he wants to demonstrate that not everyone from lower tiers is bad by fighting guilds from upper tiers.

We are from BG, a t1 server therefore it makes sense to assume he was referring to us in this instance since we are in the video.

And please don’t call me sugar it’s creepy.

He was just being a good sport about the fights, he never mentioned anything bad. You’re just contradicting yourself by putting words in his mouth that he never even said to begin with. Especially that pathetic/scum post of you and teivo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8181355/doggydaycare.jpg.

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