Guild Wars 2

haviz.1340:

Izuna.5307:

extra damage in time warp just like if u were a theif ud use theives guild your stacking dps

First you’re saying rangers are useless because of pets, then you’re saying hounds of balthazar is a must.

UNLESS you have a ability to contribute to party aka battle standard time warp then you need to be using summons to help with your damage n yes rangers are hated at simin ask anyone reason hounds work bc their there for 30 seconds pure dps n do not bother with whole sparks bc im talkin when the sparks been place for final burn at 50 percent.

Why is this thread still alive… Robert Hrouda already said he was going to gut this path like he did with CoF1.

Izuna.5307:

UNLESS you have a ability to contribute to party aka battle standard time warp then you need to be using summons to help with your damage n yes rangers are hated at simin ask anyone reason hounds work bc their there for 30 seconds pure dps n do not bother with whole sparks bc im talkin when the sparks been place for final burn at 50 percent.

Amazing.

Izuna.5307:

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We spent most of the time at Simi. The rest must have been less than 1 hour.
Truth is I watch series while I play GW2, so I don’t get bored mashing buttons at a boss. I don’t know the reasons for the rest to stick around.

And again, we alreay know all of those hints and tips. Everyone knows them. So stop it with the “you must be doing something wrong”. We are not. Some people may be doing something better or worse than others, fater or slower, but that’s irrelevant when they hit the bug.
I am not reporting that I think it’s hard. I don’t think there’s anything hard in the entire game. The closest to hard games I’ve ever played were Cogs and Super Meat Boy.
I’m reporting it can’t be done when the bug kicks in. And no ‘hints and tips’ can help against a bug that prevents you from doing something as intended.

Imagine you buy a car, and it’s wiring is all messed up, and so it won’t start.
And when you complain about that, you get ‘hints and tips’ about how to drive.

I know how to drive, sir. Now let’s get the car fixed.

MithranArkanere.8957:

Izuna.5307:

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We spent most of the time at Simi. The rest must have been less than 1 hour.
Truth is I watch series while I play GW2, so I don’t get bored mashing buttons at a boss. I don’t know the reasons for the rest to stick around.

And again, we alreay know all of those hints and tips. Everyone knows them. So stop it with the “you must be doing something wrong”. We are not. Some people may be doing something better or worse than others, fater or slower, but that’s irrelevant when they hit the bug.
I am not reporting that I think it’s hard. I don’t think there’s anything hard in the entire game. The closest to hard games I’ve ever played were Cogs and Super Meat Boy.
I’m reporting it can’t be done when the bug kicks in. And no ‘hints and tips’ can help against a bug that prevents you from doing something as intended.

Imagine you buy a car, and it’s wiring is all messed up, and so it won’t start.
And when you complain about that, you get ‘hints and tips’ about how to drive.

I know how to drive, sir. Now let’s get the car fixed.

Honestly, my group spent the least time on simin. The fight took 4mins, literally, I timed it.

xmasGhost.3280:

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Honestly, my group spent the least time on simin. The fight took 4mins, literally, I timed it.

As I mentioned before, non-bugged instances existing does not mean that there can’t be bugged instances, nor that people should try until they get one that is not bugged.

It means that it must be fixed so bugged instances do not happen.

This fight is bugged, particularly the sparks. I find it strange that there are still people claiming that it’s not bugged at all.

Negrul.5423:

This fight is bugged, particularly the sparks. I find it strange that there are still people claiming that it’s not bugged at all.

sparks arent bugged. u just need to know1 thing. dont run close to each other when u put them.

I would just love to have a team which can’t get it done. Perhaps it is bugged but I can’t reproduce.

Wethospu.6437:

I would just love to have a team which can’t get it done. Perhaps it is bugged but I can’t reproduce.

It is bugged, but not always. We weren’t able to narrow down /why/ it bugged, but between a problem free fight and a bugged one there were significant differences in Simin’s behavior (multiple dead eyed stare debuffs on a single player, stealthing at 25% hp regardless of time).

first time trying this path today. read the wiki, watched the utube videos but still spent hours trying to get past the sparks with no success. we always had that 1 spark that decided to take the long way around to its spot. or I had a few times I would forget to put my pet in passive and it would steal the sparks agro from me. ( I know a ranger in a dungeon wtf was I thinking)

tried every trick we could find online but nothing worked. I think my son summed up this boss fight pretty good when he said, this is the dumbest boss fight ever.

Wethospu.6437:

I would just love to have a team which can’t get it done. Perhaps it is bugged but I can’t reproduce.

Perhaps I misunderstood, but is this an offer to help people who struggle with that fight or the sparks have never bugged on your encounters? Personally I have around ten hours on that fight alone and most of the times the sparks just go crazy(and I don’t mean they change aggro to someone else) or even just stop 1-2 yards away from their spot.

Both, I have done it like 10-15 times after-patch.

Ok, 5th time on Simin and still no success.

Sparks are not bugged anymore, the mechanics work properly. Although, this dungeon run is not fun anymore because Simin is like an unbreakable wall for over 70% of us. I agree with everyone stating this is more of a DPS match rather than skill. No matter how good your team is at getting sparks, if you don’t have a good DPS then forget about winning.

Everyone who says it is possible is just lucky because maybe she bugged for 5 seconds or so and was able to do it. I really wish they change the battle as a whole. I don’t mind her going into stealth and regenerating but change the sparks.

I agree with who says we need a team who is prepared and knows what to do and not pick up anyone and do it.

Noob Squinty.4621:

Ok, 5th time on Simin and still no success.

Sparks are not bugged anymore, the mechanics work properly. Although, this dungeon run is not fun anymore because Simin is like an unbreakable wall for over 70% of us. I agree with everyone stating this is more of a DPS match rather than skill. No matter how good your team is at getting sparks, if you don’t have a good DPS then forget about winning.

Everyone who says it is possible is just lucky because maybe she bugged for 5 seconds or so and was able to do it. I really wish they change the battle as a whole. I don’t mind her going into stealth and regenerating but change the sparks.

I agree with who says we need a team who is prepared and knows what to do and not pick up anyone and do it.

you are wrong. its not a dps check.
path4 dwayna is bugged on some servers. wait until its fixed and try again.
i did it over 50 times and i can tell you that u can even kill her just with yellow gear and u dont even have to be a full berserker group, as long as its not bugged.

people dont have to be lucky to get this done. maybe they are just better than you.
“you are lucky because you can do something and i cant”
i hate this, like 1200 elo players in league of legends who believe elohell is the reason why they are at 1200. and highelo players are just lucky. instead of accepting how bad they really are.

Still waiting for that video that clearly shows the bug.

pdfrod.1948:

Still waiting for that video that clearly shows the bug.

You’re gonna have to be more specific. Simin can feature in more than one way.

pdfrod.1948:

Still waiting for that video that clearly shows the bug.

A plea has been successful, no need for that anymore.

haviz.1340:

A plea has been successful, no need for that anymore.

Did you already complain about the “devaluation” of the “prestige” of the DM title?

Iehova.9518:

Did you already complain about the “devaluation” of the “prestige” of the DM title?

No because there’s no prestige in that. Never was.

I’m just now wondering if we are going to see even more pleas or she becomes one of the 99% of the bosses which you can defeat with one hand or even finger.

Iehova.9518:

pdfrod.1948:

Still waiting for that video that clearly shows the bug.

You’re gonna have to be more specific. Simin can feature in more than one way.

I’m talking about the bug that supposedly makes it completely impossible to progress.

I’ve only seen the following bugs/annoyances:
- sometimes the animation for the spots around the statue completely vanishes, making it harder to figure out where you need to put the spark;
- I’ve had one situation where the spark would just hover its spot instead of attaching to it. Only at the third attempt did it attach;
- sparks following pets.

I have yet to see a progress blocking bug.

haviz.1340:

pdfrod.1948:

Still waiting for that video that clearly shows the bug.

A plea has been successful, no need for that anymore.

I suspect that even with the nerf, there will still be people complaining that it’s too hard/bugged.

But yeah, since the mechanics will eventually be reworked it’s possibly pointless to look into this bug… but I’m still curious about it.

haviz.1340:

No because there’s no prestige in that. Never was.

Gee and here I was under the impression that clearing content means something.

I’m just now wondering if we are going to see even more pleas or she becomes one of the 99% of the bosses which you can defeat with one hand or even finger.

All things considered, I’m guessing scrublords are going to beg that sparks go to their places on their own.

Iehova.9518:

Gee and here I was under the impression that clearing content means something.

It means something when you’re not being carried. Completing every path just once when almost every encounter can be brute forced while spamming autoattacks under timewarp is something I can’t consider prestigious.

haviz.1340:

It means something when you’re not being carried.

Dunno about you, I never got carried in any part of the game.

Iehova.9518:

Dunno about you, I never got carried in any part of the game.

I wasn’t pointing fingers, just explaining my point of view. I’ve met a lot more dungeon masters that were bad than dungeon masters that weren’t.

path4 dwayna nerfed into the ground. the healing is so low, u can probably go afk for like 2 min when shes at 50% and when u come back she would still be invisible.
seriously sad what anet is doing with the dungeons because people cry too much instead of asking themselves what they are doing wrong and how they can play better.

srsly why did u do this u could beat her with a good thief or ranger who get the sparks quick now every casual can kill her lol

It does not matter how much you decrease the healing, if she keeps hiding at 50%.

PLEASE.

FIX THE BUG. THERE IS A BUG.

I’ve tried it 10 times already. She keeps hiding at 50% HP. Only at 50% HP, and ALWAYS at 50% HP.

DPS, time recovering the sparks… NOTHING matters. She hids at 50% HP. EVERY FREAKING TIME.

This must be fixed ASAP. It makes IMPOSSIBLE to complete the dungeon.

So has anyone else run into Mithran’s problem? Mith did you do 4-1 or just normal? From what it sounds like the fight is better now and I plan on running it on Friday if the majority says it is fine

Every time I tried, the 50% HP bug happens.

I could try until the bug no longer happens, but the dungeon is extremely boring and getting parties for path 4 takes ages, so I’m not trying again until they fix it.

We started normal. Damage her to 50%, she hides, we gather 5 sparks she reappears. We attack again, she hides again at 50% in no time, as she didn’t recover much.

We tried the 4-1 bug later after we hit 50% 10 consecutive times, but she reappeared before recovering 100%, and the next time we still had to gather 5 sparks.

Turns out that it didn’t matter if we gathered the sparks or not. She kept reappearing after a while. We kept damaging her, and she kept hiding at 50% HP. We did damage over 20 times faster than she recovers while hiding. So I’m sure it’s not a DPS matter.
We got her against the wall, and she’ll hide after I landed one or two Fiery Whirls of about 6-8K damage.

It isn’t a bug. If she regens too much health then she will reset to stealthing at 50%. It took us a few tries but we managed to get the sparks in fast enough.
Overall, much better now.
Finally got my dungeon master title!!!
Thanks so much Anet! A much needed nerf.

I’m getting sick and tired of people telling me it’s not a bug.

You say that if she recovers too much health, she’ll hide again at 50%.
Well, he got her several times to show in less than 5-10 seconds after hiding. And she always hid on 50% HP, never sooner.
How much health can she recover during that time at the current speed she recovers health? In most cases it could not be higher that 55% HP when she reappared.

It IS a bug. It can’t be anything else.

Exactly. Heavily reducing her recovering rate it’s pointless.

Support listened to those saying “you are doing it wrong” and to those saying “it’s too hard” instead to those saying “this is bugged”.

The result, they altered something that was mostly fine, and the bug is still there, and we are still with a situation in which you either do it easily even if you are bad, or can’t do it at all, no matter how good you are at it.

The only problem that this encounter has, was not addressed: just fix the sparks already.

NoTrigger.8396:

Quick Mouse.7635:

It isn’t a bug. If she regens too much health then she will reset to stealthing at 50%. It took us a few tries but we managed to get the sparks in fast enough.
Overall, much better now.
Finally got my dungeon master title!!!
Thanks so much Anet! A much needed nerf.

you cant be serious dude. it was already easy before the nerfs if u were smart enough to think about fast ways to put the sparks into the circles.
you didnt need high dps.
you had like 50 seconds every time you made simin visible to deal damage.
this nerf wasnt needed at all.
if you couldnt do simin before the january patch, it wasnt because it was op and needed a nerf. it was because you were just bad.

january patch bugged simin. she disappeared after 10 seconds etc.
thats why people couldnt do it.
and instead of thinking that its a bug everyone cried for nerfs, unnecessarily nerfs.
i ran p4 over 40 times, before january patch.
and i can tell you, even now simin is bugged because she keeps disappearing at 50%hp.
sometimes sparks spawn, even when simin is still visible.

i reported that bs 3 or 4 times ingame. i sent a supportticket.
nice job that this player support is doing.
if they would do their job, p4 would still be the same, without bugs.

bug fixes to fix the bugs that were introduced with the january patch would have been enough.
now we have free dungeon masters for everyone because even 5 braindead monkeys will be able to do it now (and yes, without bananas in the chest).

Iam dead serious. My guild and I tried this fight 20xs before they nerfed it. Never beat it once. This was the only encounter preventing me from getting my dungeon master title.
Since the nerf, I beat it on my first try.
Sure, it took a few tries before we managed to get the sparks in quick enough that she wouldn’t invis at 50% hp. But once we did, it went quite smoothly.

What I really find weird how some people get bugs literally all the time. I have done it dozens of times after January patch and I have seen her bug once (when she completely stopped hiding).
Now if you combine how average pug tries to do this (chaos, people getting downed all the time, etc)…

We still didn’t get video proof that a bug exists. I’m willing to bet that this “bug” is people not analyzing their own mistakes during the fight and instead blaming it on the game.

Strange, I have yet to meet a single person in-game who thinks that there’s nothing wrong with that encounter. I’m willing to bet that the people who claim it’s not bugged are always using the 4-1 sparks bug to defeat that boss.

With a really low dps party she kept hiding at 25% but after better spark runs she died. I’ve never got this “bug”.

Negrul.5423:

Strange, I have yet to meet a single person in-game who thinks that there’s nothing wrong with that encounter. I’m willing to bet that the people who claim it’s not bugged are always using the 4-1 sparks bug to defeat that boss.

Strange, I’ve joined teams stuck for hours just to complete it in ~15 minutes. They were often saying that’s she’s bugged.

The boss was probably bugged on them as well.

just to support MithranArkanere.8957
the constant hiding is known bug … I experienced it like 2-3 months ago – it could be back

Yes, she was bugged and once I joined them she wasn’t anymore.

iTB.1428:

just to support MithranArkanere.8957
the constant hiding is known bug …

Heh…we actually had the exact opposite of this, but only once: she stopped going stealth with all five sparks out. This was after the latest patch.

Toxyn.9608:

We still didn’t get video proof that a bug exists. I’m willing to bet that this “bug” is people not analyzing their own mistakes during the fight and instead blaming it on the game.

you have no idea what ur talking about.
once again for people like you.

before the january patch u had like 50 seconds to deal damage to simin every time u made her visible.
the first time i killed simin it took us 15 minutes, because our damage was really low and we had to make her visible a few times.
sparks were not bugged. u just had to take care of a few things and think about ways to put em into the circles very fast.
this is what most people failed to realize and couldnt do.
it wasnt a dps check, you just had to be smart.

after the january patch, she disappeared random after 10 seconds. the only way to kill her was 4-1 and hit her from 50% to 0.
this probably didnt happen on every server.
this is why you couldnt kill simin anymore except with an almost full berserker group + timewarp.

after february patch, she keeps hiding at 50%hp, stealth times are random again.
sometimes she is still visible and all sparks spawn.
but the healing is so low that monkeys can do it.

the nerf was not needed. bugfixes were needed. but since so many people without a clue reported how hard it was, it got nerfed instead of fixed.

Jus finished Path 4, with a group of first timers again, still no issue for Simin. Perhaps random stealth bug is… random?

I finished a few path 4 runs some time ago with random classes and what can I say now – there’s no fun. It’s so easy and the title “Dungeon Master” is so easy to obtain now. Simin healing skill is really, really nerfed now and I can say this path is no longer the hardest one.

I’m broken seeing something like this… what about people who have tried to done it before a patch? For us “Dungeon Masters” from before the patch it’s a big joke… or at least that’s what I think myself.

Blovesx.6521:

I finished a few path 4 runs some time ago with random classes and what can I say now – there’s no fun. It’s so easy and the title “Dungeon Master” is so easy to obtain now. Simin healing skill is really, really nerfed now and I can say this path is no longer the hardest one.

I’m broken seeing something like this… what about people who have tried to done it before a patch? For us “Dungeon Masters” from before the patch it’s a big joke… or at least that’s what I think myself.

We definitely need hard mode.

Toxyn.9608:

We still didn’t get video proof that a bug exists. I’m willing to bet that this “bug” is people not analyzing their own mistakes during the fight and instead blaming it on the game.

As I said before, we don’t have to proof with a video, because no one should have to install some video recording software and attempt the dungeon again and again until it bugs so we get support.

As players we only have to report what we know about the bug as much as we reasonably can. Attempting to replicate the bug is QA’s job, not the player’s.

The more people in-game says they get this bug and the more people in forums say they don’t, the more I think it’s people who are selling non-bugged instances the ones coming here to say it’s not a bug. As they’ll lose that source of income if this bug were to be fixed.

• The bug does not affect everyone.
• The bug has affected every time several people. I’m one of the unlucky ones.
• Getting parties for the dungeon is hard as many people no longer attempt it after hitting the bug several times, and with the average pug doing it is slow, so you can’t expect people to repeat it until they get it done.

The more and more people get affected by this bug, the less people attempts path 4, the harder it becomes to get a single party. Just go to GW2LFG, how many path 4s are there? Almost none all the time.

When an event is bugged, you may lose just 5-15 minutes, a story you can always attempt later solo, with a dungeon, the longer a bug sticks around, the worse the situation gets.
All I can do is coming here to nag. So I’ll keep nagging and nagging until it gets finally fixed.

iTB.1428:

iTB.1428:

just to support MithranArkanere.8957
the constant hiding is known bug …

Heh…we actually had the exact opposite of this, but only once: she stopped going stealth with all five sparks out. This was after the latest patch.

Yeah, last time I attempted it she had some randomness, appearing even before all sparks were gathered. It looks like there’s several undocumented changes in Arah, maybe they changed it so each spark reduces the time on its own, who knows?.
Still, the 50% HP hiding was constant. So we could not progress anyways.