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Posted by: Element Two.7316

Element Two.7316

Since there’s like 7-10 guilds dedicated to truly being hardcore and breaking dungeon records

More like 3 but they have a rota and take it in turns to be active and the one breaking all the records.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

Since there’s like 7-10 guilds dedicated to truly being hardcore and breaking dungeon records

More like 3 but they have a rota and take it in turns to be active and the one breaking all the records.

More like 1-2 actually.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Anyone want to do stuff? <.<

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Like?

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

Rasimir.6239

Anyone want to do stuff? <.<

Yes, me, please … but I’m stuck at work for another 6 hours at least cries painfully

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Well, I’m stuck soloing a 50.. good practice, I guess?

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Posted by: GrimmR.3541

GrimmR.3541

Anyone want to do stuff? <.<

Yes, me, please … but I’m stuck at work for another 6 hours at least cries painfully

I feel your pain. :<

toxic since 2012

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I soloed the whole 3rrd fractal and then I kicked myself out on the ready screen, LOL
Someone crown me as the genius of today… whatever, twas relatively fun anyway. I guess. /sigh

Instance recovered! /claps himself on the back

Update n4: got a lunaria. WORTH! Most rewarding content in the game!

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

So Nike how did you know the Engi’s elite specialization was not going to be Forge but another name, Scrapper?

Secretely testing for Anet?

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

NikeEU.7690

Yes, I have been raid testing for months. Lets just say that if your team isn’t planning on running a full tanky spec ranger you won’t be full clearing the raid anytime soon.

[DnT]::Nike::
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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

Rasimir.6239

Update n4: got a lunaria. WORTH! Most rewarding content in the game!

Hey, my norn ele would kill for such a sparkling little gem ^^ poor girl only gets some handed-down healing power/condi rings usually

But what’s this fixation with rewards around the forums these days? I need this forum to cheer me up during work hours, but at the moment it seems all is doom and gloom, and how rewards are lousy all over the place.

I may be a weird one, but I actually enjoyed the mordrem event (well, the part I was able to do … lots of rl keeping me out of the game atm). It gave me a bunch of new minis, about six levels worth of experience and a good bunch of map exploration on the three maps done on the alt (lvl 34 -> 40) I used for the event, plus a good amount of iron, soft wood, pepper and even the fun of chaotically running around the maps all the time . That sure looks like a reward to me …

I’ve been doing low-level fractals with guildies, took a while (close to an hour for a lvl 10 ), but we spent most of that time goofing around and just having fun, and got a bit of gold, some loot (yellows, possibly an exotic, some mist essences … no ring though, since we didn’t go above lvl 10) for time spent having fun, too. But I gather from the forums that that’s not a reward but rather just “junk”?

Helped out a guildie that was stuck in a lousy TA pug when some of the pugs quit, got some gold and tokens for a couple of minutes and two enjoyable (if chaotic ) fights against Leurent and the nightmare tree with a less-than-perfect group setup (lowest character was lvl 55 ). I guess having fun and getting some gold and tokens on top of that does not count as rewards either?

I did use one of my spare character slots and a lvl 20 scroll (first 3-year-birthday won’t come for another 8 weeks) to create a new charr just to go through the early charr personal story, picking up a bunch of loot bags, a racial and an order skin, a couple of keys (lvl 10+40 stories … “thanks” to real life I won’t find the time to play through stories more often than any other week or so anyway), and see a lot of story I had missed so far (yes, I like to check them all out and see how they’re all connected ). Got a couple of boosters that will come in handy when the expansion hits, low level materials for crafting ascended materials, and more … but probably no reward from what I can read on the forums.

Sorry for my ranting, but I’m just so tired of people getting given stuff left and right and center and only complaining about “no rewards worth the effort”. I guess ANet would have to cut down all the gold, materials, salvaging fodder etc. to 0 and only give out a piece of loot once every 10k kills to make stuff worth it again …

Not intended against anyone particular, it’s just something that’s been bugging me more and more lately. With all the stuff we get in this game, what exactly do people expect when they say “no rewards”?

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

How did u recovered the instance when u were kicked alone deSade?

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

The fact that Anet has got members of the Dungeon community who understand the mechanics of the game at a high level does give me a hope for their raids.

That is, depending on how much they want to tune them down after the testing is done.

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Kordash.2197

Yes, I have been raid testing for months. Lets just say that if your team isn’t planning on running a full tanky spec ranger you won’t be full clearing the raid anytime soon.

Let’s make a bait thread about this “tanky ranger for raids” in general discussion, that would be fun xD

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

NikeEU.7690

The fact that Anet has got members of the Dungeon community who understand the mechanics of the game at a high level does give me a hope for their raids.

That is, depending on how much they want to tune them down after the testing is done.

Your sarcasm meter is broken, might want to get it looked at.

[DnT]::Nike::
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Posted by: TheRandomGuy.7246

TheRandomGuy.7246

Rip Hope 17.09.2015 – 17.09.2015

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

Nothing of value was lost this day.

That what I get for browsing reddit ..

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Update n4: got a lunaria. WORTH! Most rewarding content in the game!

Hey, my norn ele would kill for such a sparkling little gem ^^ poor girl only gets some handed-down healing power/condi rings usually

But what’s this fixation with rewards around the forums these days? I need this forum to cheer me up during work hours, but at the moment it seems all is doom and gloom, and how rewards are lousy all over the place.

I may be a weird one, but I actually enjoyed the mordrem event (well, the part I was able to do … lots of rl keeping me out of the game atm). It gave me a bunch of new minis, about six levels worth of experience and a good bunch of map exploration on the three maps done on the alt (lvl 34 -> 40) I used for the event, plus a good amount of iron, soft wood, pepper and even the fun of chaotically running around the maps all the time . That sure looks like a reward to me …

I’ve been doing low-level fractals with guildies, took a while (close to an hour for a lvl 10 ), but we spent most of that time goofing around and just having fun, and got a bit of gold, some loot (yellows, possibly an exotic, some mist essences … no ring though, since we didn’t go above lvl 10) for time spent having fun, too. But I gather from the forums that that’s not a reward but rather just “junk”?

Helped out a guildie that was stuck in a lousy TA pug when some of the pugs quit, got some gold and tokens for a couple of minutes and two enjoyable (if chaotic ) fights against Leurent and the nightmare tree with a less-than-perfect group setup (lowest character was lvl 55 ). I guess having fun and getting some gold and tokens on top of that does not count as rewards either?

I did use one of my spare character slots and a lvl 20 scroll (first 3-year-birthday won’t come for another 8 weeks) to create a new charr just to go through the early charr personal story, picking up a bunch of loot bags, a racial and an order skin, a couple of keys (lvl 10+40 stories … “thanks” to real life I won’t find the time to play through stories more often than any other week or so anyway), and see a lot of story I had missed so far (yes, I like to check them all out and see how they’re all connected ). Got a couple of boosters that will come in handy when the expansion hits, low level materials for crafting ascended materials, and more … but probably no reward from what I can read on the forums.

Sorry for my ranting, but I’m just so tired of people getting given stuff left and right and center and only complaining about “no rewards worth the effort”. I guess ANet would have to cut down all the gold, materials, salvaging fodder etc. to 0 and only give out a piece of loot once every 10k kills to make stuff worth it again …

Not intended against anyone particular, it’s just something that’s been bugging me more and more lately. With all the stuff we get in this game, what exactly do people expect when they say “no rewards”?

Isn’t fun how we want to spend our quality time in the company of dear and joyous people? I agree with you that I had almost taken rewards for granted. I stopped doing dungeon tours but I still see gold flowing into my account daily. I have afforded expensive dyes and skins with no effort in grinding – except for the Mordrem Event, but I’m happy with it. My daily activity is varied with doing map completion, Silverwaste, personal story (key farming), to grace my friends, old and new, with my presence in PvP or fractals, or drag them across their safety boundary to try something they don’t normally do.

The other day, Jerus, Jeth and me made an “All welcome” group in Arah and had a power necro and a bearbow joining us. Despite such an unorthodox comp (Jeth as condi war, Jerus as engi, me as mesmer), the run was pleasantly awesome that we decided to make an encore with another Arah path and the daily fractal. Then I played Settler’s guard, Jeth as condi engi and Jerus as condi ranger. It was so friggin’ fun for everyone.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Update n4: got a lunaria. WORTH! Most rewarding content in the game!

Hey, my norn ele would kill for such a sparkling little gem ^^ poor girl only gets some handed-down healing power/condi rings usually

But what’s this fixation with rewards around the forums these days? I need this forum to cheer me up during work hours, but at the moment it seems all is doom and gloom, and how rewards are lousy all over the place.

I may be a weird one, but I actually enjoyed the mordrem event (well, the part I was able to do … lots of rl keeping me out of the game atm). It gave me a bunch of new minis, about six levels worth of experience and a good bunch of map exploration on the three maps done on the alt (lvl 34 -> 40) I used for the event, plus a good amount of iron, soft wood, pepper and even the fun of chaotically running around the maps all the time . That sure looks like a reward to me …

I’ve been doing low-level fractals with guildies, took a while (close to an hour for a lvl 10 ), but we spent most of that time goofing around and just having fun, and got a bit of gold, some loot (yellows, possibly an exotic, some mist essences … no ring though, since we didn’t go above lvl 10) for time spent having fun, too. But I gather from the forums that that’s not a reward but rather just “junk”?

Helped out a guildie that was stuck in a lousy TA pug when some of the pugs quit, got some gold and tokens for a couple of minutes and two enjoyable (if chaotic ) fights against Leurent and the nightmare tree with a less-than-perfect group setup (lowest character was lvl 55 ). I guess having fun and getting some gold and tokens on top of that does not count as rewards either?

I did use one of my spare character slots and a lvl 20 scroll (first 3-year-birthday won’t come for another 8 weeks) to create a new charr just to go through the early charr personal story, picking up a bunch of loot bags, a racial and an order skin, a couple of keys (lvl 10+40 stories … “thanks” to real life I won’t find the time to play through stories more often than any other week or so anyway), and see a lot of story I had missed so far (yes, I like to check them all out and see how they’re all connected ). Got a couple of boosters that will come in handy when the expansion hits, low level materials for crafting ascended materials, and more … but probably no reward from what I can read on the forums.

Sorry for my ranting, but I’m just so tired of people getting given stuff left and right and center and only complaining about “no rewards worth the effort”. I guess ANet would have to cut down all the gold, materials, salvaging fodder etc. to 0 and only give out a piece of loot once every 10k kills to make stuff worth it again …

Not intended against anyone particular, it’s just something that’s been bugging me more and more lately. With all the stuff we get in this game, what exactly do people expect when they say “no rewards”?

Isn’t fun how we want to spend our quality time in the company of dear and joyous people? I agree with you that I had almost taken rewards for granted. I stopped doing dungeon tours but I still see gold flowing into my account daily. I have afforded expensive dyes and skins with no effort in grinding – except for the Mordrem Event, but I’m happy with it. My daily activity is varied with doing map completion, Silverwaste, personal story (key farming), to grace my friends, old and new, with my presence in PvP or fractals, or drag them across their safety boundary to try something they don’t normally do.

The other day, Jerus, Jeth and me made an “All welcome” group in Arah and had a power necro and a bearbow joining us. Despite such an unorthodox comp (Jeth as condi engi, Jerus as engi, me as mesmer), the run was pleasantly awesome that we decided to make an encore with another Arah path and the daily fractal. Then I played Settler’s guard, Jeth as condi engi and Jerus as condi ranger. It was so friggin’ fun for everyone.

Was tons of fun we’ll have to do it again sometime. Jeth was on Condi warrior though, I remember because I kept getting jealous of how beautiful the dual Bonetti’s Rapiers looked on his character. I was on Condi Engi and Condi Ranger though loving those condi’s lately just a fun change of pace and not anything to complain about either in effectiveness.

I hear ya though Rasimir, I’ve never found fractals to be that bad, they may not come out to quite the same as some other gold farms, but I get plenty of stuff. I even want to say someone did do an analysis and showed it wasn’t bad. I know I spend probably 100g+ a week and yet my bank is still slowly going upwards and I make my Damask every day so my assets are growing too (think I’m up to about 2.5k in assets again). I’ve even recently made 2 more sets of ascended though one of them mostly using chests, which I got from…Fractals!

I will say though, that mordrem thing… that did kitten me off. That Thoughtless Potion kittenes me off. I want it so bad, when it first came out though you couldn’t use it like 99.9% of the time you were playing (unless you sit in cities a lot). So I passed, right before they ended that event they changed it to be useable in combat… grr too late for me to get it at that point. And then they taunt me with it again on a short event where by the time I am able to play it there’s already no possible way for me to get it without playing for like 48 hours strait exploiting the waypoint and tag tactic to earn the max possible blooms. So… much hate for that event. I thought the actually “events” were fun designs, but because of the rewards it got me super salty, I couldn’t even enjoy them if I wanted any chance at getting the potion, but I just quit trying after a few hours.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Can I have a secondary function for my fractal spoons that would let me murder my party members and actually finishing Mai Trin in a relatively short period of time?

2 rifle warriors, staff necro and guardian that can’t block for kitten doesn’t exactly make the fight enjoyable. >_>

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Ugh. Makes me feel almost pro compared to that. How about stealthing in the 1st cannon phase and see if the additional pressure gets them killed?

And to whomever asked, I kicked myself out of sheer stupidity. The 2nd guy in party had to leave, but stayed in the instance. I managed to finish the fractal, pressed ready, waited for a bit, then since I’m so stupid the entire world can’t contain it I reacted out of instinct and tried to kick him so I could reinvite later. I know it kicks you instead when you’re 2, but I did it anyway. Realised what I was about to do a split second too late.
Had to wait for him to come back.
Basically, I locked myself out of my house and forgot the keys inside, and had to wait for someone to let me in. Genius. So worthy of me. In the end I deserved that ring, it would’ve been a tonic if I hadn’t been such a moron. I know it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Please-AN-Attention-to-casual-gamers/first#post5501987 is this world real?

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NovaanVerdiano.6174

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

@deSade: sound like Tom :^)

@Jerus: There is a way to do that event efficiently without the inhumane tagging method.

Basically, I’ve got 20 credits for the majority is Gold and Silver. Meaning I had to finish one event every 1.5 minutes. This is what I did: There are three different events. The Catapult event requires on defense and 3 active catapults to kill the boss fast. This one is in fact a time sink as most of the time you cannot rely on random people for defense. If I come across this event, I kill 2 mobs then leave before the event scales up. The second Bomb event is a noob trap. It is time gated by the rate at which the bomb husk is spit out. It also tends to gather crowds of zerg and scales up. I’d stay and finish this event if there are less than 10 people, otherwise, leave. The last event: Shield Bloom is a DPS check. It is the perfect event to solo. It takes less than a minute to finish with a group of 5 or less. If it takes longer to finish, more people will arrive, the event scales up and takes even longer… The vicious cycle continues. My strategy is to remember the location of these events. As soon as they pop up, I would be there to finish them and get ready to run to the next location. I also used my ranger for this farm. Sometimes I arrived late, the vine was dead but the remnant still scattered around. The 1500 range of long bow helped me secure a tag for the late finishing. I farmed this event 4-5 times a day at most.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

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Posted by: SlyDevil.3952

SlyDevil.3952

You can create infinite bombs at the bomb event though, and the damage scales with crit rate/dmg, possibly multipliers, solo war with signet precision could kill the spawners with 5 bombs. Also depended on how the downscaling got you, you could have up to 10 lvl difference which slowed it down.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Saw people in general section with several tens of tousands of gold. Ran back here :’(. At least I can solo mai. pats himself

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Yeah, I don’t know, I think I’d rather have 10k gold than solo the few things I can solo… how come soloing feels so dry to me nowadays? I’d rather play with my zombie frands…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3lch8s/need_help_with_dong_dungeon/

Here, run to reddit.

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

You have more arah tokens than money can buy tho Miku. I heard it was 93k now? :P

FOR THE GREEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

You have more arah tokens than money can buy tho Miku. I heard it was 93k now? :P

94.3k right now, will be the first to hit 100k I think

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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

Assuming you do the 4 paths everyday and no PeeveePee reward track, you’ll get it in less than a month :P

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Purple Miku.7032

Aww sadly I am not active like I used to be last year! For the first half of 2014 I would solo and sell Arah all the time with no competition at all, averaging between 50-100g a day with just a few hours of casual soloing.

I don’t think I’ll ever have free time like that again, and back then I was still trying to get better. I don’t really have anything to do right now so I usually just sit around in LA sadly, I need motivational help!xD

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Kordash.2197

If you succeed, maybe the internet gods will grant you a better ping !

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Taku.6352

Lmao! Anet likes rangers so much that they won’t even give a PoI episode for Druid.

https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/644904491263881216

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Ryn.6459

Not that I care about rangers, but I would bet they are going to announce both ranger and engi… Too kitten otherwise.

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Posted by: SlyDevil.3952

SlyDevil.3952

Maybe they just looked at ranger spec and decided to release it with raids so it got extra development time.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Yay don’t have to do map completion for engi. Scrapper sure is useless for pve.

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SlyDevil.3952

Yay don’t have to do map completion for engi. Scrapper sure is useless for pve.

Lightning fields, on the move pulsing stealth. Seems like it could have uses for trash skips and swap it out for fights.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Warrior using warhorn 4 and ele staff air 4 and you got perma swiftness. The stealth drone lagged way behind when running so not perma stealth. Still rather just use tools as 3rd line for lower recharge on toolbelts and general convenience.

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Ryn.6459

Didnt see it. How bad/good are the hammer coefficients?

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Talyn.3295

Attachments:

“We have now left Reason and Sanity Junction. Next stop, Looneyville.”

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Warrior using warhorn 4 and ele staff air 4 and you got perma swiftness. The stealth drone lagged way behind when running so not perma stealth. Still rather just use tools as 3rd line for lower recharge on toolbelts and general convenience.

Engi can finally best thief at stealth and pathing now. It’s a good news to me.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

on the move pulsing stealth. Seems like it could have uses for trash skips and swap it out for fights.

I was over the impression the stealth gyro stealthed 5 members but he was visible during the entire process.

Edit: Yes, I was right. “The scrapper’s elite utility provides a pulsing cloak field around it veiling you and your allies from enemies. The gyro itself remains visible.” From: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/meet-the-scrapper-engineers-elite-specialization/

So it’s going to be effectively useless for skipping, since the gyro will aggro. Right?

Also you won’t be able to swap out for fights in raids.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

on the move pulsing stealth. Seems like it could have uses for trash skips and swap it out for fights.

I was over the impression the stealth gyro stealthed 5 members but he was visible during the entire process.

Edit: Yes, I was right. “The scrapper’s elite utility provides a pulsing cloak field around it veiling you and your allies from enemies. The gyro itself remains visible.” From: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/meet-the-scrapper-engineers-elite-specialization/

So it’s going to be effectively useless for skipping, since the gyro will aggro. Right?

Also you won’t be able to swap out for fights in raids.

Pets will not be aggroed in that sense. Stealth up a ranger and go past an enemy with an unstealthed “passive” pet and you’ll go by just fine. It’ll work the same I assume.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Pets won’t aggro mobs if you’re out of combat, but they do aggro non-living mechanisms like turrets and traps :’(

Edit: excluding Necro’s minions. Stupid by default.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

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Jerus.4350

Pets won’t aggro mobs if you’re out of combat, but they do aggro non-living mechanisms like turrets and traps :’(

Can’t wait to die because my Gyro ran into a shiny in Aetherblade fractal.

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Iris Ng.9845

Pets won’t aggro mobs if you’re out of combat, but they do aggro non-living mechanisms like turrets and traps :’(

Can’t wait to die because my Gyro ran into a shiny in Aetherblade fractal.

“Valuable-Aetherized-Scrap-detected. Input: attempt-to-collect.”

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: SlyDevil.3952

SlyDevil.3952

Also you won’t be able to swap out for fights in raids.

The quote from a dev was you can’t hug the edge of boss areas/maybe the encounters to get ooc and swap things, but before encounters you will be able to adjust skills to match what comes next.

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Posted by: Rag.3258

Rag.3258

Do mobs aggro healturret while youre stealthed?

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Lmao! Anet likes rangers so much that they won’t even give a PoI episode for Druid.

https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/644904491263881216

Lol. It’s so ridiculous I’m not even angry. They’re literally making fools out of themselves… It’s soo gonna be a recurring joke.

P.S. Are we gonna get the legendary armor on release? or will it be… Soon? When It’s Ready? Is it On the Table, I wonder? … and wow, I like ranger, mes, guard and rev, it won’t be easy to pick one single armor O_o
(unless they make one model and you can swap both stats and weight class, ohh that would be so cool)

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

With how late Anet seems to be in pretty much every feature development of HoT, I dont think you should expect different types of Legendary Armor, but rather 1 model only.

They shall call it Legendary Outfit.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

With how late Anet seems to be in pretty much every feature development of HoT, I dont think you should expect different types of Legendary Armor, but rather 1 model only.

They shall call it Legendary Outfit.

:(
Imagine 3 different legendary armors, 1 per weight class… but with the same skin. Lols. And obviously looking the same for each different species.
I see it happening with such clarity that I’ll be knocked on my kitten if it proves to be untrue.