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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Woah, that’s a lot of F pressing! I’m glad my keyboard is almost new.
/copypastas links dutifully
Knew I could count on you, guise <3
And yeah, been doing some decent money with this wintersdee puzzle so I went and finished my viper heavy armor (watch them nerf burnzerker).
when and if I can get in the jp’s instance, alright :/ between that and fractals, half of my playtime is composed of loading screens, and I ain’t even joking.

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Posted by: PaxTheGreatOne.9472

PaxTheGreatOne.9472

Well since the interest for the dugeon thread has reached levels like the discussion of raid rewards, farming loctions for mining and a discussion on the beauty of empty dungeons, I would like tho say,

Thank you for continuing to create stuff and then removing it….

A-Nets track record should list the following
Most events from previous festivals have been removed though people still would like to aquire them
Most Season 1 events seem forgotten for the better part e.g.

  • Halloween tracks (Mad Memories)
  • Tower of nightmares,
  • The Marionette,
  • The secret of southsun (reworked,maybe we could get a small karka invasion in LA daily to reintegrate Southsun cove in this game),
  • Bazaar of the 4 Winds with it’s mini games
  • SAB (even though I hate it personally)
  • Dungeons (yes…. leaving dungeons to the side, with no rewards seems a bit extreme, why didn’t you double the tokenrewards or create a chest directly giving skins so we could complete the reward tracks. I sure as hell will not play PvP, WvW
    NP, if it’s reverted to playable state again, but PvP never, just because!
  • WVW? Well ‘nough said We have a queue on EBG and no-one playing the borders except a few PvE-ers doing dailies. No-one seemingly cares. NO-ONE! Even though the maps are nice estethically they are unfair, unwieldy, unpopulated and bound to all things WvW-ers asked, even begged, not to be included. The end result shows you are living a dream far away from this game and it’s players….

Some people make an effort to keep some communication alive to make sure there is still a community, but the hardcore community shifted partially to Reddit, as did some other developers causing a rift in comunications as well…

GL with it all Gaile…

I must say the release of HoT wasn’t the succes you expected, maybe in sales it was, but the reception and acceptance of content was horrid. For me HoT has been the worst experience in Gw2… mostly because I find it unplayable, I log in for 30 minutes of sometims a bit longer and I log out again, cause I do the daily fractals(easy) in a 15-20 minute block, then next time I log in a do daily and the 3rd time a day I notice there is NOTHING LEFT as DS, VB and all other maps take too long, are full, or unacccessible, I need points for masteries so I travel to them to find the are behind a timer/event barricade, but I’m mostly in empty maps… events get done only if I do ’m myself it seems…

DUNGEONS WERE ALWAYS OPEN, well except for COF, COE and Arah which -NORMALLY- had open instances somewhere else…through LFG… whihc took 15-30 minutes and paid for my ingame needs…

I fight over scraps now in my ascneded gear…. no longer a hero, but a beggar
unable to afford a guild hall, upgrades to new armor, or new specs….
The money I gain is put in food, and when I run out of cash I sell stuff from my bank. each time just feeling poorer and more miserable, the feeling of rewards are long gone, as is the fun in opening bags after bags after bags of junk just for the salvage-o-matic. Even the bags give bags now… but I haven’t gotten 1 drop from the new area’s yet with a new skin remotely usefull, yes I got a set of rare weapon, and some exotics but all OLD skins…
ALL new skins come from repeating story over and over and over and over and bugging on hearts and minds , bugging on hearts and minds and bugging on hearts and minds hasn’t made my experience better at all…. No really it is not okay.

I really want to play, but I do not have much fun at this time, the nerf in gold for dungeons was a usefull thing for the economy but I really hate A-Net as a company for it.

I really do not care for RAIDS, which are dungeons, problem is I missed the boat and as such who cares, it’s noot 15 minutes either, unless your party is ready and waiting.

23 lvl 80’s, 9 times map, 4ele, 4ncr, 3war, 3grd, 3rgr, 2thf, 2msm, 1eng, 1 rev.
Been There, Done That & Will do it again…except maybe world completion.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

A repost: Baby, I’ve got no gear

Please sing it in your mind with imaginary Gabe’s voice especially this part:

(Come on let’s go) Baby, I’ve got no gear
(The answer is no?) Baby, I’ve got no gear
(We really need you) Just tell them I have the flu
(To beat this boss) I’d rather kiss a krait demoss

or this

(Gorseval will be beaten) Woman, you’re beyond reason
(On this I think we both can agree) But I’m level seventy-three
(I just want to raid) Delusions of grandeur
[Both] Baby, (you)/I know
[Both] Baby, (you’ve)/I’ve got no gear

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: NikeEU.7690

NikeEU.7690

[DnT]::Nike::
www.twitch.tv/nike_dnt

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

wow….

thats… wow…..

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Posted by: TheRandomGuy.7246

TheRandomGuy.7246

New fractals confirmed. New take on fractal leaderboards is also confirmed.

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Posted by: HwaRyun.1807

HwaRyun.1807

New fractals confirmed.

Except new fractals are irrelevant before they even get added, unless ANet overhaul the dailies properly.

They have to find a place for them in the scale first, then they have to make sure that people run it. Even if it’s really fun nobody is going to run it with the current dailies system after the initial buzz of new content wears off, unless it’s quicker than swamp, but if it is quicker than swamp then the chances of it being interesting and fun are almost zero.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Will anyone try BnS? I just log for 56-67-77 and a day or two of raiding… so I need a change.

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Cya Precog have fun ! xoxo

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

What does precog means? Like precognition?
Not English native.

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Posted by: utred.6085

utred.6085

Well of precognition (the mesmer skill).

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Ryn.6459

Ups i thought he was answering me…. Guess i am not the center of the galaxy.

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

Does anyone have any real data on alacrity and quickness effectiveness?

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spoj.9672

Just had a mysterious gold fractal shield appear in my inventory after doing my dailies before opening my chests. I noticed it in my exotic bag. Since i only do page dailies usually i find it hard to believe i got it on a previous day and didnt notice. Can anyone confirm they do come from the page daily chests sometimes or boss chests? I havent done 50+ dailies for over a month either. No idea where it came from x)

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

Just got a mysterious gold fractal shield appear in my inventory after doing my dailies before opening my chests. I noticed it in my exotic bag. Since i only do page dailies usually i find it hard to believe i got it on a previous day and didnt notice. Can anyone confirm they do come from the page daily chests sometimes or boss chests? I havent done 50+ dailies for over a month either. No idea where it came from x)

I believe I got a golden scepter weapon from a daily page box a few days ago, but that has been the only time I have ever gotten one from it.

“We have now left Reason and Sanity Junction. Next stop, Looneyville.”

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Miku Lawrence.6329

Does anyone have any real data on alacrity and quickness effectiveness?

I guess nobody bothered redoing an optimal rotation (after changing both casttimes and cooldowns of each skill) so no quickness/alacrity is gone to waste with an auto when you have a better skill on your 3rd engi kit, for instance.

If you’re not after the optimal vacuum rotation it’s possible to pick a mesmer bud to give you alacrity and quickness while you record one of those 30 second rotation videos, then manually add your combatlog (as common DPSmeters either suck or will acount for mesmer’s dps too). Then just paste every skill in order into a spreadsheet which will calculate theoretical dps (25 mights, banners, etc).

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Posted by: Mortifer.2946

Mortifer.2946

Just had a mysterious gold fractal shield appear in my inventory after doing my dailies before opening my chests. I noticed it in my exotic bag. Since i only do page dailies usually i find it hard to believe i got it on a previous day and didnt notice. Can anyone confirm they do come from the page daily chests sometimes or boss chests? I havent done 50+ dailies for over a month either. No idea where it came from x)

I got a golden fractal pistol from doing level 40 or so. My girlfriend got golden fractal mace from doing level 30.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

Does anyone have any real data on alacrity and quickness effectiveness?

I guess nobody bothered redoing an optimal rotation (after changing both casttimes and cooldowns of each skill) so no quickness/alacrity is gone to waste with an auto when you have a better skill on your 3rd engi kit, for instance.

If you’re not after the optimal vacuum rotation it’s possible to pick a mesmer bud to give you alacrity and quickness while you record one of those 30 second rotation videos, then manually add your combatlog (as common DPSmeters either suck or will acount for mesmer’s dps too). Then just paste every skill in order into a spreadsheet which will calculate theoretical dps (25 mights, banners, etc).

I don’t really care about optimal. Just would like to see some data. Everyone is like alacrity is super strong but is it? There are so many things which reduce its effectiveness.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Yeah if anything i was surprised they decided to hit alacrity instead of quickness.

Alacrity needs to become a true boon though. That will be some small compensation for the nerf.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

I took ele as an example with some quick math not accounting for aftercasts on mesmer subforum :
It gives me that current alacrity boosts Firecamping Ele’s damage by 77% in a 180 second rotation.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

And with my math Firestaff rotation becomes 31% shorter so you can do it 45% more often, but you also lose 5 Fireballs and 1 Lava Font. I would estimate that rotation is 10% weaker so that 145% becomes 130% which means a 30% damage increase.

With quickness and alacrity, 37% faster rotation which means 59% more rotations. Only misses 1 Fireball so ~58% more damage.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Will anyone try BnS? I just log for 56-67-77 and a day or two of raiding… so I need a change.

Been playing it over the weekend now and having good fun so far. Never really been a big fan of pvp in MMOs but BnS is quickly changing that. Feels more like a fighting game than a MMO.

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Opens up for f2p on 19th, founders have been playing since friday when they opened for headstart. Has both EU and NA regions with dozen servers on each.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Windrest server?

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Posted by: bladex.9502

bladex.9502

Windrest server?

Windrest has about 50% of the population atm so if you don’t have premium you’re gonna have insane login queues

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Windrest server?

Windrest has about 50% of the population atm so if you don’t have premium you’re gonna have insane login queues

Yeah I’m on Windrest but for people without premium it’s better to pick any other server. Queues can get pretty long even for premium players.

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

@Taku @Bladex you have just saved me a lot of time. XD

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

So what EU server should one look for?

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Posted by: bladex.9502

bladex.9502

So what EU server should one look for?

I’m on Ebon Hall, its low/mid population and mainly PvE focused atm.
But the game isn’t even completely released yet, the only numbers available are those of the people that bought the expensive founders packs and pre-registered their names.
Just avoid going on Windrest if you don’t have premium membership and you should be fine

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I skimmed over a couple of threads; read the expression “open more room for diversity” about 5 times in less than 3 threads; read the acronym “VG” and the ever-present “elitist” put together one time too many; more than I could possibly count…
Threw up a little.

Diversity.
Can’t deal with this kitten.
/rpg

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

I’d be impressed if I could log in betwen the queues and the patches/maintenances. I love GW2 for those only two points.

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Posted by: JTGuevara.9018

JTGuevara.9018

I think you guys should reconsider dungeons. At the very least, they need maintenance and people still do play them. Also put the rewards back in them, same with fractals.

Whatever you guys do, DON’T focus on raids. MMO’s have been down that road before. History should not be constantly repeated.

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Posted by: Elomite.2396

Elomite.2396

woweeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Posted by: Elomite.2396

Elomite.2396

honestly how do u kitten up a good game this bad

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

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Cyninja.2954

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

Game must be super interesting if you find the time to post nonsense on a different games message board in a thread which even has nothing to do with your message.

Then again, have to advertise mediocre games that underperform expectations don’t we?

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

Game must be super interesting if you find the time to post nonsense on a different games message board in a thread which even has nothing to do with your message.

Then again, have to advertise mediocre games that underperform expectations don’t we?

Ok. So to keep on topic. I cant get into BnS, so after I finished the witcher 3, I tried again d3. And I am surprised how enjoyable is now (just did the main story and drop it back then). So I gonna stay with d3 til bdo is out.

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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spoj.9672

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

Game must be super interesting if you find the time to post nonsense on a different games message board in a thread which even has nothing to do with your message.

Then again, have to advertise mediocre games that underperform expectations don’t we?

Someones seriously edgy.

I tried the character creation tool last night. Its too much for my simple brain. But it looks like we can share designs. Tamers look best but i want to play Sorceror. So ill prob just download a design someone else made and then tweak slightly from that… When the game eventually comes out.

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deSade.9437

I can design it for you, no problem <3 but you should give yourself more time to learn and bend those sliders to your will. They’re rather… obedient.
I like that tamer! But I don’t know if I’ll end up getting the game after all. Chances are it’s pretty and a kittenload of grind… and not much else.
(nobody recognised Liv Tyler, seriously? I either did a kitten poor job or you’re all a bunch of sissies)

I tried witcher 3, loved the combat to bits (even if it’s too much like sword ranger), then got bored with the horrible 10-15 storyline and quit. In every godkitten rpg ever but DAI (that’s why I liked it so much?) there’s the “Chapter In A Huge City [that looks the same everywhere you go] Full Of Meaningless Sidequests And Tons Of Running Around”, a bad habit I personally find disgusting. You know, just having a checklist: talk to 1, talk to 2, talk to 3, go back, teleport. I wish developers lost this obsession with the “city chapter” already because it slows the story to a crawl.

Other than that, waiting for the weekly raid/fracs whatever then… then you realise you can’t commit to sittin afk in an open world map for 2 hours and log off. Weehee.

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fishball.7204

Finally a benefit to being Oceanic! No BnS queues ha.

BnS is pretty new and shiny to me with some great things such as new PvE content, semi decent combat system, customizable UI, solid class balances, pretty fun dungeons etc. I’ll probably play it on and off casually while retaining GW2 and wait fro ANet to add new content.

The biggest gripes to me in BnS are the 48h TP listing limits, spam bots, 50 block list maximum, slow item salvaging and the linearity of the open world.

There’s definitely stuff ANet can learn from them, especially the insane amount of dev communication those guys are giving compared to GW2.

FOR THE GREEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

Do remember that BnS has been out longer than GW2 in the east and west is far off from the newer content/balance patches that have happened over that past 4 years.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

The sorceror looks almost like liv Tyler by default.

So I didn’t recognise ur take on her because its different. Still pretty good.

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Cereal.5127

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

Game must be super interesting if you find the time to post nonsense on a different games message board in a thread which even has nothing to do with your message.

Then again, have to advertise mediocre games that underperform expectations don’t we?

Wow you’re really upset.

The game’s not out, it comes out in march.

I imagine if it didn’t meet expectations, they wouldn’t be localizing it for the west, though.

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

Game must be super interesting if you find the time to post nonsense on a different games message board in a thread which even has nothing to do with your message.

Then again, have to advertise mediocre games that underperform expectations don’t we?

Wow you’re really upset.

The game’s not out, it comes out in march.

I imagine if it didn’t meet expectations, they wouldn’t be localizing it for the west, though.

Why would I be upset?

I’m not the one hijacking a thread with a topic which has nothing to do with:

A. Guild Wars 2
B. the thread itsself
C. on an issue that had quite a few people rilled or confused

I’m pretty sure the BDO has its own forums and community groups where people are stocked about the game. I just find the notion to bring these topics to other MMO forums sad and pointless.

We get it, you’ve found a new toy to hope for. It’s not like this hasn’t happened before. Oh look, a new MMO that is going to be better in every single way than all the ones before it (see latest BnS hype which is slowly dying down).

The only reason for people to do steps 1-3 is to aggravate others due to boredom or whatever other reason. There are subgroups, forums, communities, etc. these discussions are there for. This thread is certainly not it.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

oh god my hands are cramping all DEM SLIDERSSSS

Tamer master race. Or rather, master class.

Game must be super interesting if you find the time to post nonsense on a different games message board in a thread which even has nothing to do with your message.

Then again, have to advertise mediocre games that underperform expectations don’t we?

Wow you’re really upset.

The game’s not out, it comes out in march.

I imagine if it didn’t meet expectations, they wouldn’t be localizing it for the west, though.

Why would I be upset?

I’m not the one hijacking a thread with a topic which has nothing to do with:

A. Guild Wars 2
B. the thread itsself
C. on an issue that had quite a few people rilled or confused

I’m pretty sure the BDO has its own forums and community groups where people are stocked about the game. I just find the notion to bring these topics to other MMO forums sad and pointless.

We get it, you’ve found a new toy to hope for. It’s not like this hasn’t happened before. Oh look, a new MMO that is going to be better in every single way than all the ones before it (see latest BnS hype which is slowly dying down).

The only reason for people to do steps 1-3 is to aggravate others due to boredom or whatever other reason. There are subgroups, forums, communities, etc. these discussions are there for. This thread is certainly not it.

In case you didnt know this thread is a community thread. There is no set in stone topic. These threads were originally created as a casual chat platform for the community. As members of the dungeon community we are free to post a few offtopic things so long as we dont go overboard. Going to the BD forums would serve absolutely no purpose since i want to discuss such off topic matters with other guildwars 2 dungeon community members.

There are countless of off topic posts in this thread, part 1 and part 2. You are the first to get upset over it.

If anything you are the only one trying to aggravate others. Dont be a kitten.

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

In case you didnt know this thread is a community thread.

Yes, and the topic at hand are dungeons in GW2. It’s not a general community thread or a thread about MMOs in general.

These threads were originally created as a casual chat platform for the community. As members of the dungeon community we are free to post a few offtopic things so long as we dont go overboard.

Says who? Only because the mods are to lazy to clean this up does not mean you can go off topic and advertise for other MMOs (or be kitten about getting called out on it). Also the thread got started to get derailed 7 days ago. Before that there was at least a minor semblance of the responses being directed at GW2 or dungeons.

Going to the BD forums would serve absolutely no purpose since i want to discuss such off topic matters with other guildwars 2 dungeon community members.

So get on ts, skype, a neutral forum, guild chat, etc. (its 2016, there are enough channels to communicate). The current discussion about BDO aren’t even related to dungeons there. It’s just smoke and mirrors to advertise in a dead topic which does not get closed due to mods sleeping.

There are countless of off topic posts in this thread, part 1 and part 2. You are the first to get upset over it.

If anything you are the only one trying to aggravate others. Dont be a kitten.

I wouldn’t care if this nonsense wasn’t pushed to the top of the forum every time nonsense gets posted effectively pushing useful threads further down.

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dlonie.6547

the thread got started to get derailed 7 days ago. Before that there was at least a minor semblance of the responses being directed at GW2 or dungeons.

7/10

And 2/10 for mah broken gif

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

Oh dear, we cant even keep our little place.
Cyninja, why dony you check the thread number 1 and 2. Maybe then you will undrrstand

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Fun time, a poster is trying to police a community’s thread? You know what, if you don’t like what you’ve seen here, go a head and report the posts you think are violating the rules. For better or worse, this thread represents the interest of the dungeon (forum posting) community, and if their interest deviates somewhere outside the intended dungeon topics, it should serve up as a warning to our dear devs that their content is becoming obsolete. So please stop crossing our knit party and make your own thread for the more important matters, okay?

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

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