Chat changes affecting EotM!
facepalm they didn’t think this through uh?
Being that EoTM is just a karma train, the only thing needed to communicate is “clockwise” and “counter-clockwise.” I’m sure GW2 players are smart enough to learn these two words in a variety of languages.
so they implement what the forums have being crying about, and now u gonna start bs’ting that its again not good…
As you can read in the first sentence: you can choose to disable/enable this function, you no want, u no need to use.
facepalm they didn’t think this through uh?
People complained about seeing other languages in EotM too, I don’t know if people await Anet to be gods when the issue is first and oremost caused by the players who are disrespectful enough to insult everyone people speaking another language.
Being that EoTM is just a karma train, the only thing needed to communicate is “clockwise” and “counter-clockwise.” I’m sure GW2 players are smart enough to learn these two words in a variety of languages.
I’m sad to hear it’s that for you, but I and many others like to play WvW there too.
We didn’t ask for a chat filter, we asked for smart merging of servers to mega-maps (so basically what ANet promised before the patch).
And as a lot of people do not read patch notes or the forums, you can expect a default setting to off causing mayhem.
Bill Kilgore – [BIER] –
I don’t know how anyone else feels about this but my reaction was the same as I had to the profanity filter – turned it off as soon as I logged in and I’ll hopefully forgot it even exists before long.
I understand some people don’t like to see other languages but this is not a fix for that, it’s just creating a new range of problems alongside it.
Being that EoTM is just a karma train, the only thing needed to communicate is “clockwise” and “counter-clockwise.” I’m sure GW2 players are smart enough to learn these two words in a variety of languages.
I don’t think you’ve understood how this new option works. If you’re on an English language server (for example) the game now defaults to hiding everything said by anyone on a French, German or Spanish server.
No matter what language they say it in, or whether you’re able to understand it or not. It just won’t appear so you’d never know they said anything at all.
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
so they implement what the forums have being crying about, and now u gonna start bs’ting that its again not good…
As you can read in the first sentence: you can choose to disable/enable this function, you no want, u no need to use.
It’s on by default. Majority of people don’t read update notes (How do I know? Check map chat/guild chat after updates, and see all the stupid questions that are all in the update notes!). So they won’t know what’s going on. The thing is good, I’m not against it. Just don’t make it on by default.
I don’t know how anyone else feels about this but my reaction was the same as I had to the profanity filter – turned it off as soon as I logged in and I’ll hopefully forgot it even exists before long.
I understand some people don’t like to see other languages but this is not a fix for that, it’s just creating a new range of problems alongside it.
Being that EoTM is just a karma train, the only thing needed to communicate is “clockwise” and “counter-clockwise.” I’m sure GW2 players are smart enough to learn these two words in a variety of languages.
I don’t think you’ve understood how this new option works. If you’re on an English language server (for example) the game now defaults to hiding everything said by anyone on a French, German or Spanish server.
No matter what language they say it in, or whether you’re able to understand it or not. It just won’t appear so you’d never know they said anything at all.
Correction: actually it depends on client language. There are people who play an English client on non-English servers, I believe.
facepalm they didn’t think this through uh?
People complained about seeing other languages in EotM too, I don’t know if people await Anet to be gods when the issue is first and oremost caused by the players who are disrespectful enough to insult everyone people speaking another language.
You didn’t get the change either. It’s client language based. If someone has English client, and you have too, they can still insult you in another language and you will see it unless you block them!
There are also lots of people playing a localized client on international servers.
I’m one of them.
Bill Kilgore – [BIER] –
I like the filter, but I agree that it shouldn’t be on by default.
Where’s the option to allow/view all languages? I’m looking at options and it seems I’m pigeoned holed to pick one. I kinda liked seeing all, gave me a reason to work on learning german again XD.
Let’s see…If it is not on by default, then no one that reads the patch notes knows about it, and (for them, probably the majority) the problem continues to exist.
If it is on by default, everyone (that it might concern) is made aware of it, and can choose to enable it, or not.
Considering so few read patch notes, according to statements on the forums, it probably is not the worst way of bringing it game-wide to attention.
Where’s the option to allow/view all languages? I’m looking at options and it seems I’m pigeoned holed to pick one. I kinda liked seeing all, gave me a reason to work on learning german again XD.
Turns out the chat menu has it’s own options menu (button in the top left corner). I never noticed it until today.
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
Let’s see…If it is not on by default, then no one that reads the patch notes knows about it, and (for them, probably the majority) the problem continues to exist.
If it is on by default, everyone (that it might concern) is made aware of it, and can choose to enable it, or not.
Considering so few read patch notes, according to statements on the forums, it probably is not the worst way of bringing it game-wide to attention.
Well I look at it like this: if it’s on by default, and people don’t know about it, it ruins gameplay. If it’s not on by default, and people don’t know about it, players and their preferences can ruin the gameplay. I say it’s not good if the game itself ruins gameplay.
so they implement what the forums have being crying about, and now u gonna start bs’ting that its again not good…
As you can read in the first sentence: you can choose to disable/enable this function, you no want, u no need to use.
the problem with that is that a big chunk of players will not know about this as they dont read the patch notes (after every patch there are tons of players asking what is new/different) and by enabling it by default they may wonder why they dont see any other languages but only a few will really look into it…
I don’t know how anyone else feels about this but my reaction was the same as I had to the profanity filter – turned it off as soon as I logged in and I’ll hopefully forgot it even exists before long.
I understand some people don’t like to see other languages but this is not a fix for that, it’s just creating a new range of problems alongside it.
Being that EoTM is just a karma train, the only thing needed to communicate is “clockwise” and “counter-clockwise.” I’m sure GW2 players are smart enough to learn these two words in a variety of languages.
I don’t think you’ve understood how this new option works. If you’re on an English language server (for example) the game now defaults to hiding everything said by anyone on a French, German or Spanish server.
No matter what language they say it in, or whether you’re able to understand it or not. It just won’t appear so you’d never know they said anything at all.
Correction: actually it depends on client language. There are people who play an English client on non-English servers, I believe.
definitly – i am one (i am german, play on dzagonur (german server) and have my client set to english) and most of my friends have the same settings…
Oh, I know the solution. Make it a CHECKBOX. Something like “Hide messages from players with other client language” or “Show only your client language messages from other players” Everyone is happy now ^^
That is pretty stupid, just because someone is using a non english version of the client doesn’t mean they can’t talk english
Oh, I know the solution. Make it a CHECKBOX. Something like “Hide messages from players with other client language” or “Show only your client language messages from other players” Everyone is happy now ^^
D’oh?
I don’t mind reading French or Spanish in chat. I don’t understand it, but that’s not the real problem… I’m German, I play on a German server, but my client is set to English (because the german translation is often wrong or confusing). If a player from another German server (that has his language set to German) writes something in mapchat, I can’t read it – because our server is not the same, our client language is not the same and they most likely are not in our guild or on my friendlist as well…
I would like to turn off Spanish and French and Russians in mapchat, but that forces me to turn off those other players too… Maybe we could have a list of available languages and turn them on/off separately?
Could look like that:
_________________________________________________
| Only show chat from players using following client languages:
|
| [x] English
| [x] German
| [ ] French
| [ ] Spanish
| [ ] Bork Bork Bork
| [ … ]
|_________________________________________________
I think this could be a satisfying option for all of us…
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I don’t mind reading French or Spanish in chat. I don’t understand it, but that’s not the real problem… I’m German, I play on a German server, but my client is set to English (because the german translation is often wrong or confusing). If a player from another German server (that has his language set to German) writes something in mapchat, I can’t read it – because our server is not the same, our client language is not the same and they most likely are not in our guild or on my friendlist as well…
I would like to turn off Spanish and French and Russians in mapchat, but that forces me to turn off those other players too… Maybe we could have a list of available languages and turn them on/off separately?
Could look like that:
_________________________________________________
| Only show chat from players using following client languages:
|
| [x] English
| [x] German
| [ ] French
| [ ] Spanish
| [ ] Bork Bork Bork
| [ … ]
|_________________________________________________I think this could be a satisfying option for all of us…
And definitely don’t make it default. Let everyone set it up.
Where’s the option to allow/view all languages? I’m looking at options and it seems I’m pigeoned holed to pick one. I kinda liked seeing all, gave me a reason to work on learning german again XD.
Turns out the chat menu has it’s own options menu (button in the top left corner). I never noticed it until today.
lol, thanks XD
That should be something they show you when you log in game first time >.> (and again for changes like this, to alert people to it.)
Being that EoTM is just a karma train, the only thing needed to communicate is “clockwise” and “counter-clockwise.” I’m sure GW2 players are smart enough to learn these two words in a variety of languages.
you can be speaking german to a german player, but if your client language is english, he won’t see what you were saying. Remember, this doesn’t filter languages spoken. It filters everything that is being spoken from a specific client.
In other words, it is another “if the world gives you bugs, don’t fix bugs, make a workaround that disables something else” famous Anet solution.
Remember, remember, 15th of November
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I’m usually the first to go defend Anet on their choices, but this one is just… bad.
I’m French. I play on a French server. But, like most people who’ve dabbled in MMORPGs for a while, I’ve learnt my fair share of English, enough to communicate easily with non-French players (in my case, it’s even better, i’ve also learnt enough german and spanish to understand the basics).
Suddenly, when I want to play on other language servers (i’m looking at you guys, amazing Desolationners !), it’s like I’m not there. Worse, now with the Megaserver, I don’t have the choice to be put with ppl with other languages. People who likely won’t have changed the option, because they won’t know it was there and they don’t read patch notes, especially when they are not advertised on the site. (it took me more than a year and a half to figure out there as a way to put timestamp in chat…)
So suddenly, it’s like I am ignored by potentially most of the map. Bad, bad move? I could very well be speaking english, my client is French, no one will see it. That’s effectively building a real wall based on the language barrier to destroy the feeling of community that was the strong point of the game.
Another example. In order to follow some guides on skin unlocking, I’m currently playing in English. My whole server now ignores me. And I’ve sometimes before switched to an english client, just to experience a different experience with different texts and voices (and to be able to use the /wiki command… which doesn’t work well in other languages !) … now I can still do so, at the price of being read by the pther players…
I think players who don’t want to see other languages don’t understand what a MMO is for, but OK, if they really want, they can shut us all off. But don’t make it by default.
If a player REALLY wants to only see his language, he’ll be able to do it. For the majority of players, I’m sure it’s not a problem.
Just tried Tequatl on an overflow where 99 percent of the people must have had another language set up in their clients as myself (German that is). Almost all of them must have had that filter enabled by default and didn’t even notice it.
I’ve tried it in the Mapchat, I’ve tried it on Say, I’ve even tried to NOT be ignored via Emotechannel. No chance! This is the worst idea after all the others before.
Who cried for a chatfilter? We just wanted a better sorting per language. I never wanted English to disappear for me, I never wanted to be ignored because I like to play the game in another language as other people I might comunicate with because I do NOT refuse to speak English, even if my native language is German.
But now I’ll be ignored, even if I have this option switched off because others haven’t. Does Anet really want to chase their players away or what’s up with that? Do they wish to close the EU servers entirely, to have the remaining players join NA? So it’s only NA and CN left? No? but it just starts to feel like that…
Wouldn’t worry about the chat language filter.. as far as I can tell it doesn’t work anyway.
Been on three maps and EotM today.. my language server is English, I have got the language filter on and still see dutch, german and all manner of other lingo..
Don’t get me wrong, I couldn’t careless where your from and what language you speak but there is no point having this tool in the first place imo when a language can be set to one thing as a default and then they simply start spurting out all there guild spam, chat spam, profanities, LFG spam etc and general chit caht in a different language endlessly.
Someone back at base, as ever, couldn’t be bothered to think it through properly or even be bothered to test it properly imo.
Wouldn’t worry about the chat language filter.. as far as I can tell it doesn’t work anyway.
Been on three maps today.. my language server is English, I have got the language filter on and still see dutch, german and all manner of other lingo..
Don’t get me wrong, I couldn’t careless where your from and what language you speak but there is no point having this tool in the first place imo when a language can be set to one thing as a default and then they simply start spurting out all there guild spam, chat spam, profanities, LFG spam etc and general chit caht in a different language endlessly.Someone back at base, as ever, couldn’t be bothered to think it through properly or even be bothered to test it properly imo.
It DOES indeed work.
Of f course you still see German or dutch around. It doesn’t filter by language, but per client.
So if your client is set to only show English, you will only see what people with their clients set to English type. Off course a player with his client set to English can write something in German you might read.
But Players who set their clients to German and write in English are just filtered. See the problem here?
Ok, i’ve tried a few thigs, it doesn’t seem to be locked by the client language. I was in a french QD with my english client and the option toggled, and could still see the text. Tried to restart the game, it didn’t change. I guess it takes your home world language rather than your client language.
EDIT : I may be mistaken, I forgot you always see what people from your world say…
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Ok, i’ve tried a few thigs, it doesn’t seem to be locked by the client language. I was in a french QD with my english client and the option toggled, and could still see the text. Tried to restart the game, it didn’t change. I guess it takes your home world language rather than your client language.
Regular chat or /me emotes?
Ok, i’ve tried a few thigs, it doesn’t seem to be locked by the client language. I was in a french QD with my english client and the option toggled, and could still see the text. Tried to restart the game, it didn’t change. I guess it takes your home world language rather than your client language.
Regular chat or /me emotes?
Regular chat. But I edited my post, I was in my home world, thus I could read everybody and everybody could read me. SO my “findings” are irrelevant.
Ok, i’ve tried a few thigs, it doesn’t seem to be locked by the client language. I was in a french QD with my english client and the option toggled, and could still see the text. Tried to restart the game, it didn’t change. I guess it takes your home world language rather than your client language.
Regular chat or /me emotes?
Regular chat. But I edited my post, I was in my home world, thus I could read everybody and everybody could read me. SO my “findings” are irrelevant.
Ah right!
ArenaNet, not thinking ahead when it comes to foreseeable problems. I have indeed noticed that, not fair if DE/FR speaks English to command such and they are instant ignored on team chat.
Asura thing.
And what happens to French Canadians, most using a French client game and stuck on NA servers. Will they all be ignored by default now even if typing in english?
How many bandaids does it take to cure a brain concussion, Anet?
And what happens to French Canadians, most using a French client game and stuck on NA servers. Will they all be ignored by default now even if typing in english?
How many bandaids does it take to cure a brain concussion, Anet?
As long as you’re not amongst your homeworldpeople and others have that opftion toggled, willingly or unwillingly, as it is ON by default… Yes, you are.
And I can feel your pain, really. Even in the EU using a French or German, even a spanish client makes you a minority compared to all the people (even French, German or Spanish ones do use an English client for some reasons) wo play in English.
To make this determine if you’re blocked by default or not is just not right. It’s a good thing for intolerant individuals that can’t stand anything but their own native language, but they could toggle it if needed, it shouldn’t be ON by default. Plus, nobody does really miss people that disappear in their sweet little bubble if toggling this option on.