Guild Wars 2

Just say no… .

(OP) enough said. . .

Orc Slayer.2780:

Orangensaft.7139:

so how do you recommend to give laurels to the players instead?

in a way that only pro games / hardcore gamers can obtain them and everyone with less than 4 hours/day cant get them?

Please refrain from asking questions until you have finished reading the ENTIRE post . Thank you

you are right.. sryyy^^

Orangensaft.7139:

everyone with less than 4 hours/day cant get them?

It takes you four hours to do the daily? Usually takes me half an hour or so to knock it off, and that’s usually doing the stuff I normally do.

Many of them just ‘do themselves’ while you’re busy doing others. Really, it’s not onerous. And you don’t have to do them every day, you’re just choosing to convince yourself you have to.

Orangensaft.7139:

so how do you recommend to give laurels to the players instead?

in a way that only pro games / hardcore gamers can obtain them and everyone with less than 4 hours/day cant get them?

Please refrain from asking questions until you have finished reading the ENTIRE post . Thank you

Because you just need to have everything right now. Can’t miss a day oh no that would be terrible.

Yeah…I don’t think many folks actually read the post. I don’t care that it only takes 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 4 hours…the point is you shouldn’t make players feel like they NEED to log in every day to get something they are after. As I said…give 7 laurels for a weekly, or make the monthly 30 or 40…I don’t care…but stop making players feel they should log in every freaking day.

It’s also no about needing something right now. It’s silly to assume that a player won’t feel the desire to log in if it’s the only way to get some currency they want for something, and that they won’t feel they’ve missed out if they don’t.

They want you to feel the need to login. Doing so means more people are playing every day, keeping the game active.

The key lesson to learn here is self control.

I usually get less than 2 hours of game play per day during the week. When I am in between my classes on campus. Dailies usually take me less than 30mins of playing normally unless there are many annoying options (I haven’t played any fractals yet, nor do i do WvW) so I may take five minutes to do a jp or something. I just started doing spvp few days ago and that daily is very fast too.
What I don’t understand is the falling behind part. The obligation to do the daily or falling behind. I’m curious who you are racing against (everyone I guess…). You just can’t not play and expect progression to your goal. That view simply leads to the “every moment I’m not playing is a moment I’m falling behind” if laurels were to become farmable. What you are suggesting (consolidating laurel rewards to monthlies and weeklies) actually makes the problem you described worse since failure to complete those things hurts worse and the “left behind” attitude becomes a larger concern.
Dailies really are the best compromise, if you fail to do one its not really a big deal you have lost one laurel, and one can’t farm it and get ahead of everyone else. It is fair that someone got to goal before me since they played while I did not. This isn’t a winner take all system, the goal is still waiting for me to approach it rather than disappearing with the winner.
I started playing GW2 again about a little over a month ago with the creation of a new character (last one was only lvl36) and have 40 some laurels. I only completed one daily this week (two midterm exams, one essay, and a birthday party), not much of a loss really.
The point is that daillies aren’t hard, nor is the failure to complete them very crippling. They are supposed to be a slow and steady avenue for laurel accumulation that is boosted somewhat significantly by the monthlies. Failing to complete a monthly will set you back quite a bit but significantly less so than if laurels were consolidated there. (25% of monthly laurels through monthly as opposed to 75%-100%).

Serephen.3420:

The key lesson to learn here is self control.

I love how people feel that somehow failings in the player are equivalent to good game design….somehow because a player feels a need to get something they want…a feeling that is, oh, human…that makes the design good and the players flawed.

I just want to know what it is you do all day that enables you to equate playing a video game with a “Job”. If you honestly consider running a few events in a video game “work”, what the heck do you do for a living?

yeah man if I don’t do my dailies I’m never going to get enough points to buy the next tier up of raiding gear and…

Oh wait…

I can just buy exotic gear at 80, and be done… and then everything else I do after that is just random fun…

Not if the weeklies are doable in one play session. Basically, all I’m saying it requiring people to log in once a week is preferable than daily to get their reward. Personally, I think it’s a terrible idea to attach any currency to some repetitive action…be it dailies, monthlies, grinding the same mob, etc.

Monthlies are fairly easy to complete at some point over a month…just like dailies are easy to complete in a bit of time over a day. The problem is giving players a feeling they need/should/whatever you want to call it every day to get their reward. I

You seem to like the grind need to log into the game to get something done running events well over 3hr binging to get all you want in one day? This is what your asking for when you say no to dailies. There is grind and there is dailies take your chose.

MistaMike.7356:

I just want to know what it is you do all day that enables you to equate playing a video game with a “Job”. If you honestly consider running a few events in a video game “work”, what the heck do you do for a living?

Is this really a difficult concept? If something makes a person feel like they have to, need to, should be doing something every day to get something they want, it becomes “like” a job…not equivalent, not the same as, not identical…but “like” it.

Running events is not work…it’s fun when I’m in the game. Feeling like there is a pull to log in every day for 30 mins, an hour, whatever…even when I don’t really want to…is “LIKE” a job.

Dailies offer very little that you cannot get anywhere else in the game. Can get rings from Fractals and Accessories from Guild Missions. There is a few fluff items like minis and the potion, but other than that, you aren’t missing out on anything. If you are only able to get Ascended Rings/Accessories through the dailies/monthlies, why do you even need them? Unless you enjoy min/maxing, which I assume you don’t since you aren’t logging in for four hours a day, then you don’t need Ascended gear for anything.

If ArenaNet offered an Account Bound item that gave you infinite Ballista Blueprints for 35 laurels, but then suddenly remembered you don’t like WvWvW, would you feel inclined to do the dailies? The only urge you’re feeling is just left over from previous games literally forcing you to log in or fall behind in stats.

You loose out on:
Ring
9 Main Stat
5 Secondary Stat (x2)

Amulet
11 Main Stat
6 Secondary Stat

Accessory
10 Main Stat
5 Main Stat

And those numbers are tiny.

Kichwas.7152:

yeah man if I don’t do my dailies I’m never going to get enough points to buy the next tier up of raiding gear and…

Oh wait…

I can just buy exotic gear at 80, and be done… and then everything else I do after that is just random fun…

Except for the fact that ascended items are the next tier.

Dailies are a lazy replacement for actual content.

morrolan.9608:

Kichwas.7152:

yeah man if I don’t do my dailies I’m never going to get enough points to buy the next tier up of raiding gear and…

Oh wait…

I can just buy exotic gear at 80, and be done… and then everything else I do after that is just random fun…

Except for the fact that ascended items are the next tier.

The thing is that Ascended items are only needed in one event fractal and you only need about 20 to 25 ar and fractal give you these items in it self. Also once ppl have gotten these items they tend to find them not much stronger and truly they are not the next “tier” because they are more of a sub tier in that the different between rare and exotic is much bigger then that of exotic and Ascended.

If any thing the hyperbole reaction of parts of the community put ascended items into daily chest at such a high cost for the time delay that these daily allowed for. It makes it so you do not see the gap between the ppl who play all the time vs the ppl who only play some of the time.

The problem about dailies / monthlies, as I see it, is that they are “obligatory” to anyone who wants the top gear tier (Ascended) and don´t do Fractals. If you don´t do Fractals, you have to do dailies to acquire Ascended gear (And to be honest, I dont see dailies as a reality to anyone who wants to equip alts on Ascended gear, since it would take years just to get them the ascended jewels – so, in this case, its just “Do Fractals or be underpowered”).

And that´s the problem. They are not an incentive to play a certain content, but more like a necessity. Dailies, in my opinion, should work like Zaishen Quests in GW1. You got an extra incentive to play the daily content (that otherwise you wouldnt have any reason to – like missions you already got master on NM and HM, etc), but it didnt feel like you had to do them. Their rewards were just cosmetic. You didnt feel like being left behind for not doing it. You could skip a quest or two and that would be ok.

As things stands now, people are compelled to do dailies everyday to not be left behind, which is a shame. Where is the “Play the content because its fun, and not because you have to in order to get to the fun part”?

I and many others now only really login to do dailies. If they weren’t there we wouldn’t login at all

RoRo.8270:

I and many others now only really login to do dailies. If they weren’t there we wouldn’t login at all

When people say stuff like this it’s concerning in an mmo. But, I guess it’s better than not adding dailies.

Dont like dailies?
Dont do dailies.

Rizzy.8293:

Dont like dailies?
Dont do dailies.

I think the problem is that it’s one of the few ways to vertically progress. So it’s a choice of gimping yourself or not.

ScottBroChill.3254:

Rizzy.8293:

Dont like dailies?
Dont do dailies.

I think the problem is that it’s one of the few ways to vertically progress. So it’s a choice of gimping yourself or not.

First i must say the dont like dont do is not the best way to come at problems but there is something to be said about it. What it comes down to is that ppl are getting rewarded more then others and some ppl cant stand that. The truth of mmorpgs are all video games is that though who put more time into them will be rewarded more not just purely though items but though skills that they pick up by playing though games. At the end of things though who hate other getting rewarded more tend to well self defeat a lot “i cant get the very best so i cant get any thing good at all” this takes a lot away from the enjoyment of both games and life. In effect this is the argument of not having dailies “other ppl are getting more then me so i do not want them to be able to do what is letting them do this.”

It is bad only if they implement it like World of Warcraft does. Currently dailies on Guild Wars can be done by just playing. Sure you will miss that one achievement that will require you to actually give it some attention. But it is honestly not that bad.

Now, as far as exclusive currency for dailies, that I agree with you. There will be, one day I hope, a MMO that will really give you a choice to get the things you want by doing the things you like. That won’t force you to a certain type of gameplay that you don’t like just because that is part of an item you really want. Life is boring like that. Games shouldn’t copy it, in my humble opinion.

Until then, I believe ANet is doing a great job.

This is a VIDEO GAME folks, if you do not find it fun, do not keep playing.

The dailies on gw2 feel less like a chore than in any other mmo.

I dont feel compelled to do them at all, and yet always complete them, mostly without noticing, just by playing the game.

And if i miss one? Meh, its a laurel and some karma. No biggie.

Rash.6514:

Now, as far as exclusive currency for dailies, that I agree with you. There will be, one day I hope, a MMO that will really give you a choice to get the things you want by doing the things you like. That won’t force you to a certain type of gameplay that you don’t like just because that is part of an item you really want. Life is boring like that. Games shouldn’t copy it, in my humble opinion.

Until then, I believe ANet is doing a great job.

That mmo is called rift btw.

Cameirus.8407:

Rash.6514:

Now, as far as exclusive currency for dailies, that I agree with you. There will be, one day I hope, a MMO that will really give you a choice to get the things you want by doing the things you like. That won’t force you to a certain type of gameplay that you don’t like just because that is part of an item you really want. Life is boring like that. Games shouldn’t copy it, in my humble opinion.

Until then, I believe ANet is doing a great job.

That mmo is called rift btw.

That wasn’t my experience with Rift at all..though admittedly I played it only during the first six months. I felt forced into raiding, even though I didn’t want to raid. There was simply nothing else to do. Planarite as a currency was meaningless. You couldn’t even queue for dungeons without the prescribed gear…it was a nightmare.

About all I had left was some crappy achievements and collecting sparklies. Not my idea of a good game at all.

I wish they’d supplement them with bonuses that don’t go away once you’ve done them.

Like, in addition to Dailies and Monthlies, you also have a persistent 10% XP bonus in something random that day, like, from Krytan events, or Ascalonian kills.

As it is, I start to get bored once I’ve gotten my pity laurel.

Daily’s would be great, if they were to increase income not laurels.

You are not forced to do them. Even if you miss it that day, what do you really lose?
The laurels will only give you ascend gears, wich is not really primordial to have.
If you don’t like it you still got exotics to remplace them.

ScottBroChill.3254:

Rizzy.8293:

Dont like dailies?
Dont do dailies.

I think the problem is that it’s one of the few ways to vertically progress. So it’s a choice of gimping yourself or not.

I dont see that as a problem though.
its just a means to keep yourself occupied for now.

Its like Guildwars Zaishen Challenges.

Theres some stuff in Zaishen I refuse to do like Team Arenas, therefore I dont do them.

This is what Dailies are, the Gw2 version of Zaishen Challenges, its not gonna hurt you if you don’t wanna do them, but if you do them you get an incentive.

I don’t “feel” like I need to log in every day to do dailies, so I think this is just a personal problem you are suffering from. The worst that will happen is that you will miss gaining a few laurels. So what? Just do the dailies when you can/feel like it so it doesn’t feel like a job. Besides, dailies are fun little things to do for many players so there’s no reason to take that away from those who enjoy them just because certain individuals have this idea that they absolutely have to do it or else they are missing out on something.

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Oh here we go again. Dailies encourage people to play everyday without encouraging people to invest so much time per day. This rations people’s time and eventually, this is better for the game. Playing 10 hours in one instance can lead to burnout and eventually the player will play less and less of this 10-hour instances. Anet wants you to play the game for a long period of time, so they will ration the time it takes for you to get your stuff. Same principle why guild commendations are once a week only.

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

You’re not forced, and you gain no advantage, what’s the point of locking out people who don’t play every day? This game is made for people who play in moderation and then gives rewards to those who are committed to logging in every day. So which is it? A game you occasionally play, or one you must commit to in order to get rewards?

-edit, btw, I’ve only done 1 daily since they were introduced.

Copied from above cause I guess people skim or something.

Congratulations and welcome to an mmorpg game, where the point of the game is to have you log in everyday, so the company can make money. MMORPG’s aren’t really successful unless they have a hook to actually make people log in and play. What function does this serve you may ask? Well, one of the main reasons is to give the world population!! That’s right, if people just logged in for four hours a week on the weekend, then the world isn’t populated throughout the rest of the week.
That’s it for todays lesson on MMORPG mechanics, and why people don’t get it.

Edit: Why is world population important?, you may ask. Well because if people don’t see other people play, then “The game is dead!!” they say, and won’t play themselves and won’t try to turn others on to it. Population in the open world is very important to an mmorpg. After all, who buys one of those to never see another live player.

Nappychappy.7046:

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

You’re not forced, and you gain no advantage, what’s the point of locking out people who don’t play every day? This game is made for people who play in moderation and then gives rewards to those who are committed to logging in every day. So which is it? A game you occasionally play, or one you must commit to in order to get rewards?

-edit, btw, I’ve only done 1 daily since they were introduced.

Gain no advantage?
What you talking about Willis?

You get to trade in your laurels for awesome cosmetic stuff like minipets and unident dyes and even ascended accessories.

Again things that you DONT need, sure ascended trinkets and stuff are nice to have, so work for them for if you want, I only started playing Gw2 again 16 days ago and I have 16 laurels, how is this a chore?

Log in, nothing to do, look at dailies, do dailies, run a couple of dungeons, clear a map call it a night in 3 hours.

Do you take an entire day to do your dailies?

Dailies are something I do at the start and it takes 40 minutes tops.

I was watching the boys play pandaland today, lower level zones have tons of people in them, I’ve heard them cuss out loud after being ganked, or laughing their kitten off after ganking, those are the things that make people log in day after day. Also, building some attachment to you little pixel man/woman in the process.

One thing about this game, I give zero farks about any of my characters. But this guy, I luv em’, even though I no longer play and have no desire to play again esp after RAF.

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

You’re not forced, and you gain no advantage, what’s the point of locking out people who don’t play every day? This game is made for people who play in moderation and then gives rewards to those who are committed to logging in every day. So which is it? A game you occasionally play, or one you must commit to in order to get rewards?

-edit, btw, I’ve only done 1 daily since they were introduced.

Gain no advantage?
What you talking about Willis?

You get to trade in your laurels for awesome cosmetic stuff like minipets and unident dyes and even ascended accessories.

Again things that you DONT need, sure ascended trinkets and stuff are nice to have, so work for them for if you want, I only started playing Gw2 again 16 days ago and I have 16 laurels, how is this a chore?

Log in, nothing to do, look at dailies, do dailies, run a couple of dungeons, clear a map call it a night in 3 hours.

Do you take an entire day to do your dailies?

Dailies are something I do at the start and it takes 40 minutes tops.

Cosmedics, mini’s, ascend is an advantage? BTW, did you read where I said I only did 1 daily since they were introduced? I don’t think they are a chore because I don’t care about them; however ANet should stick it out with a design choice and stop jumping all over the place.

Nappychappy.7046:

I was watching the boys play pandaland today, lower level zones have tons of people in them, I’ve heard them cuss out loud after being ganked, or laughing their kitten off after ganking, those are the things that make people log in day after day. Also, building some attachment to you little pixel man/woman in the process.

One thing about this game, I give zero farks about any of my characters. But this guy, I luv em’, even though I no longer play and have no desire to play again esp after RAF.

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

You’re not forced, and you gain no advantage, what’s the point of locking out people who don’t play every day? This game is made for people who play in moderation and then gives rewards to those who are committed to logging in every day. So which is it? A game you occasionally play, or one you must commit to in order to get rewards?

-edit, btw, I’ve only done 1 daily since they were introduced.

Gain no advantage?
What you talking about Willis?

You get to trade in your laurels for awesome cosmetic stuff like minipets and unident dyes and even ascended accessories.

Again things that you DONT need, sure ascended trinkets and stuff are nice to have, so work for them for if you want, I only started playing Gw2 again 16 days ago and I have 16 laurels, how is this a chore?

Log in, nothing to do, look at dailies, do dailies, run a couple of dungeons, clear a map call it a night in 3 hours.

Do you take an entire day to do your dailies?

Dailies are something I do at the start and it takes 40 minutes tops.

Cosmedics, mini’s, ascend is an advantage? BTW, did you read where I said I only did 1 daily since they were introduced? I don’t think they are a chore because I don’t care about them; however ANet should stick it out with a design choice and stop jumping all over the place.

A marginal Advantage thats easy to get.
And yes Anet shouldnt have added them that much I agree, after saying no gear grind.

Thing is, you say you dont care, yet you are here giving cares.
Whats up with that?

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

I was watching the boys play pandaland today, lower level zones have tons of people in them, I’ve heard them cuss out loud after being ganked, or laughing their kitten off after ganking, those are the things that make people log in day after day. Also, building some attachment to you little pixel man/woman in the process.

One thing about this game, I give zero farks about any of my characters. But this guy, I luv em’, even though I no longer play and have no desire to play again esp after RAF.

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

You’re not forced, and you gain no advantage, what’s the point of locking out people who don’t play every day? This game is made for people who play in moderation and then gives rewards to those who are committed to logging in every day. So which is it? A game you occasionally play, or one you must commit to in order to get rewards?

-edit, btw, I’ve only done 1 daily since they were introduced.

Gain no advantage?
What you talking about Willis?

You get to trade in your laurels for awesome cosmetic stuff like minipets and unident dyes and even ascended accessories.

Again things that you DONT need, sure ascended trinkets and stuff are nice to have, so work for them for if you want, I only started playing Gw2 again 16 days ago and I have 16 laurels, how is this a chore?

Log in, nothing to do, look at dailies, do dailies, run a couple of dungeons, clear a map call it a night in 3 hours.

Do you take an entire day to do your dailies?

Dailies are something I do at the start and it takes 40 minutes tops.

Cosmedics, mini’s, ascend is an advantage? BTW, did you read where I said I only did 1 daily since they were introduced? I don’t think they are a chore because I don’t care about them; however ANet should stick it out with a design choice and stop jumping all over the place.

A marginal Advantage thats easy to get.
And yes Anet shouldnt have added them that much I agree, after saying no gear grind.

Thing is, you say you dont care, yet you are here giving cares.
Whats up with that?

Because I show support to other gamer’s who do?

I wish I had more support on the DR issues, but hey, if it doesn’t effect you, then who cares right?

Emosewa.9731:

MistaMike.7356:

I just want to know what it is you do all day that enables you to equate playing a video game with a “Job”. If you honestly consider running a few events in a video game “work”, what the heck do you do for a living?

Is this really a difficult concept? If something makes a person feel like they have to, need to, should be doing something every day to get something they want, it becomes “like” a job…not equivalent, not the same as, not identical…but “like” it.

Running events is not work…it’s fun when I’m in the game. Feeling like there is a pull to log in every day for 30 mins, an hour, whatever…even when I don’t really want to…is “LIKE” a job.

Some guildies spend all their play time in Fractal and never do they daily, they don’t care about it… So what ? They got their ascended gear through fractal + guild events.

Dailies are optional, if you don’t like the concept, don’t do them.

Nappychappy.7046:

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

I was watching the boys play pandaland today, lower level zones have tons of people in them, I’ve heard them cuss out loud after being ganked, or laughing their kitten off after ganking, those are the things that make people log in day after day. Also, building some attachment to you little pixel man/woman in the process.

One thing about this game, I give zero farks about any of my characters. But this guy, I luv em’, even though I no longer play and have no desire to play again esp after RAF.

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

Rizzy.8293:

Nappychappy.7046:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You are rewarded for playing the game.
What is the problem here??

Do you want to be rewarded for doing nothing??
Do you not want to be rewarded at all??

I just got back from not playing Gw2 for a week…

Did I lose anything?

No.

Am I going to be punished?

No.

Where in your diluted minds do you feel that the dailies MUST be done?

Why do you feel that doing a daily is “a chore?”

The word daily.

When x is given by doing x once a day and only once, it becomes a chore. Why not let people just get as many as they want in 1 sitting?

Because thats bad game design?
Oh I see you beaten the horrible ogre monster, take as many as my virgin daughters as you wish!

What the hell.

Do you not understand the part that you’re not forced to do them.
You have a freaking choice.

You’re not forced, and you gain no advantage, what’s the point of locking out people who don’t play every day? This game is made for people who play in moderation and then gives rewards to those who are committed to logging in every day. So which is it? A game you occasionally play, or one you must commit to in order to get rewards?

-edit, btw, I’ve only done 1 daily since they were introduced.

Gain no advantage?
What you talking about Willis?

You get to trade in your laurels for awesome cosmetic stuff like minipets and unident dyes and even ascended accessories.

Again things that you DONT need, sure ascended trinkets and stuff are nice to have, so work for them for if you want, I only started playing Gw2 again 16 days ago and I have 16 laurels, how is this a chore?

Log in, nothing to do, look at dailies, do dailies, run a couple of dungeons, clear a map call it a night in 3 hours.

Do you take an entire day to do your dailies?

Dailies are something I do at the start and it takes 40 minutes tops.

Cosmedics, mini’s, ascend is an advantage? BTW, did you read where I said I only did 1 daily since they were introduced? I don’t think they are a chore because I don’t care about them; however ANet should stick it out with a design choice and stop jumping all over the place.

A marginal Advantage thats easy to get.
And yes Anet shouldnt have added them that much I agree, after saying no gear grind.

Thing is, you say you dont care, yet you are here giving cares.
Whats up with that?

Because I show support to other gamer’s who do?

I wish I had more support on the DR issues, but hey, if it doesn’t effect you, then who cares right?

DR is kitten :>
Personally it should stop, its punishing real people not bots.

Dailies are not kitten :>
Ever played the first guildwars?
heard of Zaishen Challenges?

These are the dailies, You dont have to care about them if you dont want to do them.
Do them you get rewarded with Z coins and you can buy cool stuff with those. :>

And like what Nachtz says, You can get Ascended from doing Fractals.
You dont want to get ascended from doing Fractals, do dailies, you dont want to get ascended from dailies do fractals, so many choices.