Not sure why you are having such a hard time understanding I could not care less.
Because you’re ignoring the fact that DX11 improves fps. No matter how much you don’t care about graphics, fps in game that runs at 15 in zergs certainly needs it
Also ignoring the fact that most of the benefits of DX11 only benefits people that actually have DX11. The type of people that require Dx11 are generally smaller than the audience that play MMORPG. Besides, DX11 would just be something people like you ignore once you get and promptly go back to random QQing about other stuff.
^dude #9838742 playing on a pc from bestbuy who’ve never played a game in DX11, next
How cute, someone is trying to make a funny.
What you said would be true IF it wasn’t for the fact that I did build my own computer last year (i5 3570k oc to 4.5, nv 670, 8GB ram and blah blah blah, and just for fun bought a 27 inch 2560×1440 Ips monitor). I was planning on going all out with adding another 670, buying 2 more ips screens and bumping up the ram to 16, but I am in then I realize how little I care about graphics and I am out the point where graphics should be secondary to EVERYTHING else. Graphics are the things companies like Crytek use to hide behind their medicore shooter.
With that said, you are right in a way, I do sometimes wish I hadn’t spend that much money on something just to say “Looks nice” then promptly don’t care anymore.
wasn’t trying to be funny, just look at some posts on this thread, people don’t even know what dx11 is while saying “i don’t care about DX11” or “i don’t want it!!!!”. Its impossible to disagree about Crytek and everybody knows this. Just look at how much hate Ryse is currently getting, may have great graphics (i say may because its far from being as impressive as Crysis 3) but gameplay looks like the worst in years. Linear as kitten and on full QTE spam. But that’s Crytek, not every dev puts amazing looking graphics with garbage gameplay. For example, Watch Dogs, The Division, Destiny, MGS5 and TW3 all have great graphics while having some good gameplay (from the looks of it and from playing their prequels) and that’s what im looking for, good graphics AND good gameplay but for some companies that’s too much asking
You seem to misunderstand something or maybe it was my fault that I assume you read my earlier post, so let me spell it out for you.
I don’t mind if Arenanet adds directX 11, but it should be the very last thing on their checklist, after improving other aspects for the game.
The second thing I said is, generally speaking people like you wanting DirectX 11 or at least enough to make a post on the forums are generally the same type that would go “oh look dx11” then promptly go back to complaining about something else. DirectX 11 is nice, but it will be something that nobody bothers to care about in a few weeks.
Just to add all those other examples you gave, they are all nice but we haven’t played any of them to have an opinion on them. Crysis also looked nice and look how that turned out.
As u know im pro. ~Tomonobu Itagaki
This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
Not sure why you are having such a hard time understanding I could not care less.
Because you’re ignoring the fact that DX11 improves fps. No matter how much you don’t care about graphics, fps in game that runs at 15 in zergs certainly needs it
Also ignoring the fact that most of the benefits of DX11 only benefits people that actually have DX11. The type of people that require Dx11 are generally smaller than the audience that play MMORPG. Besides, DX11 would just be something people like you ignore once you get and promptly go back to random QQing about other stuff.
^dude #9838742 playing on a pc from bestbuy who’ve never played a game in DX11, next
How cute, someone is trying to make a funny.
What you said would be true IF it wasn’t for the fact that I did build my own computer last year (i5 3570k oc to 4.5, nv 670, 8GB ram and blah blah blah, and just for fun bought a 27 inch 2560×1440 Ips monitor). I was planning on going all out with adding another 670, buying 2 more ips screens and bumping up the ram to 16, but I am in then I realize how little I care about graphics and I am out the point where graphics should be secondary to EVERYTHING else. Graphics are the things companies like Crytek use to hide behind their medicore shooter.
With that said, you are right in a way, I do sometimes wish I hadn’t spend that much money on something just to say “Looks nice” then promptly don’t care anymore.
wasn’t trying to be funny, just look at some posts on this thread, people don’t even know what dx11 is while saying “i don’t care about DX11” or “i don’t want it!!!!”. Its impossible to disagree about Crytek and everybody knows this. Just look at how much hate Ryse is currently getting, may have great graphics (i say may because its far from being as impressive as Crysis 3) but gameplay looks like the worst in years. Linear as kitten and on full QTE spam. But that’s Crytek, not every dev puts amazing looking graphics with garbage gameplay. For example, Watch Dogs, The Division, Destiny, MGS5 and TW3 all have great graphics while having some good gameplay (from the looks of it and from playing their prequels) and that’s what im looking for, good graphics AND good gameplay but for some companies that’s too much asking
You seem to misunderstand something or maybe it was my fault that I assume you read my earlier post, so let me spell it out for you.
I don’t mind if Arenanet adds directX 11, but it should be the very last thing on their checklist, after improving other aspects for the game.
The second thing I said is, generally speaking people like you wanting DirectX 11 or at least enough to make a post on the forums are generally the same type that would go “oh look dx11” then promptly go back to complaining about something else. DirectX 11 is nice, but it will be something that nobody bothers to care about in a few weeks.
Just to add all those other examples you gave, they are all nice but we haven’t played any of them to have an opinion on them. Crysis also looked nice and look how that turned out.
This is an old revived thread so if you said something 2 months ago, well, i can’t just remember that. Crysis 1 looked good because previous Crytek game was Far Cry 1 which was good. Crysis 1 came out and lots of ppl liked it and it got really high scores everywhere. It was an okay game for me personally (would give it a 8/10), its the sequels that sucked, and that was seen in reviews as well (especially crysis 3 because all it had is graphics and a cool * bow). Another thing most ppl forget is Crytek is the owner of cryengine, this is why their two latest crysis games looked like tech demos. They may not care as much for their game to sell like a GTA5 would because they showcase their engine and i dunno if you’ve noticed but lots of next gen games and even mmo’s use it now. Crytek games sell their engine that’s why gameplay is ALWAYS shallow, generic and linear but they don’t care because their games look as good as it gets and that makes ppl talk about their games and companies to borrow their engine
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
plans changed or lied, we got a garbage engine.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Realize that this video is Beta and not completely finished. The game will also have large scale PVP and PVE battles with 0 performance impact. Aside from the texture pop the game looks beautiful, especially the character models.
Ah yes, a game that is currently in beta and it will have “large scale PVP and PVE battles with 0 performance impact”.
Quite funny how you can guarantee that an unfinished game will be able to do stuff like that without any impact (and it is also completely false, since there WILL ALWAYS be an impact on performance as long as the game actually uses internet access and such.
Realize that this video is Beta and not completely finished. The game will also have large scale PVP and PVE battles with 0 performance impact. Aside from the texture pop the game looks beautiful, especially the character models.
Ah yes, a game that is currently in beta and it will have “large scale PVP and PVE battles with 0 performance impact”.
Quite funny how you can guarantee that an unfinished game will be able to do stuff like that without any impact (and it is also completely false, since there WILL ALWAYS be an impact on performance as long as the game actually uses internet access and such.
whatever happens you know for a fact it won’t be as poor as gw2 when it comes to huge battles
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
whatever happens you know for a fact it won’t be as poor as gw2 when it comes to huge battles
That is a rather bold claim, and a rather silly one as well, since none of us can actually know anything until it gets released AND/IF they get as many people playing those modes as GW2.
whatever happens you know for a fact it won’t be as poor as gw2 when it comes to huge battles
That is a rather bold claim, and a rather silly one as well, since none of us can actually know anything until it gets released AND/IF they get as many people playing those modes as GW2.
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
edit"40-50fps in big zergs with three way SLI on 780’s won’t be achievable so saying what you did is pretty ignorant
Oh I have seen that thread, I tend to visit it when I need a laugh.
And saying that everyone have three way SLI on 780s would be less ignorant than me saying that people are having that high fps?
You can’t assume everyone is having issues just because you do. And it is quite possible that a “better” setup would generate worse result simply because of the game being optimized differently than specifically for that hardware.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
Now you’re being unreasonable. You’re on the forums a lot, you know well enough that even people running ridiculous overclocked processors and ridiculously overpriced graphics card in SLI have experienced between 10-20 FPS in zergs. It’s all over the forums all the time. Really.
edit"40-50fps in big zergs with three way SLI on 780’s won’t be achievable so saying what you did is pretty ignorant
Oh I have seen that thread, I tend to visit it when I need a laugh.
And saying that everyone have three way SLI on 780s would be less ignorant than me saying that people are having that high fps?
You can’t assume everyone is having issues just because you do. And it is quite possible that a “better” setup would generate worse result simply because of the game being optimized differently than specifically for that hardware.
“Oh I have seen that thread, I tend to visit it when I need a laugh” oh you’re not serious THANKS GAWD… lmao if you believe people, thousands of people talk about how poorly gw2 (could be on this forum, nvidia forums, any other gaming site forums, in game EVERYWHERE with gw2’s engine as a subject) are all trolling and this is what makes you laugh, you’re more ignorant than what i originally thought.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Now you’re being unreasonable. You’re on the forums a lot, you know well enough that even people running ridiculous overclocked processors and ridiculously overpriced graphics card in SLI have experienced between 10-20 FPS in zergs. It’s all over the forums all the time. Really.
Aye, and at least earlier on having overclocked processors actually decreased performance of the game, so that would mean the issue would lie with the computer, rather than the game correct?
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
Now you’re being unreasonable. You’re on the forums a lot, you know well enough that even people running ridiculous overclocked processors and ridiculously overpriced graphics card in SLI have experienced between 10-20 FPS in zergs. It’s all over the forums all the time. Really.
i won’t be surprised if he didn’t even knew what good and bad specs are, he’s just talking to sound like some1 who knows what he’s talking about. 40-50fps in huge zergs LLOLOLOLOL, bro, have you played gw2 or all you do is visit this forum and read fanboys how they find this game perfect and to them it runs perfectly so you repeat what they say? like a serious wtf lol
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Now you’re being unreasonable. You’re on the forums a lot, you know well enough that even people running ridiculous overclocked processors and ridiculously overpriced graphics card in SLI have experienced between 10-20 FPS in zergs. It’s all over the forums all the time. Really.
Aye, and at least earlier on having overclocked processors actually decreased performance of the game, so that would mean the issue would lie with the computer, rather than the game correct?
sweet jesus lol dat guy… why i even bothered.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Aye, and at least earlier on having overclocked processors actually decreased performance of the game, so that would mean the issue would lie with the computer, rather than the game correct?
Entertain me, why would your processor running faster decrease performance, unless you have clocked it to the point where it is unstable (Which shouldn’t happen with the processors you buy overclocked)? I’m a year away from calling myself a software engineer, I know a thing or two, so don’t be scared of getting dirty with details.
Entertain me, why would your processor running faster decrease performance, unless you have clocked it to the point where it is unstable (Which shouldn’t happen with the processors you buy overclocked)? I’m a year away from calling myself a software engineer, I know a thing or two, so don’t be scared of getting dirty with details.
That I can’t answer, since I am NOT a software engineer, I simply remember many issues turning up earlier on (and might still do) on overclocked machines (and taking a swift look on the thread posted earlier here many of those that are actually having issues DO have overclocked stuff, so it is fully possible that the issue might lie somewhere there for some reason.)
That I can’t answer, since I am NOT a software engineer, I simply remember many issues turning up earlier on (and might still do) on overclocked machines (and taking a swift look on the thread posted earlier here many of those that are actually having issues DO have overclocked stuff, so it is fully possible that the issue might lie somewhere there for some reason.)
Overclocking can lead to many unintended things like clocking to the point where the rig gets unstable (You will experience system crashes or/and stuttering), overheating and a bunch of other bi-products. In that case it has everything to do with the computer, and nothing to do with the game. But okay, ignore overclocking. People with stock high-end CPU’s still have FPS issues. I just picked the guy with the overclocked one to state a point.
Overclocking can lead to many unintended things like clocking to the point where the rig gets unstable (You will experience system crashes or/and stuttering), overheating and a bunch of other bi-products. In that case it has everything to do with the computer, and nothing to do with the game. But okay, ignore overclocking. People with stock high-end CPU’s still have FPS issues. I just picked the guy with the overclocked one to state a point.
Indeed, the point however is that it seems (at least at swift glance) that the majority of the people with high-end stuff that have FPS issues also have overclocked stuff. Which, based on earlier issues, could very well be a reason for them to have bad FPS while worse cards do not.
Not sure why you are having such a hard time understanding I could not care less.
Because you’re ignoring the fact that DX11 improves fps. No matter how much you don’t care about graphics, fps in game that runs at 15 in zergs certainly needs it
Also ignoring the fact that most of the benefits of DX11 only benefits people that actually have DX11. The type of people that require Dx11 are generally smaller than the audience that play MMORPG. Besides, DX11 would just be something people like you ignore once you get and promptly go back to random QQing about other stuff.
^dude #9838742 playing on a pc from bestbuy who’ve never played a game in DX11, next
How cute, someone is trying to make a funny.
What you said would be true IF it wasn’t for the fact that I did build my own computer last year (i5 3570k oc to 4.5, nv 670, 8GB ram and blah blah blah, and just for fun bought a 27 inch 2560×1440 Ips monitor). I was planning on going all out with adding another 670, buying 2 more ips screens and bumping up the ram to 16, but I am in then I realize how little I care about graphics and I am out the point where graphics should be secondary to EVERYTHING else. Graphics are the things companies like Crytek use to hide behind their medicore shooter.
With that said, you are right in a way, I do sometimes wish I hadn’t spend that much money on something just to say “Looks nice” then promptly don’t care anymore.
wasn’t trying to be funny, just look at some posts on this thread, people don’t even know what dx11 is while saying “i don’t care about DX11” or “i don’t want it!!!!”. Its impossible to disagree about Crytek and everybody knows this. Just look at how much hate Ryse is currently getting, may have great graphics (i say may because its far from being as impressive as Crysis 3) but gameplay looks like the worst in years. Linear as kitten and on full QTE spam. But that’s Crytek, not every dev puts amazing looking graphics with garbage gameplay. For example, Watch Dogs, The Division, Destiny, MGS5 and TW3 all have great graphics while having some good gameplay (from the looks of it and from playing their prequels) and that’s what im looking for, good graphics AND good gameplay but for some companies that’s too much asking
You seem to misunderstand something or maybe it was my fault that I assume you read my earlier post, so let me spell it out for you.
I don’t mind if Arenanet adds directX 11, but it should be the very last thing on their checklist, after improving other aspects for the game.
The second thing I said is, generally speaking people like you wanting DirectX 11 or at least enough to make a post on the forums are generally the same type that would go “oh look dx11” then promptly go back to complaining about something else. DirectX 11 is nice, but it will be something that nobody bothers to care about in a few weeks.
Just to add all those other examples you gave, they are all nice but we haven’t played any of them to have an opinion on them. Crysis also looked nice and look how that turned out.
This is an old revived thread so if you said something 2 months ago, well, i can’t just remember that. Crysis 1 looked good because previous Crytek game was Far Cry 1 which was good. Crysis 1 came out and lots of ppl liked it and it got really high scores everywhere. It was an okay game for me personally (would give it a 8/10), its the sequels that sucked, and that was seen in reviews as well (especially crysis 3 because all it had is graphics and a cool * bow). Another thing most ppl forget is Crytek is the owner of cryengine, this is why their two latest crysis games looked like tech demos. They may not care as much for their game to sell like a GTA5 would because they showcase their engine and i dunno if you’ve noticed but lots of next gen games and even mmo’s use it now. Crytek games sell their engine that’s why gameplay is ALWAYS shallow, generic and linear but they don’t care because their games look as good as it gets and that makes ppl talk about their games and companies to borrow their engine
So you are just saying the things I said earlier huh? Go read one of the previous post you quoted I pretty much said the exact thing.
Ultimately, my point is that graphics are not the defining feature of guild wars 2. Games that focus on the latest and greatest generally lose something to gain that latest and greatest and generally the benefit of nice graphics don’t last longer than a few weeks.
As u know im pro. ~Tomonobu Itagaki
This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
So you are just saying the things I said earlier huh? Go read one of the previous post you quoted I pretty much said the exact thing.
Ultimately, my point is that graphics are not the defining feature of guild wars 2. Games that focus on the latest and greatest generally lose something to gain that latest and greatest and generally the benefit of nice graphics don’t last longer than a few weeks.[/quote]False. You’re referring to Crysis as all good looking games have shallow gameplay. This year alone we’re getting BF4 which looks amazing and have the best multiplayer available this year. Not because crysis looked good and had poor gameplay that good looking games are mostly bad when it comes to gameplay and not because GW2 has a poor engine with good gameplay that all bad looking games are more fun… If they weren’t lazy, invested more money on a brand new engine and think of the future (wvw lag is perfect example which will never be fixed unless something major is done) they would’ve used an engine that isn’t as ancient.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Entertain me, why would your processor running faster decrease performance, unless you have clocked it to the point where it is unstable (Which shouldn’t happen with the processors you buy overclocked)? I’m a year away from calling myself a software engineer, I know a thing or two, so don’t be scared of getting dirty with details.
That I can’t answer, since I am NOT a software engineer, I simply remember many issues turning up earlier on (and might still do) on overclocked machines (and taking a swift look on the thread posted earlier here many of those that are actually having issues DO have overclocked stuff, so it is fully possible that the issue might lie somewhere there for some reason.)
There was a portion of the beta period where the game was being “optimized”. During that timeframe the devs’ recommended that you place all your hardware at stock so they can get an accurate metric of how their work was progressing. To my knowledge there was never a time when underclocking or running at stocks meant better performance, this was simply to get accurate data.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
It was a LOT LONGER than two years ago this was heard/said.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
It was a LOT LONGER than two years ago this was heard/said.
Guild Wars 1 w3as originally a DX8 game . Took them until Factions’ release to make the game DX9 .
No DX11 is a crime against any computers built after 2009 .
MMO or not, not having DX11 support in a PC EXCLUSIVE title released in 2012 is a joke especially when games run better in dx11.
Having it in Direct X 11 would upset people with Direct X 10 cards, which there is still a fairly high number of compared to DX9 cards now. I could see this game going as far as DX10 for now but not DX11 and I highly doubt GW2 will upgrade to DX10 to begin with. If there is a ‘Guild Wars 3’ game in the future, maybe it will use Direct X 11. But it doesn’t really matter though, the game looks great either way.
Also wouldn’t this topic be better suited for the Tech support forums?
Why would it upset anyone? DX11 support doesn’t mean DX9 won’t be supported anymore… DX11 would be for those who own a gaming rig and DX9 for those gaming on a computer from Bestbuy lol
Bestbuy? I run GW2 on a freakin’ TABLET and I have DX11.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
It was a LOT LONGER than two years ago this was heard/said.
Read my post again
Ok, I read it again for the third time, what am I supposed to see in that 3 line paragraph? You said two years before release and what I’m talking about is 4 to 5 years before release is when what I said was mentioned by ANET.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Guild Wars 1 w3as originally a DX8 game . Took them until Factions’ release to make the game DX9 .
No DX11 is a crime against any computers built after 2009 .
MMO or not, not having DX11 support in a PC EXCLUSIVE title released in 2012 is a joke especially when games run better in dx11.
Having it in Direct X 11 would upset people with Direct X 10 cards, which there is still a fairly high number of compared to DX9 cards now. I could see this game going as far as DX10 for now but not DX11 and I highly doubt GW2 will upgrade to DX10 to begin with. If there is a ‘Guild Wars 3’ game in the future, maybe it will use Direct X 11. But it doesn’t really matter though, the game looks great either way.
Also wouldn’t this topic be better suited for the Tech support forums?
Why would it upset anyone? DX11 support doesn’t mean DX9 won’t be supported anymore… DX11 would be for those who own a gaming rig and DX9 for those gaming on a computer from Bestbuy lol
Bestbuy? I run GW2 on a freakin’ TABLET and I have DX11.
on a tablet? lol wtf. What’s next? DX12 when played on iphone?-.-
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
It was a LOT LONGER than two years ago this was heard/said.
Read my post again
Ok, I read it again for the third time, what am I supposed to see in that 3 line paragraph? You said two years before release and what I’m talking about is 4 to 5 years before release is when what I said was mentioned by ANET.
personally i think i heard that in 09
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
No kidding. Or upgrade from his 56k modem. I tend to the 50’s. Having a bad time if I bottom out mid 20s in a zerg. Or maybe he meant himself when he was raggin on ppl who got their comps from bestbuy. And most of my settings are on high. You can do that with a liquid cooled quadcore, real vidcard, with 16 gb ram. (TB solidstate HD too, but not like that affects my connection). Hell, I know my choke point is my connection, it’s only isdn, but the cable ends a kilometer from the house and the cable company wont lay more this way. Still, avging mid 300k dl is good enough.
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
No kidding. Or upgrade from his 56k modem. I tend to the 50’s. Having a bad time if I bottom out mid 20s in a zerg. Or maybe he meant himself when he was raggin on ppl who got their comps from bestbuy. And most of my settings are on high. You can do that with a liquid cooled quadcore, real vidcard, with 16 gb ram. (TB solidstate HD too, but not like that affects my connection). Hell, I know my choke point is my connection, it’s only isdn, but the cable ends a kilometer from the house and the cable company wont lay more this way. Still, avging mid 300k dl is good enough.
what exactly are you even talking about? wtf does a connection has to do with anything? I have 15down/5up or i was supposed to have over 100up to play this game at “i tend to the 50’s”? Do you even know how to monitor your fps before talking? Why do you even bring liquid cooling lmao and then you talk about “real vidcard”? what is this supposed to mean exactly? Are you playing on onboard gpu and get those amazing performances no one in gw2 is getting? get real and land on planet earth. Playing with an onboard ship and talks about fps while others have computers build for gaming…
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Ultimately, my point is that graphics are not the defining feature of guild wars 2. Games that focus on the latest and greatest generally lose something to gain that latest and greatest and generally the benefit of nice graphics don’t last longer than a few weeks.
Uhm. Then your point is ultimately moot, because the graphics and art definitely are a major defining factor of this game.
It´s nice that you´re such a fan of good gameplay, I liked playing Nethack too.
But it´s time to move on and ANet simply needs to get cracking with giving us a proper game engine(GFX is only a part).
Especially with their coming move to maybe their key market.
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
No kidding. Or upgrade from his 56k modem. I tend to the 50’s. Having a bad time if I bottom out mid 20s in a zerg. Or maybe he meant himself when he was raggin on ppl who got their comps from bestbuy. And most of my settings are on high. You can do that with a liquid cooled quadcore, real vidcard, with 16 gb ram. (TB solidstate HD too, but not like that affects my connection). Hell, I know my choke point is my connection, it’s only isdn, but the cable ends a kilometer from the house and the cable company wont lay more this way. Still, avging mid 300k dl is good enough.
what exactly are you even talking about? wtf does a connection has to do with anything? I have 15down/5up or i was supposed to have over 100up to play this game at “i tend to the 50’s”? Do you even know how to monitor your fps before talking? Why do you even bring liquid cooling lmao and then you talk about “real vidcard”? what is this supposed to mean exactly? Are you playing on onboard gpu and get those amazing performances no one in gw2 is getting? get real and land on planet earth. Playing with an onboard ship and talks about fps while others have computers build for gaming…
Geez. I couldn’t possibly know how to check my FPS. It’s a classified state secret, don’tcha know?
I never said I had onboard anything. 50s, kinda means 50 frames per second. Spelled that out so your single brain cell could comprehend it. I have a rig built for gaming. board, to cpu, to vidcard, to monitor, to mouse. Just because you’re an idiot, who doesn’t grasp the concept of sarcasm, doesn’t mean the rest of us are. Those comments were all about various components of my rig, not just the vid. But as Peanut would say:
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
No kidding. Or upgrade from his 56k modem. I tend to the 50’s. Having a bad time if I bottom out mid 20s in a zerg. Or maybe he meant himself when he was raggin on ppl who got their comps from bestbuy. And most of my settings are on high. You can do that with a liquid cooled quadcore, real vidcard, with 16 gb ram. (TB solidstate HD too, but not like that affects my connection). Hell, I know my choke point is my connection, it’s only isdn, but the cable ends a kilometer from the house and the cable company wont lay more this way. Still, avging mid 300k dl is good enough.
what exactly are you even talking about? wtf does a connection has to do with anything? I have 15down/5up or i was supposed to have over 100up to play this game at “i tend to the 50’s”? Do you even know how to monitor your fps before talking? Why do you even bring liquid cooling lmao and then you talk about “real vidcard”? what is this supposed to mean exactly? Are you playing on onboard gpu and get those amazing performances no one in gw2 is getting? get real and land on planet earth. Playing with an onboard ship and talks about fps while others have computers build for gaming…
Geez. I couldn’t possibly know how to check my FPS. It’s a classified state secret, don’tcha know?
I never said I had onboard anything. 50s, kinda means 50 frames per second. Spelled that out so your single brain cell could comprehend it. I have a rig built for gaming. board, to cpu, to vidcard, to monitor, to mouse. Just because you’re an idiot, who doesn’t grasp the concept of sarcasm, doesn’t mean the rest of us are. Those comments were all about various components of my rig, not just the vid. But as Peanut would say:
Neaarrrow ~swipes his hand over his head~
50’s mean ~50fps? my god, you don’t say!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if an idiot who brings “i haz my 50fps in zergs while the rest can’t achieve it cuz,,,,,,,cuz that’s how it is, i have an onboard ship and that’s more powerful than a $400 gpu” or “real vidcard” wasn’t able to monitor fps so don’t be surprised here. and now to prove his point he has a rig, where did that gaming rig came from, Walmart? The fact that you even implied having ~50fps in huge zergs makes you a complete ignorant idiot or someone who doesn’t even know what fps is, or both. 50fps in zergs haha you’re funny.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
I’m pretty sure they have 0-1 guys working on the clientside currently, determining by the client updates (none) we have got in the last 6 months.
Yeah this!
Pretty safe bet that they only have a hand full, if that.
After they fixed culling for WvW these guys are very likely still hard at work on the open world version.
Biggest problem with these things is that you can´t just hire new guys and they will instantly write better code.
If they had hired the talent at game launch maybe by now we´ll be able to see some core improvements. Who knows, maybe we even will.
I’m pretty sure they have 0-1 guys working on the clientside currently, determining by the client updates (none) we have got in the last 6 months.
Yeah this!
Pretty safe bet that they only have a hand full, if that.
After they fixed culling for WvW these guys are very likely still hard at work on the open world version.
Biggest problem with these things is that you can´t just hire new guys and they will instantly write better code.
If they had hired the talent at game launch maybe by now we´ll be able to see some core improvements. Who knows, maybe we even will.
The culling issue is fully server side. The only thing the client guys had to do about it is to introduce the detail selectors for player models in WvW.
In effect it means, that instead of working to make the client run better and optimize it, they just quickly coded in some sliders so that we can make the game uglier and hope it runs smoother that way.
Considering how much their client improved from beta to release and the first couple months, I’m pretty sure they DID have competent client programmers, but it seems those guys were fired or left the company ages ago.
This game has excellent optimization! I have i2500k@4.2GHz, nVidia GTX 670, 8GB RAM – i have no problems at all! If you have problems, try to disable programs (they eat memory), delete viruses and of course reset overclocked hardware to standart parameters.
I will be very happy to see DirectX 11 in GW2, it should increase performance even more. Many things like floor in Rata Sum are ready to DX11. I want to see it NAO!
This game has excellent optimization! I have i2500k@4.2GHz, nVidia GTX 670, 8GB RAM – i have no problems at all! If you have problems, try to disable programs (they eat memory), delete viruses and of course reset overclocked hardware to standart parameters.
I will be very happy to see DirectX 11 in GW2, it should increase performance even more. Many things like floor in Rata Sum are ready to DX11. I want to see it NAO!
I have pretty much same setup as yours. Let me know how you fare in WvW with 100 players on screen and everything maxxed?
I am fine. I feel myself better than in other games like Aion. BTW this game requires better processors, not video cards. So i always play on max settings. You can try max settings too, no impact at all.
With 100 people around servers lag sometimes, but my fps is good.
Ultimately, my point is that graphics are not the defining feature of guild wars 2. Games that focus on the latest and greatest generally lose something to gain that latest and greatest and generally the benefit of nice graphics don’t last longer than a few weeks.
Uhm. Then your point is ultimately moot, because the graphics and art definitely are a major defining factor of this game.
It´s nice that you´re such a fan of good gameplay, I liked playing Nethack too.
But it´s time to move on and ANet simply needs to get cracking with giving us a proper game engine(GFX is only a part).
Especially with their coming move to maybe their key market.
Awwww, someone doesn’t know the difference between graphics and aesthetics. Guild wars 2 is a game that is focuses on aesthetics NOT graphics. Games with great aesthetics tend to age extremely well compared to game that focus exclusively on graphics. This is the reason why elders scrolls oblivion looked great in 2006 but looks like kitten now compared to guild wars 1 release in 2005 and looks way better.
tl;dr Gw2 focuses more on aesthetics than graphics. This video will help you understand the difference, so that next time you wont say something dumb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oK8UTRgvJU
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This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
It was a LOT LONGER than two years ago this was heard/said.
Read my post again
Ok, I read it again for the third time, what am I supposed to see in that 3 line paragraph? You said two years before release and what I’m talking about is 4 to 5 years before release is when what I said was mentioned by ANET.
That anything before that was speculation at best.
What puzzles me is I for what ever reason, I seem to remember reading years ago(way before release) that the game engine was going to be totally new and different from what was used in GW1. Must have dreamed it.
They lied like Bethesda lied about Skyrim’s engine which is same old stuff but modified, same thing with CoD:Ghosts and their crappy engine from 1999…
Wrong, it had been known for at least a year or two before release, GW2 would be based on a modified GW1 engine. There was lots of speculation before that however, which is where one may have gotten the idea of it using a entirely new engine.
look at MudBone post, “years ago”. I heard the same thing, “years ago” and years ago they lied.
Read my whole post again.
Also, plans change in development. You can’t seriously be naive enough to think otherwise.
It was a LOT LONGER than two years ago this was heard/said.
Read my post again
Ok, I read it again for the third time, what am I supposed to see in that 3 line paragraph? You said two years before release and what I’m talking about is 4 to 5 years before release is when what I said was mentioned by ANET.
That anything before that was speculation at best.
Speculation on my part? Not if it was said by ANET, that’s not speculation that’s called an untruth.
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This game has excellent optimization! I have i2500k@4.2GHz, nVidia GTX 670, 8GB RAM – i have no problems at all! If you have problems, try to disable programs (they eat memory), delete viruses and of course reset overclocked hardware to standart parameters.
I will be very happy to see DirectX 11 in GW2, it should increase performance even more. Many things like floor in Rata Sum are ready to DX11. I want to see it NAO!
I actually got 32gb and i does have fps issues when its comes to gw2, but nice trolling, keep it up
You know why i say that? because no matter how you try, in our day and age a game won’t be running 1-5fps and gw2 runs at ~10… its REALLY hard to not achieve better… I know for a fact this game which i haven’t even heard before the person who’ve posted this video will run at over 10fps because engine they’re using isn’t almost a decade old.
Might I suggest actually installing the game on a computer that meets the minimum requirements then?
Getting around 10 FPS would most likely suggest that there is issues at your end, rather than at the games end, since people are reporting up to 40-50 FPS even in big zergs.
No kidding. Or upgrade from his 56k modem. I tend to the 50’s. Having a bad time if I bottom out mid 20s in a zerg. Or maybe he meant himself when he was raggin on ppl who got their comps from bestbuy. And most of my settings are on high. You can do that with a liquid cooled quadcore, real vidcard, with 16 gb ram. (TB solidstate HD too, but not like that affects my connection). Hell, I know my choke point is my connection, it’s only isdn, but the cable ends a kilometer from the house and the cable company wont lay more this way. Still, avging mid 300k dl is good enough.
what exactly are you even talking about? wtf does a connection has to do with anything? I have 15down/5up or i was supposed to have over 100up to play this game at “i tend to the 50’s”? Do you even know how to monitor your fps before talking? Why do you even bring liquid cooling lmao and then you talk about “real vidcard”? what is this supposed to mean exactly? Are you playing on onboard gpu and get those amazing performances no one in gw2 is getting? get real and land on planet earth. Playing with an onboard ship and talks about fps while others have computers build for gaming…
Geez. I couldn’t possibly know how to check my FPS. It’s a classified state secret, don’tcha know?
I never said I had onboard anything. 50s, kinda means 50 frames per second. Spelled that out so your single brain cell could comprehend it. I have a rig built for gaming. board, to cpu, to vidcard, to monitor, to mouse. Just because you’re an idiot, who doesn’t grasp the concept of sarcasm, doesn’t mean the rest of us are. Those comments were all about various components of my rig, not just the vid. But as Peanut would say:
Neaarrrow ~swipes his hand over his head~
50’s mean ~50fps? my god, you don’t say!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if an idiot who brings “i haz my 50fps in zergs while the rest can’t achieve it cuz,,,,,,,cuz that’s how it is, i have an onboard ship and that’s more powerful than a $400 gpu” or “real vidcard” wasn’t able to monitor fps so don’t be surprised here. and now to prove his point he has a rig, where did that gaming rig came from, Walmart? The fact that you even implied having ~50fps in huge zergs makes you a complete ignorant idiot or someone who doesn’t even know what fps is, or both. 50fps in zergs haha you’re funny.
50s is lazy for in the 50’s. Again, to dumb to figure out shorthand? Not my problem. Obviously you are, since twice you go on about on board vid cards when no where did I say that was the situation. And again, despite having the sarcasm fish pointed out to you, you missed it again. But, I expected that. Seen your posts all over the place. Your stupidity is made obvious by their pattern. Obviously I don’t know what fps is, since I only used the long form of the acronym, protip: Frames Per Second. There, even bolded it for you so your feeble eyes just may grasp it this time. I doubt it tho. You never seem to grasp anything in any thread.
I find it highly probable that you could find your butt with both hand, GPS, a map, and a field guide.
bu**hurt nerd #4398. Its okay if you’re playing on a Walmart machine and its fine if you never heard of fraps, do not worry its just a video game and you’re writing on a gaming forum. Everything will be alright. Next time try to not call people idiots when you’re the king of them. Now you should go buy a “true vidcard” and make it run on your cheap noname 300watt psu, DX11 is the future, you need dat “true vidcard” lol
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
I actually got 32gb and i does have fps issues when its comes to gw2, but nice trolling, keep it up
32GB RAM? It does not matter.
http://youtu.be/Q2FpZuqOnHs
I just recorded video to show my game performance. I used playclaw 4 to record and show overlays. I can’t guarantee they show reliable information. Keep in mind i record 1920×1200 with high quality. Record process eats ~10-15 fps. I play with 40-60 FPS in 99.9% of the time.
Even with 7 fps at minimum the game is playable, most problems caused by server lags, not my computer. I don’t usually go in middle of fight, it is my duel build i just stay here and spam skills.
I think the game can utilize all cores better. But it is good level any way. For example Aion was unplayble with character models enabled. Swtor had 2fps when 20×20. Actually GW2 is much better compared to other games. If you know a game with better results, let me know.
BTW. You can see gw2 used CPU more than GPU. I think it is because they process some unusual things for CPU. And DirectX 11 can increase perfomance even more.
