Guild Wars 2

Galen Grey.4709:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I see a lot of comments about hype and hyperbole, but I have yet to see a single word released by ArenaNet about anything being announced.

What exactly have they hyped about Pax South? The only thing I’ve seen is an announcement about the Tournament at Pax East. I’d be very interested in reading all this ‘hype’! Please post the links.

hmm is it normal in your experience to have companies announce on forums what a big announcement at a convention going to be?Personally I’ve never see it happen.

What are you on about? Perhaps, you should have read the whole thread.

Good luck.

‘Grow its universe’ Asuras invented stargates now? ;-) That would be something: Guildwars 2 Planet of the gods, guildwars 2 Battle beyond the stars (love those sf references, 2 in one post hehe).

Bolbo Baggins.8594:

‘Grow its universe’ Asuras invented stargates now? ;-) That would be something: Guildwars 2 Planet of the gods, guildwars 2 Battle beyond the stars (love those sf references, 2 in one post hehe).

Well, there were space and planets in the PC’s vision in the Living Story, so who knows. An Asura gate looks exactly like what you would think a stargate would.

Any chance this can be streamed on Twitch?

Those weren’t really stars and planets, I don’t think. Though the vision was of the Antikytheria (aka The All) which is basically Tyria’s working mechanism. So it’s theoretically possible that background glints were stars… but I rather doubt it.

Bolbo Baggins.8594:

‘Grow its universe’ Asuras invented stargates now? ;-) That would be something: Guildwars 2 Planet of the gods, guildwars 2 Battle beyond the stars (love those sf references, 2 in one post hehe).

Guild Wars 3 will be in space! :b:

“The Living World was just the beginning.”
Yes, 2 years we are only in the beginning. To be precise – beta stage.

Just another hype train. I will go get popcorn, can’t wait for another massive fail like in Gamescon. kek

be among the first to hear how we’re setting up a new framework for how an MMO can grow its universe. The Living World was just the beginning.

Sounds like they want to make the game more dynamic and variegated in its design, kind of like what EQNext is trying to do.

I really hope we’re not going to space, dabble in other universes ( aside from those currently known from GW1 and 2 ), and travel back and forward in time.

Copestetic.5174:

I really hope we’re not going to space, dabble in other universes ( aside from those currently known from GW1 and 2 ), and travel back and forward in time.

I agree I would like to stay in “our” time or our ancestors in GW1.

I can’t keep myself hyped for 23 days. Thankfully, it’s only 11 days until the next LS episode which might or might not be the S2 finale, and only 4 days until we will (hopefully) get a teaser of it

Now after that launch and a few days of playing it, it will be less than a week to this. That’s when I start to get hyped

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Galen Grey.4709:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I see a lot of comments about hype and hyperbole, but I have yet to see a single word released by ArenaNet about anything being announced.

What exactly have they hyped about Pax South? The only thing I’ve seen is an announcement about the Tournament at Pax East. I’d be very interested in reading all this ‘hype’! Please post the links.

hmm is it normal in your experience to have companies announce on forums what a big announcement at a convention going to be?Personally I’ve never see it happen.

What are you on about? Perhaps, you should have read the whole thread.

Good luck.

I did read the whole thread I always do. Perhaps you should too. OP already gave you that info:
http://south.paxsite.com/schedule/panel/guild-wars-2-beyond-the-point-of-no-return

As for something more substantial than that, like I pointed out that’s not going to happen. That event will be the spotlight on what they want to announce. They’re not going to diminish that spotlight by annoying it on the forums or anywhere else first.

Guild wars 2 has the perfect world, most amazing combat and the skins are just unbelievable. The best part is you can get your skins by doing whatever you like, unlike wow where you hit max level and grind the same kitten dungeon for a specific legendary/mount 20488588847473 times.

A lot of people on forums probably already have a legendary, are bored and so they forum stalk and talk disrespect because they don’t know what to do now, well stop being a noob and join the wvw and pvp side of the game? I always hear people say how scared they are to pvp cos they get GGed all the time, probably a kid who stole their mums credit card.

Respect the game and enjoy what is made, no one forces you to pay a cent.

Guild wars has a massive amount of free space if you are to blind to see it on the map, to create new areas like silverwastes/drytop. They might even be workin on Cantha or Elona since they are major aspects of guild wars 1, but why would they want to share that with us?

People who complain coughs If you think you have some great ideas and want to change the game well why don’t you buy out arena net and go ahead with your plans?

My guess is :
They remove Tybalt and the other Order NPCs from the personal story, since their
death was too confusing for new players .. instead we start directly with our all beloved
Great Marshall Trahearne .. yay.

Galen Grey.4709:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Galen Grey.4709:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I see a lot of comments about hype and hyperbole, but I have yet to see a single word released by ArenaNet about anything being announced.

What exactly have they hyped about Pax South? The only thing I’ve seen is an announcement about the Tournament at Pax East. I’d be very interested in reading all this ‘hype’! Please post the links.

hmm is it normal in your experience to have companies announce on forums what a big announcement at a convention going to be?Personally I’ve never see it happen.

What are you on about? Perhaps, you should have read the whole thread.

Good luck.

I did read the whole thread I always do. Perhaps you should too. OP already gave you that info:
http://south.paxsite.com/schedule/panel/guild-wars-2-beyond-the-point-of-no-return

As for something more substantial than that, like I pointed out that’s not going to happen. That event will be the spotlight on what they want to announce. They’re not going to diminish that spotlight by annoying it on the forums or anywhere else first.

Well, again, you totally misinterpret the post. But, good luck, and thanks for playing. =)

Interesting phrasing.

Unfortunately, I feel this is just the hype train being refueled again.

I noticed the same thing when they did a talk at Eurogamer Expo 2013. There was hype about saying what they had planned for the future, and it was pretty…well… bland. Just talked about Caithe coming back and continuing with the LS.

But I could be wrong. I’m actually hoping they prove me wrong too.

nethykins.7986:

Just talked about Caithe coming back and continuing with the LS.

And boy, what a comeback did she do! Stealing the egg from the master we’ve been chasing through all of S2 and we don’t yet even know why.

The need to pull a Ozymandias and at the end of the session announce it went live 25 minutes ago.

New outfits to compliment running and idle animations?

What I see here in this thread is what I often see. A disconnect between the forum readers and people who do business as Anet.

Anet is a business and they’re going to a show. They pay to be at that show. They are spending money to go there. That means that they’re going to be doing what they can, as any business would, to drum up business. They are going to reach an audience at that show that isn’t people on their forums. They’re going to word whatever they want, not as hype for us, but as advertising for them.

I’d love to know what any of you would do in a similar situation.

The advertising machine has to run. World of Warcraft runs theirs and they have the money to pay for commercials on TV. Anet doesn’t have that kind of income, so Anet does what it can to promote within it’s budget to promote. You go to a show like PAX and it’s an opportunity to tell people about your game. So you make it sound exciting.

Anyone who takes anything in a description of a panel at a con literally is someone who doesn’t have experience.

It’s the same thing with stuff they put in articles on their website. Those aren’t exclusively or even mostly for us. We have that info before it’s in the articles half the time, then complain that they’re not telling us anything new. We have that information so we don’t need those articles. They aren’t written exclusively for us. They’re written for people who might casually visit the website who’d want information.

People who spend their time on forums get all this information without going to the game’s site.

People say Anet is hyping their game, but they’re wrong. People are hyping themselves. Anet is doing business as a business. As any one of us would do if we owned a business.

I want my hammer so hard…:(

…an engineer

I’m amused at the amount of negativity over something they haven’t even said yet. And some of our peers wonder why the developers tend not to say anything at all. . . .

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I’m amused at the amount of negativity over something they haven’t even said yet. And some of our peers wonder why the developers tend not to say anything at all. . . .

But they have said something .. without saying anything concrete they said things
that sound like an expansion .. or at least that we will get quite a lot of more landmass.

However they did that before already .. and in the end we got the wardrobe and mega servers.

Not that the wardrobe was bad .. but it was not such a “awesome, fantastic change
of the world that noone ever expected”.

And don’t let us talk about collections, that are only a pure money-think while they
were really a fun part in EQ2 for example.

And the wheels on the bus go round and round. . . .

Beldin.5498:

But they have said something .. without saying anything concrete they said things that sound like an expansion ..

So, in other words, they said nothing . . . except what you think you want to hear. Again, and I know this is a real stretch, but can we not at least wait to hear what they’ll say first before going all Negative Nancy in this thread?

Concrete evidence sounds better than jaded speculation.

But maybe that’s just me again.

Beldin.5498:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I’m amused at the amount of negativity over something they haven’t even said yet. And some of our peers wonder why the developers tend not to say anything at all. . . .

But they have said something .. without saying anything concrete they said things
that sound like an expansion .. or at least that we will get quite a lot of more landmass.

However they did that before already .. and in the end we got the wardrobe and mega servers.

Not that the wardrobe was bad .. but it was not such a “awesome, fantastic change
of the world that noone ever expected”.

And don’t let us talk about collections, that are only a pure money-think while they
were really a fun part in EQ2 for example.

Actually what they said was what any company would say advertising to the public. Not us. I promise you they’re not running this event at PAX for people on the forum. They want to make announcements that will get new people to the game. The people here already know about it.

People who read stuff like that and try to take it as something huge are likely going to be disappointed because the target audience for that isn’t us in the first place.

How would you advertise the game/company to people who weren’t playing it at a con. Would you say, “we’re another MMO and we’re going to do what everyone else is doing. Buy our game?”

Because I’m guessing you’d list your panel pretty much like they did.

And if forum people want to get into an uproar over it, well, that’s pretty much not Anet’s fault.

probably be just another announcement for something like pvp tourney or another wvw season…

I’ve been burned too many time getting hyped up by them saying they’re announcing something great.

be among the first to hear how we’re setting up a new framework for how an MMO can grow its universe

Reading this again, I get the feeling all they’re going to do is talk about the living world (and how thats “changing” their game world). How they’re setting up a new way other companies can do it. Its not going to be anything actually new. The only thing that kinda detracts from that though is the “be among the first”, though that could be interpreted as maybe just the first people to hear the speech.

And all it’ll probably be a bigger preview of whatever the next patch will be, since it’ll be the Saturday before the next patch (after the Jan. 13th one), if it still follows the 2 weeks schedule.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

And the wheels on the bus go round and round. . . .

Beldin.5498:

But they have said something .. without saying anything concrete they said things that sound like an expansion ..

So, in other words, they said nothing . . . except what you think you want to hear. Again, and I know this is a real stretch, but can we not at least wait to hear what they’ll say first before going all Negative Nancy in this thread?

Concrete evidence sounds better than jaded speculation.

But maybe that’s just me again.

So .. how does that sound to you ?

to hear how we’re setting up a new framework for how an MMO can grow its universe

GROW .. does that not sound like the world gets bigger ?

And for me that is clearly starting again a hype .. or at least try to wake hopes .. but
i fear it will be more something like another feature patch .. like last year.

Maybe tweaks of the mega-server .. because indeed they don’t say that the world
IS growing .. they only prepare the tech so that it can grow .. maybe .. somehow .. in distant future ..

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I’m amused at the amount of negativity over something they haven’t even said yet. And some of our peers wonder why the developers tend not to say anything at all. . . .

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

skullmount.1758:

probably be just another announcement for something like pvp tourney or another wvw season…

I’ve been burned too many time getting hyped up by them saying they’re announcing something great.

be among the first to hear how we’re setting up a new framework for how an MMO can grow its universe

Reading this again, I get the feeling all they’re going to do is talk about the living world (and how thats “changing” their game world). How they’re setting up a new way other companies can do it. Its not going to be anything actually new. The only thing that kinda detracts from that though is the “be among the first”, though that could be interpreted as maybe just the first people to hear the speech.

And all it’ll probably be a bigger preview of whatever the next patch will be, since it’ll be the Saturday before the next patch (after the Jan. 13th one), if it still follows the 2 weeks schedule.

13th is the last patch of LS2 .. after that they take a break until feature patch in April
and then they take a break until LS3 in June or July .. if the follow the scedule from
last year. The 2 week thing had ended with LS1 .. but hey .. LS2 is replayable.

Sigh. The MMO as in the game. Without context, that could mean they’re opening an office in Russia or Mars for all we know.

Again, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask to wait and hear the actual announcement as opposed to splitting hairs over word choice.

Don’t know why that’s such a tipping point for some of the posters here, but I’m getting used to hearing common sense, logic, and real evidence getting criticized with speculation, theory-crafting, and pure negativity here lately.

But no surprise. It is the official forums after all. So don’t mind me.

I’ll just wait to hear the words from the horse’s mouth instead.

Tachenon.5270:

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

What are you talking about? I can redo and redesign my traits as many ways as I like for free now. This allows me to experiment and try many builds . . . again for free.

How exactly is that in opposition to what was said earlier?

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Tachenon.5270:

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

What are you talking about? I can redo and redesign my traits as many ways as I like for free now. This allows me to experiment and try many builds . . . again for free.

How exactly is that in opposition to what was said earlier?

Try playing with a new character/new class etc.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Tachenon.5270:

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

What are you talking about? I can redo and redesign my traits as many ways as I like for free now. This allows me to experiment and try many builds . . . again for free?

How exactly is that in opposition to what was said earlier?

Experimenting is easier .. but only for old character. The learning was much easier
before. So that newer characters mostly can’t really experiment a lot because they
simply don’t have all traits and only get those for a specific build.

Granted. But I got the impression, once you’ve learned the traits, you can then experiment and build as you please. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard nothing about gaining them, but how to build and experiment on said build.

Don’t get me wrong. I despise the new trait and leveling system too. But the inability to respec and try new builds, for free, isn’t the issue.

I believe this: "We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.” is what was referenced.

Not the actual, and abysmal, leveling system.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard nothing about gaining them

Read the quote again ..

.. easier to experiment with and learn ..

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Tachenon.5270:

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

What are you talking about? I can redo and redesign my traits as many ways as I like for free now. This allows me to experiment and try many builds . . . again for free.

How exactly is that in opposition to what was said earlier?

One must have the traits before one can experiment with them. Have you leveled a new character under this system? I have.

But enough about traits — that’s not the topic at hand. I offered this as an example of why some here might not jump with joy at every developmental announcement, or even the prospect of one in the near future, and will not speak of it further in this thread beyond suggesting that if you seek more information, there is a long-standing traits thread in this very section of the forums, almost always on the first page.

Thank you.

You completely missed the point in your attempt to show an example. Especially since I already responded to it before your second attempt at making it. Selective reading, I suppose makes ignorance bliss. But whatever. I’d rather listen to the developer than you defend a moot point.

Which was my point to begin with.

Beldin.5498:

Read the quote again ..

.. easier to experiment with and learn ..

In order for me to ‘learn’ their use, I have to use them, don’t I? See how they work in a specific build? Geez. This is exactly the reason developers don’t say anything.

Interpretation over a single word choice thrown back in their faces on the forums.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Granted. But I got the impression, once you’ve learned the traits, you can then experiment and build as you please. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard nothing about gaining them, but how to build and experiment on said build.

Don’t get me wrong. I despise the new trait and leveling system too. But the inability to respec and try new builds, for free, isn’t the issue.

I believe this: "We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.” is what was referenced.

Not the actual, and abysmal, leveling system.

You’re right in that the ability to respec often isn’t a problem – I love that part. It’s getting to that point where respeccing is useful is the problem. ie: Having enough traits to respec meaningfully.
It’s easy enough to say, “once you’ve learnt the traits, it’s a walk in the park”, but then that’s omitting a major point of how you gain the traits.

It’s like saying:
“Making a legendary is really easy, once you have all the mats”

When we all know it takes quite a bit of time (and sometimes luck) to get the materials together to forge it. The act of forging is just button presses, after all.

So yeah…I agree with what you said there – and I assume you think other people are raging about the trait’s being able to be used on the fly? They’re not, from what I can see

Ardenwolfe.8590:

You completely missed the point in your attempt to show an example. Especially since I already responded to it before your second attempt at making it. Selective reading, I suppose makes ignorance bliss. But whatever. I’d rather listen to the developer than you defend a moot point.

Which was my point to begin with.

Beldin.5498:

Read the quote again ..

.. easier to experiment with and learn ..

In order for me to ‘learn’ their use, I have to use them, don’t I? See how they work in a specific build? Geez. This is exactly the reason developers don’t say anything.

Interpretation over a single word choice thrown back in their faces on the forums.

Ok .. i’m out here since english is not my native language i won’t really have a discussion about semantics.

but it IS easier to use them!
You can change them anytime you want if you aren’t in combat, you don’t have to go in town as before to reset them, pay for it and then change just one thing.
Then change it for some other thing again.

It IS easier to use and change traits It’s free and fast and you can do it anywhere you want

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Sigh. The MMO as in the game. Without context, that could mean they’re opening an office in Russia or Mars for all we know.

Again, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask to wait and hear the actual announcement as opposed to splitting hairs over word choice.

Don’t know why that’s such a tipping point for some of the posters here, but I’m getting used to hearing common sense, logic, and real evidence getting criticized with speculation, theory-crafting, and pure negativity here lately.

But no surprise. It is the official forums after all. So don’t mind me.

I’ll just wait to hear the words from the horse’s mouth instead.

I think the problem is and continues to be, they say something like “an expansions worth of content”, which many are still waiting for. They say something like a 2 week release schedule, which they haven’t gotten close to fulfilling in some time. They say how much easier it will be to play with people you want to play with, with megaserver, yet for many months, it was actually more of a hassle for people, not just even on high pop servers either. People are skeptical and for pretty valid reasons.

This is the teetering point for some (maybe even many), so they better have the actual trick up their sleeve. If this is a promotion to get new players playing, using the living world as a vehicle, then they mine as well not bother, since new players will have to slog through the NPE and trait system in it’s current state, just to get to it.

Mikali.9651:

but it IS easier to use them!

But not to learn them .. buying 3 books for 10s 1g and 2g was much easier than
either do stuff fot 30+ hours to get them all or pay masses of gold ans SPs to buy them.

Of course thats how i understand the word “learn” in this sentence .. just to get them
so that you can use them. But of course its maybe just because i’m a stupid german
who don’t really understands the english language when people with all its finesse
when people start to nitpick.

I think the new trait system is good gold sink. I like the idea to do something to unlock the trait, but it could be like the daily. Give you 3 options to unlock: 1 in pvp, 1 wvw and 1 pve.

Tachenon.5270:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I’m amused at the amount of negativity over something they haven’t even said yet. And some of our peers wonder why the developers tend not to say anything at all. . . .

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

How is that not the case exactly? they removed the need to go to a specific npc and spend money to reset your traits. Sure you have to unlock them first if its a new character but so what? its something you have to do just once (unless you create several alts of the same profession which shouldnt be an issue for most players). and how do you do the unlocks? playing the same content you’re going to be playing anyway. This just makes you diversify a bit. Its Anet delivering on the horizontal progression people have been asking. Alternatively you can just pay some money and skill points. But once unlocked you can freely shuffle the traits around as you wish without having to drop what you’re doing got to a trainer spend money etc.. Cant speak for everyone but to me they did exactly what they said they’d do.

Guys this thread is about PAX South not traits.

Tachenon.5270:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Tachenon.5270:

And some of our peers wonder why the developers say one thing then deliver the opposite. Prime example: trait system redesign, which, so they said, would make it easier to experiment with and learn new builds.

“We want it to be much easier to experiment with and learn new builds as you explore the world of Tyria.”

Source:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more

What are you talking about? I can redo and redesign my traits as many ways as I like for free now. This allows me to experiment and try many builds . . . again for free.

How exactly is that in opposition to what was said earlier?

One must have the traits before one can experiment with them. Have you leveled a new character under this system? I have.

But enough about traits — that’s not the topic at hand. I offered this as an example of why some here might not jump with joy at every developmental announcement, or even the prospect of one in the near future, and will not speak of it further in this thread beyond suggesting that if you seek more information, there is a long-standing traits thread in this very section of the forums, almost always on the first page.

Thank you.

You leveled a new character cool… how exactly did you level them? didnt you do any PvE content at all? cause thats what you need to do unlock these traits after all.

This has got to be the only game in the universe where people complain there is nothing to do and way too much stuff to do at the same time I just dont understand it.

Beldin.5498:

Mikali.9651:

but it IS easier to use them!

But not to learn them .. buying 3 books for 10s 1g and 2g was much easier than
either do stuff fot 30+ hours to get them all or pay masses of gold ans SPs to buy them.

Of course thats how i understand the word “learn” in this sentence .. just to get them
so that you can use them. But of course its maybe just because i’m a stupid german
who don’t really understands the english language when people with all its finesse
when people start to nitpick.

My opinion on the trait stuff….

The entire system was one step forward and ten steps back. Everyone paid attention only to the step forward and how good an idea it was, while ignoring the bad stuff.

While you can change traits for free, everything else about the system was screwed up, because instead of paying to unlock an entire tier of traits at once, you now have to learn each trait individually, and either pay gold and Skill points for each one, or go search for all of them. Because of the new ways the traits worked, low level characters were weaker all around, so enemies had to be adjusted to compensate, which actually made level 80’s even more overpowered in low level zones than they were. It was an unnecessary amount of bloat and work added to a system that worked just fine the way it was except for having to find a trainer to reset traits.

I’m kind of glad I’m a one character kind of player who already had a level 80, because there was no way in hell I was going to spend several dozen hours doing all that all over again.

Hello !

Thank you for the information.

Maybe we will have information about the incoming season 3 and about the near future, like the 2015 Spring WvW tournament ?

I guess they will also make some kind of summary about how the season 2 worked and about what it brought to GW2.

Best regards.

Bahan

Kurrilino.2706:

Ahhh the regular A-Net pattern………..

The 1st time the forum was boiling with disappointment and anger an interview popped out of nowhere talking about precursor crafting…..

The 2nd time isn’t that long ago a statement was made that A-Net looks into expansions…..

This time they talk about expanding the universe and LS was just the beginning….
The frequency between these calm down games is getting shorter and shorter
and the announcements bigger and bigger.

Can’t wait for summer when they announce something like A-Net plans to pay people to play or something huge like that.
It is really sad that A-Net has to use “lures” to keep players interested.

Maybe it’s just me but the signs looking bad…
- canceling mosst teams inclusive dungeon team
- merging serves because of shrinking playerbase
- throwing precursor lure
- fleeing to china to desperately grab some players
- merging servers in china because to few players
- dumb the game down to reach more players
- throwing expansions talks in
- reward player for just locking in to encourage players to lock in
- throwing universe expansion lure into the crowd
- every financial report reports less income than the one before since the peak in 2013

I am a GW1 and GW2 veteran and it makes my heart break to see how incompetence and ignorance is ruining everything that has been grown for almost 10 years.

Any company head with a little bit of dignity should at least admit that they handled it completely wrong and that a new start is needed.
But i guess everything will stay like it is and the pure hope for these magical appearing “new players” will continue to ruin the game

The next big announcement will be this: Asurans can make giant battle mechs, Charr will finally be able to drive around in big war machines but it will only go 33%, and Norn will be able to tame and ride those giant Ice Worms or something, oh and a version of Gandalf will be in the game LOL