Guild Wars 2

Thoughts on the insane amount of Materials and Time Gating to acquire a single Ascended Weapon? As if this is what GW2 really needed in order to survive its second year on the market……

Hey GW2 you should consider paying a salary to all of your customers because playing GW2 is a full time job. For anyone who actually enjoys acquiring all this virtual non-sense can you please acquire and mail me the items in this below list? Thanks….

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gw2-ascended-greatsword-crafting-32.jpg

I was afraid of that. LOL yep. that’s amazing wow.

Anet should learn to put ‘rare’ items in challenging content instead of ALWAYS being craftable inside mystic toilet or crafting stations. GW2 is becoming a Craft Simulation game and i don’t play an MMO to craft all my %$#& and then stand in a city asking myself why i spent so much time/money crafting an item when there’s no content to be experienced with it.

Dear goodness.

I knew it would be bad, but that is just taking it to a ridiculous extreme. Seriously 500 dust, fragments, and ore? You have got to be kidding me. And it’s time gated to make it even worse.

What did they expect of this? Was this designed to be fun?

Now multiple that out for one to six weapons per character. Then multiple that by however many characters you have. And note that they said they wouldn’t add a new tier of gear this year.

“We don’t make grindy games” indeed.

I don’t get it.

I got a lot of them mats playing around 6 hours a week, and I’ve already got half of the Bloodstone from 10 bags. Hardly a full time job :/

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Dear goodness.

I knew it would be bad, but that is just taking it to a ridiculous extreme. Seriously 500 dust, fragments, and ore? You have got to be kidding me. And it’s time gated to make it even worse.

What did they expect of this? Was this designed to be fun?

As if they knew what fun is supposed to be (looking at the passed year and their added content)…

You swing, swing, then you swing again…

+1 to all of this. Tired of this nonsense. There’s so many other stuff they can add to keep players paying and playing.

I want to know more about Dragonite ore.

Thought it was Click Wars 2? Click click click

Looks like orich ore isn’t that important, and priced shoot through the roof.. LOL….

TheDaiBish.9735:

I don’t get it.

I got a lot of them mats playing around 6 hours a week, and I’ve already got half of the Bloodstone from 10 bags. Hardly a full time job :/

Well I guess if the new mats drop in decent quantities, it may not be too bad. Although I’m assuming there is going to be a lot of rng in their drops (how much and how often) from the bags and such.

Still, going to be daunting for a lot of people, and I can’t really blame them. At first glance, some of those numbers are downright scary.

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Nuka Cola.8520:

Anet should learn to put ‘rare’ items in challenging content instead of ALWAYS being craftable inside mystic toilet or crafting stations. GW2 is becoming a Craft Simulation game and i don’t play an MMO to craft all my %$#& and then stand in a city asking myself why i spent so much time/money crafting an item when there’s no content to be experienced with it.

Want a legendary? buy one off the tp (or buy 90% of the mats and “grind” the skillpoints/karma needed) want minis? buy them off the tp. Want anything? buy it off the tp.

what in this game is even worth showing off to other people? What can I get for 2000 hours of playing your game that a fresh 80 cant get with a creditcard?

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

coronaas.4362:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Anet should learn to put ‘rare’ items in challenging content instead of ALWAYS being craftable inside mystic toilet or crafting stations. GW2 is becoming a Craft Simulation game and i don’t play an MMO to craft all my %$#& and then stand in a city asking myself why i spent so much time/money crafting an item when there’s no content to be experienced with it.

Want a legendary? buy one off the tp (or buy 90% of the mats and “grind” the skillpoints/karma needed) want minis? buy them off the tp. Want anything? buy it off the tp.

what in this game is even worth showing off to other people? What can I get for 2000 hours of playing your game that a fresh 80 cant get with a creditcard?

Exactly. Its D3 all over again-.-

That moment, when Colin only said that there won’t be any COMBAT grind…

You are not very observant, aren’t you ?

Olba.5376:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

that is a reasonable amount then, not much of grind. How’s Dragonites?

phiplayer.2865:

That moment, when Colin only said that there won’t be any COMBAT grind…

You are not very observant, aren’t you ?

Sorry, but if you think that’s the extent of what was said regarding grind then it’s you that hasn’t been paying attention.

Yea I’m not doing that.

Such a waste of great potential. Time to go play something else.

You guys complain too much.

Seriously, what did you expect?

/Log-in GW2
/Receive Ascended Weapon

???

Ascended tier is the bridge between exotic and legendary. The materials reflect that.

If you don’t want it, then fine. It’s not needed.

Hell Avenger.7021:

Olba.5376:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

that is a reasonable amount then, not much of grind. How’s Dragonites?

Got none from the Deluxe Gear Boxes I had, sadly.

Hell Avenger.7021:

Olba.5376:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

that is a reasonable amount then, not much of grind. How’s Dragonites?

Dragonites are time gated. You only get them once per day per location. From:

-Temple of Orr Chests
-World Boss Chests
-WvWvW Keeps and Castles

Hmm…maybe I’ll get around to it after I am done grinding in the SAB. They changed that too so it will take forever to get your baubles. Spent 95$ since the champ loot revision in support. I won’t be spending a dime for a while with this kind of stuff coming down the pipe.

This is way too grindy now.

I thought this game was about FUN, not GRIND….

Getting that ancient wood and orichalcum is going to be ridiculous… I just farmed for it myself and only found 5 nodes combined of both materials.

Doesn’t look all that bad. Time-sinky, yes, but not extreme.

Waste of time and money. GG they are completely clueless when it comes to the players and their own game, time to move on.

Theplayboy.6417:

Thoughts on the insane amount of Materials and Time Gating to acquire a single Ascended Weapon? As if this is what GW2 really needed in order to survive its second year on the market……

Hey GW2 you should consider paying a salary to all of your customers because playing GW2 is a full time job. For anyone who actually enjoys acquiring all this virtual non-sense can you please acquire and mail me the items in this below list? Thanks….

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gw2-ascended-greatsword-crafting-32.jpg

If the grind is too hard, then that stuff ain’t for you.

Most of that is regular mats anyway. There’s only a few things I don’t recognize which must be new.

Other than the 3 500 things you need which are time gated..
I already have all the other stuff x20 in my bank from normal game play.

The culprit is the time gated stuff the other mats are fine.

Shelledfade.6435:

This is way too grindy now.

I thought this game was about FUN, not GRIND….

Getting that ancient wood and orichalcum is going to be ridiculous… I just farmed for it myself and only found 5 nodes combined of both materials.

Ancient wood is pretty easy to get and salvaging helps with orichalcum.

What in the world are people complaining about?

There is literally only like 20g worth of mats there… I could go out and collect all that stuff in a single day.

Am I looking at a different page then people here?

ZudetGambeous.9573:

What in the world are people complaining about?

There is literally only like 20g worth of mats there… I could go out and collect all that stuff in a single day.

Am I looking at a different page then people here?

You’re just looking at the work differently is all.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Hell Avenger.7021:

Olba.5376:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

that is a reasonable amount then, not much of grind. How’s Dragonites?

Dragonites are time gated. You only get them once per day per location. From:

-Temple of Orr Chests
-World Boss Chests
-WvWvW Keeps and Castles

God 8 Dragonite Ore from the Stonemist Lord.

Olba.5376:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Hell Avenger.7021:

Olba.5376:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

that is a reasonable amount then, not much of grind. How’s Dragonites?

Dragonites are time gated. You only get them once per day per location. From:

-Temple of Orr Chests
-World Boss Chests
-WvWvW Keeps and Castles

God 8 Dragonite Ore from the Stonemist Lord.

so they drop in batches huh? Not so bad, not so bad at all.

ophidic.1279:

Shelledfade.6435:

This is way too grindy now.

I thought this game was about FUN, not GRIND….

Getting that ancient wood and orichalcum is going to be ridiculous… I just farmed for it myself and only found 5 nodes combined of both materials.

Ancient wood is pretty easy to get and salvaging helps with orichalcum.

Lol, sure it is buddy. Salvaging to get orichalc huh .. ? lol what game are you playing?

I think I can see where they are trying to go with this. When the game was shiny and new, to get exotics you had to max a craft and make them, which was choked up by low T6 mat drop rates; buy with Karma in Orr; or do some heavy dungeon runs.

Now a year out, people have stockpiled so much karma thakittens trivial to run to Orr and buy a set without blinking an eye. We have world events, laurels, or salvaged dungeon items to flip instantly for T6 mats to craft what we want. The player base got highly efficient at speed clearing dungeons for tokens. And retro achievement chests left people sitting on stacks of badges of honor.

Basically, even if you have little to no gold at all, its dumb easy to gear out a character as soon as you hit 80. There is little to no investment in time or effort at all. We get best in slot gear for a new alt with the crap we have laying around.

It was so easy to get exotics that every other piece of gear in the game was trivialized. Merch food and ecto salvage.

Ascended gear remedies this by making the crafts available from random elements of the game. Instead of farming Orr for moldy bags, we go do a few jumping puzzles, some world events, a mini dungeon or two and kill some champs. Meanwhile, we are also getting rid of the stockpile of hundreds of thousands of lower tier mats that are clogging up the trading post and our inventories. Exotics remain useful as gear and get more valuable as salvage.

Ascended also require fewer T6 materials and Ecto than they do any other material. To lend to the idea of getting rid of excess lower tier mats while letting you hold on to the majority of your high end materials for legendary progress.

This is how exotics should have been. Require time, investment and a diverse style of play in order to gear out a character; while still being able to progress towards your ultimate goal but not deprecating the quality below it.

The philosophy and implementation are rock solid. With exception to one bit…
Ascended materials should be daily bound to a character, not to an account. The way it sounds to me, if I have a hunstman and a weaponsmith at 500, if one refines a material then the other is locked out. My characters shouldn’t be stepping on each others toes in pursuit of their individual crafts. My Thief should be able to craft a bow for my Ranger, while my ranger is crafting a staff for my Mesmer, while my Mesmer is crafting a sword for my Thief. I don’t mind each of them having an individual cooldown. But all of them sharing a cooldown is overly limiting.

Jormag seems to have gave between 15-25 dragonite ore

I had received 25.

I have a 80% of that stuff already ready to go lol…. not much of a grind if you ask me.

Well… lets look on the bright side:

• Anet implements Tier Exotic +1 gear that will bring Competitive PvP into a serious imbalance.
• Tier Exotic +1 gear is impossible to create, because it requires ridiculous amount of materials.
• Nobody makes ascended, so nobody needs to get them, cause if nobody has them, PvP won’t be imbalanced.

On top of that.

• No more reason to play, since Ascended was ment as their newest stick/carrot.
• No more GW2 full-time job (aka. grinding), time to go play a real game.

Olba.5376:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Hell Avenger.7021:

Olba.5376:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Lambent.6375:

If the other mats are anything like this, I wouldn’t be too worried.

lol that’s hilarious… how many bags?

I suspect they will nerf it and screw anyone who doesn’t open in the next few hours…

Personally I ended up with 707 bloodstone dusts from a total of 79 bags.

that is a reasonable amount then, not much of grind. How’s Dragonites?

Dragonites are time gated. You only get them once per day per location. From:

-Temple of Orr Chests
-World Boss Chests
-WvWvW Keeps and Castles

God 8 Dragonite Ore from the Stonemist Lord.

Lambent.6375:

Jormag seems to have gave between 15-25 dragonite ore

I had received 25.

Oh sweet. Nice to hear they drop multiples instead of just one.

Maybe this isn’t so bad after all then. The rest of those mats aren’t too bad to get. It was the Ascended mats I was worried about the most. But seeing as they drop in multiples, that definitely eases the mind.

Shelledfade.6435:

ophidic.1279:

Shelledfade.6435:

This is way too grindy now.

I thought this game was about FUN, not GRIND….

Getting that ancient wood and orichalcum is going to be ridiculous… I just farmed for it myself and only found 5 nodes combined of both materials.

Ancient wood is pretty easy to get and salvaging helps with orichalcum.

Lol, sure it is buddy. Salvaging to get orichalc huh .. ? lol what game are you playing?

You mean you’re not aware you can get Ori from salvaging drops, even whites?

Swung a sword again.

cool

literally cannot wait for ascended armour too.

Oh my god, so many words and I have no idea what you just said.

If only ascended and legendaries didn’t have extra stats like fancy skins in gw1. then you know you are grinding for looks and people wouldn’t be complaining because my chaos axe and elite armor has the same stats as default plain jane axe and armor.

I just got 5 dragonite from the Maw. Sounds like you can collect all you need with just a couple days boss chasing.

Personally I’m happy to take my time and enjoy the process. There’s NOTHING in a video game that you NEED right this instance. People need to get some perspective.

Shelledfade.6435:

ophidic.1279:

Shelledfade.6435:

This is way too grindy now.

I thought this game was about FUN, not GRIND….

Getting that ancient wood and orichalcum is going to be ridiculous… I just farmed for it myself and only found 5 nodes combined of both materials.

Ancient wood is pretty easy to get and salvaging helps with orichalcum.

Lol, sure it is buddy. Salvaging to get orichalc huh .. ? lol what game are you playing?

Umm… Guild Wars 2?

When I heard you could salvage for ectos I was all like NO WAY because in GW1 they were super expensive. Turns out you can get 3 at a time from a yellow!

Made farming ectos easy peasy, salvaging cheapo yellows.

Now imagine if it takes this amount of mats per ascended armor piece +2 weeks per piece HAHAH will be glorious.

That list depends entirely on how long it takes to get the new mats.. the bloodstone dust I can verify is extremely easy to get from champ bags… the dragonite and other new mats I dont know. But as for the T6 mats and ore/wood, that will be easy!