Guild Wars 2

That’s… really not bad at all. Especially since they drop in bunches.

I’m liable to get what I need for an Ascended weapon by accident just playing normally.
(except the Dark Matter… cant say I’ve ever salvaged an exotic)

Well, yeah. Another item I am not gonna hunt. Karma / exotics are good enough for me

AcidicVision.5498:

I think I can see where they are trying to go with this. When the game was shiny and new, to get exotics you had to max a craft and make them, which was choked up by low T6 mat drop rates; buy with Karma in Orr; or do some heavy dungeon runs…

(remainder of post snipped for brevity)

But yah know, there were a lot of people who LIKED that, and they are the people who have flocked to the forum to voice their displeasure. Whether they are a majority, represent the overall sentiment of the player base, will leave in masse, etc., is irrelevant really.

They liked what was before, and don’t like that it’s changed. Period. It doesn’t matter how little the change is, or how significant or not the overall numbers will be. It’s a change they do not feel is needed, and feels like they are being pushed out of the game because of it.

I don’t see anything particularly wrong with that sentiment, even if some of the complaints come across very poorly, laced with spite and venom, and probably serve to have the exact OPPOSITE effect of what they want to see.

What could help the acquisition of most of these materials easily like the T6 and the T7 would be to include those materials in nodes some players are gatherers crafters and explorers and never set foot doing some of the things other players would do. Thought that exploration and gathering were supposed to be one of the main focuses in this game, if you don’t have much from exploration and you get nothing from gathering as far as these mats go, then you cut off part of your playerbase. That’s just my opinion tho. Weird.

Good news is it looks like they might have found the glitch causing the loot problems or DR or whatever was happening with that because I just finished playing post patch and it was a completely different loot experience than this morning. I actually got loot from the mobs during three orr events and on the way to the final event I was shocked!

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There is little-to-nothing you can accomplish in PvE that can’t be done in level 80 greens. So what’s the rush?

Legendaries, Fractals and ascended gear were put in place for grinders; for people who like longer term projects in their MMOs. If you aren’t one of those people, they aren’t for you.

Ascended gear is meant to be a mid range project between easy-as-pie exotics and supergrind legendaries. The mats I am familiar with on that list fit that bill exactly, and the time I’ve heard on the gated requirements fall into the two week range. That is nowhere near the time it takes for a legendary.

There is nothing inherently evil in time-gated content. It actually brings the time it takes for casuals and hardcore players to get any specific item closer together. It stretches the hardcore time, freeing them up do other things in game by limiting how long they can focus on a specific thing. Meanwhile gating barely affects casuals who play regularly, but for shorter sessions.

All that being said, I do really wish the Ascended items were statted the same as exotics, and were just sexy skins. And I don’t want any more power creep on our gear. I much prefer cosmetic progression.

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

Iunno about grind but someone’s already about to craft an ascended bow here in Divinity’s Reach…

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

MikaHR.1978:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless statement that tried to downplay it and they weren’t willing to give a realistic estimate mostly because I guess there not the ones that have to do it. I guess the joke’s on us.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

P2w ftw ! But yes my remark about infinite gold is hyperbole.

The joke is on those who will actually try to get those ascended. Not me in any case. I’m done with GW2, as many people, but I did try to give it an honest chance after seeing all my headstart friends leave.

Zaeon.3846:

Iunno about grind but someone’s already about to craft an ascended bow here in Divinity’s Reach…

Thats the whole irony of their crap system – if you have lot of gold (and if you are hardcore and whined “theres nothing to do at 80” you do) it will be very short ride lol

Implementation of ascended is pretty much…fail for all intents and purposes they say it has lol

Basharic.1654:

There is little-to-nothing you can accomplish in PvE that can’t be done in level 80 greens. So what’s the rush?

This is my favorite part. Us min/maxers care because it will drop seconds off the fastest runs. to everyone else it means literally nothing. If you arn’t farming fotm 40+ and if you arn’t speedrunning why are you even bothering to get these?

And I don’t want any more power creep on our gear. I much prefer cosmetic progression.

power creep means nothing when difficulty of content doesn’t change.

MikaHR.1978:

Zaeon.3846:

Iunno about grind but someone’s already about to craft an ascended bow here in Divinity’s Reach…

Thats the whole irony of their crap system – if you have lot of gold (and if you are hardcore and whined “theres nothing to do at 80”) it will be very short ride lol

Implementation of ascended is pretty much…fail

Which is the ultimate failing of a vertical progression as implemented here. It’s a common failing.

Basically those that will grind it will do it so fast no matter what. What’s the result? Since they just play the game to grind, they’ll demand even more grind.

Good thing I saved up on materials and leveled weaponsmith to 400, because lol.

ArchonWing.9480:

MikaHR.1978:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless statement that tried to downplay it and they weren’t willing to give a realistic estimate mostly because I guess there not the ones that have to do it. I guess the joke’s on us.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

P2w ftw ! But yes my remark about infinite gold is hyperbole.

P2W… sure… or like 80g…

but hey whatever.

Basharic.1654:

There is little-to-nothing you can accomplish in PvE that can’t be done in level 80 greens. So what’s the rush?

Legendaries, Fractals and ascended gear were put in place for grinders; for people who like longer term projects in their MMOs. If you aren’t one of those people, they aren’t for you.

Ascended gear is meant to be a mid range project between easy-as-pie exotics and supergrind legendaries. The mats I am familiar with on that list fit that bill exactly, and the time I’ve heard on the gated requirements fall into the two week range. That is nowhere near the time it takes for a legendary.

There is nothing inherently evil in time-gated content. It actually brings the time it takes for casuals and hardcore players to get any specific item closer together. It stretches the hardcore time, freeing them up do other things in game by limiting how long they can focus on a specific thing. Meanwhile gating barely affects casuals who play regularly, but for shorter sessions.

All that being said, I do really wish the Ascended items were statted the same as exotics, and were just sexy skins. And I don’t want any more power creep on our gear. I much prefer cosmetic progression.

The rush is to get this over with so we can go back to enjoying the game until the next bit of bullkitten is released.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

MikaHR.1978:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless statement that tried to downplay it and they weren’t willing to give a realistic estimate mostly because I guess there not the ones that have to do it. I guess the joke’s on us.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

P2w ftw ! But yes my remark about infinite gold is hyperbole.

P2W… sure… or like 80g…

but hey whatever.

Only? Well, I’ll take your word on it since in that case a lot of people would be getting it.

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

ArchonWing.9480:

MikaHR.1978:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless statement that tried to downplay it and they weren’t willing to give a realistic estimate mostly because I guess there not the ones that have to do it. I guess the joke’s on us.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

P2w ftw ! But yes my remark about infinite gold is hyperbole.

Okay this type of talk is dumb. People like myself that have been playing since launch… well 1k gold + is not anything special. Having the mats to craft these things is not anything special…

Hell I didn’t even play most of this summer… im sitting on 1643 gold. I could buy the mats off the broker right now and craft the weapon already.

Its not P2W at all.

I think Anet has finally realized that the game isn’t going to be the huge success it started out as.

It’s going to be the hardcore players that continue to play…the casuals will move on I bet and GW2 will be a game that you “hear” about but never play/play again. Kinda doubt it will last as long as GW1 either.

Anet has had zero idea on which direction it wants to go this past year.

coronaas.4362:

Basharic.1654:

There is little-to-nothing you can accomplish in PvE that can’t be done in level 80 greens. So what’s the rush?

This is my favorite part. Us min/maxers care because it will drop seconds off the fastest runs. to everyone else it means literally nothing. If you arn’t farming fotm 40+ and if you arn’t speedrunning why are you even bothering to get these?

And I don’t want any more power creep on our gear. I much prefer cosmetic progression.

power creep means nothing when difficulty of content doesn’t change.

Yep. I haven’t even logged in today and I already have a weapon with ascended stats. Stats, I might add, I can change on a whim. One down, two to go for my main set up. SAB gives me motion sickness so I have plenty of time to focus on new Teq, and farm if I feel like it.

Personally my guild is lazy even for 5 mans, so high level FOTM is not even in my world. I’ve been tossing WvW infusions on my laurel-bought stuff.

Namu.5712:

ArchonWing.9480:

MikaHR.1978:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless statement that tried to downplay it and they weren’t willing to give a realistic estimate mostly because I guess there not the ones that have to do it. I guess the joke’s on us.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

P2w ftw ! But yes my remark about infinite gold is hyperbole.

Okay this type of talk is dumb. People like myself that have been playing since launch… well 1k gold + is not anything special. Having the mats to craft these things is not anything special…

Hell I didn’t even play most of this summer… im sitting on 1643 gold. I could buy the mats off the broker right now and craft the weapon already.

Its not P2W at all.

and then you smack into the time gate, which is working as intended to prevent people from acquiring ascended weapons on day 1, aside from a lucky drop. yes, they do drop from mobs.

My main complaint is that if ANET wants us to collect 500 units of a certain material, why are stacks limited to 250 in our storage?! >_<

From the blog post:

“Ascended weapons can now drop anywhere ascended materials or other ascended items can be found.”

Also, gonna pass on crafting the weapons as I don’t need them nor their skins. May as well make a legendary for that amount of hassle.

Thinking of it…isn’t it easier to grind for a legendary?

Namu.5712:

ArchonWing.9480:

MikaHR.1978:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

2 weeks was earliest.

That of course includes either lot of gold or lot of grind.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless statement that tried to downplay it and they weren’t willing to give a realistic estimate mostly because I guess there not the ones that have to do it. I guess the joke’s on us.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

ArchonWing.9480:

So when they said 2 weeks did they assume either:

• You have infinite gold
• 24*14= 336 hours

As expected, complete trash.

There are already people with ascended weapons…

P2w ftw ! But yes my remark about infinite gold is hyperbole.

Okay this type of talk is dumb. People like myself that have been playing since launch… well 1k gold + is not anything special. Having the mats to craft these things is not anything special…

Hell I didn’t even play most of this summer… im sitting on 1643 gold. I could buy the mats off the broker right now and craft the weapon already.

Its not P2W at all.

Yes, you are so special. You get a gold star.

My point is that the estimate for peasant “average” players was pretty meaningless. Of course, if you have earned the gold like you it would be pretty easy.

But at least it’s not p2w, that much makes sense.

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

People on GW2 STILL don’t know a real grind. They’re just pampered and need some perspective.

ophidic.1279:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

People on GW2 STILL don’t know a real grind. They’re just pampered and need some perspective.

You Pro dude! LOL, getting a Legendary weapon for most people will take about 6 months. I have played many MMO’s and I have never encounter an item that took that long to get.

Amun Ra.6435:

ophidic.1279:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

People on GW2 STILL don’t know a real grind. They’re just pampered and need some perspective.

You Pro dude! LOL, getting a Legendary weapon for most people will take about 6 months. I have played many MMO’s and I have never encounter an item that took that long to get.

One highly cosmetic item… completely unimportant to stats or game play.

ophidic.1279:

Amun Ra.6435:

ophidic.1279:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

People on GW2 STILL don’t know a real grind. They’re just pampered and need some perspective.

You Pro dude! LOL, getting a Legendary weapon for most people will take about 6 months. I have played many MMO’s and I have never encounter an item that took that long to get.

One highly cosmetic item… completely unimportant to stats or game play.

That wasn’t my point was it?

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

Oh god, I remember hearing some stories from people I know regarding boss fights.

Imagine if only ONE party could tag and fight Jormag. That’s ff11

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

And then that game is part of history and failed miserably in the west (like all korean grinders)

Your point?

Its not as bad (YET) as some crappy korean grinder so that makes it allright rofl

And i like it….Grind Wars 2, its quite suitable

Amun Ra.6435:

ophidic.1279:

Amun Ra.6435:

ophidic.1279:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

People on GW2 STILL don’t know a real grind. They’re just pampered and need some perspective.

You Pro dude! LOL, getting a Legendary weapon for most people will take about 6 months. I have played many MMO’s and I have never encounter an item that took that long to get.

One highly cosmetic item… completely unimportant to stats or game play.

That wasn’t my point was it?

Oh i’m not even paying attention to who I replied to here.

exotic vs ascended berserkers gs( +50dmg +5 stat +2% crit dmg) for this +5% better item you must grind many expensive mats (need craft from 400 to 500 to start craft weapons) from 400-450 you need spend mats what cost 30-40g (tp price is going really quick up) and for ascended weapons need mats what cost another 20-30g

so for +5% dmg weapon you need mats for 70-80g dont know whyt they cannot maky it for 30-35 lauren + 20-30 guild commendation and some mats or 1000 wvw badge so for 5%weapons i need level crafting with mats what cost +50g + another 20-30g per weapon ( i have 7 berserkers weapons / 5 cleric weapons ) so 13 weapons

anet we need more level 80 maps/better class balance / another wvw map design not another grind i think this patch is good only for class what use 1-2 weapons like ranger/engie

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

To be fair, when Ascended was announced we were told that armor and weapons would also be coming. You cant really call it a treadmill, or mind blowing news, when its the same tier we have known about for a year. They just took their time introducing trinkets through various means.

That said, everything in any game, or life for that matter, is a grind. That term itself is very very subjective and could be applied to anything. It has no standard definition that anyone can agree on and gamers especially just throw it at anything they don’t like. Especially if they are unfavorably disposed towards the concept of the thing to begin with.

I, for one, don’t believe the Ascended weapons are a grind. This is mainly because I don’t feel the need to have one immediately. But I do regularly map clear on alts, do jumping puzzles, mini dungeons, world events, dungeons and Fractals. So I will get what I need to make an ascended weapon, probably within a few weeks, without even consciously seeking out the materials. The game will provide what you need through casual play, or the gold to get what you need for the bits that are out of the way. I cannot perceive grind in making progress towards new weapons by doing what I was doing already anyways.

Now, if I felt I had to have one now, and did it by doing twelve jumping puzzles back to back, speed clearing the same dungeon, or running the same champ circuit for hours, then sure…I would feel like that was grindy and I would burn out. But that is more of a symptom of how you are playing the game than how the game is designed.

To break it down, if I wanted to catch up with Breaking Bad before watching the last half of the last season and made myself sit through a day of watching every episode back to back on Netflix, then found myself completely burnt out on and apathetic towards the show…is that the shows fault or my own fault for “grinding” through it just to get to the end, instead of consuming the content at a pace that would have kept it enjoyable?

MikaHR.1978:

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

And then that game is part of history and failed miserably in the west (like all korean grinders)

Your point?

Its not as bad (YET) as some crappy korean grinder so that makes it allright rofl

And i like it….Grind Wars 2, its quite suitable

The point is everyone should shut their face about the grind because it’s NOT a grind.

Oh good, you like GW2. I have this overwhelming urge to yell at everyone how it’s not a proper grind.

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

o/ … I was one of those who were against ascended gear when it was announced because they couldn’t possibly balance new dungeons around the stat increase… silly me thinking they would actually release any new dungeons.

Since no one seemed to see this:

“Ascended weapons can now drop anywhere ascended materials or other ascended items can be found.”

Just keep champ farming or doing dungeons. Nothing to see here.

AcidicVision.5498:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

To be fair, when Ascended was announced we were told that armor and weapons would also be coming. You cant really call it a treadmill, or mind blowing news, when its the same tier we have known about for a year. They just took their time introducing trinkets through various means.

Just as they told they dont make grindy games and all the crap before launch

Just like that they could have just drop whole ascended crap and leave it at trinkets, or even better reduce ascended trinkets to exotic with infusion slot

Just as they could have implemented it not as a joke that doesnt serve ANY intent or purpose they say it serves and only increases the grind for people that dont want grind in the first place.

Yes, just like that they could have done a lot much better things but they implemented a joke for GW2 players.

Vorch.2985:

Since no one seemed to see this:

“Ascended weapons can now drop anywhere ascended materials or other ascended items can be found.”

Just keep champ farming or doing dungeons. Nothing to see here.

Precursors drop of lvl1 monsters also. So what?

ophidic.1279:

Amun Ra.6435:

ophidic.1279:

Amun Ra.6435:

ophidic.1279:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

People on GW2 STILL don’t know a real grind. They’re just pampered and need some perspective.

You Pro dude! LOL, getting a Legendary weapon for most people will take about 6 months. I have played many MMO’s and I have never encounter an item that took that long to get.

One highly cosmetic item… completely unimportant to stats or game play.

That wasn’t my point was it?

Oh i’m not even paying attention to who I replied to here.

I have no idea who I replied to…anyways..

MikaHR.1978:

AcidicVision.5498:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

To be fair, when Ascended was announced we were told that armor and weapons would also be coming. You cant really call it a treadmill, or mind blowing news, when its the same tier we have known about for a year. They just took their time introducing trinkets through various means.

Just as they told they dont make grindy games and all the crap before launch
Just like that they could just drop whole ascended crap and leave it at trinkets, or even better reduce ascended trinkets to exotic with infusion slot
Just as they could have implement it not as a joke that doesnt serve any intent or purpose they say it serves and only increases the grind for people that dont want grind in the first place.

Yes, just like that they could have done a lot much better things but they implemented a joke for GW2 players.

Fairly obvious you didn’t bother reading past the portion you quoted. If you can’t be bothered to read the discussion, don’t bother trying to reply. It just clutters the board.

ophidic.1279:

MikaHR.1978:

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

And then that game is part of history and failed miserably in the west (like all korean grinders)

Your point?

Its not as bad (YET) as some crappy korean grinder so that makes it allright rofl

And i like it….Grind Wars 2, its quite suitable

The point is everyone should shut their face about the grind because it’s NOT a grind.

Oh good, you like GW2. I have this overwhelming urge to yell at everyone how it’s not a proper grind.

It is a grind. This is not Korea.

MikaHR.1978:

ophidic.1279:

MikaHR.1978:

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

And then that game is part of history and failed miserably in the west (like all korean grinders)

Your point?

Its not as bad (YET) as some crappy korean grinder so that makes it allright rofl

And i like it….Grind Wars 2, its quite suitable

The point is everyone should shut their face about the grind because it’s NOT a grind.

Oh good, you like GW2. I have this overwhelming urge to yell at everyone how it’s not a proper grind.

It is a grind. This is not Korea.

Boy I had grinding super mario brothers to get to world 8

ophidic.1279:

MikaHR.1978:

ophidic.1279:

MikaHR.1978:

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

And then that game is part of history and failed miserably in the west (like all korean grinders)

Your point?

Its not as bad (YET) as some crappy korean grinder so that makes it allright rofl

And i like it….Grind Wars 2, its quite suitable

The point is everyone should shut their face about the grind because it’s NOT a grind.

Oh good, you like GW2. I have this overwhelming urge to yell at everyone how it’s not a proper grind.

It is a grind. This is not Korea.

Boy I had grinding super mario brothers to get to world 8

Good for you!

My time I spent playing the game is wasted with each update they do. pretty soon ascended armor will be out and that time spent grinding dungeons will also be worthless.

I can’t play a game that is doing the same thing WoW does. Playing this game is a worthless waste of time.

Before you know it, there will be gear above ascended. It’s a sick joke.

AcidicVision.5498:

MikaHR.1978:

AcidicVision.5498:

GOSU.9574:

Welcome to FLASHBACK 2012.

This is what happens to the peeps who say “LOL you noob if you think GW2 is a grind you don’t know what a grind is”. Yeah, all that “We don’t make grindy games”, ‘we don’t have a gear treadmill’, etc. All the peeps that harped on those of us who complained when the first implementations of all this began to surface. Yeah…

To all those peeps who said it wasn’t a grindy game…LOL.

To be fair, when Ascended was announced we were told that armor and weapons would also be coming. You cant really call it a treadmill, or mind blowing news, when its the same tier we have known about for a year. They just took their time introducing trinkets through various means.

Just as they told they dont make grindy games and all the crap before launch
Just like that they could just drop whole ascended crap and leave it at trinkets, or even better reduce ascended trinkets to exotic with infusion slot
Just as they could have implement it not as a joke that doesnt serve any intent or purpose they say it serves and only increases the grind for people that dont want grind in the first place.

Yes, just like that they could have done a lot much better things but they implemented a joke for GW2 players.

Fairly obvious you didn’t bother reading past the portion you quoted. If you can’t be bothered to read the discussion, don’t bother trying to reply. It just clutters the board.

I read it and i just didnt find anything useful in it sorry bro

MikaHR.1978:

ophidic.1279:

MikaHR.1978:

ophidic.1279:

MikaHR.1978:

Hrithmus.2583:

I played FF11 for years and that game was a GRIND. Almost a 2nd job no joke. This game is no where near the amount of grind that game was. Some weapons you would need to get items that had a 0.9% drop rate and the monster would only spawn every 72 hours AND you had to fight to get the monster while 19 other people were camping trying to kill it. So yeah this is nothing.

And then that game is part of history and failed miserably in the west (like all korean grinders)

Your point?

Its not as bad (YET) as some crappy korean grinder so that makes it allright rofl

And i like it….Grind Wars 2, its quite suitable

The point is everyone should shut their face about the grind because it’s NOT a grind.

Oh good, you like GW2. I have this overwhelming urge to yell at everyone how it’s not a proper grind.

It is a grind. This is not Korea.

Boy I had grinding super mario brothers to get to world 8

Good for you!

That’s what it is though, a terrible no good grind. AWFUL. All that jumping and block breaking. I DON’T HAVE THE TIME.

Did they release any content requiring ascended/legendary weapons?