Not really the point though. So many people are saying everyone hates it. At this moment in the poll 14 hate it but 10 like it and my wife couldn’t vote because we have the same IP.
All I’m saying is it’s closer than people here would lead you to believe.
I think the new rewards are great! Also, the speed at which you level (at lower levels).
For me, there seems little difference (overall) except for what I have mentioned above. Yes, things are different, but the overall leveling experience seems about the same.
I asked my Guildie what he thought (he’s one of those never-read-the-patch-notes/come-on-forums/doesn’t-follow-the-news types) and he said it seemed about the same. Lol. Today was his first experience with the NPE. But, his character was already level 20, so….
I only did this to show it’s not the end of the world. They way people are going on about it, there are people who absolutely despise it, but they’re not in any kind of majority.
A new patch comes out, the patch needs tweaks, the patch will be tweaked, and somehow life goes on.
People are talking about leaving, boycotting all that stuff. It’s all a storm in a teacup. This isn’t going to have a major affect on the game’s bottom line, with one possible exception.
If Anet is right and new people do end up staying longer, the game will be more successful in the long run.
And the long run is what MMOs are inevitably about.
Quite honestly if they just unlock utility earlier, most people might even like it.
We’ll level faster 1-15. And we get to unlock utility at the same time.
the last vote with only 2 option have 83% people like it and 17% don’t. I think most people fit the I don’t like it, but it don’t bother me too much, so if they make slight adjustment…
I’m only bothered because the utility is pushed back… The trait thing bothered me already before.
I see what you did there with the choice “the leveling would be ok with some adjustments”. You interpred it to your own case, and thats misleading. You stear it with exactly that option.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
I think the point of the poll was to quell the mass hysteria that has been fueled by a few people when in reality the problem is not as “game-breaking”. Sure some people don’t like somethings but its not the end of the world like some very vocal posters have led to believe.
I think the point of the poll was to quell the mass hysteria that has been fueled by a few people when in reality the problem is not as “game-breaking”. Sure some people don’t like somethings but its not the end of the world like some very vocal posters have led to believe.
Dont go whiteknighting and dismiss other peoples constructive critisism. Speak for yourself.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
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It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
Nothing sneaky about it. It’s simply that so many people seem to HATE this change and others might not feel as strongly.
The truth is if peoiple are voting it would be okay with some changes, they’re probably closer to liking it than not, because I gave them that option.
I could have put I like it but it would be better. I didn’t, to make it fairer.
The bottom line is it’s not as dire as some are painting it, period.
I think the point of the poll was to quell the mass hysteria that has been fueled by a few people when in reality the problem is not as “game-breaking”. Sure some people don’t like somethings but its not the end of the world like some very vocal posters have led to believe.
Dont go whiteknighting and dismiss other peoples constructive critisism. Speak for yourself.
What are you talking about? How am I white knighting FYI I voted (could be ok with some adjustments) so what are you talking about dismiss constructive criticism?
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
Nothing sneaky about it. It’s simply that so many people seem to HATE this change and others might not feel as strongly.
The truth is if peoiple are voting it would be okay with some changes, they’re probably closer to liking it than not, because I gave them that option.
I could have put I like it but it would be better. I didn’t, to make it fairer.
The bottom line is it’s not as dire as some are painting it, period.
Than word it,
Like
Dislike
N/A
Not sure yet
the way it’s worded now is so vague. I could put do you think congress is ran well? yes/no/it could with changes, well duh dislike and changes are nearly the samething. That’s why people dislike it.
i actually just ended up leveling a char before the update well up to level 60 that is and specifically started new char after update to try out new leveling mainly to see if there what the differences.to tell the truth. i dont really like or hate the new leveling it does affect me yes its different yes. i personally dont think it was needed . it isnt easier and not really any harder. i also got a friend who just started the game several days ago i dont think the new experience and i helped him through by answering question. hes still got questions so im not thinking the new leveling affected him. to be truth i asked what hethink he likes getting the rewards every level but all else he doesnt care.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
Nothing sneaky about it. It’s simply that so many people seem to HATE this change and others might not feel as strongly.
The truth is if peoiple are voting it would be okay with some changes, they’re probably closer to liking it than not, because I gave them that option.
I could have put I like it but it would be better. I didn’t, to make it fairer.
The bottom line is it’s not as dire as some are painting it, period.
Than word it,
Like
Dislike
N/A
Not sure yet
the way it’s worded now is so vague. I could put do you think congress is ran well? yes/no/it could with changes, well duh dislike and changes are nearly the samething. That’s why people dislike it.
well, here is the 2 vote option. I think people generally dislike it, but dont’ make it too much a deal with it.
And quite honestly, there are mainly only 2 complaint about it. Utility getting lock, and personal story getting lock. The other are more minor complaint about other things getting lock.
When people say they hate it to me at least it feels like they want the old system back but I like the new rate of leveling in the current system the new reward system the way PS is tied in better with the leveling process. The wording in the poll is fine with me. The only thing I don’t like is the skill locks but that is just one portion of the overall leveling experience.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
No, this is a actually a useful poll and not biased. I couldn’t have answered “no, I don’t like this change” as there are aspects about it, that I really do like (such as the personal story changes) and aspects that I loathe (gathering, pet control, weapon unlocks), but can be changed to make them a lot less annoying.
When people say they hate it to me at least it feels like they want the old system back but I like the new rate of leveling in the current system the new reward system the way PS is tied in better with the leveling process. The wording in the poll is fine with me. The only thing I don’t like is the skill locks but that is just one portion of the overall leveling experience.
Maybe the OP should reword his poll, how many people like things things getting level locked.
The OP was the one that dont’ like the trait lock, now he likes utility getting locked? I’m confused.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
Nothing sneaky about it. It’s simply that so many people seem to HATE this change and others might not feel as strongly.
The truth is if peoiple are voting it would be okay with some changes, they’re probably closer to liking it than not, because I gave them that option.
I could have put I like it but it would be better. I didn’t, to make it fairer.
The bottom line is it’s not as dire as some are painting it, period.
Than word it,
Like
Dislike
N/A
Not sure yet
the way it’s worded now is so vague. I could put do you think congress is ran well? yes/no/it could with changes, well duh dislike and changes are nearly the samething. That’s why people dislike it.
well, here is the 2 vote option. I think people generally dislike it, but dont’ make it too much a deal with it.
And quite honestly, there are mainly only 2 complaint about it. Utility getting lock, and personal story getting lock. The other are more minor complaint about other things getting lock.
So any slight adjustment people’ll be happy.
I don’t think things are usually black and white such as this poll suggests. People can like parts and dislike other parts. So, where is the option for that?
When people say they hate it to me at least it feels like they want the old system back but I like the new rate of leveling in the current system the new reward system the way PS is tied in better with the leveling process. The wording in the poll is fine with me. The only thing I don’t like is the skill locks but that is just one portion of the overall leveling experience.
Maybe the OP should reword his poll, how many people like things things getting level locked.
The OP was the one that dont’ like the trait lock, now he likes utility getting locked? I’m confused.
The wording is fine. It’s specific without being overly complicated.
The game is still prompting my level 5 to go to Blazeridge Steppes, apparently new challenges await me there. I base my leveling experience from there.
The game is still prompting my level 5 to go to Blazeridge Steppes, apparently new challenges await me there. I base my leveling experience from there.
There are also new challenges that await you in Frostgorge Sound.
The game is still prompting my level 5 to go to Blazeridge Steppes, apparently new challenges await me there. I base my leveling experience from there.
There are also new challenges that await you in Frostgorge Sound.
Yeah I know. I created a new character just to go through this leveling experience like a new player would so that I can give a more accurate feedback based on what is in the game now.
When people say they hate it to me at least it feels like they want the old system back but I like the new rate of leveling in the current system the new reward system the way PS is tied in better with the leveling process. The wording in the poll is fine with me. The only thing I don’t like is the skill locks but that is just one portion of the overall leveling experience.
Maybe the OP should reword his poll, how many people like things things getting level locked.
The OP was the one that dont’ like the trait lock, now he likes utility getting locked? I’m confused.
The wording is fine. It’s specific without being overly complicated.
The wording has two negatives which are nearly the same thing but one sounds like “oh it’s not that big a deal, just a few lil bugs and such.” Well three counting hate. It should just be 4 simple options since dislike = changes need to made already.
Let me put it this way; I have zero interest in ever leveling up another char in GW2. Leveling prior to the April 15, 2014 patch was fun. Now it’s a PITA.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
Nothing sneaky about it. It’s simply that so many people seem to HATE this change and others might not feel as strongly.
The truth is if peoiple are voting it would be okay with some changes, they’re probably closer to liking it than not, because I gave them that option.
I could have put I like it but it would be better. I didn’t, to make it fairer.
The bottom line is it’s not as dire as some are painting it, period.
Than word it,
Like
Dislike
N/A
Not sure yet
the way it’s worded now is so vague. I could put do you think congress is ran well? yes/no/it could with changes, well duh dislike and changes are nearly the samething. That’s why people dislike it.
well, here is the 2 vote option. I think people generally dislike it, but dont’ make it too much a deal with it.
And quite honestly, there are mainly only 2 complaint about it. Utility getting lock, and personal story getting lock. The other are more minor complaint about other things getting lock.
So any slight adjustment people’ll be happy.
My only issue with the two vote option is that my only choices are yes I like it or no I dont like it. Neither applies because simply put it doesn’t affect me.
I do not like it so I am grouped with people who do dislike it even though I do not dislike it.
The vote is kinda bias imho, should just be “Do you like this new changes? Yes/No/Not apply”. Breaking down the not-like into so many categories while like in just one is an attempt to divert the Nah votes.
Btw. I voted “not apply” option, since the trait update already kill my desire to make new alts, this update really just reinforce it.
Yes the vote is pretty well worded to divert people from the dislike vote. Pretty sneaky.
Nothing sneaky about it. It’s simply that so many people seem to HATE this change and others might not feel as strongly.
The truth is if peoiple are voting it would be okay with some changes, they’re probably closer to liking it than not, because I gave them that option.
I could have put I like it but it would be better. I didn’t, to make it fairer.
The bottom line is it’s not as dire as some are painting it, period.
Than word it,
Like
Dislike
N/A
Not sure yet
the way it’s worded now is so vague. I could put do you think congress is ran well? yes/no/it could with changes, well duh dislike and changes are nearly the samething. That’s why people dislike it.
Doesn’t matter. Would be okay with some adjustments just means its NOT ok now.
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Doesn’t matter. Would be okay with some adjustments just means its NOT ok now.
Like I said, 68% of people voted that the patch is not OK. So, that’s 68% of the people that responded to Vayne’s poll which he is trying to use to defend the current patch.
Yeah. Vayne is not being dishonest or misleading in any way. Nope. Not happening.
The New Game Experience is justified.
Look at WoW, Rift, Star Wars Galaxies. They changed their game because their populations peaked.
GW2 is no exception.
ok so people better understand what I feel the OP was trying to detail
1) ok but needs changes (I like the new system but few things can be changed i.e skill locks)
2) I like system as is.
3) I don’t care
4) Don’t like changes
5) Hate it rage quit
Whole point of poll imo was so people stop trying to say that EVERYONE thinks the “sky is falling”
He should’ve worded it better then. It’s silly to assume that someone would think that ABSOLUTELY every single person in the game hated the patch anyway.
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He should’ve worded it better then. It’s silly to assume that someone would think that ABSOLUTELY every single person in the game hated the patch anyway.
If you look at the forums some people where trying to say just that. (ABSOLUTELY)
He should’ve worded it better then. It’s silly to assume that someone would think that ABSOLUTELY every single person in the game hated the patch anyway.
If you look at the forums some people where trying to say just that. (ABSOLUTELY)
Hyperbolic vs categorical
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He should’ve worded it better then. It’s silly to assume that someone would think that ABSOLUTELY every single person in the game hated the patch anyway.
If you look at the forums some people where trying to say just that. (ABSOLUTELY)
Hyperbolic vs categorical
All you have to do is look at the forums for proof of what I am saying. Look back when patch release to get an even better idea.
He should’ve worded it better then. It’s silly to assume that someone would think that ABSOLUTELY every single person in the game hated the patch anyway.
If you look at the forums some people where trying to say just that. (ABSOLUTELY)
Hyperbolic vs categorical
Which is the argument being tried anyway – the patch was terrible and kills puppies and if you disagree you must be fanboy white knighting.
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the poll is fine, what it means is that only 20% of the population likes/doesnt care.
This mean 80% of people are disatisfied.
thats really a large %
as far as with some changes, yeah, with some changes it would be fine.
remove skill locks, remove skill point locks, make personal story attemptable at any level.
i guess the problem with your poll is with some changes is a really vague statement.
edit:problem 2 is that he breaks disliking it into 3 categories, and liking it into 1. but eh, you can just add it up, and you see a pretty telling picture.
He should’ve worded it better then. It’s silly to assume that someone would think that ABSOLUTELY every single person in the game hated the patch anyway.
If you look at the forums some people where trying to say just that. (ABSOLUTELY)
80% of people not being satisfied with a change is relatively unheard of, and 10% of whats left doesnt care.
