Guild Wars 2

Last night I logged on and sat around LA for a while. Considered doing some dungeons but then thought why even bother getting gear that in 2 days will be obsolete? Then I also thought with this new gear and new dungeon the exotics that enticed many to run these dungeons will be gone and we will all be on the hamster wheel of FotM. Despondent about a game I really love going this way I logged off 20 minutes later. Has anyone else felt that way?

Well I have obviously halted my gear acqusition. Now it will just be a waiting game for each piece of ascended.

I did log yesterday , then did nothing , started to watch TV. Forgot i was even online.

I am watching the trading prices of Orichalcum rings and Orichalcum itself. I will continue to run dungeons, for the aesthetics and to help my friends with their Dungeon Master Achievments. As Arah is finally unlocked, many of them, and an alt of my own, can now progress to the end of the story.

Ascended armour irritates me, but I’ll play the grinding game. I don’t want to give up on GW2 just yet.

So you are bummed because of 2 rings and a backpack?

Because that is all the ascended there will be in two days.

Yes i felt that way yesterday. Didn’t log in today and i wont until anet stops this madness.
No motivation in game. zilch. Can’t believe they’re doing this.

How can dungeon gear be obsolete when they are basically skins?

Yep, logged on for 5 minutes last night then logged off again and played Skyrim instead.

Somehow the OP is suggesting that the main motivation to play dungeons is to get more powerful gear….

If that’s the case I don’t see how the new tier is a bad thing, it will at least motivate the OP to play dungeons.

samanosuke.4508:

How can dungeon gear be obsolete when they are basically skins?

Some folks use them for end armor, instead of crafting or buying a perfect set.

If they were skins, why are they exotic then. Cultural & order armor is skins imho (as it is rare armor and therefore far from max even under current max definition).

people are way too demanding.
i m curious to see the amount of hours they logged in so far…

good luck anet, but i really think you should settle to be like other single player /coop games.
throw a dlc here and there and call it a day.
nothing can save the mmo from hardcores.

I havn’t even logged in since I read the blog. Well, I did for about a minute to see if LA chat had anything interesting to say, but it was suspiciously quiet. Then I went and downloaded the Path Of Exile beta that’s been sitting in my mailbox for the past week.

It’s not a job guys and girls.

Log on if you want to play, if you don’t then don’t.

Do something else, you’ll be back playing soon enough.

Whatever is fun for you, go ahead and do it.

I didn’t think GW2 was about getting top gear and quitting, at least not for me.
People can’t even see, unless you show them, what your gear is. So it’s only for you.

I totally get that ANet has not lived up to what they talked about pre-launch. When it’s ready and assorted campaign promises… But let’s be real — the one thing they did deliver is a game that gear doesn’t matter much and you can get full exotics with crafting/gathering, a credit card, dungeon runs, karma, wvw. That’s still true and that gear still will have the same stats it has now. But it was never intended that as soon as you get full gear, you’re done.

I have no motivation to play since the blog post.
It makes no sense to gear up any of my characters because new content with better gear is comming. If I level any of my alts it means I have to gear them up too later on in the game and keep on doing that forever.

I don’t think I will be able to log in again. Honestly I really want to ignore this feeling of disappointment and just play but if I imagine the whole “gearing” up like I did in WoW to play the content… no thanks.

I’m in the same boat. Yesterday was the first time since headstart that I had the time and opportunity to play, but just couldn’t get myself to. I logged in, stared at the screen for a moment, then logged out again. No matter how much I was originally looking forward to the Lost Shores update, today I made the decision that I will not return to this game until they come with some significant improvements… especially in the way ArenaNet just waltz over things they ‘promised’ earlieron.
Haven’t played Path of Exile at all for the past 2 months… maybe I should go back there and see how much that game has improved.

Joey.2769:

Despondent about a game I really love going this way I logged off 20 minutes later. Has anyone else felt that way?

I felt the same as you but rather quickly found a way to keep playing without feeling demoralized. Don’t play for armor. Ignore the stats. Follow your other goals, acquiring unique skins, getting titles and world completion. Transmute what drops for you on the skins you like. Don’t waste time chasing something you can’t be 100% sure you will be able to achieve.

Guys lets look at the real reason…

If you want to use your gear from all the old instances and well everything now… you have to get the gear then BUY the TRANSMUTE STONES from the BLACK LION TRADING POST to be able to give the old gear the stats…. Great money making scheme… keep doing this every couple of mouths and more and more gear you need to buy transmute stones for.

I think this is silly because most people prob’ly have had their gear for a while, don’t you think? I just got a full 2nd set (magic-find) of exotics. Yet despite not having anything to gear-up for, prior to the blog post, I still played.

I’m deeply disappointed in ArenaNet in many of their decisions, in the many weeks that my son’s storyline has been blocked by a bug, in the portal-bomb-culling-fest that’s wvw, in When it’s ready™ and related lies.

But having/not-having top gear… not gonna qq on that.

I didn’t even log in I have 3 level 80 none in exotics yet and I’m not sure I want another wall in my way to endgame.

Had I known we were going to see another tier in the gear structure I might have played the game differently and put my time all into one character.

Now I’m just discouraged and think I might pack it in.

If i new this was going to happen i wouldn’t have purchased the game or put any extra in gem purchases… No more money to A.Net from me. The only motivation i have now is to load up the game and look at my character i just spent all my gold getting T3 and full exotics

im on the same situation, i log in only to chat, or flame with the people that i know in game…
My main char is full exotics, but i was starting to do massive dungeon runs to acquire better skins to use, and experencing WvW now that im with maxed stats. But this incoming patch, has drained all my desire to play.
I really dont wish to start a gear collection to be always on top stats like any other kittening games! and this is why i bought this game.

No reason not to do dungeons if you like the look of the skin, which alot of people do, and there will always be people running the older dungeons.

Because your Exotic gears going to last at least 2 if not 4+ months before it’s replaced.

Based on current content patches, as that’s all we have to go on.

November will be lost shores, and will introduce a new area, dungeon and 2 rings and a back pack.

December will be Wintersday, and will likely involve content and an event circling around that, so it’s less likely we’ll have more Ascendance gear added.

So realistically we’re looking at January for the next lot of Ascendance pieces, which if they follow Novembers trend could only be another 3 slots of equipment.

Claiming there’s no point in getting exotics is naive to say the least.

Bhelliom.5324:

If i new this was going to happen i wouldn’t have purchased the game or put any extra in gem purchases… No more money to A.Net from me. The only motivation i have now is to load up the game and look at my character i just spent all my gold getting T3 and full exotics

Are you saying because of new gear you no longer like the look of your character? lol, stat wise, the new gear won’t be needed as much as everybody thinks it wil lol. Only for the dungeon mostly

If two ring slots and a backpack makes you not want to log in I’m pretty sure you have other issues you need to address. That said even with full ascended sets exotics will be far from useless seeing as the power increase is so minute it won’t even be noticed, the only major increase will be Agony resistance which only matters at the absolute hardest levels of the dungeon.

I generally run pugs to do dungeons after I get back from work. It generally takes me less than 2 minutes to fill up AC exp on Stormbluff. Last night it took me over 10 minutes. I gave up on HotW and CoE as no one was ready to do it. Both of which I could fill in less than 5 minutes in general.

My friend-list was pretty much at LA. I believe, it is the effect of wait and see as the new patch is in the looming. The effect got accentuated a bit more because of the introduction of items that will make current items obsolete. Thank you for introducing mudflation ANET.

Deimos.9285:

… even with full ascended sets exotics will be far from useless seeing as the power increase is so minute it won’t even be noticed, the only major increase will be Agony resistance which only matters at the absolute hardest levels of the dungeon.

Why do it then? Why fix something that is not broken? Why not merely add agony resistance to the existing armors after completing a story-mode version of FotM?

Please do not argue based on fallacies. ANET is introducing gear treadmill to please wow crybabies by deviating from the core principle of this franchise. That’s the issue here.

I used to play 10+ hours a day and would finish up my work as quickly as possible just to get back into the game.. After the announcement I haven’t logged in once.
Well my employer will be happy now at least..

I ve become attached to my characters but this new gear threadmill and what s worse lies from ANET made me so disheartened i cant even get myself to play anymore.

HOLY HELLLL…… people seriously need to calm down. The gear hasn’t even been added (of which it will be only 2 rings and a back pack) and already you are saying “aww man my gear will be useless in 2 days anyway so why bother?”.

How about you guys just wait and see how they play things out? Oh wait I’m asking people on the internet to do something sensible, what’s wrong with me? Oh well I’ll continue to keep playing in my exotic and still keep killing bads (which there are A LOT of, seriously there are so many bads that play this game).

yea i do this all the time… log on check the TP… and wonder what to do… its better if my friends are online tho.. thats more fun.

velmeister.4187:

Why do it then? Why fix something that is not broken? Why not merely add agony resistance to the existing armors after completing a story-mode version of FotM?

Please do not argue based on fallacies. ANET is introducing gear treadmill to please wow crybabies by deviating from the core principle of this franchise. That’s the issue here.

Adding in ascended gear is not a gear treadmill, it is adding in a harder to obtain tier of gear that actually feels like you worked for it. It would only become a treadmill if they
increased the stats of them every single content patch forcing you to participate in dungeons to “keep up”.

I’ll state this again, you do not need ascended gear to do the fractals dungeon, and presumably further dungeons down the road. The only time you will ever need it is for agony resistance which only matters at the absolute hardest end of the repeatable dungeon, I can almost guarantee this won’t apply to most people playing this game. Think of it as “hard mode” gear, something to strive for beyond exotics.

Logged in last night for the first time since Mad King. Tried to do a dungeon with a fail pug of bad players. Got bored and had no motivation to do WvWvW because 1) servers are imbalanced, and 2) ANET nerfed badge drop rates which is a slap in the face to players who don’t want to play a Korean grindfest game.

Story of my GW2 experience at level 80.

Deimos what you’re missing is where linsey says “This is the first level” “lots of room t grow” “as we add more pieces and more tiers” “rare and special infusions” “more to come”

So yeah.

It’s pretty much wholesale whoring the franchise out after only 3 months on the market and a gear treadmill without any interesting or redeeming mechanics at all.

Same here. It’s not the quantity of gear that bothers me, it’s the fact they decided to sell out to the content locusts. I am not sure I want to watch another train crash. Was fun for a while though.

And don’t forget they mentioned they want to add progression to WvW, which I’m sure will end well. ‘cause nothing says "I’m better at playing this game than you are" more than “I played this game longer than you and auto-win”.
ohhhh yay

I played for 3.5 hours last night and got my 3rd character to level 80… Ended up finishing map completion in Straits of Devastation with a random player and had a blast

I’m going to hold off gearing her though until after the update.

I also halted getting gear for my other characters (all 80). No need to waste gold or time on something that will soon be obsolete. Right now, I am logged in but not really doing anything in the game.

velmeister.4187:

Please do not argue based on fallacies. ANET is introducing gear treadmill to please wow crybabies by deviating from the core principle of this franchise. That’s the issue here.

so what u are saying is they shouldnt facilitate the ‘WoW crybabies’ but should instead facilitate the ‘GW1 crybabies’ contradictory much?

i assume this post will be deleted again, as my last post pointing out my OPINION was…. oh well my opinion doesnt count for much it seems……

I feel ya i do.
kinda sad now

Joey.2769:

Last night I logged on and sat around LA for a while. Considered doing some dungeons but then thought why even bother getting gear that in 2 days will be obsolete? Then I also thought with this new gear and new dungeon the exotics that enticed many to run these dungeons will be gone and we will all be on the hamster wheel of FotM. Despondent about a game I really love going this way I logged off 20 minutes later. Has anyone else felt that way?

If I ever did feel that way, the last thing I’d do is visit the forum (any forum, for that matter) to share my angst.

Can I have your stuff?

Methias.3521:

How about you guys just wait and see how they play things out?

And what exactly do you think is happening? They are not motivated because they are now being cautious. If time is money and they have to consider how they spend it well, don’t you think they’re going to pass on currently available content until the armors are released? They’re in the state of “Why bother?” when there isn’t enough information. Will their time have been wasted? Will it be worth it?

Funny that you are up in arms and telling them to ‘wait and see’ yet that is what they are doing. Waiting and seeing if they should invest any time in doing anything at all.

Encaladus.5291:

velmeister.4187:

Please do not argue based on fallacies. ANET is introducing gear treadmill to please wow crybabies by deviating from the core principle of this franchise. That’s the issue here.

so what u are saying is they shouldnt facilitate the ‘WoW crybabies’ but should instead facilitate the ‘GW1 crybabies’ contradictory much?

i assume this post will be deleted again, as my last post pointing out my OPINION was…. oh well my opinion doesnt count for much it seems……

Except you’re insulting GW1 players who have 10x the right to voice their opinion of GW2 than MMO hoppers do. Do us a favour, yeah. Please learn what you’re talking about before insulting people.

Zen.1740:

Encaladus.5291:

velmeister.4187:

Please do not argue based on fallacies. ANET is introducing gear treadmill to please wow crybabies by deviating from the core principle of this franchise. That’s the issue here.

so what u are saying is they shouldnt facilitate the ‘WoW crybabies’ but should instead facilitate the ‘GW1 crybabies’ contradictory much?

i assume this post will be deleted again, as my last post pointing out my OPINION was…. oh well my opinion doesnt count for much it seems……

Except you’re insulting GW1 players who have 10x the right to voice their opinion of GW2 than MMO hoppers do. Do us a favour, yeah. Please learn what you’re talking about before insulting people.

This isn’t Guild Wars 1, it’s Guild Wars 2. Stop feeling so entitled that you were a dedicated GW1 player (I was too).

Plunder.8195:

Somehow the OP is suggesting that the main motivation to play dungeons is to get more powerful gear….

If that’s the case I don’t see how the new tier is a bad thing, it will at least motivate the OP to play dungeons.

One Dungeon, and only One Dungeon. The Dungeons that already exist will be ghost towns. Good luck finding a PUG for them after this. It’s pissed me off enough when other games have done this after YEARS, but having such a huge swath of content crapped on like this three months after launch is bizarre. I honestly don’t know what ANet is thinking, and can only assume we’ve all terribly misinterpreted everything they’ve told us so far.

Deimos.9285:

This isn’t Guild Wars 1

Yeah obviously, it’s nowhere near as unique or good as GW1.

Deimos.9285:

entitled

Way to make your post invalid.

I had the same experience. And once the Ascended gear is out – I’ll think about getting it and realize that it too will be obsolete in 3 months. And then I’ll stop playing completely.

Zen.1740:

Encaladus.5291:

velmeister.4187:

Please do not argue based on fallacies. ANET is introducing gear treadmill to please wow crybabies by deviating from the core principle of this franchise. That’s the issue here.

so what u are saying is they shouldnt facilitate the ‘WoW crybabies’ but should instead facilitate the ‘GW1 crybabies’ contradictory much?

i assume this post will be deleted again, as my last post pointing out my OPINION was…. oh well my opinion doesnt count for much it seems……

Except you’re insulting GW1 players who have 10x the right to voice their opinion of GW2 than MMO hoppers do. Do us a favour, yeah. Please learn what you’re talking about before insulting people.

i spent the same money as u did to buy the game GUILD WARS TWO (read not guild wars ONE) what makes u think u have any more right than i do to voice my OPINION?