Guild Wars 2

Lishtenbird.2814:

Agreed. The existing “cosmetics mounts” are essentially toys. I’m fine with toys, but once they’re called “mounts”, even “cosmetic”, we’re opening a can of wurms.

Those “toys” are using the same concept as traditional mounts, therefore if you want them to stay the same just vote for Cosmetic Mounts.

The same for speed bonus: where’s the generic “none”? No, not the “other”. NONE.

Once again, read the opening post. The second poll is only for those who voted the second option in the first one, so we can talk about that sub-subject. So, if you vote for mounts having a speed boost, go to the second poll and vote on how much of a speedboost you want… If you don’t want mounts to give a speed boost then don’t vote on the second poll.

If everyone took the time to Read the first Post, the TOTAL votes on the second poll should equal those who voted (2) on the first one….

PS: Because is might be confusing, if anyone knows of a good free poll creator that supports nested polls (show poll 2 only to those who choose option 2 on the first one) then I can use that so it’s less confusing.

Blude.6812:

Please merge mount thread!

The reason why I don’t want them merged is because the mega thread is about everything, this is more specific.

Eric.6109:

Voted, good idea.

I hate it how on my warrior I need to waste trait points on it or use skills that have much bigger CD in relation to the speed buff they offer

Class balance

maddoctor.2738:

Blude.6812:

Please merge mount thread!

The reason why I don’t want them merged is because the mega thread is about everything, this is more specific.

Up to a mod to do it I guess. Went to report it and found someone else already had done so. So hopefully it wiil merge soon. It is just another mount thread regardless of the symantics used.

i know we have waypoints but cant we get mounts in this game like other mmrpgs it woud be really nyc

Nope.

EDIT: first

No. There won’t be mounts. Where’s the dead horse gif?

I’m gonna make an image for the next mount thread.

I don’t mean to sound rude or anything, but I see a few topics like this, wanting things that other MMOs have in this game. This game is meant to be different to other MMOs, such as not having a subscription fee, not having player housing, not having PvE duelling, and of course, not having mounts.

If people want all the things that other MMOs have, why don’t they just ask that other MMO to remove the Monthly Subscription Fee?

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You see alot of topics where people are quite unsure and therefore arguements start. When it comes to mounts though, most people in the forums and in-game who I have seen sharing their opinions about the matter, do actually hate the idea.

JustTrogdor.7892:

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Thats one sad mount.

Can we have a gem store item that looks like a dead horse, has no use and call it mount?

penelopehannibal.8947:

I don’t mean to sound rude or anything, but I see a few topics like this, wanting things that other MMOs have in this game. This game is meant to be different to other MMOs, such as not having a subscription fee, not having player housing, not having PvE duelling, and of course, not having mounts.

If people want all the things that other MMOs have, why don’t they just ask that other MMO to remove the Monthly Subscription Fee?

Player Housing exists in GW1 FYI.

We had Guild Halls and we had the Hall of Monuments.

As a side note, it is beyond me why we don’t have either of those in this game, since particularly the latter proved to be a huge success in revitalizing the game and provided purely cosmetic rewards and a carrot on a stick, and promoting diversification of gameplay across PvP and PvE.

Please no. We already have waypoints, long range jumping skills and swiftness boon.

Wanze.8410:

JustTrogdor.7892:

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Thats one sad mount.

Can we have a gem store item that looks like a dead horse, has no use and call it mount?

“Dead Mount” gem store item? Click on it to replace your skills like the other toy-mounts, but it just drags behind you and reduces your speed by 33%.

penelopehannibal.8947:

I don’t mean to sound rude or anything, but I see a few topics like this, wanting things that other MMOs have in this game. This game is meant to be different to other MMOs, such as not having a subscription fee, not having player housing, not having PvE duelling, and of course, not having mounts.

If people want all the things that other MMOs have, why don’t they just ask that other MMO to remove the Monthly Subscription Fee?

I have made my opinion clear on mounts already so just jumped in to clear that marketing hype used and relayed through your statement, my opinion.

1) Being a b2p cash shop focused mmo is nothing new or unique to this genre.
2) Not having dueling, housing, mounts, and xpacs just means a lack of features and content.
3) Waypoints-nothing new to this genre
4) LS- Been around in this genre way before Anet, but it was called holiday events in between xpacs (brewfest, Rakghoul, just to name a few from a few games), Anet just put that on steroids for a one time use and eventually monetized.
5) Professions- Warrior, Engineer (shaman), Ranger (Hunter), Necro (Warlock), Thief (Rogue/Stalker), Gaurdian (Paladin), etc…copy/paste that all mmo’s do, except for token class like Druid, Mesmer, etc..
6) Weapon types- same ol same ol
7) SPvP/Arena-esport in a mmo….
8) Boons/Buggs Cond/Cond
9) Vertical gear grind-check
10) PvE server only-check
11) Dungeons

Sure Anet has done some unique things like the art style, combat, WvW (kinda), limited action bar, soft self trinity, etc.. but I wouldn’t call a lack of content/features in some areas, or the direction Anet has taken as “different” or that “outside of the box” they just did it their way like other mmo’s do, better in some ways, and not, depending on the view of the player.

Mounts already exist in the game. We have a Riding broom, a magic carpet, and a sonic tunneling tool. They are purely, 100% cosmetic, and do not increase player speed. All they change is your movement animation out of combat.

Those are the kind of “Mounts” I would like to see more of. Maybe a Charr Tank, an Asura Golem, or a Moa/Dolyak/Horse/Devourer/etc. if you really want to ride something. Change your movement animations out of combat, but no actual speed boost.

And there should be no speed boost because movement speed is/should be factored into class balance. Warriors should be slower than Thieves and Rangers, etc.

Chrispy.5641:

And there should be no speed boost because movement speed is/should be factored into class balance. Warriors should be slower than Thieves and Rangers, etc.

And yet, Warriors move faster than Thieves and Rangers.
Move speed as a “class balance” is actually pretty terrible, considering being a “slow” class isn’t fun. Mesmers and Guardians have it really rough.

Not a statement for mounts, necessarily, but balancing for speed is a WvW/PvP concept. Open world should be more equal on travel time.

JustTrogdor.7892:

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Earth ponies are only one possibility.

Mounts:

Personal Opinion – No.
Why:

• Already have movement boosts per class
• Already have WP system in place for fast travel
• Individual maps not big enough to warrant them
• Map design not geared toward mounts
• Already have “mounts” like broom, etc which are not widely used as is
• Strictly vanity items that would take up valuable dev time to make

Seriously, there are WAY more important things in this game that need to be addressed since they actually affect the game and its player base adversely. Mounts would be nothing more than another money grab/vanity item that a small fraction of the player base would actually partake in, all while leaving potentially game killing problems to fester longer if they are developed instead. Plenty of other games out there with mounts. GW has never had them and frankly never should.

Wetpaw.3487:

penelopehannibal.8947:

I don’t mean to sound rude or anything, but I see a few topics like this, wanting things that other MMOs have in this game. This game is meant to be different to other MMOs, such as not having a subscription fee, not having player housing, not having PvE duelling, and of course, not having mounts.

If people want all the things that other MMOs have, why don’t they just ask that other MMO to remove the Monthly Subscription Fee?

I have made my opinion clear on mounts already so just jumped in to clear that marketing hype used and relayed through your statement, my opinion.

1) Being a b2p cash shop focused mmo is nothing new or unique to this genre.
2) Not having dueling, housing, mounts, and xpacs just means a lack of features and content.
3) Waypoints-nothing new to this genre
4) LS- Been around in this genre way before Anet, but it was called holiday events in between xpacs (brewfest, Rakghoul, just to name a few from a few games), Anet just put that on steroids for a one time use and eventually monetized.
5) Professions- Warrior, Engineer (shaman), Ranger (Hunter), Necro (Warlock), Thief (Rogue/Stalker), Gaurdian (Paladin), etc…copy/paste that all mmo’s do, except for token class like Druid, Mesmer, etc..
6) Weapon types- same ol same ol
7) SPvP/Arena lol esport in a mmo….
8) Boons/Buggs Cond/Cond
9) Vertical gear grind-check
10) PvE server only-check
11) Dungeons

Sure Anet has done some unique things like the art style, combat, WvW (kinda), but I wouldn’t call a lack of content or the direction Anet has taken as “different” or that “outside of the box.”

There is no marketing hype in my statement.

This game has mounts. Here’s proof. Find a mount of your choice and let your imagination flow. Imagination is always better than reality.

Wetpaw.3487:

Sure Anet has done some unique things like the art style, combat, WvW (kinda), but I wouldn’t call a lack of content or the direction Anet has taken as “different” or that “outside of the box.”

No mounts, no dueling and the other wow stuff you want to try to alter the game with, are part of the reasons I play GW2 and do not play those other games. I like GW2 because it is different and their direction is not like other games, and doesn’t want or need to rely on content in other games. What you see as lacking I see as refreshing and continuance of precedence set in GW1 not having these types of content. That historical precedence and wanting/liking the differences between GW2 and other mmo’s are the reasons you get the dead horse pictures, merged threads, and the replies that are given in the multiple threads, generally with the same posters and the same circular arguments.

I like being able to share nodes, and to casually wander around without glitter ponies, blocking my view of objects, bosses, whatever the case may be. Or duel requests/chat harassment, or superiority complex/elitist players being hostile/aggressive towards me, my friends, or guild mates. Thanks but no thanks, there are other mmos with that content, I’ll take the one that wants to be different.

CMM.6712:

Wetpaw.3487:

Sure Anet has done some unique things like the art style, combat, WvW (kinda), but I wouldn’t call a lack of content or the direction Anet has taken as “different” or that “outside of the box.”

No mounts, no dueling and the other wow stuff you want to try to alter the game with, are part of the reasons I play GW2 and do not play those other games. I like GW2 because it is different and their direction is not like other games, and doesn’t want or need to rely on content in other games. What you see as lacking I see as refreshing and continuance of precedence set in GW1 not having these types of content. That historical precedence and wanting/liking the differences between GW2 and other mmo’s are the reasons you get the dead horse pictures, merged threads, and the replies that are given in the multiple threads, generally with the same posters and the same circular arguments.

I like being able to share nodes, and to casually wander around without glitter ponies, blocking my view of objects, bosses, whatever the case may be. Or duel requests/chat harassment, or superiority complex/elitist players being hostile/aggressive towards me, my friends, or guild mates. Thanks but no thanks, there are other mmos with that content, I’ll take the one that wants to be different.

Thanks for sharing.

If Anet add/expands on their mount system (and other features dueling, housing, etc..) I will be all for it, more stuff the better, and if Anet doesn’t that’s fine too.

CMM.6712:

Wetpaw.3487:

Sure Anet has done some unique things like the art style, combat, WvW (kinda), but I wouldn’t call a lack of content or the direction Anet has taken as “different” or that “outside of the box.”

No mounts, no dueling and the other wow stuff you want to try to alter the game with, are part of the reasons I play GW2 and do not play those other games. I like GW2 because it is different and their direction is not like other games, and doesn’t want or need to rely on content in other games. What you see as lacking I see as refreshing and continuance of precedence set in GW1 not having these types of content. That historical precedence and wanting/liking the differences between GW2 and other mmo’s are the reasons you get the dead horse pictures, merged threads, and the replies that are given in the multiple threads, generally with the same posters and the same circular arguments.

I like being able to share nodes, and to casually wander around without glitter ponies, blocking my view of objects, bosses, whatever the case may be. Or duel requests/chat harassment, or superiority complex/elitist players being hostile/aggressive towards me, my friends, or guild mates. Thanks but no thanks, there are other mmos with that content, I’ll take the one that wants to be different.

So, does that also mean that GW2 shouldn’t have gear like WoW, shouldn’t have levels like WoW, and shouldn’t have classes like WoW? I suppose that we also shouldn’t have combat either, since that would also be like WoW.

Doesn’t seem that different to me. Even the whole Buy-To-Play thing is done by more than just Guildwars now.

Just a couple of questions to those who keep saying that mounts aren’t needed and go against established lore:

1. Are mini-pets needed?
2. Do mini-pets conform to established GW lore?

Why are people raging about how pointless and unnecessary mounts are, and yet have no problem with a tiny Rytlock that follows people around?

I mean…tiny versions of actual people in the world in which the game is set aren’t immersion breaking? Really?

To be honest, I despise all mini-pets that are versions of established characters, but I wouldn’t demand that all players cater to my wishes on the issue. If people want mounts, let them have them. Seriously.

minbariguy

1. Are mounts needed?
2. What is the point of mounts aside from, “I want them.” “They would be cool.” “Other games have them.”

To be honest, I despise mounts. Why should there be mounts in GW2? Seriously.

I want to see the current cosmetic ‘mounts’ (toys) we have in the gem store expanded on.
Id love to see a dolyak mount. enemies in GW1 rode them so they fit in the lore.

Is anyone seriously against the existing mounts we have in gem store e.g magic carpet, witches broom? I think they are a great compromise.

Flying mounts please! So I can do all those tricky vista’s really easily and actually finish a JP. Thanks for listening.

After playing WoW for a bit I don’t really see why people like mounts that much. I mean you move faster, and can fly, but they’re just kinda random, they don’t really fit in. I don’t really care if gw2 adds them, but if they do I want a random rainbow unicorn.

But yeah it generally seems pointless since it can kinda nullify JPs and Vistas, and we have a billion waypoints.

i dont realy think there is a need for mounts while we have many wp in any area and loading between zones , if they remove all wp from zones and only 1 for each zone then we would need mounts XD

Greyrebel.7492:

remove all wp from zones and only 1 for each zone

I think that’s a good idea! +1 x 1000! Except maybe 0 for each wilderness zone.

I believe waypoints were a tactical error. I believe waypoints have made Tyria feel small. And I believe Anet has the perfect opportunity at hand right now to affect the greatest, grandest, most mind-blowingly logical and constructive and overwhelmingly positive change ever wrought to any game in all of gaming history. That opportunity’s name is Mordremoth, and if that big lug does nothing else but destroy the waypoint system (in the process making its restoration prohibitively expensive and research-intensive), then he will go down in history as the savior of Tyria.

No more zip zapping one’s atoms willy nilly around countryside, ignoring the scenery and all the wonderful flora and fauna and the often breathtaking ambience Tyria has to offer. With the added bonus: suddenly, the world is immensely BIGGER. Want to get somewhere fast? Mount up!

Hyperbole aside, this is, in my most grandiosely expressed opinion, the way to go.

GW2 already has mounts.

There’s two types:

• Visual travel gizmos: They change how you look when moving, and are lost when entering combat. Examples of this are the drill, the flying carpet and the enchanted broom.
• Siege transformations: They entirely replace the character’s model and give a set of skills, but in lore you ‘ride’ them instead being transformed. Examples of this are siege golems.

After playing Heroes of the Storm, I think mounts working like that could fit GW2, since we already have movement visuals customizations.

• Out of combat bonus running speed would be replaced with mounting to get that speed again.
• It would be possible to set automatic mounting, so you don’t have to hit a mount button and mount as soon as you get out of combat.
• Mounts would have to be account-bound, and unlocked pretty early. Level 10 or so. After that all characters start with mounts unlocked and usable.
• “Mounts” could be anything. For example, there could be a “Flame Djinn’s Haste” mount that simply gives your feet a flaming effect and makes you leave flaming trails when you run. Even the Kites and the Balloon could be upgraded to unlockable as ‘mounts’ instead just bee mere toys. So “Out of combat speed boost customization” would be a closer name, but Mounts would still be used, since it’s shorter.
• There would have to be at least 2 starting mounts, and 3 that can be acquired for free, at least one of them from Personal Story (e.g: Pact Tank).
• The ‘starter’ mounts could be “Runing shoes” that have no visual and work just like the current out of combat speed boost, and a “bike” that looks different based on race. So people who doesn’t like them can just set the shoes and just run faster while out of combat just like now.
• Travel gizmos would be upgraded to mounts. Some gizmos would unlock the mount, like when using an outfit or everlasting finisher consumable, others would be unlcoked with a right click option, like the kites, so players can keep the kite and use it along other movement customizations that are compatible. After that the player can select the mount to be used automatically when out of combat… or not.

To put it simply, the only thing mounts could replace in GW2 is both out of combat speed boost and Travel gizmos. Not just one o them. Both together as one thing.

• Waypoints would not be removed.
• Mounted combat would never happen.
• Mounts would never actually fly, even if they simulate it.

Oh, and we would never have horses.

Charr ate all horses. The most similar thing we have are kirin, which are kind of horse-shaped dragoconic creatures, but for that we’ll need to go to Cantha first, and pray there’s any still alive and uncorrupted.

I guess closing a merged thread is not an option?

I feel like people just want to have something that’s called a “Mount” rather then flying carpet or broomstick.

Mount should be 100% speed (double normal warlking speed), so we don’t need to rely on a kitten skill slot all the time. Also, not every class has a signet and some are a bit annoying to keep up.

Flatley.1620:

Flying mounts please! So I can do all those tricky vista’s really easily and actually finish a JP. Thanks for listening.

NO

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but if they do I want a random rainbow unicorn.

NO
these 2 replies should be reason enough for closing the thread lol

ProtoGunner.4953:

Mount should be 100% speed (double normal warlking speed), so we don’t need to rely on a kitten skill slot all the time. Also, not every class has a signet and some are a bit annoying to keep up.

That is part of the game! Choose your build, skills, runes, and sigils wisely.

No, I want to have just a permanent speed boost on an animal – it’s very comfortable, especially in parts of the world without any waypoints or permanent contested waypoints.

I think the point why people are so much against mounts isn’t the typical lackluster arguments against it (WPs, signets, passive speed boosts, cluttering of screen etc.) it’s just be cause people are so kittening afraid of the WoWization of this game. So ridiculous, really. And they simply won’t admit it.

Guys. Stop asking that this thread be closed. If you had it that way we would go back to 1-2 Mount threads popping up on each forum page. Check in to this Merged thread from time to time, if you like, to skim through it and see if anything has changed. Otherwise just ignore it.

CMM.6712:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Mount should be 100% speed (double normal warlking speed), so we don’t need to rely on a kitten skill slot all the time. Also, not every class has a signet and some are a bit annoying to keep up.

That is part of the game! Choose your build, skills, runes, and sigils wisely.

Because we all love getting hamstrung in open world because of some illusion of PvP/WvW balance? :\ Nah.
It’s a case for open-world mounts, however mild. Thankfully, there’s waypoints, but that doesn’t mean sloughing from place to place while others merrily skip around is a fun thing.

Much the same, the whole reason I fell into banner warrior was because I can get 100% uptime on swiftness via warhorn. I like my banner warrior. :P It’s sort of a lemonade out of lemons situation.

ProtoGunner.4953:

No, I want to have just a permanent speed boost on an animal – it’s very comfortable, especially in parts of the world without any waypoints or permanent contested waypoints.

I think the point why people are so much against mounts isn’t the typical lackluster arguments against it (WPs, signets, passive speed boosts, cluttering of screen etc.) it’s just be cause people are so kittening afraid of the WoWization of this game. So ridiculous, really. And they simply won’t admit it.

It’s not ______ fear, its more like repulsion and distancing ones self. Something the wow refugees can’t seem to understand.

CMM.6712:

Flatley.1620:

Flying mounts please! So I can do all those tricky vista’s really easily and actually finish a JP. Thanks for listening.

NO

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but if they do I want a random rainbow unicorn.

NO
these 2 replies should be reason enough for closing the thread lol

Um, what I said was actually tongue in cheek stuff.

Flatley.1620:

Um, what I said was actually tongue in cheek stuff.

Ok, good! There is only so much cutesy one game can take lol

CMM.6712:

ProtoGunner.4953:

No, I want to have just a permanent speed boost on an animal – it’s very comfortable, especially in parts of the world without any waypoints or permanent contested waypoints.

I think the point why people are so much against mounts isn’t the typical lackluster arguments against it (WPs, signets, passive speed boosts, cluttering of screen etc.) it’s just be cause people are so kittening afraid of the WoWization of this game. So ridiculous, really. And they simply won’t admit it.

It’s not ______ fear, its more like repulsion and distancing ones self. Something the wow refugees can’t seem to understand.

I don’t get why you are against a simple convenience for everyone in the game. Oh something else: I started my MMO career with GW1 and not WoW – and played GW a lot more.

ProtoGunner.4953:

No, I want to have just a permanent speed boost on an animal – it’s very comfortable, especially in parts of the world without any waypoints or permanent contested waypoints.

I think the point why people are so much against mounts isn’t the typical lackluster arguments against it (WPs, signets, passive speed boosts, cluttering of screen etc.) it’s just be cause people are so kittening afraid of the WoWization of this game. So ridiculous, really. And they simply won’t admit it.

There actually needs to be a point to adding mounts. WoW has huge travel distance, this game, not so much.

If they add mounts, they should force having upkeep of them, food and maintenance, if you go away for more then a day you should have to pay an NPC to look after it or sell the mount.

You should have to pay for using them around the map, double what the waypoint costs because the mount would need food/fuel and rest during the journey.

If a player pays X gold and then lets the mount die they should face restrictions and additional costs when they try and aquire a new mount. Double cost and longer waits before getting a new mount for example.

Mounts act like the broom and that, cannot use skills or passive skills, no buffs/boosts in any way, no traits affect it. Takes time to get on and off, can take damage including death, can’t jump any higher then a player, being knocked off causes fall damage and a chance to receive trample damage.

You cannot sell a mount for more then 1/3 of the buy price.

Hello everyone!

I have just recently started Guild wars 2, and i’m playing as a lvl 26 human elementalist. I was just wondering, are there going to be mounts anytime soon in the game? :P I’ve always loved mounts, they bring chills down my spine _ And the only other MMO I have played is WoW in which mounts were showed off ever so often. It had always been cool seeing someone ride a dragon, some in game mob or something. Is there going to be any addition to mounts at all?
Just Wondering

Thanks,
Aditya

No, probably not. They weren’t in Guild Wars 1 and this game has waypoints so mounts aren’t needed.

Here is a thread about you can read: Mounts: and post in if you want.

If they implemented mounts, then wp system that worked for 2 years pretty good, would be useless. I guess you will have to get chills off flying carpet and broom.