Guild Wars 2

cargan.5689:

Chessrook.8643:

You guys DO realize that the daily changed, right? Now you need to kill 13 different creatures, revive 10 people, dodge 15 attacks, gather 20 resource, and do 5 events.

If I hear a single person complaining about having to REVIVE someone I’m shooting a unicorn up their $&@*.

Im fine with reviving people what i do plan to do is hunt down and spike every one i see in WvW with dreamer its the people shoting a unicorn up my $&@* i have a problem with

Well I play a Guardian and a Rifle Warrior anyway so I don’t use the Dreamer. That doesn’t mean I won’t borrow some random thief’s Dreamer, though…

Kakeru.2873:

For you Americans.

US servers rollover at the same time as EU servers.

Anchorwind.9016:

and yet when I stepped out into the world I saw more people than I usually do and received more rewards than I usually do. Both of those can’t be coincidence.

New patch has a way of doing that. It’ll die down again; just ask the panda lovers.

MHE Tiger.4875:

how many months would it take for you to equip each one of your characters with a legendary? Probably longer…but I don’t see anyone complaining about that

Not sure what to tell ya man

Legendaries have the same stats as exotics though and are purely cosmetic.
Ascended is a new gear tier that sits above exotic. I don’t think its unreasonable to expect that you should be able to earn and equip the gear on all of your characters, rather than be punished for taking the time to level and invest in multiple alts.

That being said I think it’s a bit early to complain. They’ve said numerous times that they’re going to be expanding the ways you can get ascended gear and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see that a bit later on in the year.

Coming Soon

Daily Reset Potion – 1 for 80 gems / 5 for 320 gems

Monthly Reset Potion – 250 gems

Called it here first.

For the record I don’t feel the same way as the OP, but I can see where this is going.

Yea I understand, its quite a grind. Are the amulets acc bound? or soulbound?

toxianguardian.4850:

I’m cool with grinding gear. I’m cool with gear treadmills. Because i can keep up with them.
What’s not okay is this laurel amulet stuff.
1 laurel a day? 35 a month roughly? Thats ONE AMULET anet.

That’s exactly why this laurel system is so great.

Grind is bad for a game. The gap between the majority of casual players and the minority of grinders is also bad for the game. When ArenaNet said, “we don’t want players to grind”, it was obvious that they were not catering to grinders. Laurels are perfect for this – a grinder is not going to get more laurels per day than a casual player, even if the grinder plays 10 hours per day and the casual plays a single hour per day.

This is working as intended, and for the records it’s a great design.

Gokai Red.1607:

Coming Soon

Daily Reset Potion – 1 for 80 gems / 5 for 320 gems

Monthly Reset Potion – 250 gems

Called it here first.

Riiiiight. I remember when people “called” the potions that would reset the dungeon DR system. Guess those potions didn’t get the call, did them?

If you are not dedicated enough to acquire ascended gear, you probably don’t deserve it from an achievement point of view. You only need ascended gear for high level fractals, and once you reach them, you’re going to have at least enough to get to a good level.

Erasculio.2914:

toxianguardian.4850:

I’m cool with grinding gear. I’m cool with gear treadmills. Because i can keep up with them.
What’s not okay is this laurel amulet stuff.
1 laurel a day? 35 a month roughly? Thats ONE AMULET anet.

That’s exactly why this laurel system is so great.

Grind is bad for a game. The gap between the majority of casual players and the minority of grinders is also bad for the game. When ArenaNet said, “we don’t want players to grind”, it wa obvious that they were not cattering to grinders. Laurels are perfect for this – a grinder is not going to get more laurels per day than a casual player, even if the grinder plays 10 hours per day and the casual players a single hour per day.

This is working as intended, and for the records it’s a great design.

Forcing EVERYONE to be a casual player is not great design.

Some of regard having to do dailies 35 times to get BiS gear as a grind. Not a big one but still a grind.

It’s the first day, we don’t know what other dailies they’ve added.

THEY are not ACCOUNT instead per caracter i just did my daily on caracter whic i dont care for just the finishing part on alt lvl 2 whic i dont even know will ill play and i cant transfer it to my caracter lvl 80 HOW STUPID THIS kitten IS CHANGE IT ASAP FOR LOVE OF GOD !!!!!!!

It’s cool man, it’s cool.

All is well.

Errant Venture.9371:

Forcing EVERYONE to be a casual player is not great design.

Not rewarding grinders more than casual players is a wonderful design. It’s the only way to make people not grind, which was ArenaNet’s goal – “we don’t want players to grind”, remember?

i back er(rant) (vent)ure here. make them soul bound. like karma or something. having them accountbound makes some people (like me) sad because then we cant have max stats on all our alts :/ makes me not want to play my alts. is this what this game encourages then i’m out.
sorry for the name jokes i couldn’t resist.

MHE Tiger.4875:

Gorwe.9672:

Don’t play broken games?

;)

Broken games?

The poster is implying that GW2 is a broken game.

Why do you need this ascended amulet so bad?

Rezing NPC count.

idk where you find the problem
10 revives you can probably make in 3 minutes in wvw

Because typing like this would totaly lead to people taking you serious.

Also if they didn’t make it account bound it would lead to people farming them on low level characters, also no one ever said they wouldn’t be account bound. All they said is they are avaible for now through monthly and daily achievements, wich geuss what? Are account bound.

Playing every single day for the amount of time it takes to do the daily is not “casual.” That’s a huge commitment.

Errant Venture.9371:

Forcing EVERYONE to be a casual player is not great design.

Neither is putting most end-game content and rewards out of reach of casual players, which is exactly what they’ve been doing repeatedly since launch. This isn’t any better, but at least now the kittens who say high-end rewards shouldn’t be available to casual players know how much it sucks, and maybe they’ll finally quit preaching their elitist bullcrap, but probably not.

I was fully prepared to enjoy some variety in dailies, among other aspects of the patch. However, I feel like they’ve really screwed the pooch with the dailies.

Combo Killer – already addressed, wasn’t working as intended.

Daily Crafter – bear in mind as I comment on this that I, personally, craft on a pretty regular basis. That said, I don’t agree with this being implemented, as it is forcing crafting onto some people that would rather not a) spend money on crafting, or b) spend any time on crafting. Regardless of the relative ease of completion, I simply don’t agree with this decision.

Daily Dodger – while I don’t have any great difficulties timing dodges, some players do. I don’t think a less-skilled player should be held back by a deficiency in reflexes or in reading mob animations.

Daily Healer – what this requirement does is encourage players not to help npc’s or other players stay on their feet. The extent to which this can influence players’ behavior remains to be seen, but already in one zone I played in tonight, players were yelling at people to let allies die so that they could get credit on this one.

I hope the requirements for the rest of the week are more thoroughly thought out than these seem to have been.

So yesterday you didnt even have this extra avenue to get items. You dont have to grind anything … just go back to the way you were playing before. Imagine they never gave you an alternative.

dude i can do all of them on one caracter and the final % i can do on my main and take the laurel so u just write kitten of kitten talk for nothing!!

Erasculio.2914:

Errant Venture.9371:

Forcing EVERYONE to be a casual player is not great design.

Not rewarding grinders more than casual players is a wonderful design. It’s the only way to make people not grind, which was ArenaNet’s goal – “we don’t want players to grind”, remember?

I thought the goal of the game was to let everyone play how they want, when they want? Punishing me for having alts doesn’t make the casual player’s life any better, and makes me very annoyed.

See, I really like the underwater kills. Very easy, and I love fighting under water. I’m always out there rescuing those poor drowned folks in Frostgorge.

What really needs to happen, and hopefully it’s still on their radar, is grab bag dailies. Here’s 20 things (or more) to pick from. Do 4.

Then I might pick underwater because I don’t have time to go find 15 different things to kill. Event, gather, total kills were easy. I didn’t care for the combo one, but I did it. Jury is out on the rezzing and dodging, as I haven’t had a chance to do that. I suspect I won’t like the dodging one. I suspect I’ll enjoy the rezzing one, especially since I try to do a CoJ at least once a day, and sometimes do some WvW. Lots of opportunities there.

So to each his own, but it’s why they really need a grab bag. The way Wintersday was handled with the achievement, and only having to do so many, and you could pick, was perfect. The only thing we need is more ‘clear’ variety. If we can get it to 4 and 3 are at least enjoyable and maybe 1 is ‘the lesser of all evils’, we’d be in a pretty good place.

It has nothing to do with the difficulty level of the dailies, it has to do with the tasks themselves…

Its the fact that “Revive X players” and “Dodge X attacks” are really unimaginative and DO NOT accomplish their stated goal to “drive players to different areas of the world and play together”.

Why do i need it? Seriously? Why do people need legendaries?

I’m not asking for an unfair playing field. Keep it the way it is, just let me do dailies on each of my characters so they can get their gear too.

To me, this is a no brainer.

I think the reason laurel prices are insane is because in the future you will obtain laurels from normal achievements like Jumping Puzzles. So it makes sense in the longterm.

They are new to making grindy games. Give them time and they’ll eventually get it down like WoW, where, if you are lucky, you can have a trinket in a night and the whole grind, fully-geared, PvP and PvE, can be measured in terms of what a piece or two in GW2 takes.

I do feel for you. I have 7 level 80’s and don’t intend on taking them on a treadmill ride. I’ll simply play at exotic levels until I no longer am able to.

After the daily reset, I went out of Lion’s Arch to start working on them and I noticed this one in particular. It said I needed to revive ten allies to complete this one and I didn’t think it was too difficult a task. But shortly after going around killing some stuff, I encountered someone in trouble with a few too many monsters and he went into the down state. I easily could have saved him but I stood by and waited because I remembered that I needed ten revives for my daily. I was not sure if it would count if he wasn’t fully incapacitated so I didn’t take any chances and stood by watching as he was struggling to rally until he died. I revived him afterward but I felt bad for letting him go down completely and taking some damage to his equipment. About a minute later, I disconnected and my daily progress was rolled back once more.

So now I’m just waiting for the game to be a little more stable to play because I was rolled back at least ten times while trying to finish the daily combo kills which I was unable to finish earlier. Has anyone tested if reviving someone from a down state counts for the daily or do I have to have a friend go down purposely ten times just to get this one done easily. I don’t know how well this one was thought through when they added this to the daily achievements. Some of new dailies do feel quite troublesome to bother with like the combo one which I spent a solid hour to finish but was unable to.

Rayya.2591:

idk where you find the problem
10 revives you can probably make in 3 minutes in wvw

The time required isn’t the issue. That’s perfectly fine.

The issue is that these were supposed to make people go out into the world. I don’t see that.

People are way to obsessed with gear when this game is more about skill and builds. They slowed the grind down and you can always get exotic rings and or an amulet and dodge ftw.

Link.4039:

Good god people need to stop complaining. Dailies are NOT required. If you want to do them, then go out and do it! God forbid you have to dodge 15 times or shoot threw a combo field 10 times. It’s seriously not that difficult, and adds some variety to the dailies.

EDIT: And daily healer? Come on people, that is a given. I easily revive at least 10 people a day already. See someone downed? Revive them. It’s a win-win situation.

Dailies became required when max-quality gear was attached to them, which by my reckoning was a few hours ago.

Oh admit it, you’re just an elitist who’s mad someone playing 1 hour a day will have access to the same gear as you.

edit: this post was originally in a thread in which OP was complaining about “calendar gating,” and that he couldn’t get the laurels for the amulet in a day.

And as an endless tonic collector… 100 days of play just to get the endless cat tonic. Seriously Anet? Why must you torture us? I’ve already given up on collecting all 3 of the endless mystery tonics since they have about a .1% drop rate (no lie) from blcs. It’s easier to get legendaries than these kittening tonics.

All fractal thing is made around “not” having alts at all.
You need to farm levels for it. Going from 1 to whatever (50 60 80 does not matter) is a lot of time. You want alt? Ok farm it once more, get gear once more, waste time once more.
I would probably have one main “ascended” guardian on fotm with maxed gear. Other alts will be geared to max 10 ar (with droped rings) to play with my guildies and help them with fotm leveling.

Simple solution that will please the maximum number of people: Implement sPvP gearing and leveling in WvW with free transmutes for PvE armor. Traditional MMO fans can grind ad infinitum in PvE in pursuit of progression. Players in favor of horizontal progression are probably more PvP inclined and can play all varieties of builds on par with everyone else without needing to grind first.

I’ve already done both dailies, easy, easy, easy… And fun

Errant Venture.9371:

I thought the goal of the game was to let everyone play how they want, when they want?

Nope. Again, when they say, “We don’t want players to grind” they are telling people that grinding won’t be a playstyle as supported in the game as casual play. That is for the betterment of the game, for the records.

Czar Peter.7961:

Simple solution that will please the maximum number of people: Implement sPvP gearing and leveling in WvW with free transmutes for PvE armor. Traditional MMO fans can grind ad infinitum in PvE in pursuit of progression. Players in favor of horizontal progression are probably more PvP inclined and can play all varieties of builds on par with everyone else without needing to grind first.

Traditional MMO fans, aka grinders, have half a dozen PvE MMOs to play already. GW2 is the only MMO close to something enjoyable for a PvE player who doesn’t like grind, aka isn’t deceived to become a donkey chasing a carrot.

Erasculio.2914:

Grind is bad for a game. The gap between the majority of casual players and the minority of grinders is also bad for the game. When ArenaNet said, “we don’t want players to grind”, it was obvious that they were not catering to grinders. Laurels are perfect for this – a grinder is not going to get more laurels per day than a casual player, even if the grinder plays 10 hours per day and the casual plays a single hour per day.

And the casuals who might play for 2-3 hours in a sitting, once per week?

Dailies are as much the realm of no-lifers as hardcore grinds are. Worse, because of how they’re usually structured, casuals are left with just one option to advance their character – run the daily each and every day.

Erasculio.2914:

Traditional MMO fans, aka grinders, have half a dozen PvE MMOs to play already. GW2 is the only MMO close to something enjoyable for a PvE player who doesn’t like grind, aka isn’t deceived to become a donkey chasing a carrot.

GW2 is marginally different until you’ve acquired a set of level 80 exotics. Then, it’s basically the same, except not quite as good as some of the more developed gear treadmills.

This game isn’t that casual friendly.

Blueshield.6291:

Dailies became required when max-quality gear was attached to them, which by my reckoning was a few hours ago.

Having BiS gear isn’t a requirement for any PvE content except high level fractals. Gearing up in max level gear isn’t supposed to be an afterthought like leveling to max level, or unlocking all of your skills. It’s a progression system that one can invest into and attain items that are marginally better without being game breaking. Some players want to play dress up with their gold/invested play time, and others(the majority of MMO players I reckon) are a sucker for elite gear. As long as certain hard to attain gear isn’t required to experience new content, gearing up to max is just a preference like farming for a nice skinned weapon.

I’ll be interested to see how these go, but I too really thought they’d be of the “Go to Gendarran and complete events” sort of dailies, not "dodge crap 15 times.

It’s kind of… anticlimactic. More directional dailies, bringing us to old zones, and making them so you only TRULY need to do 4 not all 5 would be grand.

This isn’t even considered a grind in my eyes. As someone who has came from FFXI, this isn’t kitten compared to it.

I am very pleased with the updates so far(aside from the few rollbacks and 7 11 errors)they are headed in the right direction..
Also I have many alts but I aint really bothered that I get 1 a day,plenty of other ways to get some nice thingies,aside from the new and interesting things laurels offer

And yes maybe in the future dailies could involve going to specific location where you have to do things and fight of the enemy of a race so they can send reinforcements to wvw

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Link-PvE-and-WvW-more-closely-together/first#post1301658

they sure just have laurel a drop item from champion or veteran mobs. Also, give it a chance to get one from jump puzzle. WvW people sure be able to get them from killing zerg as well.

That will be nice:)

As a Ranger I demand that all my pets get a dodge ability so that I can complete the dodge daily without having to turn my pet off. As it is, I have to put my pet on passive and get in close and tight with my shortbow.

I feel silly doing it. But some would say I should feel silly picking a ranger anyway. I dislike the new dailies.

Honestly, all the ones that involve other people or some form of teamwork take easily 4 times as long as the others, the combos was just…bad. But even the 10 revivals is pretty tough. 10 is a lot, 5 sounds more reasonable, I never come across dead people and npcs, and the only way I can get this one is to cheat and go to malchors leap everyday with the bridge event, it just doesn’t feel right.

This thead has a dev post icon on it but I can’t find a dev post in any of the pages, was it deleted?!

Vorch.2985:

I do agree with you there.

To be clear, I do love the variety they gave to dailies. However, they could have had more people in zones simply by adding “in area X” to the end of each requirement, or AT LEAST a few of them:

• Gather 20 materials in Kessex Hills
• Kill 13 types of enemies in Iron Marches
• Do 5 Events in Sparkflyfen

A good update to dailies, but I was expecting a reason to go to specific zones. Hopefully they take that to heart.

Concern: I have been doing my daily in Caledon/Metrica (basically, in the beginning in the zones) and getting the rest of kill variety in Gendarran… and I like it. It’s easy, it’s close enough… It’s been really familiar. Comfortable. Me = happy. So far it seems I don’t have to change my habit. I like that.
I absolutely would not want to do a portion of a daily on a higher level character if I want to play a lowbie, and I am very selective about where I want each character to go (concerning starting cities/maps). And I don’t want to wander to any far off places I have no interest going that day…
So I would want to vote NO in here.