Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.
People with mult 80s kittened by Laurel limit
The problem is ascended gear needs more sources.
If it becomes character bound those of us who only have time to do dailies on one character a day are boned.
I am sure they will add more sources…but for now EVERYONE is on a equal playing ground…this is a good thing.
They did it to slow the gear grind down. They want gear progression to go up as the game gets older, rather than have you grind out all your max gear in a week, then have no more gear-oriented goals. Also it’s 30 laurels per amulet, and you get 10 from monthlies, so it’s not THAT bad.
While I don’t want multiple dailies (shiver) i do think that the laurel system is alt unfriendly. To get amulets for each of my alts it will take 180 laurels. Assuming you get 40 laurels every 30 days, it will take 4-5 months. That’s not terrible, but it’s not great either.
And no I don’t want everything NOW, kitten lazy entitled whatever else some troll is going to post.
I’ve just got to say, as someone with over 700 hours in the game, I could never handle more than one level 80. To have 6 level 80’s, you have got to be willing to do a LOT of work to maintain all of them. You give yourself an incredibly difficult challenge, and then complain that the game makes it too hard for you to keep up. Well duh, of course! If you guys can’t handle the amount of work it takes to gear up 5+ characters, then DON’T!
Curo Lunesque – “Concerned Citizen and Community Builder”
NSP – northernshiverpeaks.org
NSP – northernshiverpeaks.org
I have 4 level 80’s with three more around 40ish. I don’t have a problem with laurels and how to acquire them being account bound, and I certainly don’t feel ‘kittened’ by it.
The problem is that there’s an achievement leaderboard, which some people seem to care about, and if you made it this way, everyone with a ton of alts and some time would easily be able to top the leaderboard.
I wouldn’t actually mind if the change was made, but the problem here is that dailies were always able to be done on any character, so if I played one, I’d get my daily and if I played a different one I’d STILL be working on the same daily.
What you’re essentially asking is for a complete rewrite of the rules. People are already complaining (in other threads) about the pressure from feeling they have to do the daily. How do you think they’ll respond when they feel they have to do four or five of them.
While this change would work for some people (those who have multiple characters and those who have the time to regularly do multiple dailies) I think it would work against the bulk of the population…so it’s a change that will never happen.
In fact, the whole purpose of making dailies the way they were was so casuals COULD catch up. I mean if you don’t have a ton of time to do dailies now, you only have to do 30 dailies to get an ascended amulet. Less if you do a monthly.
Changing this would give a huge advantage to people with lots of free time. It negates the whole reason for the cap in the first place.
You really ruin the experience of the forums by posting in every thread you disagree to with a condescending “My way is right everything else is flawed logic and therefore a hyperbole.”
I think your English talents are better served writing a book instead of posting on the forums 24/7.I’ve written quite a few books, thanks for suggestion though. I didn’t call this suggestion hyperbole either, so why you’d bring that specifically up, I have no idea.
I’m allowed to disagree with people on a forum. Why people should say I ruin the forum by disagreeing, I don’t understand. I didn’t suggest the OP ruined the forum by posting what he posted. I think the OPs post is quite reasonable, compared to many of the threads I post in. I never suggested the OP was unreasonable or used hyperbole.
I do suggest, however that the OPs suggestion will have a negative affect on part of the playerbase. I’m really sorry that that ruins your experience of the forums.
If disagreements are hard for you to deal with and they ruin your experience, perhaps you should take up something less stressful.
This brings chronic pain to me and I have trouble sleeping at night.
Sounds like a personal problem.
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Honestly, you should be able to complete your daily by doing whatever you want, no matter what it is..not even choosing from a list(which isnt entirely bad either). Out in the world mining nodes? Out in the world killing things? Out in the world discovering places and map completing?
The XP you earn, from crafting, from materials gathering, from exploring, from dynamic events, from dungeoning, etc…that should determine if you get your laurel for the day.
Set it at something like 5000 XP or something…Complete two or three dynamic events, and youre done. Farm a specific monster for a specific material for an hour, you’ll probably be done…takes longer but thats what you want to do! Craft all night? Probably be done in no time. Simply playing the game you’re way, the way it was intended…not checking off items on a list.
Karma is as abundant as air, and as useless as the Kardashians.
They did it to slow the gear grind down. They want gear progression to go up as the game gets older, rather than have you grind out all your max gear in a week, then have no more gear-oriented goals. Also it’s 30 laurels per amulet, and you get 10 from monthlies, so it’s not THAT bad.
While I don’t want multiple dailies (shiver) i do think that the laurel system is alt unfriendly. To get amulets for each of my alts it will take 180 laurels. Assuming you get 40 laurels every 30 days, it will take 4-5 months. That’s not terrible, but it’s not great either.
And no I don’t want everything NOW, kitten lazy entitled whatever else some troll is going to post.
I’ve just got to say, as someone with over 700 hours in the game, I could never handle more than one level 80. To have 6 level 80’s, you have got to be willing to do a LOT of work to maintain all of them. You give yourself an incredibly difficult challenge, and then complain that the game makes it too hard for you to keep up. Well duh, of course! If you guys can’t handle the amount of work it takes to gear up 5+ characters, then DON’T!
Mate, they wont die if you don’t feed them!
If he sticks with his 6 80s and continually plays at his own pace and in his own way for the next two years then there is a good chance that he will better off than someone who stuck to just one 80. Or maybe not. But we don’t know what Anet will introduce into the game later.
And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. In my opinion the only thing alt-unfriendly is storage.
Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!
Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?
Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?
They probably want to prevent people from logging on just to do the daily 5 times and log off again, cause that would not be considered fun, but for people with 5 characters (like the OP) it would feel mandatory.
So instead people log on to do it on 1 character then log off.
Jade Quarry [SoX]
Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
i have 8 80’s all with world complete
each ones parked at a event
to quote hoyvin
. I don’t have a problem with laurels and how to acquire them being account bound, and I certainly don’t feel ‘kittened’ by it.
the quote sums up my feelings on it
There needs to be more ways to get ascended gear, not any change to the daily system. Changing the daily system would kitten more people off than it would aid.
There needs to be more ways to get ascended gear, not any change to the daily system. Changing the daily system would kitten more people off than it would aid.
Why would it?
Jade Quarry [SoX]
Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
They did it to slow the gear grind down. They want gear progression to go up as the game gets older, rather than have you grind out all your max gear in a week, then have no more gear-oriented goals. Also it’s 30 laurels per amulet, and you get 10 from monthlies, so it’s not THAT bad.
While I don’t want multiple dailies (shiver) i do think that the laurel system is alt unfriendly. To get amulets for each of my alts it will take 180 laurels. Assuming you get 40 laurels every 30 days, it will take 4-5 months. That’s not terrible, but it’s not great either.
And no I don’t want everything NOW, kitten lazy entitled whatever else some troll is going to post.
I’ve just got to say, as someone with over 700 hours in the game, I could never handle more than one level 80. To have 6 level 80’s, you have got to be willing to do a LOT of work to maintain all of them. You give yourself an incredibly difficult challenge, and then complain that the game makes it too hard for you to keep up. Well duh, of course! If you guys can’t handle the amount of work it takes to gear up 5+ characters, then DON’T!
Mate, they wont die if you don’t feed them!
If he sticks with his 6 80s and continually plays at his own pace and in his own way for the next two years then there is a good chance that he will better off than someone who stuck to just one 80. Or maybe not. But we don’t know what Anet will introduce into the game later.
And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. In my opinion the only thing alt-unfriendly is storage.
My point exactly, “mate”. It’s a long term investment. Yet the OP wants immediate satisfaction when using a long term strategy. I’m fine with it taking 2 years, he isn’t.
Curo Lunesque – “Concerned Citizen and Community Builder”
NSP – northernshiverpeaks.org
NSP – northernshiverpeaks.org
They did it to slow the gear grind down. They want gear progression to go up as the game gets older, rather than have you grind out all your max gear in a week, then have no more gear-oriented goals. Also it’s 30 laurels per amulet, and you get 10 from monthlies, so it’s not THAT bad.
While I don’t want multiple dailies (shiver) i do think that the laurel system is alt unfriendly. To get amulets for each of my alts it will take 180 laurels. Assuming you get 40 laurels every 30 days, it will take 4-5 months. That’s not terrible, but it’s not great either.
And no I don’t want everything NOW, kitten lazy entitled whatever else some troll is going to post.
I’ve just got to say, as someone with over 700 hours in the game, I could never handle more than one level 80. To have 6 level 80’s, you have got to be willing to do a LOT of work to maintain all of them. You give yourself an incredibly difficult challenge, and then complain that the game makes it too hard for you to keep up. Well duh, of course! If you guys can’t handle the amount of work it takes to gear up 5+ characters, then DON’T!
Mate, they wont die if you don’t feed them!
If he sticks with his 6 80s and continually plays at his own pace and in his own way for the next two years then there is a good chance that he will better off than someone who stuck to just one 80. Or maybe not. But we don’t know what Anet will introduce into the game later.
And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. In my opinion the only thing alt-unfriendly is storage.
My point exactly, “mate”. It’s a long term investment. Yet the OP wants immediate satisfaction when using a long term strategy. I’m fine with it taking 2 years, he isn’t.
Ah, I see. I took it the other way around.
Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!
Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?
Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?
The laurels are just a system that favors single character players. Character bound dailies, like jumping puzzle chests, favor multi character players. That is it.
I think this is more of I want to do something once and get lots of rewards for all of my alts.
If you could unlock / buy account bound cosmetic items, that would rock. Is pay triple the price if the laurel rewards were account bound.
Doing daily 8 times a day for all alts would be time consuming.
It’s controls the achievement poiints … If they start to offer rewards for achievement point… Then it might get abused. Anet would have to stop the jugs of karma, money and extra achievement points on.alts..
Now you can get around 40 laurels a month. Multiplied by the number of alts…. Would that be good for the economy to add the laurel rewards on the market?
The system could change a bit, add rewards for those with multi characters but… I don’t think its should be made character bound.
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There needs to be more ways to get ascended gear, not any change to the daily system. Changing the daily system would kitten more people off than it would aid.
Why would it?
Because it would give people with tons of time the ability to get stuff a lot faster than people who can’t live in game. And that means that you’d have to devote your life to the game to be competitive, particularly in WvW. If you don’t think people will complain about it, you’d be wrong,
Other people would complain because they feel forced to do the daily on every character every day. There are already people complaining about the daily as it stands.
One thing Anet didn’t want was that people who didn’t have a lot of time would fall so far behind. That was the point of making it so you couldn’t earn guild commendations or daily rewards faster than anyone else.
This change would completely undermine the purpose of how they made it in the first place.
I have missed dailies like the last 6 or so days, and I have a few alts. It’s OK, we don’t really even need the Ascended gear, much less the cute cat. When life is difficult and you can’t really play that much, GW2 is a great game because it punishes no one for not being able “to catch up” (there’s no one to catch, unless you place that burden on yourself-the game never forces you-therefore, it’s OK if your 16 level 80 alts don’t have full Ascended trinkets in two months, no offense meant.)
@Curo
Wasn’t meaning to complain (I did say it wasn’t bad). I was Just talking about facts. Having alts is definitely a self-inflicted injury.
If only I could pick one… Oops got to go. Just saw something shiny.
Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.
So you should get Free laurels across all your characters ? What…….? Why are you people asking for these ridiculous things.First of all,you made the choise of creating multiple characters,kowing they require more work than to handle only one character.Knowing this,you should have also known about the possibility that you need to farm everything multiple times,sine you have multiple characters.Now youre basically asking anet.Give me free items because i have multiple characters.Its unfair,and on top of all a pretty kitten selfish thing to ask.
Who asked for that? I don’t think anyone has.
Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.
I dont agree, i have no problem with dailies being account bound. In fact i really like it, takes the pressure off to do it many times and allows my alt to be played and not lose out.
But i did disagree, and still do, with laurels as a currency at all, should have just stuck with karma, i dislike gated currencies, and gear gates on content, even though i dont actually run fotm myself, the concept of gear gates annoys me.
Let’s do the retroactive laurel achievement thing, then wait for people to complain about how new players are getting shafted.
Don’t disturb me, I have a cat in me at the moment.
Because it would give people with tons of time the ability to get stuff a lot faster than people who can’t live in game.
Not per character.
And yes people would complain if it was changed, people complain about everything.
Jade Quarry [SoX]
Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
Because it would give people with tons of time the ability to get stuff a lot faster than people who can’t live in game.
Not per character.
And yes people would complain if it was changed, people complain about everything.
So you’re saying seperate the laural currency so only one character gets it? Because that’s what they’d have to do. The way it stands now, they’d not only have to make dailies character bound, but laurels character bound.
If they didn’t people would farm dailies on every alt to get more laurels to get stuff faster. I’m not sure I want to see laurels character bound, either.
Because it would give people with tons of time the ability to get stuff a lot faster than people who can’t live in game.
Not per character.
And yes people would complain if it was changed, people complain about everything.
So you’re saying seperate the laural currency so only one character gets it? Because that’s what they’d have to do. The way it stands now, they’d not only have to make dailies character bound, but laurels character bound.
If they didn’t people would farm dailies on every alt to get more laurels to get stuff faster. I’m not sure I want to see laurels character bound, either.
This may be the first time I 100% agree with you.
Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.
Because it would give people with tons of time the ability to get stuff a lot faster than people who can’t live in game.
Not per character.
And yes people would complain if it was changed, people complain about everything.
So you’re saying seperate the laural currency so only one character gets it? Because that’s what they’d have to do. The way it stands now, they’d not only have to make dailies character bound, but laurels character bound.
If they didn’t people would farm dailies on every alt to get more laurels to get stuff faster. I’m not sure I want to see laurels character bound, either.
This may be the first time I 100% agree with you.
Why do I feel like I should apologize for this? lol
Yeah, as i have 7 level 80s this really sucks kitten
Basically I’m picking 3 characters that i like most and just gearing those up… the rest will just have to wait.
80 Necro (5), 80 Guard (4), 80 Mesmer (3)
80 Ranger (3), 80 Warrior (3), 80 Thief (3)
80 Ele (2), 80 Engi (3), 80 Rev (2)
80 Ranger (3), 80 Warrior (3), 80 Thief (3)
80 Ele (2), 80 Engi (3), 80 Rev (2)
Honestly, you should be able to complete your daily by doing whatever you want, no matter what it is..not even choosing from a list(which isnt entirely bad either). Out in the world mining nodes? Out in the world killing things? Out in the world discovering places and map completing?
The XP you earn, from crafting, from materials gathering, from exploring, from dynamic events, from dungeoning, etc…that should determine if you get your laurel for the day.
Set it at something like 5000 XP or something…Complete two or three dynamic events, and youre done. Farm a specific monster for a specific material for an hour, you’ll probably be done…takes longer but thats what you want to do! Craft all night? Probably be done in no time. Simply playing the game you’re way, the way it was intended…not checking off items on a list.
It’s already super easy to do, how much easier do you want it?
Elyl Jrend
Yeah, as i have 7 level 80s this really sucks kitten
Basically I’m picking 3 characters that i like most and just gearing those up… the rest will just have to wait.
7 alts? god why bother? Alts are kind of a waste of time.
Elyl Jrend
Yeah, as i have 7 level 80s this really sucks kitten
Basically I’m picking 3 characters that i like most and just gearing those up… the rest will just have to wait.
7 alts? god why bother? Alts are kind of a waste of time.
Why are alts any more a waste of time than playing WvW, or SPvP, or running dungeons?
The best part is when, upon being able to infuse amulets, everyone will have to repurchase their utility infusion for 20 laurels.
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wonder if a dungeon dev team
ever existed in the first place.” – Siv
wonder if a dungeon dev team
ever existed in the first place.” – Siv
Yeah, as i have 7 level 80s this really sucks kitten
Basically I’m picking 3 characters that i like most and just gearing those up… the rest will just have to wait.
7 alts? god why bother? Alts are kind of a waste of time.
Alts are such a waste of time, much the same as playing multiple games when you could just pick one and stick with it. It’s a lot like picking different weapon loadouts and useful kits in fps games, such a waste of time.
Oh wait, it isn’t. It’s called having a bit of diversity while you play. Some people get more satisfaction when they have more to do and different ways to do it.
By your logic it’s a waste of time for me to play Kerbal Space Program and Guild Wars 2 when I could just pick one of them. Alts are no more a waste of time than just playing the game on one character. Time spent doing what you enjoy is time well spent.
Yeah, as i have 7 level 80s this really sucks kitten
Basically I’m picking 3 characters that i like most and just gearing those up… the rest will just have to wait.
7 alts? god why bother? Alts are kind of a waste of time.
Why are alts any more a waste of time than playing WvW, or SPvP, or running dungeons?
Exactly!
I personally have about 800 hours across all characters and 4 are 80, 3 are above 40 by now. I love doing different things on different characters and in different ways. I personally hate WvW though but I wouldn’t tell someone that loves it that it’s a waste of their time.
I didn’t like the idea of Ascended gear but I’ve since accepted it. Now I have 4 lvl 80 characters and two wearing amulets(1 amulet is in storage). That’s all the ascended gear I have so far. Not bad, not great, but okay.
Now the Ranger needs a different build after the quickness nerf. Bezerker gear isn’t going to work. But my new necro could use a little bit of zerker to balance her out. Too bad because that ascended piece is soulbound to the Ranger. It’s why I got a celestial on my Guardian and recently bought another for the Ranger.
Idea: Instead of allowing us to get more laurels, which would be nice. (especially the promise of achievement points →laurels)
Maybe they could change the ascended trinkets into account bound items that our alt characters can re-use. Especially as they continue to balance the game and possibly cause the build we run to be inefficient, in a future patch.
Blackgate : Level 80 Ranger, Necro, Guardian, Warrior
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1. Significant gear is soulbound.
2. Dailies are per account.
3. Monthlies are per account.
4. Laurels are per account.
5. Guild commendations are per account.
6. WXP is per character.
7. Expensive shop items like molten picks are soulbound.
8. Dyes were going to be account wide, but became character specific unlocks before launch.
It’s pretty clear that ANet has no interest in helping out people who play alts. They are counting on people playing alts and either playing longer because of the time it takes to get them geared up or spending in the gem shop to speed the process on subsequent toons.
Many things about the game encourage picking one character and sticking to it.
I love a lot of things about the game, but this is one of the things that is disappointing.
With 5 level 80s so far and some more on the way I understand where the OP is coming from. My suggestion is to make some of these rewards such as laurels shared across the account but with restrictions.
1) Laurels earned by one character are also earned by alts on the account but only alts that are max level. If my level 80 earned his laurel per day any other level 80 on my account would also get that laurel yet that laurel the alt gets is his only to spend. By restricting it to level 80 for sharing in this manner you also prevent overpowering low level alts. All level 80s therefore would be able to upgrade at the same pace yet not any faster then people with only 1 character.
2) Have dyes shared in the same manner. Only the level 80’s on the account get to share the dye pool. All dyes found by each character are placed into a common pool once they reach level 80 and any level 80 has access to this pool.
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