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Yes, but I want to be absolutely clear about what is, and is not allowed. I’m not looking for a ‘personal’ group, I’m looking for a large group of players for something I may or may not be coordinating.

Crell.6401:

Yes, but I want to be absolutely clear about what is, and is not allowed. I’m not looking for a ‘personal’ group, I’m looking for a large group of players for something I may or may not be coordinating.

You are looking for a group to do content with. Which is what the LFG is for. Finding a group to do content with.

Could really do with some clarification on using the LFG to advertise for these particular circumstances:

-Player X Selling Portals to Golden Badges etc in the Silverwastes (and thus achievements)
-Player Y Selling spots in their party to complete Story Achievements
-Player Z Selling Portals to particular Jumping Puzzles
-All of the above when money isn’t involved (from what I understand it’s the act of advertising “non-group” activity rather than actually selling it that’s the problem, but I could be wrong)

If all/some of the above count as infractions, where does that leave dungeon selling?

I think it can be simplified like this:

“If you are not going to do stuff together for at least a some minutes, then you should not use the LFG tool for it.”

So, someone looking for people to help them do Goemm’s Lab or The Long Run would be allowed since they’ll have to be together between checkpoints, but someone just sitting next to the chest on Skipping Stones and cashing in from portals would not be allowed.

I put up a lfg to sell a dusk for 1100g upfront and someone came in and said they reported me. So I checked the TOS to see if they were just salty or what and there was nothing on the official TOS that said anything about it. Later another guy who referred me here just said I should look up the new rules. I stopped and borrowed money for the listing fees from someone I know to put it up for sale. This is the only time I even sold something on the lfg, I was too poor to afford the listing fee. Also tons of other people were doing that I saw in the past.

Am I going to get an infraction since this rule is completely fresh, or is it cool? Also what kind of person goes around reporting people that doesn’t even concern them at all. The dude comes in like he had authority and reported me. What a loser..

Edit: Also I asked “Pinjin” a developer ingame about it and she/he said it was fine as long as it was ingame currency, and then I learned there was a new rule, so not even everyone who works at Anet knows about this rule yet.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Seka.5647:

What about selling access to ones home instance for gathering resources? Namely I just spotted this new type of selling in lfg just about an hour ago : " Sell access crafting nodes (17) for 20 silver…..->" . Does it belong to the dungeon sort of selling section or is it abusing the lfg due to selling access to “items”?

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

Hi, Gray. I’m attempting to explain this new policy to players where I live (English is not our first language) on forum, but still have a few questions needs to clarify.
1. Selling dungeon slots. I know you’ve meant it is legit, unfortunately people keep arguing with me since they may (or I may) misunderstand your statement.
2. Offering a free portal for JPs, diving spot, etc, and add something like “tips appreciated”.

Again, we’re willing to see some complementary and simply announcement about these. Thank you for doing this.

LFG trading is a recent development? I just came back after not playing for about a year and a half. LFG trading/advertising isn’t new or shocking. I’m not advocating it…just saying.

^^^ No one said it was a recent development. However, it was becoming more predominate over the last few months. Now we know it is a violation that should clean it up.

ZanchinFissure.7981:

I put up a lfg to sell a dusk for 1100g upfront and someone came in and said they reported me.

Next time put that you’re selling 1 spot for <insert group content>, 1100g.

* Free dusk included.

ZanchinFissure.7981:

Also what kind of person goes around reporting people that doesn’t even concern them at all. The dude comes in like he had authority and reported me. What a loser..

Well, anyone can report anyone if they see any violation, they don’t need to be directly involved. That’s what Report tool is for and why it’s available through several places. And where would be the reporter’s anonymity if they need to involve in order to report an abuse?

MithranArkanere.8957:

So, someone looking for people to help them do Goemm’s Lab or The Long Run would be allowed since they’ll have to be together between checkpoints, but someone just sitting next to the chest on Skipping Stones and cashing in from portals would not be allowed.

Not intending to bring a discussion but I wish some clarification.. wouldn’t the last be similar to some who sell spots in dungeons too? I can’t get the idea of selling spots where you just kill the boss and grab chest as allowed. If it was to do the whole or part of the run I would understand, as it would be like doing some content.

Oh and thanks Gray for all clarification.

What is now clear for us but not for a couple of posters here: don’t sell items via LFG system. Directly or indirectly. And I would like to continue: use TP only to sell items – then there is no need to advertize, and you’re doing it anonymously as well.

Like in real world, exchange fees and taxes are for some a pain, for some obscure reason.

ZanchinFissure.7981:

I put up a lfg to sell a dusk for 1100g upfront and someone came in and said they reported me. So I checked the TOS to see if they were just salty or what and there was nothing on the official TOS that said anything about it. Later another guy who referred me here just said I should look up the new rules. I stopped and borrowed money for the listing fees from someone I know to put it up for sale. This is the only time I even sold something on the lfg, I was too poor to afford the listing fee. Also tons of other people were doing that I saw in the past.

Am I going to get an infraction since this rule is completely fresh, or is it cool? Also what kind of person goes around reporting people that doesn’t even concern them at all. The dude comes in like he had authority and reported me. What a loser..

Edit: Also I asked “Pinjin” a developer ingame about it and she/he said it was fine as long as it was ingame currency, and then I learned there was a new rule, so not even everyone who works at Anet knows about this rule yet.

I also got a troll happily joining a party just to say he reported me for LFG abuse (I was about to trade PvP Arena Tokens, which by natural reasons cannot be put on the Trading Post). I reported him back for the same reason – joining to split the party up and force excessive messaging, which basically is manipulation of the LFG system in order to mess it up for others.

I later found this thread, and there is nowhere in the User Rules of Conduct or User Agreement stated exactly how LFG should be used (the word “LFG” or sentence “Looking For Group” isn’t even mentioned in any of those), or that we frequently have to check the forums (!) to keep ourselves updated about unwritten changes of the Agreement. All I can relate to it is point 9 in the Rules of Conduct, but dungeons are also game content which therefore shouldn’t be allowed to be traded either.

Scams are also a dull point. I’m definitely ready to bet some bucks that there are way more dungeon scammers than item scammers in the LFG system. And if getting scammed, I cannot use the LFG to warn other people, since I’m not LFG:ing to find a physical group for a specific activity.

Well, LFG tool didn’t exist when that Agreement was created and when the most of us accepted it by creating accounts. I agree it should be updated and then announced about the changes when they occurs. Also yes, I can’t understand why selling dungeon spots is allowed, it doesn’t feel fair for me. Players don’t “own” dungeons then they can’t “sell” what isn’t theirs. LFG is meant to be used to gather groups TO DO content, NOT TO SELL content.

They’re selling the spots in the group, not the dungeons.

shadow.6174:

Well, LFG tool didn’t exist when that Agreement was created and when the most of us accepted it by creating accounts. I agree it should be updated and then announced about the changes when they occurs. Also yes, I can’t understand why selling dungeon spots is allowed, it doesn’t feel fair for me. Players don’t “own” dungeons then they can’t “sell” what isn’t theirs. LFG is meant to be used to gather groups TO DO content, NOT TO SELL content.

They are selling a spot in a group to do content. The content they do just doesn’t last very long (they can’t give rewards to other players if they join in after the last boss is dead). They aren’t selling content. They are selling a service but not requiring you to be present in the instance while they run the dungeon.

Ok my mistake, maybe I didn’t express myself properly. Anyhow, for some reason it doesn’t feel fair for me when I see those. But well, if there are those willing to pay, there may be those wanting to sell. *shrugs*

why is player to player trading considered bad? I thought that was a part of MMos

Redxon.6832:

why is player to player trading considered bad? I thought that was a part of MMos

Player trading isn’t that bad, but using the wrong tool for it that’s what is the problem.

Redxon.6832:

why is player to player trading considered bad? I thought that was a part of MMos

Arena-net designed the Trading Post to replace player-to-player trading for the most part.

Player-to-player trading isn’t against the game rules, but there is no insurance that you will safely receive your item or money, meaning you’re open to scammers. Sure, you can report scammers, but you won’t get your item or money back.

The TP is much more of an effective trading tool than player-to-player trading will ever be.
-You can sell an item from anywhere. A few clicks and your item is cleared from your inventory.
-You can easily buy/sell multiple items and different kinds of items almost instantly.
-You don’t need to spend time advertising your item or waiting around for a player to respond.
-This means no chat will be spammed up with WTB/WTS chat.
-There is no way to be scammed through TP.
-The TP Tax is vital to the economy and greatly reduces inflation. If there was no % tax, then a player with an (uncommon) item could price it at whatever he/she likes because he/she isn’t limited to the amount of money in their inventory.

Meanwhile, player-to-player trading benefits are:
-You get to avoid the 15% TP tax.

Redxon.6832:

why is player to player trading considered bad? I thought that was a part of MMos

Players are allowed to trade, they just aren’t allowed to use the LFG as a form of free advertising. The LFG is specifically designed for players to find other players for Dungeons, Story Instances, and Open World Content. It would be the equivalent of going onto a dating site and trying to sell a TV. While nothing is wrong with selling the TV, the dating site should and will take down your advertisement.

So I tried to get this clarified by Gaile but she asked me to post my question I asked her on the forums so here it goes:
I have a question that I would very much appreciate if it was clarified. My question is, if someone using the LFG system advertises for players to join to have access to there home instance be considered an infraction? From my understanding and a few other people I have read on the forum about this it seems that the action of selling your home instance is the infraction. So as I see it, and this is where I would like the clarification, that just advertising for more “group members” to join and have access to said persons home instance would not be considered a breach because they are not “Selling”.

Odd she would ask you to post this here as this is a direct answer to the question of home instance advertising from Gaile in this same thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Policy-on-the-LFG-Tool/first#post4771535

Gaile Gray.6029:

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

I have to ask, what would be the purpose of advertising on the LFG tool access to your home instance for random strangers if you are not intending to benefit from it in some sort of trade? It seems to me like you are looking for a loophole.

Captnrandm.5986:

So I tried to get this clarified by Gaile but she asked me to post my question I asked her on the forums so here it goes:
I have a question that I would very much appreciate if it was clarified. My question is, if someone using the LFG system advertises for players to join to have access to there home instance be considered an infraction? From my understanding and a few other people I have read on the forum about this it seems that the action of selling your home instance is the infraction. So as I see it, and this is where I would like the clarification, that just advertising for more “group members” to join and have access to said persons home instance would not be considered a breach because they are not “Selling”.

Gaile Gray.6029:

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.

This should be clear enough. Advertising a portal (to a home instance node) is not allowed. It doesn’t matter if the home instance owner is selling or not, it’s the advertising that isn’t accepted.

JustTrogdor.7892:

Odd she would ask you to post this here as this is a direct answer to the question of home instance advertising from Gaile in this same thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Policy-on-the-LFG-Tool/first#post4771535

Gaile Gray.6029:

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

I have to ask, what would be the purpose of advertising on the LFG tool access to your home instance for random strangers if you are not intending to benefit from it in some sort of trade? It seems to me like you are looking for a loophole.

You are assuming I am looking for a loophole but I like to help people by providing ways of helping them with either things they do not normally have access to or by helping them achieve that. This is called kindness and that seems to be lost by allot of people.

Captnrandm, you are welcome to offer your help by forming a party to access your home instance.. You just can’t do so by using the LFG tool as shown by Gaile’s post on the issue.

I guess I am just very bent out of shape about the whole selling any type of instance and that includes dungeons. I think it is very counter productive and provides no real benefit other than the ones that are selling which is very one sided and not good for people willing to do those same paths. As a note I do solo Arah paths and create a group without selling the spots. I just believe that is wrong.

It’s nice that you are such a helpful player. I try to be a helpful player myself even though my responses to you are not indicative of that. I’m just a bit skeptical at times when I see such questions from people as I often see people that are trying to find a workaround to the rules. So if your intentions were indeed pure I apologize.

Perhaps if you have an issue with dungeon selling and think that it should also not be allowed in the LFG tool you should start a thread about it in the main forum. Maybe a forum specialist will catch your thread and include it in their report.

Ty for the feedback JustTrogdor I will take your suggestion and hopefully resolve this as I see it issue.

This rule is unbelievably unfair and comes off by trying to fix an “issue” lazily by making 2nd rate rules to cover up their own shortcomings in the TOS. I create groups to share my home instance for free and NEVER ask for tips so people don’t feel obliged or awkward at the end like most people try to make them feel when they say right away, “Tips Appreciated”. I spent over a thousand gold and want to share it with people out of my own volition and generosity and then I’m made out to be like someone who’s breaking the rules. Anet claims to be all about the friendly atmosphere and it’s coop community but then makes a rule like this.

Me making a group to share my home instance isn’t advertising as much as making a group to farm silverwastes which has nothing to do with the living world missions and holds a whole map hostage from people who want to do the event. How about the people who “advertise” them SELLING dungeon spots for gold or who “advertise” taxi’s for boss maps on again.. the living world tab. How about the people who “advertise” that they need help with a story instance and don’t place the request in it’s proper place, or people who are “advertising” portals for jumping puzzles and appreciate tips. Don’t forget people who “advertise” to ask for a group of zerker 5k ap 80s exp only, which excludes enormous amount of newbies who want to just join a dungeon made for 35+ level players in the first place.

This rule is unfair and only being used it seems to reduce the amount support tickets people send in when they get scammed for something. Don’t punish me because you’re spending too much on customer service and support when “I” didn’t do anything wrong. They put rule on top of rule to enforce something they screwed up in the first place.

Don’t get me wrong, I love GW2 and it’s the only MMO that I’ve really gotten into as much as I have, but this rule is just flat out weird. I can understand if Anet doesn’t want to deal with scammers and people selling things on the lfg, but at least make a tab for us people who want to create groups for, “Miscellaneous” reasons like opening up a home instance to share with other players. You know what I mean.. looking for a group of people to share my home instance with. I am looking for a group after all.

ZanchinFissure.7981:

I create groups to share my home instance for free and NEVER ask for tips so people don’t feel obliged or awkward at the end like most people try to make them feel when they say right away, “Tips Appreciated”. I spent over a thousand gold and want to share it with people out of my own volition and generosity and then I’m made out to be like someone who’s breaking the rules. Anet claims to be all about the friendly atmosphere and it’s coop community but then makes a rule like this.

If it is that important to you start a guild based on access to home instances and invite people that way. It is a win-win. You start a guild and make lots of long term friends and can allow them access to your home instance.

However, as stated, the LFG tool is not the place to advertise access to portals. Your intentions might be pure, but unfortunately this is a case where others have ruined it for everyone else as people would find ways to use it as a workaround to monetize access.

JustTrogdor.7892:

If it is that important to you start a guild based on access to home instances and invite people that way. It is a win-win. You start a guild and make lots of long term friends and can allow them access to your home instance.

However, as stated, the LFG tool is not the place to advertise access to portals. Your intentions might be pure, but unfortunately this is a case where others have ruined it for everyone else as people would find ways to use it as a workaround to monetize access.

I understand the issue they’ve been having and they needed to make a generalized rule to stop it’s abuse as a whole, it just kinda puts me in a spot where I wonder if I should have ever bought all the nodes and gems to get my home instance all full(ish) like it is now.

If I had known that I couldn’t share my home as much as I’d like to, I wouldn’t have paid for these nodes. It’s fun for me when people are like, “Woah you have almost all of them!”. I won’t lie and say it doesn’t flatter my ego a little bit, but then why do people create legendary weapons if not to show them off and tickle their own ego’s aswell. I can’t be that guilty. Someone gave me 20g once for whatever reason I don’t know, and I mailed it back to them because I know it’s not worth that much. They mailed it back and it was a little generosity war for a few moments till I just accepted their gift.

Maybe I just needed to vent because I feel like I’m in the cross-fire of something that I can’t control so whatever. I’m done, but I’ll leave my post up.

Invisiplous.6094:

Gaile Gray.6029:

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.

Does that include selling dungeons, jumping puzzles, etc.?
And what if you port for free and accept donations?

So whats the final ruling on this ANET?

Gaile’s last post wasn’t clear cut enough. As this question popped up right away and was discussed at length back and forth but no official response or comment.

I as well want to know:

Advertising a “FREE home instance farm” via LFG-tool infraction worthy?
Advertising a “FREE home instance farm” via Map chat (which I find more offending) infraction worthy?

I could argue as well all that if dungeon path and JP-Portal selling is tolerated, why not this as well because there is no explicitly stated policy on them either.

If this is stickied then at least make it perfectly clear whats your stance on that.

+ Vote for Edit on OP for more clarity

Hidori.3472:

Selling home instance runs
Those home instance sellers are growing to be a pest these days. Yesterday I counted more than 20 of them while minding my regular LFG business. Most of the time there were several such offers displayed at once, making the list longer and the browsing harder.

Misc announcements
And soon when HoT comes and the player base gets bigger, the guild recruitment and other announcements will make the map chat gold sellers the lesser of the evil.

Against the rules, do your part and report them.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Policy-on-the-LFG-Tool/first#post4771535

Gaile Gray.6029:

Seka.5647:

What about selling access to ones home instance for gathering resources? Namely I just spotted this new type of selling in lfg just about an hour ago : " Sell access crafting nodes (17) for 20 silver…..->" . Does it belong to the dungeon sort of selling section or is it abusing the lfg due to selling access to “items”?

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

I agree, Hidori- selling/trading anything on the LFG should be considered LFG abuse. The amount of spam in “Open World” is mainly because of people trying to sell things.

Another problem I see relatively frequently is “P1 exp” or things like that in Open World. It bothers me because nobody is going to know which dungeon they are doing and it would probably take longer for them to fill their party because of that. I don’t feel like reporting them because chances are it’s just an honest mistake… but could it be considered as LFG abuse?

It would be nice to have a tab in the LFG for people recruiting or looking for a guild. It could divert a lot of the guild recruitment away from map chat.

Hello, I recently ran into a member who was charging party members substantial amounts of gold to run a dungeon with him or her. Once inside the dungeon, he or she demanded us to pay them upwards to four gold for each party member, they went on to state there time wasn’t free. Once we started the dungeon he or she kept pressing the issue wanting four gold from each member that joined the party and of course none of us paid the fee, and he or she refused to run the dungeon and kicked us from the group. This happened to several groups this person created that evening, I reported them for both scamming, and abusing the LFG feature. I just wanted to mention this on the forum, for those members who are not aware because I was asked afterwards, “were we required to pay a party leader to run a dungeon?” by players who were very new to the MMO type gaming environment. I assured them this player was in the wrong, and not to ever pay anything whether its gold or any of forum of currency to anyone outside of the market place.

If this isn’t against the rules, it should be in my opinion. The Dungeon party or LFG feature isn’t a market place, it allows members to group up depending on skill and time (certain groups for certain events) No one should be charging members for gold or anything else to join a group, everyone is equal in the game and no matter your level it’s really all about how you approach the scenario whether or not you will survive the in game encounter.

If my reports were in the wrong, I apologize but I have never encountered this in a game where a member was allowed to charge other members for their time. It certainly doesn’t happen in the other MMO’s I’m involved in, sure you can state a member needs a certain item and allow that person to have it in a party, but other than that it’s really just about the overall group gaming experience.

Firewalker.8940:

Hello, I recently ran into a member who was charging party members substantial amounts of gold to run a dungeon with him or her. Once inside the dungeon, he or she demanded us to pay them upwards to four gold for each party member, they went on to state there time wasn’t free. Once we started the dungeon he or she kept pressing the issue wanting four gold from each member that joined the party and of course none of us paid the fee, and he or she refused to run the dungeon and kicked us from the group. This happened to several groups this person created that evening, I reported them for both scamming, and abusing the LFG feature. I just wanted to mention this on the forum, for those members who are not aware because I was asked afterwards, “were we required to pay a party leader to run a dungeon?” by players who were very new to the MMO type gaming environment. I assured them this player was in the wrong, and not to ever pay anything whether its gold or any of forum of currency to anyone outside of the market place.

If this isn’t against the rules, it should be in my opinion. The Dungeon party or LFG feature isn’t a market place, it allows members to group up depending on skill and time (certain groups for certain events) No one should be charging members for gold or anything else to join a group, everyone is equal in the game and no matter your level it’s really all about how you approach the scenario whether or not you will survive the in game encounter.

If my reports were in the wrong, I apologize but I have never encountered this in a game where a member was allowed to charge other members for their time. It certainly doesn’t happen in the other MMO’s I’m involved in, sure you can state a member needs a certain item and allow that person to have it in a party, but other than that it’s really just about the overall group gaming experience.

Path/dungeon selling isn’t against the rules, but neither is it supported. If the seller was open about selling the dungeon run, then I would say read the LFG more carefully, until the policy on dungeon selling changes.
If the seller did not advert that the LFG was a dungeon run, I would feel that was against policy, as that player was extorting the party. In that case, the reports were warranted.

Rauderi.8706:

Firewalker.8940:

Hello, I recently ran into a member who was charging party members substantial amounts of gold to run a dungeon with him or her. Once inside the dungeon, he or she demanded us to pay them upwards to four gold for each party member, they went on to state there time wasn’t free. Once we started the dungeon he or she kept pressing the issue wanting four gold from each member that joined the party and of course none of us paid the fee, and he or she refused to run the dungeon and kicked us from the group. This happened to several groups this person created that evening, I reported them for both scamming, and abusing the LFG feature. I just wanted to mention this on the forum, for those members who are not aware because I was asked afterwards, “were we required to pay a party leader to run a dungeon?” by players who were very new to the MMO type gaming environment. I assured them this player was in the wrong, and not to ever pay anything whether its gold or any of forum of currency to anyone outside of the market place.

If this isn’t against the rules, it should be in my opinion. The Dungeon party or LFG feature isn’t a market place, it allows members to group up depending on skill and time (certain groups for certain events) No one should be charging members for gold or anything else to join a group, everyone is equal in the game and no matter your level it’s really all about how you approach the scenario whether or not you will survive the in game encounter.

If my reports were in the wrong, I apologize but I have never encountered this in a game where a member was allowed to charge other members for their time. It certainly doesn’t happen in the other MMO’s I’m involved in, sure you can state a member needs a certain item and allow that person to have it in a party, but other than that it’s really just about the overall group gaming experience.

Path/dungeon selling isn’t against the rules, but neither is it supported. If the seller was open about selling the dungeon run, then I would say read the LFG more carefully, until the policy on dungeon selling changes.
If the seller did not advert that the LFG was a dungeon run, I would feel that was against policy, as that player was extorting the party. In that case, the reports were warranted.

Thank you for the reply, I don’t think it was clear enough in the opening join.
However that may be up for debate by others. I’ll read over the LFG rules and info once more, and to be clear I discussed this with my guild afterward and was advised on how to handle it next time. Which is where the questioning came from, it wasn’t exactly do I pay? It’s can they do this and it not be against the rules and is it supported. Now I know it’s not but it’s not exactly breaking said rules either. I still think it’s wrong but thank you for the information. Hopefully I won’t be in trouble for reporting them.

So there is less “Wts my x legendary” in the LFG but even more of
“WTS gw1 acc 50/50hom 2k gold pm me”
“Guild recruitments”
“selling of home instance” and other kinds of weird posts on the lfg.

Is Anet observing this and should there be a ingame text what you can and what you can not put in the lfg?
I am really getting fed up with these wtb and wts “listings” on a place they should not be.

So anyone else seen this and what are your stances on the whole LFG “misuse” as I put it?

Selling accounts is against the ToS. It is a sure-fire way to get rid of an account, I suppose…just not the one they had in mind.

It’s against the ToS for sure, but I don’t see how this affects you at all. Just scroll past and be on your way like the rest of us.

Re: The "WTS gw1 acc 50/50hom 2k gold pm me” guy

I saw this too earlier. I reported for LFG Misuse.

Edit: What I’ve also been doing is joining his party and leaving again, since he’s on his own, it takes his post off LFG

Jahroots.6791:

It’s against the ToS for sure, but I don’t see how this affects you at all. Just scroll past and be on your way like the rest of us.

I don’t know if ArenaNet do, but I’d class it as an RMT purchase, which if allowed, affects everybody.

I would love to see more categories, or filters, to the LFG tool. Like filtering for people in your current area (like SW maps or Frostgorge chestfarm). Maybe a World boss tour category and more. There are so many different stuff being announced in the “main” channel (together with the lfg/wts crap).

report is all you can do. miss-usage of the tools is not allowed.

Selling dungeon paths have always been a gray area.
Selling home instances seems to be a no-no.
Selling items… not sure what ANets official word was, but it is buyer beware.
Guild recruitment isn’t something I’ve seen before. Although I do think Anet needs to implement a better system in-game to help recruit new guildies.

Wait, why is selling home instances a no-no? to be clear it sounds to me like you pay me 1 gold and i let you mine/collect all the things in my home instance that day.

CureForLiving.5360:

Selling dungeon paths have always been a gray area.
Selling home instances seems to be a no-no.
Selling items… not sure what ANets official word was, but it is buyer beware.
Guild recruitment isn’t something I’ve seen before. Although I do think Anet needs to implement a better system in-game to help recruit new guildies.

LFG is not to be used to sell items, so not allowed. And it’s not allowed to be guild recruitment either.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Our policy: Players may use the LFG Tool only for the formation of a group.

Players may use the tool to sell a spot in a group, but they may not use it to sell or trade items or for any other unintended purposes. Doing so will result in an account infraction.

And later on in a reply on the thread:

Gaile Gray.6029:

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

CureForLiving.5360:

Selling dungeon paths have always been a gray area.
Selling home instances seems to be a no-no.
Selling items… not sure what ANets official word was, but it is buyer beware.
Guild recruitment isn’t something I’ve seen before. Although I do think Anet needs to implement a better system in-game to help recruit new guildies.

Selling Dungeons is not a grey area, ANet said that it it totally fine for people to sell spots in the dungeon they cleared. The dev post is in the Dungeons forums. No one has ever been actioned against for selling paths of dungeons. This is aiken to a GW1 thing where people would sell “runs” to major city hubs. This is okay but buyer beware, as you are still LOOKING for a group member(s)

Selling Home Instances is not okay from what I have seen from Gaile.

Selling Items/Legendaries is Abuse of LFG and can be reported, this was posted in General Discussion a few months ago. Not only is it avoiding the Standard TP fees and failsafes but you’re not actually looking for a group at all

Selling Accounts is Against ToS completely and is also bannable.

Seera.5916:

CureForLiving.5360:

Selling dungeon paths have always been a gray area.
Selling home instances seems to be a no-no.
Selling items… not sure what ANets official word was, but it is buyer beware.
Guild recruitment isn’t something I’ve seen before. Although I do think Anet needs to implement a better system in-game to help recruit new guildies.

LFG is not to be used to sell items, so not allowed. And it’s not allowed to be guild recruitment either.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Our policy: Players may use the LFG Tool only for the formation of a group.

Players may use the tool to sell a spot in a group, but they may not use it to sell or trade items or for any other unintended purposes. Doing so will result in an account infraction.

And later on in a reply on the thread:

Gaile Gray.6029:

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

could you please link that post?

It is the Sticky at the top of the page, I believe.

Good luck.