Guild Wars 2

myself.2143:

Look at it this way Angel, by showing people what you are doing, he is effectively giving you free advertising. You just might get a lot more business!

People who want what you are offering and are willing to pay, will pay. those who don’t want to pay, won’t get your service.

There’s nothing he can do to shut you down so don’t worry about it.

well you got a point right there, its just that people think of people mostly are scamming when are offering enough and legit service for other players, of all my 38 customers, i never did once back down on what they wanted to achieve and get, its just annoying people want to demand something they want to do for their own benefit

They can demand all they want, you are not obligated to give into those demands whatsoever. If people like that annoy you, take the suggestions of other posters here and /block him and move on. And like I said, just think of his wailing as free advertising and prepare for a possible influx of new customers.

Also, I said there was nothing he could do to shut you down, but that’s not actually true: He COULD tell people you are scamming/are a scammer, but in that case, since it’s a blatant lie (I assume you are selling a legit runs and not scamming people), you might be able to report him for slander or something. idk if anet would do anything about it though.

Yeah, I’m one of the people that considers it an… unsavoury practice that promotes an atmosphere in the game that is quite unwelcoming.

The “tips” method mentioned above sounds like a much more palatable compromise to me. That way rather than demanding that your time is worth a certain amount you’re allowing people to put a value on the help you’re offering, and that value can be based on your performance after the fact rather than demanded up front for a possibly unsatisfactory service. I’d also like to believe that in the long-term you’d make more money from being magnanimous and open-spirited with your time than from being (to my perception) kind of miserly.

I’m not saying that I’d report you or necessarily agree with the other guy or how he handled the situation. Depending on my mood I’d probably either laugh and wish you the best of luck before leaving, or possibly if I was in a particularly bad mood, block you to make the LFG experience more enjoyable for myself.

*I’m taking “wrong” to mean morally objectionable, since you already have your answer for against the terms of service.

To be honest there’s probably a cultural element to it. I’m told that in some countries if your housemate came in and said “I’ve lost my house keys”, helping them look for them would be considered going over the top.

(No offence was meant by any of this post, I’m sorry if it comes across in a tone that wasn’t intended)

From my perspective Angel, what you’re doing is basically the same as selling a path in Arah. As someone who has bought paths in Arah, I can safely say that I see nothing wrong with the practice so long as it isn’t abused and the prices are reasonable. There are always going to be people who have difficulty with certain content. If you’re willing to help out, even for a fee, I see no issue with it. And thank you for offering such a service!

If I am really fed up with something really boring and horrible, like in this case the ls2 achievements, I sometimes try to defeat the cheapskate in me and cough up the money.

Although I also deem it morally questionable, I have to admit that this is a valuable service. You seemed to have moved in the barriers of the law here.

Torolan.5816:

If I am really fed up with something really boring and horrible, like in this case the ls2 achievements, I sometimes try to defeat the cheapskate in me and cough up the money.

Although I also deem it morally questionable, I have to admit that this is a valuable service. You seemed to have moved in the barriers of the law here.

well i could be off service anytime <3 thank you for your words!

Berelious.3290:

From my perspective Angel, what you’re doing is basically the same as selling a path in Arah. As someone who has bought paths in Arah, I can safely say that I see nothing wrong with the practice so long as it isn’t abused and the prices are reasonable. There are always going to be people who have difficulty with certain content. If you’re willing to help out, even for a fee, I see no issue with it. And thank you for offering such a service!

haha no problem! see you in game when youre going to be with me during the service!

Wait, wait, wait.

So some guy was going to tell the whole community that you were publicly advertising to the whole community that you were selling spots?

Wouldn’t that be free marketing?

While your question about whether or not it is allowed has been answered, I really have to ask what about it makes it ‘morally objectionable’ because all I see it as is helping out the community which of course doesn’t promote anything but a positive atmosphere. The fact that it is given a price changes nothing, I even see it as more helpful (2 players helping each other rather than only the seller helping and getting nothing in return if it was done for free.
Selling paths/instances is also extremely helpful for me and probably prevents a lot of anger and rage on harder dungeons and group content (if my group wipes in a dungeon I get extremely angry if I was already feeling a bit impatient and sometimes start raging (to myself, never in chat because I would hate to upset anyone and I only blame myself for what happens anyway usually). However some people may say things in chat that offend others if they repeatedly fail something which creates a MUCH more negative atmosphere than anyone selling could cause.
OP- as you already know, what you are doing is 100% Fine and I am glad you spend your time helping the community when you could be farming SW making more gold than you will be currently.

Ironically I am all about supporting players making coin in game via alternate routes such as TP flipping, crafting and selling Legendaries, key farming and so fourth. I am also fine with people looking for tips though I have never done so.

That said I think the policy that using the LFG tool to sell spots in parties gives the wrong impression. The ruling was already made that it shouldn’t be used to sell items or sell access to people’s individual home instances but its ok with selling a spot in a group for a dungeon, fractal or achievement. That’s a really thin dividing line as is. It also create ill will since its original intent was help gather people together to do something. The more you see all the groups are pay me to join I think the less you will see people use it. It can also creates an environment where new players will think ok so I need gold to be able to join a group. It also distracts from people really looking to group together to do something. Add in the potential impact on Raids and we could soon see “Selling Raid 100 Gold” which kind of defeats the goal of “challenging” content. Not completely opposed to people doing this, but not in the LFG tool at least.

If it does remain a policy then can we add a selling section to the LFG interface and have people advertise there to keep the open parties open? Might also consider going back to allowing people to sell other services or goods there as well if this continues to be the policy.

2 cents from a player that plays the make some coin portion of the game….Good hunting!

Get over it already. This was settle 2 years ago. JESUS

TheGrimm.5624:

If it does remain a policy then can we add a selling section to the LFG interface and have people advertise there to keep the open parties open? Might also consider going back to allowing people to sell other services or goods there as well if this continues to be the policy.

The separate section in the LFG tool for selling is an idea that I like. I think it would be a very considerate tweak to the system.

Pandaman.4758:

Wait, wait, wait.

So some guy was going to tell the whole community that you were publicly advertising to the whole community that you were selling spots?

Wouldn’t that be free marketing?

HAHAHAHA, point taken!

suffish.4150:

While your question about whether or not it is allowed has been answered, I really have to ask what about it makes it ‘morally objectionable’ because all I see it as is helping out the community which of course doesn’t promote anything but a positive atmosphere. The fact that it is given a price changes nothing, I even see it as more helpful (2 players helping each other rather than only the seller helping and getting nothing in return if it was done for free.
Selling paths/instances is also extremely helpful for me and probably prevents a lot of anger and rage on harder dungeons and group content (if my group wipes in a dungeon I get extremely angry if I was already feeling a bit impatient and sometimes start raging (to myself, never in chat because I would hate to upset anyone and I only blame myself for what happens anyway usually). However some people may say things in chat that offend others if they repeatedly fail something which creates a MUCH more negative atmosphere than anyone selling could cause.
OP- as you already know, what you are doing is 100% Fine and I am glad you spend your time helping the community when you could be farming SW making more gold than you will be currently.

thank you!

Hello,

I need clarification from Gaile about the Home Instance LFG.

IF you allow for dungeons to be sold then you must allow for the Home Instance to be sold as well in LFG as well as other mesmer portals (jumping puzzles most likely)

WHY? Because I for example put a lot of money and effort to build up my home instance and now trying to sell it on map chat alone is nearly imposible.

This game has an economy system and I invested money to get money back (like other people do on the TP). WHY shouldn’t I be allowed to use LFG (cause i’m looking for people) to sell (not items) but rewards exactly like people that do dungeons sell dungeon party spots for gold? They invested time, I invested time, I want to be able to use the LFG to look for groups of people that will gain rewards by doing a content map (home instance in this case).

WHY dungeon selling is ok for LFG and WHY Home instance selling is not allowed? It’s a nonsense. If you don’t want to clutter the LFG just make a category for this (home, mesmer portals, guild recruitment and so on). Is it that hard to add a few more choices to LFG tool??? I belive it could be done under 1 hour of work from the developers side.

I want to be able to use LFG tool to sell my Home Instance Nodes in a legit way like dungeons sellers do. Do I ask for the imposible here? I’m NOT circumventing the TP (I can’t sell home instance nodes on the TP or else I would) and I’d be happy to pay a 15% tax to sell the nodes on my home instance if the devs ask for this as well.

Please respond to this Gaile cause you know, making a full home instance is very expensive in game and I’ve invested a lot of time and gold and gems to do so, just for you guys to do a ruling that I can’t use the LFG tool legit anymore. This makes me very very sad.

Thanks.

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

I know you said more or less but you still said dungeon require a group to complete which is not true at all. The only thing group oriented about dungeons is that you are allowed to enter with a group, an aspect that home instances and dungeons share.

Therodin.2970:

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

I know you said more or less but you still said dungeon require a group to complete which is not true at all. The only thing group oriented about dungeons is that you are allowed to enter with a group, an aspect that home instances and dungeons share.

Dungeons are designed and balanced around having a group enter and complete it. Home instances are not.

Some paths do require more than one player and can not be soloed completely. CoE explorable requires 4-5 players for the laser room. And the laser room is in all 3 paths.

Therodin.2970:

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

I know you said more or less but you still said dungeon require a group to complete which is not true at all. The only thing group oriented about dungeons is that you are allowed to enter with a group, an aspect that home instances and dungeons share.

Yeah, I said more or less specifically because of the <1% of players that can solo them. For the rest of the players, they need more than themselves in order to complete a dungeon or fractal. The LFG system was there to form groups to do group activities. There are just some people that use “group” to mean anything that can be done with more than one person which is not the usage that Anet is using.

Valdur.2679:

Hello,

I need clarification from Gaile about the Home Instance LFG.

IF you allow for dungeons to be sold then you must allow for the Home Instance to be sold as well in LFG as well as other mesmer portals (jumping puzzles most likely)

WHY? Because I for example put a lot of money and effort to build up my home instance and now trying to sell it on map chat alone is nearly imposible.

This game has an economy system and I invested money to get money back (like other people do on the TP). WHY shouldn’t I be allowed to use LFG (cause i’m looking for people) to sell (not items) but rewards exactly like people that do dungeons sell dungeon party spots for gold? They invested time, I invested time, I want to be able to use the LFG to look for groups of people that will gain rewards by doing a content map (home instance in this case).

WHY dungeon selling is ok for LFG and WHY Home instance selling is not allowed? It’s a nonsense. If you don’t want to clutter the LFG just make a category for this (home, mesmer portals, guild recruitment and so on). Is it that hard to add a few more choices to LFG tool??? I belive it could be done under 1 hour of work from the developers side.

I want to be able to use LFG tool to sell my Home Instance Nodes in a legit way like dungeons sellers do. Do I ask for the imposible here? I’m NOT circumventing the TP (I can’t sell home instance nodes on the TP or else I would) and I’d be happy to pay a 15% tax to sell the nodes on my home instance if the devs ask for this as well.

Please respond to this Gaile cause you know, making a full home instance is very expensive in game and I’ve invested a lot of time and gold and gems to do so, just for you guys to do a ruling that I can’t use the LFG tool legit anymore. This makes me very very sad.

Thanks.

Firstly no one forced you to buy Home Instance Nodes, you made that decision all by yourself. They are no essential to the game they are merely a convenience. ANET on the other hand have to create revenue streams within the game in order for it to continue to develop. By allowing you to sell your home instance nodes they are potentially cutting off one such revenue stream of their own and that wouldn’t be too smart really from a business perspective.

GW2 is a game to you, but its a business to ANET.

Gaile Grey has already made it clear what is and isn’t allowed by ANET.. so maybe take a read back in this thread if your still wanting clarification.

The only double standard I see is that ANET has put into this policy is the allowance to form a group to farm the last 1% of a dungeon in order to gain rewards/achievs… that is no different to advertising portals for chests.

If their policy is to not allow the LFG for selling purposes then selling spots or goods should be a blanket NO or a blanket YES not this double standard approach they have put out here.

Then again putting out a policy and actually enforcing it are two entirely different things aren’t they Gaile!

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

Don’t make me laugh… the LFG is blighted with adverts selling spots for players to stand their and watch the last 1% of a boss melt in seconds… that is not legitimate grouping purposes of a dungeon that is exploiting the LFG in order to make coin… and I would hazard a guess many of them have utilised a variety of known exploits in order to get to boss time and time again throughout the day.
Then of course ANET suddenly wash their hands of whole selling spots thing when players hand over the money and get booted out before its completed.. sure they might catch the culprit but you don’t get your money back cos its allowed but “not supported”.. double standards again.

Bloodstealer.5978:

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

Don’t make me laugh… the LFG is blighted with adverts selling spots for players to stand their and watch the last 1% of a boss melt in seconds… that is not legitimate grouping purposes of a dungeon that is exploiting the LFG in order to make coin… and I would hazard a guess many of them have utilised a variety of known exploits in order to get to boss time and time again throughout the day.
Then of course ANET suddenly wash their hands of whole selling spots thing when players hand over the money and get booted out before its completed.. sure they might catch the culprit but you don’t get your money back cos its allowed but “not supported”.. double standards again.

The scammers only get punished because scamming is against the TOS and they only get caught if the person scammed has in game proof. They don’t get punished because they allow dungeon selling.

They neither support nor prohibit dungeon selling.

Seera.5916:

Bloodstealer.5978:

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

Don’t make me laugh… the LFG is blighted with adverts selling spots for players to stand their and watch the last 1% of a boss melt in seconds… that is not legitimate grouping purposes of a dungeon that is exploiting the LFG in order to make coin… and I would hazard a guess many of them have utilised a variety of known exploits in order to get to boss time and time again throughout the day.
Then of course ANET suddenly wash their hands of whole selling spots thing when players hand over the money and get booted out before its completed.. sure they might catch the culprit but you don’t get your money back cos its allowed but “not supported”.. double standards again.

The scammers only get punished because scamming is against the TOS and they only get caught if the person scammed has in game proof. They don’t get punished because they allow dungeon selling.

They neither support nor prohibit dungeon selling.

Errmm.. pretty sure that’s what I just said

Bloodstealer.5978:

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

Don’t make me laugh… the LFG is blighted with adverts selling spots for players to stand their and watch the last 1% of a boss melt in seconds… that is not legitimate grouping purposes of a dungeon that is exploiting the LFG in order to make coin… and I would hazard a guess many of them have utilised a variety of known exploits in order to get to boss time and time again throughout the day.
Then of course ANET suddenly wash their hands of whole selling spots thing when players hand over the money and get booted out before its completed.. sure they might catch the culprit but you don’t get your money back cos its allowed but “not supported”.. double standards again.

It’s group content.

Anet has stated their rules. You may not agree with them but you must follow them.

Bloodstealer.5978:

Seera.5916:

Bloodstealer.5978:

Ayrilana.1396:

Dungeons are not the same as home instances. Dungeons require a group to complete, more or less, and are also considered a group activity that necessitates the need for the LFG tool. Home instances are no such thing.

Don’t make me laugh… the LFG is blighted with adverts selling spots for players to stand their and watch the last 1% of a boss melt in seconds… that is not legitimate grouping purposes of a dungeon that is exploiting the LFG in order to make coin… and I would hazard a guess many of them have utilised a variety of known exploits in order to get to boss time and time again throughout the day.
Then of course ANET suddenly wash their hands of whole selling spots thing when players hand over the money and get booted out before its completed.. sure they might catch the culprit but you don’t get your money back cos its allowed but “not supported”.. double standards again.

The scammers only get punished because scamming is against the TOS and they only get caught if the person scammed has in game proof. They don’t get punished because they allow dungeon selling.

They neither support nor prohibit dungeon selling.

Errmm.. pretty sure that’s what I just said

But it’s not double standards.

Selling dungeons which were exploited or in which they kicked other members out of in order to sell the spots are both against the TOS so if you suspect that has happened, feel free to report them for the appropriate category.

You are only allowed to sell spots in a dungeon group if:

1. You didn’t exploit the dungeon at all.
2. You don’t kick anyone out in order to sell their spot.

Can we have a “looking for guild/guild looking for more”-catergory in the LFG-tool?

Bytestorm.8021:

Can we have a “looking for guild/guild looking for more”-catergory in the LFG-tool?

Gaile Gray.6029:

Seka.5647:

What about selling access to ones home instance for gathering resources? Namely I just spotted this new type of selling in lfg just about an hour ago : " Sell access crafting nodes (17) for 20 silver…..->" . Does it belong to the dungeon sort of selling section or is it abusing the lfg due to selling access to “items”?

• Advertising an access portal is not allowed.
• Guild Recruitment is not allowed.

Both are unrelated to forming a group and therefore are not part of the intended purpose of the Looking for Group Tool.

I like doing FotM’s- how can I use LFG tool so I’m not targeted by the abuse system? Today I’ve done 3 fractals, couldn’t use LFG for 5m, done 4th, couldn’t use LFG for, well, I don’t know, as I’ve hopped to my engineer and mapped an entire map before the timeout expired. Done the 5th, and then just decided to not wait – one daily doesn’t mean much, but I’d like to use LFG in the future, so – how can I do so, when FotM groups are generally created for purpose of doing daily / or (fragmented) achievements?

Is advertising for a group to farm a home instance acceptable? Like I have a fully loaded home instance that I like to invite others to farm…can I use lfg for this?

*Edit: I’m not selling it, I’m just inviting others to use it for their benefit.

Gify.1249:

Is advertising for a group to farm a home instance acceptable? Like I have a fully loaded home instance that I like to invite others to farm…can I use lfg for this?

*Edit: I’m not selling it, I’m just inviting others to use it for their benefit.

No. I think it was stated on the 2nd or 3rd page that it was not allowed.

Ayrilana.1396:

Gify.1249:

Is advertising for a group to farm a home instance acceptable? Like I have a fully loaded home instance that I like to invite others to farm…can I use lfg for this?

*Edit: I’m not selling it, I’m just inviting others to use it for their benefit.

No. I think it was stated on the 2nd or 3rd page that it was not allowed.

Not allowed, but you can disguise it as “qaggan home instance party, complimentary nodes included”

saturn.4810:

Ayrilana.1396:

Gify.1249:

Is advertising for a group to farm a home instance acceptable? Like I have a fully loaded home instance that I like to invite others to farm…can I use lfg for this?

*Edit: I’m not selling it, I’m just inviting others to use it for their benefit.

No. I think it was stated on the 2nd or 3rd page that it was not allowed.

Not allowed, but you can disguise it as “qaggan home instance party, complimentary nodes included”

Not really.

Ayrilana.1396:

saturn.4810:

Ayrilana.1396:

Gify.1249:

Is advertising for a group to farm a home instance acceptable? Like I have a fully loaded home instance that I like to invite others to farm…can I use lfg for this?

*Edit: I’m not selling it, I’m just inviting others to use it for their benefit.

No. I think it was stated on the 2nd or 3rd page that it was not allowed.

Not allowed, but you can disguise it as “qaggan home instance party, complimentary nodes included”

Not really.

Why not?

saturn.4810:

Ayrilana.1396:

saturn.4810:

Ayrilana.1396:

Gify.1249:

Is advertising for a group to farm a home instance acceptable? Like I have a fully loaded home instance that I like to invite others to farm…can I use lfg for this?

*Edit: I’m not selling it, I’m just inviting others to use it for their benefit.

No. I think it was stated on the 2nd or 3rd page that it was not allowed.

Not allowed, but you can disguise it as “qaggan home instance party, complimentary nodes included”

Not really.

Why not?

Because it’s still an attempt for home instance nodes. Now if you excluded the last part about the nodes, you could probably get away with it.

Hello, I’d like to make a comment about the LFG Tool. As it functions now, it’s busted. Players should not be able to enter your party and merge it forcefully with another party without your consent. They should not be able to edit the party description. If you create the party, you should be the only one able to do that without a transfer of leadership. I’m sure this has probably been brought up, but I’ve had 3 instances where people have hijacked my party from me, dragged me into another party for something totally different, or jumped in with someone and voted to kick me for no reason. I surely hope you will /fix/ this tool, because in it’s current state, it’s too easily abused. As far as I’m concerned, these things are an abuse of the LFG tool and harassment towards players. Due to these situations I have had to, and will continue to, report players for these instances. (Not ones that are viable, of course. If I join a party and they kick me, that’s a totally different story.) If you do not feel these are infractions, you can choose to not act on the reports. I hope to see that this tool is changed soon.

Hey guys !

Is it okay to sell the home instance (or any other things like jumping puzzles …) for free or with a ‘’tips appreciate’’ in the LFG?

markus.5936:

Hey guys !

Is it okay to sell the home instance (or any other things like jumping puzzles …) for free or with a ‘’tips appreciate’’ in the LFG?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Policy-on-the-LFG-Tool/first#post4771535

The thing I report most is when players try to sell soul bound or account bound items or try to circumvent the Trading Post.

I generally report any that biolate the rules when I go to use the LFG tool. For example, last night someone was trying to sell their WoW account for GW2 gold.

way late to this thread but if the devs do re read this some day maybe they will see its time for another revise for the LFG tool,

1 add sub categries to the title of the post like map name, dungeon, raid, etc. (there are too many crap titles or lingo used that few understand)(some say “path 3” and its posted in living world section like why is it there?)
2 make merging parties a two step process so it will eliminate accidental merges…like right click on name of poster then select merge parties.
3 stop auto kicking lfg posters when one person joins and leaves instantly.

Seriously, a warning needs to be placed for the LFG tool in game somehow. Some players don’t read the forums and I’m seeing LFG abused almost daily now.

I know you’re all busy, but please put a few lines of text to let people know what is not allowed in LFG soon. Thanks.

This post topic started over a year ago, and for a time the LFG Tool abuse died down. But it has risen up again. Frequently, people who haven’t read this post in the forums will try to buy or sell items. A few people will respond politely when they are informed about the policy, but most immediately resort to insults as a defense for what they are doing. There are also those who feign ignorance but actually know the policy and don’t care.

I think that a general notice should be put in the game, on the LFG Tool itself, so that people cannot claim ignorance for attempting to buy or sell items. Once people are aware, they can be punished properly for breaking a rule. It should also cut down on the number of infractions and reports that need to be made, because the word will be out there.

The most frequent method is trying to sell soulbound/account bound items to other guilds’ guild halls (i.e. they join the guild, donate the items, get paid, then leave the guild). I have not heard specifically the policy about these items, because they can’t be traded on the Trading Post in any case, but my base assumption is that this is not permitted.

I read early on in this post that selling a spot in a dungeon is permitted, but it is “buyer beware”. My opinion is that buying or selling an intangible item such as a spot in a dungeon should not be permitted; even if you have legitimate dungeoners, it just opens up the door for scams, and hence should be prevented altogether.

Recent trends in the LFG Tool is selling spots in raids. I have not seen raids mentioned specifically in this topic, but I treat them the same as I treat dungeons, in that I feel that selling spots in a raid should not be permitted (especially for the ridiculous prices some guilds charge). On a related but different note is people in raids “selling” titles and other things that are difficult to achieve. I feel that this should specifically be not allowed, as well; it defeats the point of earning a hard-to-get title, if people can just “buy” the title. Again, buying and selling anything associated with raids on the LFG Tool is just opening the door for scams, and should not be allowed.

I understand much of this post is my opinion, but I want to reiterate what I said early on: that there should be a written notice in the game, on the LFG Tool itself, about the official policy regarding the LFG Tool. That way, people will know what is allowed, and people will know what is not allowed, and people will be able to be informed when they report violators. This is a must, as it will help reduce the number of LFG Tool violations and problems. Once it is in place, it will help reduce ArenaNet employees workloads, and as such should be a high priority.

You will sell everything through the tp so you can not get the full price of your item ..another thing that GW1 did better , you advertised an item, put a price on it, you haggled or not with a buyer, you traded . You got the full price, they got the item.

Balkarrie Legacy.9175:

You will sell everything through the tp so you can not get the full price of your item ..another thing that GW1 did better , you advertised an item, put a price on it, you haggled or not with a buyer, you traded . You got the full price, they got the item.

And how many people got scammed?

lfg is clearly the wrong spot for this, but where are you supposed to go to sell things that aren’t on the TP?
most of these are guild decorations/treasury. to name a few: super cloud, trophies, boss body parts, shovels, pvp potion, TP merchant, essence of luck, mystic crystal, map-specific materials (airship oil, etc)
there are people that want to buy these, and people that want to sell them. people only use the lfg for these because there is nowhere else. where do you want these trades to happen?

Mystic.5934:

lfg is clearly the wrong spot for this, but where are you supposed to go to sell things that aren’t on the TP?
most of these are guild decorations/treasury. to name a few: super cloud, trophies, boss body parts, shovels, pvp potion, TP merchant, essence of luck, mystic crystal, map-specific materials (airship oil, etc)
there are people that want to buy these, and people that want to sell them. people only use the lfg for these because there is nowhere else. where do you want these trades to happen?

The fact that those items are account bound strongly suggests that they DON’T want these trades to happen at all.

Stop this, people do not read the EULA thing.
someone selling dungeon paths and Home Instance in LFG is for 90 % a veteran MMO Player who eactly knows that he is moving in a grey area.
Ignorance is not an excuse for commiting crimes.

I strongly suggest ANET for banning every form of getting profit through LFG tool. Path selling in Dungeons/Raids should also be compeltely forbidden.