Now you’re bringing up conversation points.
Let’s begin.
The only reason i brought up skill point challenges was to refute the claim made by some people that they didn’t want to be bothered by seeing peoples skills and particle effects going off in the open world.
There have been claims that it is annoying to see skills being used around towns/npcs/busy work locations, yet many skill point challenges are located right there in town. It’s a silly point to make (i admit) against an even sillier argument.
Though I didn’t have you in mind when I made these counterpoints, I’m fine that you brought them up.
Graphics issues dealing with particle effects and such are really a non issue to me, thus I…never cared to bring them up in any discussion about 1v1 dueling.
I mention costume brawls because that is the closest thing we have to open world duels yet there are little to no instances of abuse reported as a result of costume brawl. Yet you could make the exact same claims for potential harassment about costume brawl. The potential most definitely exists, but just because the potential exists doesn’t mean it is a common occurrence.
Yet those claims wouldn’t be possible because when was the last time you got spammed for a costume brawl invite?
Best as I can recollect, that can’t be invited like a guild invite or party invite.
The mechanism for initiating a duel that most champion, the invite, can be abused and potentially will.
" doesn’t mean it is a common occurrence." To some extent yes, however we’ve had plenty of evidence to contradict this.
Go back in the forums, look at when EoTM released. Look at how PvE’ers wailed upon the idea of continuing the Living Story in a PvP area.
Now look at the posts from PvP players who saw this as an opportunity for revenge or free bags.
Heck, just look at these three posts together about farming PvE’ers
You can’t honestly believe that your PvP community will see this as only a chance to have friendly rivalry fights with one another. The dregs of your side will see this as a chance to “stick it” to the PvE’er care bears.
Just go through the WvWvW threads about KTrain and how they despise that folks aren’t playing it “right” and how they revel in killing off players like that.
Now give them a chance to spam fight invites, it is Wintersday practically for trolls.
Of course, the natural defense is to decline. Why put yet another potential “no” button for a community of gamers that already have guild and party invites they either accept or decline?
Also yes it is only a simple click, when you aren’t otherwise engaged in events or mob fights. When you are spammed in the middle of a fight, it is irritating.
Surely we the players can utilize some neat feature that prevents such a thing from occurring? Well when ANet decides to put one in, after all this is the same company who took nearly over a year to get a freaking “last online” for guild management.
They have plenty of stuff to incorporate before they even think of making dueling a feature, let alone putting it in open world.
Finally, if you’re going to quote Colin, why don’t you use a quote from him about actual open world duels (linked on the firstt page) instead of extrapolating from an unrelated topic.
Because I’m using quotes to reinforce my original post’s intention: The game is built the way it is because otherwise these game modes would have been mushed together on Day one.
Fact is both communities squabble at each other like children who think the parents love the other more.
I would consider myself pretty bias towards implementing relatively unrestricted open world duels, but any suggestion to stick them only in WvW is a terrible idea. If you are in WvW you should be helping your server, not utilizing the only available location to duel. We already have the issue with WvW being the only real place for GvG. Add in duels and there would be very little actual WvWing going on in WvW.
How do you feel about that Jump Puzzle which has its own spot in WvWvW?
They could do something like that. Have a dueling paradise styled like the Queen’s Jubilee arenas, the Bane, or maybe a creation completely different aesthetically.
Whenever I recommended WvWvW, it wasn’t just “plunk it down there” or expect you to duel in Stonemist. I’ve always liked the idea that there’s a separate place in there for dueling which doesn’t hurt your server. After all isn’t the Mists a place of eternal battles, bloodshed, and glory?
pay an additional fee to add it to an already owned product. This is not opinion, this is fact. It’s one of the basic tenants of economics. It’s called demand.
