Guild Wars 2

So, this is a REALLY quick list / guide of things you can do at 80!

Keep in mind this isn’t really ALL there is to do at 80—if I missed something, suggest it and I’ll add it! Some of these ARE things you can do pre-80, but they’re things that you may have overlooked on the trip during. POSSIBLE MINOR SPOILERS.

So You’re Level 80: A Quick n’ Dirty Handbook to Endgame in Guild Wars 2
(in no particular order)

*1. Grind Ectoplasms!
WHAT: You must have ectoplasms. Ghost Busters! These ectoplasms are invaluable.
HOW: Forging items in the Mystic Forge, and breaking them down with Master’s Salvage Kits … or even by purchasing them with cold, hard coins. The formula is below.
#a. sell 1-80 blues and 1-69 greens/yellows/exotics for cash;
#b. combine 70-80 greens for yellows or extra greens to save to try again;
#c. break down ANY 70-80 yellows,
and
#d. sell 70-80 exotics that sell for above 25s. Under 25-silver tends to make them more worthwhile to break down.
WHY: Ectoplasms help create the creme de la creme of GW2 gear: crafted, exotic level 80 gear—the top-tier stuff in the game comparable to any other 80 exotic-tier item in the game — I.E.: the Draconic heavy armor set — that you can craft yourself or hire a friend or guildy to create for you. The best jewelry and trinkets, weapons, armor, and upgrade components CAN be crafted and DO compete with the best gear available. Ectoplasms, and these gear pieces also sell for a pretty copper (and by ‘copper’ I mean ‘oodles of gold’), once you’re exotic’d out.

2. Craft Legendaries!
WHAT: Crafting legendaries (red-tier items).
HOW: Buy or farm materials, particularly the 80 exotics, the fine materials, and base materials and farm karma. There are many guides available online. Browse around!
WHY: Looks and the right to brag, mostly. They’re only comparable to all other 80 exotics in terms of stats, so beware!

3. Map Completion!
WHAT: Complete the map, zone by zone.
HOW: Run around the map, complete every heart / POI / Waypoint / Vista and Skill Challenge in each zone. Even the PvP zone.
WHY: Not only does each zone of the map give a LOT of coin (10-50 silver per, depending on the level range), it also gives two items (typically rare or exotic) and zone-level material rewards in a stack of 40, plus one rare item that you can usually only get from story steps or the Black Lion Trader, as well as a chunk of story experience. 100% Map Completion is a large sum of coins, XP, exotic items and a crafting material for a LEGENDARY item.

4. Farm!
WHAT: Farm! Just farm! Farming involves the repeated slaughtering of innocent monsters such as the level cave trolls in Frostgorge Sound, or whatever you can handle. You still get level 80 items (greens, blues, yellows…) and any level materials relevant to your farming zone of choice.
HOW: You pretty much just go kill anything in the world endlessly. As much as you want; magic find and gold find gear like Omnomberry Bars] will improve your farm rate. Magic Find Boosters are also a boon if you think you’ll be at it for, say, 45-60+ minutes!
WHY: You gain coins, items of all varieties/levels and tiers, materials and experience out the wazoo. This can help you acquire etoplasms and cash.

5. Grind for Karma!
WHAT: Karma! It’s Karma! You should know this by now…
HOW: Karma Boosters and completing hearts and events in lower level zones, and repeatable events in Orr!
WHY: Karma Items from karma vendors, Legendary materials, and other goodies you can only get with karma!

6. Acquire Skillpoints!
WHAT: Unlock skill points.
HOW: Skill challenges on your map in zones, and XP post-80 goes towards a skill point anew.
WHY: Some legendary materials and other Mystic Forge items can be bought with skill points only.

7. Grind for Gold & Gems!
WHAT: Gems can be used to buy things ONLY purchasable on the Black Lion Trading Company store.
HOW: Commerce Panel (‘O’ key) -> Currency Exhange tab. Watch the exchange ratio like a hawk and strike when you can buy low and sell high. You can even get gold in a pinch by selling gems instead of buying them, however they were acquired.
WHY: You don’t ever have to spend a real dollar on gems on this game past the box fee if you do! You SHOULD. But you don’t HAVE to.

8. Craft!
WHAT: Get one/both your primary and secondary crafting professions up to 400/400.
HOW: Using materials from your 80 funds and farming, craft things you have and discover things you don’t. Crafting Boosters can help you or an alt plow through crafting and get a LOT of XP.
WHY: You can supply crafted goods like armor and weapons, boxes and trinkets, upgrade components and more — to yourself, your alts, your guildies, friends or.. even strangers!

9. Achievement Points!
WHAT: Achievement Points are fun bragging rights.
HOW: Hero Panel (‘H’ key) -> Achievements and start going down the list. Some are account-wide and others are class-specific or gameplay type-specific. Some are repeatable, too!
WHY: Tell your friends you’ve got the most achievements and points! They’re like Steam Achievements or Xbox Live Achievement Points. It also boosts influence for the guild you are representing at the time of the unlock!

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There’s places/people to roleplay with in this game? Please tell me where!

Wonderful stuff. A lot of it is pretty much common sense, but written down in the list there’s so much to do. Sick of people kittening out the lack of end game two weeks from launch, there’s an insane volume of stuff to do.

Tarnished Coast (the server) has a bajillion RP guilds and RP hotspots! There are also several fansites dedicated to GW2 roleplay.

“WHY: The spoiler text I noted? It gives CRAZY GOOD rewards.”
You should, at least for now, edit your post.

WHY: Because the loot bags for personal story are bugged.

@Twaddlefish: Thank you so much! I agree—the game has volumes upon volumes of awesome things in it.

@Critwrench: Edited and credited. Thanks!

Why isn’t this stickied so we can just link it every time someone starts complaining about end game and nothing to do?

BTW, I would recommend adding obtaining the commander titles for WvW so you can lead squads, helping to level up a guild for storage/buffs/area events (feast, banners), claiming keeps for your guild in WvW for the status, hunting down all of the puzzles in the game and getting the achievements for them. And since you have Orr and decent cash generation, play the trading post.

17. World Bosses
There are tougher things in the world than the champion mobs that can be taken down by a good group.

18. 20 Slot Bags
Are you a bad enough dude to pay 10+ gold in materials to get your space? Multiply it by 4, you sissy. It’s no secret; storage on a single toon is expensive, and you’re not end-game until you’re swimming in space.

19. Commander Title
Nobody gives a crap about your achievements until they know you’re on the map, literally. Be the star of the show, no matter where you go, because you are the kind of badkitten that accumulates 100 gold and windmill slams it into a vendor.

Explorable dungeons, cool. Anything else actually fun? All I see is grind for this or that. I don’t want to do things over and over. Spvp is fun for a while, but to what end? Rank 80 pvp is just the same as rank 1, except with (I’m assuming) better players, which in time, won’t even be the case as anyone can get there with enough persistence.

bump for great justice.
awesome post!

Fantastic post! I’ll be favorite’ing this one and checking it daily to go through the list when I can’t figure out something to do.

+1 from me!

Awesome topic and advices. I’ve been level 80 for like 10 days now and I was lucky enough to fill my Hero Tab with level 80 exotic gear

So now, I’m concentrated on crafting legendaries! More spesificially, my first legendary greatsword, which would be Sunrise!

My world completion is at 83% and I have two necessary crafting professions for Sunrise leveled up to 400, armorsmithing and weaponsmithing. I also have 200 skill points, you know for what haha

I’ll take this month exploring Tyria up to 100% and then…FARMING! I’ll farm for 150-200 golds and it will take a month I think, I must finish farming before my exams start

Such a great game. WvWvW should mean more than just badges and is currently a weak part of endgame but, I know ANet will sort this out soon.

Nice. Thanks for the info

thank you for your valuable effort OP!

Magic Find:

You can buy Adventurer gear, but these are expensive and you get less of the other stats because the +MF is the primary attribute.

The best is to get 6 runes to raise your MF to 60% passive. (you can still eath omnomberry bars on top of this)

You can do so be getting 5 Superior Runes of the Pirate and 1 Superior Rune of the Traveler (or vice versa).

However the Pirate runes are currently worth 50% of the Traveler runes so 5 Pirates is a much better idea.

what: annoy whole zone populations
How: spamming “LFG(insert profession here)” do this 20 times a min
Why: Lack of a decent LFG system

seriously, this needs to be sorted, having to hang round either in the isntance zone or in LA instead of playing the game just so you can spend ages getting a group is how last gen MMOs did it, thought GW2 was more progressive than that.

Cameirus.8407:

what: annoy whole zone populations
How: spamming “LFG(insert profession here)” do this 20 times a min
Why: Lack of a decent LFG system

seriously, this needs to be sorted, having to hang round either in the isntance zone or in LA instead of playing the game just so you can spend ages getting a group is how last gen MMOs did it, thought GW2 was more progressive than that.

You do know this isn’t a game about specific professions, right? You’re able to go into a dungeon with five of the same professions and still be able to beat it with no more difficulty than other compositions.

“Bring the player, not the class.”

@Almond Most annoying thing ever. You sound like a WoW player. Your saying that dungeons and map exploration is boring/grinding? Honestly this grinds my gears so much. A lot of WoW players are complaining that getting gear with looks isn’t enough. I really don’t understand. The stats at 80 are balanced so they don’t matter, and DPS Isn’t a mechanic of the game so stats basically become arbitrary numbers.

So… lemme summarize it.
Q: What do I do @ lvl 80?
A: Grind [insert grind oject here].

Right.

I’ll just leave this here.

http://guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/80-things-do-level-80

Sure, the word "grind" can be applied to many of them, but that’s just in your mind. In another person’s mind it’s actually called adventure.

Asthenea.1546:

@Almond Most annoying thing ever. You sound like a WoW player. Your saying that dungeons and map exploration is boring/grinding? Honestly this grinds my gears so much. A lot of WoW players are complaining that getting gear with looks isn’t enough. I really don’t understand. The stats at 80 are balanced so they don’t matter, and DPS Isn’t a mechanic of the game so stats basically become arbitrary numbers.

QFT.

What people from WoW have yet to understand is that you dont get ‘better’ by increasing your ‘numbers’ again and again and again and again. This leads to where people are getting stupid amounts of health, damage etc etc. This means more balancing and makes the community ‘stat-centric’. that is, if you dont have the required gearscore, you arent going.

Here in GW2, its reasonably easy to get close to ‘max stats’ within a few hours of hitting 80. You wont quite have max stats, but you’ll be close enough to do most of the dungeons.
However, you’re still going to get one shot by abilities in those dungeons. Why? Because this is a skill based game. You need to dodge important abilities, combo with each other, use your heal at the right time etc.

Im level 80 all in rares, and working on exotics, and i went and ran AC with a bunch of my lower level mates, and it was tough, and i loved it.

My version of fun isnt one shotting everything because i grinded out tons of stuff for the uber equipment. Mine is having prettykittengood equipment and having fun with my mates in challenging situations.

2c

I spent 59.99+tax for a game that gave me tons of value from 1-80 (I spent 150 hours, pve). IMO anything after 80 is just replay value and icing on the cake. It’s foolishly greedy and prickish to be complaining about free shiznit (exotic grinding, map completion, WvWvW, spvp, alting etc…) that you don’t have to participate in. Call it grind, call it boredom blah blah blah…. If you only bought this game for the “endgame” then you already failed to begin with.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

There’s places/people to roleplay with in this game? Please tell me where!

Tarnished Coast, namely the Busted Flagon in the evening. That should get you started.

For some reason it wouldn’t let me edit anymore, and my placeholder posts are still unable to be edited, so I’ll have to post my updates here for now. I merged a couple posts, started on some format cleanups and credited folks for some major updates to the guide!

*10. World vs. World/sPvP!
WHAT: World vs. World does get marginally easier with higher-level gear, but it isn’t game-breaking. World versus World pops up from your ‘B’ key menu, and Structured PvP is accessed from your Hero panel (‘H’) key -> PvP tab -> “Go to the Heart of the Mists.” WvW has exquisite fine and crafting materials, PvE mobs to kill, players to fight against for the obvious added fun of player vs. player combat, structural damage and sieges, and guerrilla combat or mass warfare. The choice is yours! Structured PvP is fun and has unique rewards from Glory, which you can make great use of Glory/PvP Boosters, here. It also seperates your skills, gear and traits from WvW and PvE… it is its own game type! WvW even gives a lot of karma, and Badges of Honor (PvP currency).

*11. Grind for Pact (Vigil, Durmand Priory & Order of Whispers), Tier 1, 2 & 3 Cultural Gear!
Cultural Armor & Weapons and Pact Armor & Weapons. You’ll need, in most cases, LOTS of gold. Some weapons can be bought with karma, but armor cannot… such is the price, as they are some of the coolest-looking items in the game and have 80 exotic stats for most of the items. It also gives you achievement points, one batch of points is given once for a single item from a race’s cultural armory (but only once, for example—get a sylvari shoulder, 5 achievement points for a piece of sylvari cultural. But you CANNOT unlock the Emperor’s New Wardrobe achievement with a full set of cultural gear from one race. It must be from all FIVE races.)

*12. Dungeon Exploration!
Dungeons have Story and Exploratory Modes. Some waypoints and Points of Interest are ONLY available in dungeons and their story or exploratory modes, and Exploratory Mode paths reward fantastic loot and tokens. Both modes have achievement points and XP (for skill points) rewarded en masse.
Complete a Story Mode Dungeon, and/or go with friends who have completed Story Mode to run Exploratory Mode. Only one person has to complete Story Mode to unlock Exploratory Mode for all, but you must be at-level for Exploratory Mode regardless if your state of completion of its story (typically +5 to the story, as in Ascalanian Catacombs Story Mode is 30, while its exploratory mode is 35).
NOTE: Dungeon tokens can be used for rare, exotic armor and weapons you can transmute for appearance, or use for stats. Or both! Not to mention the XP (for skill points), item and currency rewards!

*13. Help People!
Helping people across the map and in WvW can net you karma, coins, XP, materials, a variety of items, notoriety (as in being known as a nice person!) Wander the maps. Run dungeons with guildies, friends and strangers. You can also get map completion done, earn currency and rewards, and more!

I wish there was something to do in the endgame that involved something other than grinding or making a new character. Hopefully they add some high end dungeons like GW1 had.

*14. Work On an Alt!
WHAT: Level your >80 alternate characters for extra coins, Achievement Points, and even more. As for how, that should be obvious… I’d hope. How’d you get to 80 on THIS toon? This option gives you extra coins, Achievement Points, and materials and more!

15. Finish Your Personal Storyline!
Your personal story has an end to it. Wanna know a secret about the end of the storyline that you’ll wanna know before you run Arah?
Your final story mission has you actually go to kill Zhaitan. You MUST get to this final story step before running Arah or you will have to run Arah Story Mode again to receive your final reward.
There are five or so level 80 story missions to proceed through as per normal.
The spoiler text I noted? It gives CRAZY GOOD rewards (typically). *BAGS MAY POTENTIALLY STILL BE BUGGED AT THE TIME BEING, but ANet is undoubtedly working on a fix as soon as possible. (Thanks, Critwrench!)

*16. Roleplay!
WHAT: …role…play? You probably know what this is. ;P
HOW: Act in-character in a roleplaying situation!
WHY: It’s fun! You don’t even have to be good at it—you just have to enjoy it!

*17. World Bosses
There are tougher things in the world than the champion mobs that can be taken down by a good group. (Thanks, Viking!)

*18. 20 Slot Bags
Are you a bad enough dude to pay 10+ gold in materials to get your space? Multiply it by 4! It’s no secret; storage on a single toon is expensive, and you’re not end-game until you’re swimming in space. (Nice descriptors. Thanks, Futbot!)

*19. Commander Title
Being on the map makes you the star of the show, no matter where you go, because you are the kind of badkitten that accumulates 100 gold and windmill slams it into a vendor. (Thanks, Futbot!)

*20. Boost your Magic Find!
You can buy Adventurer gear, but these are expensive and you get less of the other stats because the +MF is the primary attribute.
The best is to get 6 runes to raise your MF to 60% passive. (you can still eath omnomberry bars on top of this)
You can do so be getting 5 Superior Runes of the Pirate and 1 Superior Rune of the Traveler (or vice versa).
However the Pirate runes are currently worth 50% of the Traveler runes so 5 Pirates is a much better idea. (Awesome guide here. Thanks, Keops!)

*21. Exotic Up!
Every single item in your Hero Panel can be made exotic (with the exception of your backpiece, which only goes up to ‘Rare’ from the guild armorsmith vendor). Work towards a full set, or even TWO full sets, of exotic armor packed with Superior Runes; get some exotic trinkets with top-tier jewels, and get the best weapons to fill your weapon slots stacked with the hottest Superior Sigils.

As you can see, the game is just as fresh and awesome as soon as you reach level cap and there’s more to do even over what I’ve just listed. There is a LOT to do—more than just this list of reasons! You could even hang out and chat—it’s a free to play MMO world with free reigns.

I don’t always powerlevel to endgame…
…but when I do, I make sure it’s in a game where there’s actually stuff to do.

Stay 80, my friends.
-Runo

Thanks for posting this Reno and also for the other people who added things. I knew about some of these but had questions on others.

I have been lvl 80 for two weeks and still find that when I log in I have multiple things to do. My biggest challenge is figuring out what I want to do that night. Found a fun guild so its a) hang out with guildies, b) finish another step in my personal story (nope have not finished it yet), c) go into WvW solo or with guild, d) finally do SPVP (nope have not had one match yet. have not had time), d) work on map completion of a zone, e) do a dungeon run, f) craft, g) and so on.

I will not name the game but there is another big title that came out within the last year that truly did not have end-game and became boring. Arenanet’s has said repeatedly that end-game begins at lvl 1. Somehow they have managed to give us more content at lvl cap than some other MMOs. Also, they are already talking about “free” content updates which is exciting to me.

They also have shown responsiveness and sound patch management. Not just bug fixes but adding of enhancements. I have seen some valid suggestions for improvement to DE and dungeons. Have total confidence that Arenanet is listening and will address those shortly as well.

Overall, this game remains fun for me even at the lvl cap. My only negative is that I can’t seem to stop playing. I am serious. I still sneak in lunch playtime and stay up late. While this is not unusual for me with a new game, by now, I expected that it would have worn down a bit.

Since Anet stickied this I can only assume they endorse it. A 9 part list that boils down to two things, grinding and crafting. This in a game that was advertised as the anti-grind MMO and they consider crafting to be end game content. I expected more from a company that stated their goal as wanting to make the best MMO ever.

This thread is amazing thank you Runo!

Please take this as nothing more than constructive criticism. If people have concerns about lack of end game, it’s because there is. Much of what is listed here is either common sense, or it is indeed a grind. You can accomplish much of this here from any old MMORPG free or paid that you pick off the shelf or a website.

Keywords like Endgame are code-name for grind fests. Most MMOs out there are grind fests so this isn’t a knock on GW2 specifucally at all. I was a big GW1 fanboy, primarily for it’s PvP and primarily for RA/HA. In my opinion, GW1’s PvP was ground breaking, unmatched til this very day. GW2 sadly is a different story.

GW2 is BEAUTIFUL I am blown away by the graphics, however, there’s no soul to it, no purpose. What are you supposed to do after you “grind”, “farm”, “achieve” and “acquire” yourself all out?(these are your own words)

The ideal MMO should not have an endgame, it should be an on-going adventure. And no.. completing the same event over and over is not an adventure.

The name of this game is Guild Wars. As I walk around the beautiful landscape, I can’t help but wonder how much more GW2 could be. How hard is it to implement a Party vs Party PvP option so players could fight it out right in the middle of no where.. or everywhere. With all the beautiful cities/housing structures throughout the land, why can’t there be non-instanced housing? Perhaps a mix of non-instanced/instanced. Perhaps guilds could take over cities and actually use/live in them. Perhaps doing so can spark unique events, or affect taxes for merchants within the BLTC.

These are all ideas off the top of my head that really don’t seem that difficult to implement at all. I do thank you for the time you’ve put into the post but I’m also partially concerned that _Arena_net has thought this to be sticky-worthy. Perhaps, they feel this is a good list of ideas to kill time now, but I do hope there’s bigger plans for this game in the future.

I still think Gw2 need something like expansions to survive… i think so hard PvE like in WoW would make it. Like some hard bosses and even more dungeons!

Amen to miracle’s reply! I am not interested in grinding, getting better gear/crafting once I have all the stats i want and magic find gear and tier 3 look that i want. After that, (of course that still is a lot of work), what to do? I have chilled and explored my way up to 80 and crave things like beautiful scenery, feeling free, interacting with people, helping npcs and players alike and loving the world around me. What I mean is soul in the game, the ongoing journey, adventure, exhiliration, fun. My goals do not revolve around real serious game goals but i seek the living out the game part, which to me is what mmorpg should feel like. So at the moment i am a little bored, but i can’t wait for updates, like new maps because there are tons of teasers, like locked gates and walls, invisible walls, npcs with teaser responses… and of course more elder dragons. So I hope it’s soon that we can explore and get more. Things are getting repetitive. Still, the players you can interact with can still be a lot of fun ^^

Helping players and role playing sound more like something that would bring more life to my experience, so I’ll be doing that. Question for RP, is it only in specific servers? or do people do it in every server but I just dont know about it. Maybe I should be checking out certain parts of these forums? Does anyone have any more ideas and creative things we could do if we are not farming, gear/gold stocking, pvping, in general, gaming seriously?

I think the end-game is crap.. Sure, there are things to do like crafting, explorable and stuff but its all the same. Farming for gear, well, the only thing gear does is looks.. All the legendary/exotics have the same stats. If you want awesome looks you van buy templates like Primeval or krytan in the gem store.

As for farming gold and stuf, its nice to have 50+ gold, but you can’t do kitten with it when you have max armor and your crafting at max level. So then what? Buy mini-pets in the gem store? Not the kind of thing I’d like to do at level 80.

Dont get me wrong I really like guild Wars 2 and I still have a few alts to level, but end-game is important to! So I hope Arenanet is working on this or else I think a lot of players will stop playing.

Just got to lvl. 80 and I am still confused about my gear. Could someone please explain it slowly for newbies again what Tiers of gear there are and how they rank cost-wise? Like what would be the first thing to look for now that is easy to get and then what would I try to get after that.

Right now, I read here about Ectoplasm (didn’t get what OP tried to explain there and can’t find it in the wiki), racial armor, exotic gear… what’s the gear you get in dungeons? what’s crafted gear like? I hoped this thread would answer these questions but it’s written in a way that is not very helpful for newcomers.

So, could anyone please elaborate further what gear there is and what I need to get it?

question (to avoid a new topic):

i’ve already got a full exotic armor set. now i just have to go for my exotic weapons (going to get one of them from a dungeon) and trinkets.

is there any place i can use my karma to obtain those? because really, i have like 90k karma and no use for it. the stats i wanted weren’t available on the Orr armor vendors, which is why i had to buy them with good ol’ gold (or get from dungeons).

So what should I do… if….

• I don’t need exotic armor because green armor is good enough
• I don’t want legendaries because I don’t want to look like a clown
• Got tired of map completion by Lv 55, and don’t need any of the map rewards
• Farm… why would I want to do this. So boring. And I don’t need any of the rewards, I got more money and junk than I use.
• Why grind for karma since I already have so much unused? I never see a need to use it.
• Don’t need skillpoints since I don’t need legendaries
• Grind money for gems? Wow, that’s just silly. I already have so much money to buy gems with, even considering the money I gave away to lower-level friends and all the super expensive things I didn’t need but gave away instead of selling.
• Craft … I outleveled my crafting by Lv 20, it was only a waste of time for me. Plus I already have so many crafting friends, I’d rather give them my materials for free instead of using them myself then needing to buy more.
• Achievement points.. I don’t like to show off. Guild doesn’t need influence for anything, or at-least nothing I want or need.

WvW is bugged, and dungeons are easy even with pick up group.

What to do >_<

Very good summary!

Number 4 got me banned. For no apparent reason, they thought I was botting but I wasn’t I was just farming for mats MANUALLY. But got banned, no warning whatsoever. :T

lorazcyk.8927:

• I don’t need exotic armor because green armor is good enough
  >_<

You realise there is a big difference betweem rare and exotic let alone masterwork → exotic

Ask urself what u want out of a game? I like the fact that u now have spvp and worldpvp. I can do sieges when i want or just random pvp when i want, i can also farm when i feel like doing so. PVE content can only take u so far before it gets the same. In all MMO’s u can do all the quests, complete everything, have the top gear. Only difference is the amount of time u have to spend for it.

GW2 has the coolest thing ever, and thats balance. Everybody can kill everybody, no real fotm. This makes and keeps pvp challenging.

And about endgame content pve-wise; they’re always adding new stuff. And every MMO is a grindfest… some just take more grinding.

So ask urself, what do u want out of a game?

So six out of the nine things I can do at endgame involve farming/grinding. Fantastic.

please can anyone help me i have hit 80 and i am a thief dual dagger and dual pistol i have 1 part of aurora the legs, can anyone tell me what stats i should be looking at ie how much power, precision, crit, vitality, condition and health i should be looking to get please.

The “endgame” is supposed to be the END OF THE GAME. This manual is about AFTER the endgame. Tell me how to get to Zhaitan if you’re going to call it “endgame”. Heck, just tell me how to get through Straits of Desolation without dying 10 times an hour.

My father used to hate it when I said I was bored and had nothing to do. He’d love to point out allllll the things I could be spending my time doing. And he was right. What he failed to separate is the difference between having something to do just for the sake of having something to do, and doing something that grabs my attention and makes me want to do it (whether it be for the reward, to see what happens next, or just because the act itself is so exciting). I’m hoping they can create changes and/or content that the game makes me want to do. It may not, and hey I’ve enjoyed my $60 worth so no complaints, but I did make great friends on here and would love to have something interesting to do with them again.

Summary: having a laundry list of things you can do, by the very fact that I have to find one, means there’s probably something missing (obviously based on personal preference).

1) Did so in no time, sitting on full exotics.
2) They look horrible and are even worse to obtain, really a mayor let down for me personally.
3) Done.
4) For what? Lol nothing I need, I am saving oris to make some mystic forge rare skins but not exactly farming them just getting them off savage lol.
5) Got over 200k karma and 19 liquid karma sitting in my inventory. Wut I want it for…no idea, temple armor? Done. Ingredients? Bought 250+ of each. Weapons? <_< I thought of it but my race got the lamest skins…well second lamest norn t3 are just overly bad designed.
6) Got over a hundred.
7) For what lol?
8) Done with every discipline i want/need.
9) Is what I do these days.
10) Got every banner in my logging screen, every chive and the armor is not tradeable so I lost faith in buying pieces from each faction to make some sexy look!
11) Been doing that…not enjoying it at all.
12) Always happy to help, but people need to learn to help themselves first.

I may sound negative but is reality lol. Yet I will add a , mystic forge got a set of weapons with very interesting skins. I would suggest aiming for those for the people who don’t like/care about legendary gear.