Guild Wars 2

I have already stated before why Cantha and Elona are crucial expansions to this game, but I am just stopping by to keep supporting this thread.

Cantha is a MUST! A very large portion of the community agrees as you can see with this thread! PLEASE don’t let this opportunity slip away! Cantha was always my favorite continent and it would be such a shame to not include it in GW2!

+1 Cantha/Elona! ^^

ArenaNet could not afford to leave us without Cantha!
  to be so serious the great disappointment of this game since most are delighted with the gameplay of Cantha

Once again coming out to show my support, Cantha was huge to me when I played the original Guild Wars 1. Ever since GW2 was announced I was hoping to see it recreated with the z-axis gameplay and graphics in Guild Wars 2. I hope that Arenanet introduces new areas but I also strongly hope Elona and Cantha make a return.

I started playing guild wars because of Cantha. Not being able to see it in guild wars 2 would be really disappointing for me.

It’s arguable that the Cantha lore and setting is actually better than the Ascalon/Kryta lore and setting. Regardless, both Cantha and Elona are unique while Kryta is kinda generic. Omitting either would be a huge mistake.

I have to say imo, Cantha or the “Factions” story line was the most rich and fun story line to me in the GW world. Would be a true shame if we never got to step foot onto cantha again. Granted there are TONS of other areas i want to go to. Cantha has to be the number one

I want to picket NCSoft until they allow ArenaNet to re-write canthan culture/gameplay back into the mix

Cristobal.8640:

Imbecile business decision-makers, listen to this:

When we say we are tired of asian bullkitten we mean anime looking characters, exagerated weapons and overly flashy skills. We mean we are tired of all the tropes and conventions found in asian mmorpgs.

We do not mean we don’t want an in-game civilization that is based on real world Asia.
Asian cultures provide some of the most aesthetically (If not the most) interesting architecture, landscapes, clothing… etc.

So yeah, get your crap straight.

^This…and I hate using “^This”

Unfortunately GW2 has, so far, done exactly that. Barbie female options, rediculously flashy weapons and armor(for a GW heir), and fighting in even a small group is like being at a disco while on LSD. And the unique human cultural distinctions they had in GW1 are pretty much gone.

There are parts of the game that are very well done, but the overall sugar-coated, circus-feel of GW2 is over-bearing.

I really want to see Cantha make a return someday. I’d especially love to see the Tengu able to return home!

I guess the best way to get us heard is trough our money.

I’d gladly pay for a Canthan expansion. I payed for the first one, and I loved it, why I shouldn’t do it again now that I know and like Gw2?

I never played Guild Wars 1. Actually I started but very late. So I quit very fast. Now I play Guild Wars 2 like 10 hours a day and I know so much about Guild Wars 1 lore. Cantha sounds so amazing. I’d very much like for it to make its way back to Guild Wars 2 so I can experience it as well.

Well a “universal” theme tends to stay in the “lame” theme.
What’s wrong with having a more Arabian part of the map or a more European Side of the map? Personally, I don’t see a problem unless stereotypes are thrown in or partial based inaccuracies.

Cantha was my favorite because it’s when I started playing GW- there were things I hated about it but in all I liked it. It would be a shame if something like that wasn’t added.

BUT GW2 is still ‘new’ and growing and Expansions will come!!

I will love to see Cantha in GW2. As Well as Elona. Some rumors says no expansion will be released. I hope it’s wrong.

Doofus sheepishly enters the stage fully dressed in Canthan robes (and some huge fluffy slippers) waving a large sign which has been lovingly daubed with ‘GO CANTHA GO! GIVE US OUR CANTHA!’

Please bring back cantha, the story was amazing and really brought alot of fun mechanics and i would love to see whats happened to the kurzicks and the luxons and definatly see the forest growing again and the sea water.

Posting once again to show that I’m still interested in seeing good ol’ Cantha make some kind of return. And if they decide to block Elona, I’ll pee kittens. With spikes. Don’t make me (or others) pee spiked kittens. It’d be painful.

Edit: This thread should be stickied too.

What if the reason behind the “we ran out of time” reason given for the dropping of Tengu as a playable race is the same as that behind the sinkholing of the Canthan District in Divinity’s Reach?

I do not understand the fuss of no “Asian” content. There is no Asia on Tyria. Someone has said that before and I will say it again. Also I loved Cantha in GW1 and would very much like to see it again – My second home was on the Jade Sea and exploring Kaineng. Other games have done Asian themes beautifully and tastefully. AoC for one was wonderfully done.

Bring back Cantha

As time goes by, it’s going to make less and less sense to avoid Cantha. ANet has two options:

1) Tell NCSoft to feline themselves sideways with a live chicken, break free from them, and make the Cantha expansion.

2) Destroy Cantha, letting players discover that all that remains are scattered islands populated by horrified survivors that the Deep Sea Dragon keeps around as pets/bonbons.

I’m hoping for Option #1. I don’t think GW2 will do well in China, and that means it will land on NCSoft’s chopping block. Cut free and stand on their own is the best option.

Adding my +1 for Cantha

Whilst there are other places i would rather see prior to Cantha (Crystal Desert and other areas of this content for example) It would be fantastic to see what the GW2 art team can do using this games engine with the Cantha continent.

Another +1 for Cantha from me.

Even tough I started a month or so after the release of Prophecies, and therefor it defines Guild Wars for me, I can’t think of a playable Tyria in GW2 without Cantha. Because of the new engine, Kaineng could be a really nice place to visit. Also, I wonder how the unpetrified Echovald Forest and the liquid Jade Sea look like nowadays.

Come on NCSoft, try to get a small team in ArenaNet working on a Cantha expansion!

+1 for Cantha
+999 fpr Elona

I’d love to see Cantha again. It was a creative and interesting setting, very different from the standard not!Europe setting common to western RPGs, and I’d love to revisit it in GW2. I appreciate the bone being thrown by making my human character of Canthan descent per my GW1 main, who was from Factions, but I’d happily pay for a full-on expansion returning to Cantha.

Obsidian.1328:

Cristobal.8640:

Imbecile business decision-makers, listen to this:

When we say we are tired of asian bullkitten we mean anime looking characters, exagerated weapons and overly flashy skills. We mean we are tired of all the tropes and conventions found in asian mmorpgs.

We do not mean we don’t want an in-game civilization that is based on real world Asia.
Asian cultures provide some of the most aesthetically (If not the most) interesting architecture, landscapes, clothing… etc.

So yeah, get your crap straight.

^This…and I hate using “^This”

Unfortunately GW2 has, so far, done exactly that. Barbie female options, rediculously flashy weapons and armor(for a GW heir), and fighting in even a small group is like being at a disco while on LSD. And the unique human cultural distinctions they had in GW1 are pretty much gone.

There are parts of the game that are very well done, but the overall sugar-coated, circus-feel of GW2 is over-bearing.

I don’t totally agree with you on this, because a lot of the options are not very cute lol. And GW1 always had flashy/sexy armor & weapons. I don’t think this makes it anime-like, though GW has always had a unique art style that blends western and eastern art themes together. But I do agree with you that humans need more to distinguish their cultural heritage than we currently have. I really hope that at some point they allow us to choose the heritage of our characters like they had originally intended, and that they do something with that because the different cultures are a massive part of what makes this IP interesting.

I would also like Cantha to make an appearance sometime in the future. It has enormous potential, you can introduce new races, new professions, expand the story and lore of the game, add new types of gameplay,etc. The Jade Sea and Echovald were among the best areas in GW1, next to Vabbi. I’d also like to know what happened with Master Togo, the luxons and kurzicks. I’ve read that they were conquered by Kaineng and that it was one nation now. That is really cool stuff, i would like to see that in the game.

Shanna.4762:

I really hope that at some point they allow us to choose the heritage of our characters like they had originally intended, and that they do something with that because the different cultures are a massive part of what makes this IP interesting.

Well, if you play a human, you are asked at some point by Thackeray about your nationality, and you can choose to answer ascalonian, krytan, canthan and elonian..if i remember correctly.

Raiyan.9140:

Shanna.4762:

I really hope that at some point they allow us to choose the heritage of our characters like they had originally intended, and that they do something with that because the different cultures are a massive part of what makes this IP interesting.

Well, if you play a human, you are asked at some point by Thackeray about your nationality, and you can choose to answer ascalonian, krytan, canthan and elonian..if i remember correctly.

That only happens in one of the story lines. I think it’s the “dead sister” one, which ends up being the most interesting story because of that one little bit.

Anet logic right here

Reminds me of chinese propaganda posters—-lol

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2013/03/09/Escape-From-A-Chinese-Propaganda-Mill/

Hello everyone! I would just like to thank you all for keeping this topic alive, I think it is truely awesome that it has been given so much support, you guys are epic.

Thinking about it more. This whole issue is ridiculous.

What is more racist?

A game representing a certain culture as a equal part of the main game with varied and balanced factions that are non racially biased?
OR
Pretending other cultures within humanity don’t exist.

Correct me if Im missing something here, because I cannot for the life of me, see strict Chinese censorship to go as far as demanding their own race to be removed from the game.

Factions was my favorite GW1 expansion. I’d be sorely disappointed if we never got to go back to Cantha.

i think right now nc soft just doesnt want cantha because of wows mist f pandaria so it doesnt look like there copying theme but in a few years they will see that we fans want cantha and it would be a great addition to the game

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Thinking about it more. This whole issue is ridiculous.

What is more racist?

A game representing a certain culture as a equal part of the main game with varied and balanced factions that are non racially biased?
OR
Pretending other cultures within humanity don’t exist.

Correct me if Im missing something here, because I cannot for the life of me, see strict Chinese censorship to go as far as demanding their own race to be removed from the game.

I think you might be one of the only few who aren’t blaming “strict Chinese censorship” for us not getting Cantha in the game. Some time ago, WoW players who wanted to see the Pandaren since their first expansion (Burning Crusade) blamed the Chinese law about Pandas not being allowed in displays of violence. That’s funny, because Perfect World, a well-known Chinese MMO has a bear-like race and the Panda happens to be available as an option for their appearance customization.

As for the Chinese to blame (again) for not wanting to see a mix of cultures; one can look to the game Might and Magic Heroes VI, in which there’s a heavily Japanese-themed race mixed with various Chinese philosophy and hero names. From personal experience, the Chinese community were a little disappointed with the lack of Chinese elements in a race representing the Asian culture, but that was it. They were actually disappointed with their culture not being represented enough, not the mix with Japanese culture. Still they played the game and enjoyed it. No censorship what so ever.

So guys, maybe (just maybe) someone in this industry may be a little racist doesn’t mean it’s the fault of the entire community. They want to see their culture represented in the game too, and are suffering because of decisions of the higher levels.

Just wanted to add my two cents in as well. I am all for Cantha coming back as well as Elona and the Crystal Desert.

Factions was the first GW game I got, and I fell in love and have been with the series ever since.

I also wouldn’t mind completely new areas either, but I dont think they should exclude all the past places either. They are too integral to the lore of the game.

Aaaaand here I am, back to the Cantha thread. Posted a couple times already…

At any rate, if any NCsoft executives are reading this…. STOP BEING LAME! This is the largest thread on the forums, the vast majority of which is screaming for Cantha to return. You’d be foolish to sack Cantha in the face of all these supporters. They’re just BEGGING to give you money.

I’LL GIVE YOU MY MONEY FOR CANTHA!!!

i am chinese and my 3 yr long girlfren is korean. this whole culture clash design is a whole load of kitten. there is nothing offensive about it, just want to play the game.

keep this trend until a cantha expension is out!!!

Please do bring Cantha back. It was an amazing place! Not only for the lore but also for the immersion. Same goes for Elona/Istan… It had such a different set of attractions and where immersive in a whole diferent way.

You truly felt like you where traveling within another world.

So to sum up: give us a WORLD. Not just one small piece of a single continent.

Cantha?? How much i would like to have Cantha back in the game, i would rather see Crystal dessert or Maguuma expansions or the Far shiverpeaks. Alot of the area stays untouched and ppl are already asking for expansions?? really?? Let them fill up this world first before we hit different/other continents.

Tyrian remaining areas may be FREE added areas. Or little cheap expansions (for adding Dragons). We are talking about Cantha, a big content expansion here.

Please put Cantha in the game. If some changes absolutely need to be made to Cantha due to cultural sensitivities, I don’t think that would be a problem for the players. I feel like Cantha would attract even more players to GW2; whereas Mists of Pandaria targeted a child audience and may have lost older players, Cantha could have a more general audience target. Personally I began to play GW1 more often because of Cantha. It offered more variety than the typical medieval theme most MMOs boast. The land was beautiful. The city was unique. While the city and undercity was difficult to traverse at times, I feel like GW2 gives the developers a chance to correct that issue Cantha had. The Canthan playable land and even the story lore has so much potential to be better represented in a game with more power behind it.

But as a joke, Master Togo’s voice should be left intact.

Faction was my first gw game, and somehow I feel like Cantha is my home in gw universe. I am playing gw2 awaiting for Cantha, but if it never comes I don’t see point for me to continue…. I am NOT saying to hurry up, I am just saying to put it, period.
(Preferably as first coming expansion)

Wow Anet must truly have stupid employees if they dont see this thread and think “maybe adding cantha mite be a good idea.”

Does Anet really have the time and money to put in Cantha or at least make a zone that is themed for Cantha? I would hope so.

Since Anet made the argument that Sylvari were not elves, why can’t they make up an argument that Cantha isn’t asian? Could it be possible to find some way to change Asian looking architecture to look more unique?

Did they really try to make Cantha disappear out of existence in GW2? Like it never happened?

^ I really don’t think changing any of that would be necessary. They may need to stick to a more uniform design, IE Chinese, Japanese, etc…But they don’t need to totally change the cultural inspiration or aesthetic.

And no they haven’t tried to make it disappear out of existence in GW2, either because it is mentioned by several NPC’s in cities, there are several characters in the story who are Canthan, and some of the ascended items are also Canthan artifacts. There are also very small “easter eggs” if you will through out the game, and during the Order of Whispers story arc that elude to the probability that Cantha is still there. There are a few prominent members of the human aristocracy (noble story arc) that are quite obviously Canthan, and one of Lions Arch’s most prominent families is also Canthan. They just might not ever bother to add it as a region, or add much of anything to do with it due to the silly and unfortunate decisions made a long time ago and this annoys the community a great deal. Cantha belongs in Tyria, in GW2, in all it’s oriental themed glory.

No Walking.6349:

Anet logic right here

Lmao!!

There are still Asian themed NPCs in game as well that originate from Cantha. There’s also a giant wall / gateway that leads to the Crystal Desert (part of Elona) so I’m very much hoping we get to revisit both Cantha and Elona in GW2.

Horrible business decision if they exclude either or both.

Shanna.4762:

^ I really don’t think changing any of that would be necessary. They may need to stick to a more uniform design, IE Chinese, Japanese, etc…But they don’t need to totally change the cultural inspiration or aesthetic.

And no they haven’t tried to make it disappear out of existence in GW2, either because it is mentioned by several NPC’s in cities, there are several characters in the story who are Canthan, and some of the ascended items are also Canthan artifacts. There are also very small “easter eggs” if you will through out the game, and during the Order of Whispers story arc that elude to the probability that Cantha is still there. There are a few prominent members of the human aristocracy (noble story arc) that are quite obviously Canthan, and one of Lions Arch’s most prominent families is also Canthan. They just might not ever bother to add it as a region, or add much of anything to do with it due to the silly and unfortunate decisions made a long time ago and this annoys the community a great deal. Cantha belongs in Tyria, in GW2, in all it’s oriental themed glory.

Your posts continue to impress me. I will not stop posting in here until we get confirmation of Cantha. So however long that takes I’ll be here. But back to the topic you are right they are not trying to hide it under the rug. There are even items like Kurzick Bauble that are a direct reference to items from GW1 – particularly Factions related.

Either way, whatever ridiculous decision lead them to think excluding Cantha and Elona were good ideas or business practical, then they need to seriously reevaluate those decisions because they are horrible ones.

The community wants these places to return in their original aesthetic and theme. maybe ask what’s her face from Nexon if making more money is a good decision and maybe then you’ll see adding Cantha is the right move.

ensoriki.5789:

Pongmei Valley and the Shin je mountains were the best things in GW1 except for maybe Tihark Orchard.
Then there was than Tengu mission with Togo in the Bonus mission pack? Those heights, that vista….
I never liked the tyria country wasn’t till factions that I really liked GW1 (surprised I even bought Factions considering how negative I felt about tyria at the time).
Itching to go back there hard.

Bonus missions did have great maps, not just the Cantha one.

It probaply won’t do a thing, but can’t we make a petition and send it to NCSoft?

wouw.5837:

It probaply won’t do a thing, but can’t we make a petition and send it to NCSoft?

In the video game industry there are only two things that can move a company to do something against its will: 1) money, and 2) bad publicity. And 2 isn’t even always a given; some companies welcome the challenge of spinning bad publicity into more sales.