Guild Wars 2

They would like to have a word with the devs regarding the Ready Up episode 15.
And since the ranger sub gets kindly avoided by the devs, I felt the need to remind them that there are people down there that care:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-Balance-Philosophy/first

Thank you for your attention.

That thread will never get any response, largely because it is exactly the kind of thread they have stated hundreds of times they will ignore. Many of those posts are crude and unconstructive and some are attacking devs. Getting a dev on board with discussion is only ever going to happen if the rules of conduct in posting threads is obeyed.

It is also a weekend and they are unlikely to see these forums until late Monday

I don’t want this thread to get response, I want the devs to actively read and think about the thread I’ve linked because it sums up the misconseption they made in the Ready Up episode nicely.

Well, they likely have already read it – they state they read most threads, but rarely post due to time or tone of many threads. It’s likely any point will have been made already, although the impact will have been massively lessened by some of the posts in that thread.

Doesn’t change the fact that rangers are well in the doghouse to put it lightly.

Devs avoided the topic created by themselves to talk about rangers, do you think that any other topic will be touched by a dev to actually say something besides “We are reading don’t worry” or “This topic are getting too many fight and will be locked” and so on?
Almost every post in the ranger CDI was from just a community manager that sadly is not even working at Anet anymore, answers and real feedback is something I don’t expect anymore about rangers.

Randulf.7614:

Well, they likely have already read it – they state they read most threads, but rarely post due to time or tone of many threads. It’s likely any point will have been made already, although the impact will have been massively lessened by some of the posts in that thread.

As an interesting sociological experiment check out Marvel Heroes where the creative director (colin equiv) is one of the most active posters on the forums responding to all manner of player posts. The net effect is one of the most healthy player communities I have experienced, right up there with lotro. Marvel Heroes has actually had the opposite trajectory to GW2. MH’s launch was a disaster and the game was not even coherent. GW2, at launch was one of the best games I ever played. I understood the manifesto and that this was a very different game. MH though began getting seriously better over time while GW2 floundered and moved further and further from its founding philosophy.

And, with MH you even have none other than David Brevik streaming MH gameplay a couple nights a week with his wife. It’s hard to properly understand the importance of Brevik in gaming history. For those who know the history he didn’t exactly invent the ARPG but he did define it for a generation of gamers with Diablo. It’s pretty wild watching someone like Brevik, now CEO, streaming gameplay. The contrast with GW2’s culture is dramatic.

So the interest is in how the company relates to the players. And, the best way to get it is to simply check it out. It’s worth it for the gaming sociology if for nothing else.

I don’t know which I like worse:

A) Anet’s communication with its beta testers which was essentially “if you’re going to be so critical then we simply won’t talk to you”.

or

B) Anet’s current communication strategy which essentially amounts to “SMOKE BOMB! (runs away)”.

i like my ranger it has a few builds
as for this thread it reminds me of a small human type of not so much age hopping up and down yelling look at me, and then you look over only to see a gesture which is most adequately defined as umm, yeah

I sure wish ANet had some people from Carbine. Namely communication. ANet is absolutely horrible at it. And don’t give me the “but the forums are mean”. Players can deal with it, so can they. Its their kittening job.

You are a bearbow .

What I find strange is that communication with developers in GW1 was vastly better than GW2. Anet really seems to have dropped the ball when it comes to community outreach. Ironically GW1 didn’t have official forums, so if a developer was going to respond it was on a handful of scattered fan made forums. Now they have their own forums and don’t use them like they should.

Hi, Ranger Subforum.

You guys think that the ranger subforum is avoided, go to the dungeon sub the last dungeon related dev post is nearly 2 years old.

funkylovemonkey.3097:

What I find strange is that communication with developers in GW1 was vastly better than GW2. Anet really seems to have dropped the ball when it comes to community outreach. Ironically GW1 didn’t have official forums, so if a developer was going to respond it was on a handful of scattered fan made forums. Now they have their own forums and don’t use them like they should.

And Gaile Grey came to LA or Kamadon on a regular basis and talked with the community. Have to agree, GW’s communication with it’s player base was much better than GW2. But then again, most of the GW devs are not with Anet anymore.

Yeah rangers got a CDI, but that ready up essentially showed that they didnt read any of it, or take much of it int account.

Also… there is literally zero evidence in patches since the CDI that the CDI had any impact whatsoever.