Would you pay a subscription to play GW2?

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Posted by: Sky.7610

Sky.7610

If this game was subscription based, would you be willing to pay to play this game monthly? Why or why not?

Do you think GW2 would have flopped if it was launched as a subscription game?

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Posted by: Shanna.4762

Shanna.4762

Personally I’d be willing

I think it would of done well for 2-3 months and then dropped off significantly in player subscription retention because that’s just how it goes these days, that model doesn’t last these days. Anet was really smart to go with this B2P model

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Posted by: Silvery Shadow.5036

Silvery Shadow.5036

No…don’t play any MMO with monthly subscription. It’s the main reason I play GW (1 or 2).

But for your last question…probably not…why would it be a flopped ?

But a question of my own…why are you even asking ?

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Posted by: Cordlessjoe.2415

Cordlessjoe.2415

hell no………

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Posted by: innocens.1582

innocens.1582

i dont know

i dont mind a monthly fee, but not everyone can afford that.
i think one of the big pro gw2 and gw1 things is its free to play.
A cool game and free to play, what more do you want

a man who doesnt make mistakes doesnt do anything

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Posted by: Karizee.8076

Karizee.8076

I think subscription fee games have gone the way of the dodo.

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Posted by: Cloud.7613

Cloud.7613

No, one of the main reasons GW2 is so attractive is due to the pay to play aspect. Also I don’t think I would pay monthly if a game didn’t have a strong active balance team. Just my opinion.

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Posted by: lothefallen.7081

lothefallen.7081

I absolutely, positively, would not play this game if it had a sub fee and this is coming from someone who played GW1 for close to 6 years.

I just feel like this game has nothing to offer anyone except casual gamers. The combat has little to no depth, there is no distinct role specialization, you can’t play a healer class, only one PvP mode, boring and horrendously built skill / trait system, grouping is semantic, shallow, and no content really supports or portrays depth to the gameplay systems. On top of this, the game lacks basic features that should have been in before launch and it also lacks social cohesion on many levels. Multi-guild was a mistake, removing the healer class was a mistake, designing encounters less intuitively than the first game was a mistake, and designing a completely vapid combat system was a huge mistake.

I enjoy this game for what it is, but i’ll never spend another dime on it and i’ve never spent in the cash shop because this game just feels and plays like a failure when i compare it to how much i enjoyed the depth and quality of GW1. Just my opinion.


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Posted by: Charming Rogue.8071

Charming Rogue.8071

Hell no. I would quit this game forever if it was subscription based. I wouldn’t mind paying to play gw1, but this game is nowhere near the quality of gameplay that gw1 had. It lacks SOOO much. But I’m sticking in there, hoping for the developers to come around. And keeping an eye on the game updates.

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Posted by: Taikanaru.5746

Taikanaru.5746

No. I never have paid a monthly fee for any game and never will.

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Posted by: Halanna.3927

Halanna.3927

No, I wouldn’t pay a subscription to play but that is because I have to buy gems in order to have any coin, at all. Without gems to gold, I would have already quit because it’s impossible to make coin.

So, no I wouldn’t let them double dip, sub + gem purchases.

If the economy was healthy and I could support myself through in game activities and not be forced to by gems, then I would pay a sub – but it’s one or the other.

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Posted by: Fernling.1729

Fernling.1729

I have no problem paying $15 a month for an mmo, did it with WoW and occasionally have to with Eve. I do not think GW2 is worthy of the $15 a month, its a decent game, but not worth more than the initial purchase price.

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Posted by: shambo.3842

shambo.3842

No. guild wars main selling point is no sub fee

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Posted by: Vorch.2985

Vorch.2985

I would not pay a sub fee for any game. Period.

<1200+ hours played.

Here’s what people thought of GW1 when it first came out: http://tinyurl.com/bntcvyc
“A release is 7 days or less away or has just happened within the last 7 days…
These are the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria.”

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Posted by: Tagus Eleuthera.7305

Tagus Eleuthera.7305

I might have at the start. I was playing another sub MMO that I quit to play GW2, so it would have made sense to do it then. Instead of paying for monthly fees I’ve bought gold a couple of times when I was nearing the completion of something and my time>money, so I’ve probably paid about the same as I would have with a sub.

That being said, I’d quit the game immediately if they ever tried to throw a sub at us. It would be a cash grab, and would pretty much tell the players that’s all they care about.

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Posted by: Kakeru.2873

Kakeru.2873

No, it doesn’t have enough staying power or content to be P2P.

It plays like a single player game that people can “beat” so ppl put it down and come back later, having no subscription mean ppl can come back to this single player whenever they want, if they want.

With a subscription people would beat it and never play it again.

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Posted by: Tagus Eleuthera.7305

Tagus Eleuthera.7305

That’s the problem… when compared to other sub games, this one doesn’t have a leg to stand on yet. Maybe someday it could potentially, but they’d have to do alot. The pressure is on those sub games to constantly compete for their subs… they can’t push updates back, over-promise, etc.

People will take a lot more from Anet without quitting because of it, imo. It’s a fantastic game, assuming no subs. Subs are a game changer.

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Posted by: MaRko.3165

MaRko.3165

One of the only reasons I’m playing this ‘mmo’ is that its subscription free. No interest in ‘rental ware’.

M.

“I was playing Farmville and a kitten MMO GW2 broke out of it…”
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Posted by: Dafomen.7892

Dafomen.7892

No!

SWG was the only game i payed (gladly) the monthly fee, because it offered a lot and GW2 doesnt even come close to that.
On the other hand GW2 is just perfect for a B2P game and I will most likely buy every expansion for it and some gem cards.
(But if there will be a level cap raise or further ascended-like gear “progression” I (as an avid GW1 fan) will quit GW2 completely.)

This won’t end well…

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Posted by: Chorel.1720

Chorel.1720

No!

SWG was the only game i payed (gladly) the monthly fee, because it offered a lot and GW2 doesnt even come close to that.
On the other hand GW2 is just perfect for a B2P game and I will most likely buy every expansion for it and some gem cards.
(But if there will be a level cap raise or further ascended-like gear “progression” I (as an avid GW1 fan) will quit GW2 completely.)

You may as well quit now because there most likely will be more gear progression in the game. It’s only a matter of time before we have ascended armor.

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Posted by: Toxyn.9608

Toxyn.9608

I would if a few things were changed:

Content released faster.
Bug fixes and Profession Balance taken seriously.
DR and Magic Find removed.
Boosters are removed from the gem store and the bonuses are balanced into the game normally.

“The fatal flaw in every plan is the assumption that you know more than your enemy.”

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Posted by: Darth Llama.9217

Darth Llama.9217

Absolutely not.

The only reason I even tried GW2 to begin with was the fact that there was no subscription fee.

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand Binary, and those who don’t.

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Posted by: Hellkaiser.6025

Hellkaiser.6025

No, reasons are numerous and well known. There’s no need to go over them again.

Irony…. xD

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Posted by: Tiger.7506

Tiger.7506

No interest in ‘rental ware’
WoW is a big joke.

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Posted by: OmniPotentes.4817

OmniPotentes.4817

No…..because the company simply does not deserve it!

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Posted by: Karizee.8076

Karizee.8076

Sub fee games like WoW are all about how to keep you paying longer with artificial gates like ilvl gates or reputation gates or OP trinkets with microscopic drop rates just to stretch out their meager content over the longest period possible.

I much prefer the B2P model where I can choose to support the game with gem purchases if I like the content they are giving me.

I probably dropped enough sub fees on other games to buy myself a new computer.
Never again.

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Posted by: Tiger.7506

Tiger.7506

Sub fee games like WoW are all about how to keep you paying longer with artificial gates like ilvl gates or reputation gates or OP trinkets with microscopic drop rates just to stretch out their meager content over the longest period possible.

Never again.

Yes . this is true.

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Posted by: StormageddonBK.9842

StormageddonBK.9842

Absolutely not, my wife would kill me… :P

Seriously though, if it were made p2p I’d go to another f2p game immediately or go back to single player rpg games and be done with MMO’s.

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Posted by: Art.9367

Art.9367

No, I would not. I think the biggest thing GW2 has going for it right now is the fact that it’s non-subscription based. If people get bored, they can take a break and then come back when they get an urge to play. During the Lost Shores release, they said they were running to 95% maximum data server capacity because so many people came back to check out the event. Now it’s just a matter of ArenaNet fully realizing/utilizing the Gem store to make a healthy profit without making it pay-to-win. So far they’ve been successful, but tournament tickets are in dangerous territory in my opinion.

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Posted by: Lord Kreegan.8123

Lord Kreegan.8123

If this was a sub-based game, I would have already voted with my wallet and left.

There are a lot of things that I like about the game, but its many bugs, broken mechanics, and balance issues would not be tolerable if I was paying a monthly subscription.

I expect any product I purchase to be finished and of high enough quality to warrant the price. GW2 is really at Beta-stage of development, good enough for a B2P business model, but not good enough for a subscription-based business model.

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Posted by: Tiger.7506

Tiger.7506

Sub fee games like WoW are all about how to keep you paying longer with artificial gates like ilvl gates or reputation gates or OP trinkets with microscopic drop rates just to stretch out their meager content over the longest period possible.
Never again.

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Posted by: ZeftheWicked.3076

ZeftheWicked.3076

If it was i sub-based game i would have voted with my walled and stayed:>

But Guild Wars 2 is a milestone in mmo gendre in equal part for it’s revolutionary approach to gameplay and revolutionary approach to payment. In time and age where games are shorter and shorter costing more and more, GW2 is the unmovable mountain that just stand in the way of this “progress” and does us all players a favor.

Because of that i would not agree to it being P2P. It’s comparable to what Final Fantasy 7 did for console asian rpgs – it opened the floodgates to the whole gendre to the west., as GW2 is now opening floodgates to true progression of the gendre both gameplay and payment model wise.

But there are still gems to get to thank arena.net for the awesome job:)

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Posted by: vespers.1759

vespers.1759

nope. wouldn’t play any p2p game.

Bristleback can’t hit anything? Let’s fix the HP bug instead.

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Posted by: penatbater.4710

penatbater.4710

No. Because I have no credit card, I move around alot so I won’t be able to play. =/

Don’t disturb me, I have a cat in me at the moment.

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Posted by: Kakeru.2873

Kakeru.2873

If it was i sub-based game i would have voted with my walled and stayed:>

But Guild Wars 2 is a milestone in mmo gendre in equal part for it’s revolutionary approach to gameplay and revolutionary approach to payment. In time and age where games are shorter and shorter costing more and more, GW2 is the unmovable mountain that just stand in the way of this “progress” and does us all players a favor.

Because of that i would not agree to it being P2P. It’s comparable to what Final Fantasy 7 did for console asian rpgs – it opened the floodgates to the whole gendre to the west., as GW2 is now opening floodgates to true progression of the gendre both gameplay and payment model wise.

But there are still gems to get to thank arena.net for the awesome job:)

Because GW2 was obviously the first Buy to play game and the first game to have action combat!……oh wait

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

Hell no. I would quit this game forever if it was subscription based. I wouldn’t mind paying to play gw1, but this game is nowhere near the quality of gameplay that gw1 had. It lacks SOOO much. But I’m sticking in there, hoping for the developers to come around. And keeping an eye on the game updates.

I played Guild Wars 1 for five years, and I laugh when people say stuff like this. Guild Wars 1 is lacking in some many things it obviously needs. Guild Wars 2 answers a lot of those questions.

We must be focused on completely different aspects of the game.

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Posted by: Nurse.1085

Nurse.1085

No.

And not because I have a problem spending $15 to play a game. It’s simply because there’s not enough order and balance to justify the $15.

Everything from a lack of Cosmetics/Skin variety, Legendary Precursor’s being the way they are, WvW Culling, lack of WvW Rewards and incentives, Zergy gameplay, lack of class balancing and the amount of “fluff” holiday content added amongst the other mountain of issues. /deep breath

But other than that, it was an enjoyable and worthy sixty dollar purchase and I look forward to seeing what happens in the future. It has a long way to go.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

I would not be playing. I love this game, and I would be deeply saddened if it went subscription. I will not pay a subscription for any game anymore, no matter how good it is.

With that being said, I wouldn’t mind a system where I can sign up for automatic withdrawal of X amount from my account every month and I get Y amount of Gems every month into my account. (Example, automatic withdrawal of $10 per month, and I get 800 Gems per month into my account) That would be just for convenience only though.

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Posted by: Iris.5918

Iris.5918

Absolutely not.
I’d rather stop playing then paying a monthly fee, whatever the game may be.

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Posted by: wildcode.5403

wildcode.5403

With the current loot issues I would not pay to play GW2. I do not mind spending a little with seasonal content but with loot issues making levelling characters a chore, or grinding for endgame gear much harder, gw2 would not get a subscription from me. I learnt my lesson from eve.

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Posted by: Mister Mustard.7203

Mister Mustard.7203

Nay.

I have no problem paying a subscription fee; Between Everquest 1&2, WoW, Rift, and a few other forgettable titles, I had an active MMO subscription for about 12 years.

But this game lacks a few things I would expect with a subscription, mainly multi-group pve content and not being subjected to other players hacking.

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Posted by: Jabronee.9465

Jabronee.9465

If this game was subscription based, would you be willing to pay to play this game monthly? Why or why not?

Do you think GW2 would have flopped if it was launched as a subscription game?

lol GW2 P2P? you gotta be kidding right?
Why not? Well i wont to lay it down cause most of our opinion WILL get Infracted or Removed if its not sweet melodies to the moderators ears.
In other words, let Anet do what ever they want as i’ve got my $60 worth of gameplay already.
But im sure i wont be getting the Expansions.
Its 2013… nuff said

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Posted by: arjeidi.2690

arjeidi.2690

Would I be willing to pay a $15/mo subscription for Guild Wars 2…

..if it had an MMO’s worth of content? Absolutely. I’m currently paying $15/mo for Gold on Champions Online (an optional subscription, what a novel idea) because the game, for my personal tastes, is absolutely worth it. Freeform character building is deep and rich and fun. If GW2 had content worth it, I’d happily pay a sub fee for me, my girlfriend, and my brother.

..as the game stands currently? No. The game doesn’t quite offer enough for my personal tastes, and the direction their once-a-month updates are going is not what I’m currently interested in.

GW2 is not currently worth a subscription. Maybe someday, but not now.

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Posted by: Fay.2735

Fay.2735

I would definitely pay subscription fee it’s worth it far more than any other MMO I played including WoW. Sadly I don’t have the money spare to do so.

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Posted by: morrolan.9608

morrolan.9608

Definitely not, however I would if they remove the RMT from the TP and made loot drops more reasonable.

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Posted by: ADFX.6179

ADFX.6179

NO. When game design changed to favor MMORPGs that play out like single player RPGs my spending habits changesd to favor MMORPGs that are payed for like single player RPGs…

In today’s market with todays’s games it is increasingly hard to justify paying a subscription when there is another game almost as good or better that’s F2P or Buy to play already there too.

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Posted by: Ed of Death.4819

Ed of Death.4819

nope. I just don’t think it’s worth a monthly fee.

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Posted by: Thereon.3495

Thereon.3495

Guild Wars 2, in its current state, no for a few reasons.

1) I personally feel it lacks the kind of end-game content required for a subscription model. I feel the boss encounters and the dungeons are enjoyable but arent of the standard required for me to shell out $15/£xx a month. That could change in the future however.

2) One of the reasons that subscription games worked was the added customer service you received as a paying customer. I personally feel that GW2 gives this good customer service at the moment for free, so there’s no need to pay for it in my opinion!

3) The subscription model is slowly dying and gradually id expect all MMOs to go buy-to-play. HOWEVER I do feel GW2 needs to take advantage of its gem store a lot more than its currently doing. Six months in and the gem store has pretty much the same as it had in it from the start. Im not saying id personally buy anything new anyway but im kind of surprised that they havent got a dedicated department designing for the gem store. They would make a killing on unique skins.

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Posted by: Kilrain Daggerspine.6843

Kilrain Daggerspine.6843

If they got rid of the kitten DR system and allowed me to feel rewarded for my playtime, I would gladly pay a monthly sub.. atm, no I would not.

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Posted by: LOCO.1785

LOCO.1785

I can’t bring myself to play it now even with no obligations…