Guild Wars 2

If this game was subscription based, would you be willing to pay to play this game monthly? Why or why not?

Do you think GW2 would have flopped if it was launched as a subscription game?

Personally I’d be willing

I think it would of done well for 2-3 months and then dropped off significantly in player subscription retention because that’s just how it goes these days, that model doesn’t last these days. Anet was really smart to go with this B2P model

No…don’t play any MMO with monthly subscription. It’s the main reason I play GW (1 or 2).

But for your last question…probably not…why would it be a flopped ?

But a question of my own…why are you even asking ?

hell no………

i dont know

i dont mind a monthly fee, but not everyone can afford that.
i think one of the big pro gw2 and gw1 things is its free to play.
A cool game and free to play, what more do you want

I think subscription fee games have gone the way of the dodo.

No, one of the main reasons GW2 is so attractive is due to the pay to play aspect. Also I don’t think I would pay monthly if a game didn’t have a strong active balance team. Just my opinion.

I absolutely, positively, would not play this game if it had a sub fee and this is coming from someone who played GW1 for close to 6 years.

I just feel like this game has nothing to offer anyone except casual gamers. The combat has little to no depth, there is no distinct role specialization, you can’t play a healer class, only one PvP mode, boring and horrendously built skill / trait system, grouping is semantic, shallow, and no content really supports or portrays depth to the gameplay systems. On top of this, the game lacks basic features that should have been in before launch and it also lacks social cohesion on many levels. Multi-guild was a mistake, removing the healer class was a mistake, designing encounters less intuitively than the first game was a mistake, and designing a completely vapid combat system was a huge mistake.

I enjoy this game for what it is, but i’ll never spend another dime on it and i’ve never spent in the cash shop because this game just feels and plays like a failure when i compare it to how much i enjoyed the depth and quality of GW1. Just my opinion.

Hell no. I would quit this game forever if it was subscription based. I wouldn’t mind paying to play gw1, but this game is nowhere near the quality of gameplay that gw1 had. It lacks SOOO much. But I’m sticking in there, hoping for the developers to come around. And keeping an eye on the game updates.

No. I never have paid a monthly fee for any game and never will.

No, I wouldn’t pay a subscription to play but that is because I have to buy gems in order to have any coin, at all. Without gems to gold, I would have already quit because it’s impossible to make coin.

So, no I wouldn’t let them double dip, sub + gem purchases.

If the economy was healthy and I could support myself through in game activities and not be forced to by gems, then I would pay a sub – but it’s one or the other.

I have no problem paying $15 a month for an mmo, did it with WoW and occasionally have to with Eve. I do not think GW2 is worthy of the $15 a month, its a decent game, but not worth more than the initial purchase price.

No. guild wars main selling point is no sub fee

I would not pay a sub fee for any game. Period.

<1200+ hours played.

I might have at the start. I was playing another sub MMO that I quit to play GW2, so it would have made sense to do it then. Instead of paying for monthly fees I’ve bought gold a couple of times when I was nearing the completion of something and my time>money, so I’ve probably paid about the same as I would have with a sub.

That being said, I’d quit the game immediately if they ever tried to throw a sub at us. It would be a cash grab, and would pretty much tell the players that’s all they care about.

No, it doesn’t have enough staying power or content to be P2P.

It plays like a single player game that people can “beat” so ppl put it down and come back later, having no subscription mean ppl can come back to this single player whenever they want, if they want.

With a subscription people would beat it and never play it again.

That’s the problem… when compared to other sub games, this one doesn’t have a leg to stand on yet. Maybe someday it could potentially, but they’d have to do alot. The pressure is on those sub games to constantly compete for their subs… they can’t push updates back, over-promise, etc.

People will take a lot more from Anet without quitting because of it, imo. It’s a fantastic game, assuming no subs. Subs are a game changer.

One of the only reasons I’m playing this ‘mmo’ is that its subscription free. No interest in ‘rental ware’.

M.

No!

SWG was the only game i payed (gladly) the monthly fee, because it offered a lot and GW2 doesnt even come close to that.
On the other hand GW2 is just perfect for a B2P game and I will most likely buy every expansion for it and some gem cards.
(But if there will be a level cap raise or further ascended-like gear “progression” I (as an avid GW1 fan) will quit GW2 completely.)

Dafomen.7892:

No!

SWG was the only game i payed (gladly) the monthly fee, because it offered a lot and GW2 doesnt even come close to that.
On the other hand GW2 is just perfect for a B2P game and I will most likely buy every expansion for it and some gem cards.
(But if there will be a level cap raise or further ascended-like gear “progression” I (as an avid GW1 fan) will quit GW2 completely.)

You may as well quit now because there most likely will be more gear progression in the game. It’s only a matter of time before we have ascended armor.

I would if a few things were changed:

Content released faster.
Bug fixes and Profession Balance taken seriously.
DR and Magic Find removed.
Boosters are removed from the gem store and the bonuses are balanced into the game normally.

Absolutely not.

The only reason I even tried GW2 to begin with was the fact that there was no subscription fee.

No, reasons are numerous and well known. There’s no need to go over them again.

No interest in ‘rental ware’
WoW is a big joke.

No…..because the company simply does not deserve it!

Sub fee games like WoW are all about how to keep you paying longer with artificial gates like ilvl gates or reputation gates or OP trinkets with microscopic drop rates just to stretch out their meager content over the longest period possible.

I much prefer the B2P model where I can choose to support the game with gem purchases if I like the content they are giving me.

I probably dropped enough sub fees on other games to buy myself a new computer.
Never again.

Karizee.8076:

Sub fee games like WoW are all about how to keep you paying longer with artificial gates like ilvl gates or reputation gates or OP trinkets with microscopic drop rates just to stretch out their meager content over the longest period possible.

Never again.

Yes . this is true.

Absolutely not, my wife would kill me… :P

Seriously though, if it were made p2p I’d go to another f2p game immediately or go back to single player rpg games and be done with MMO’s.

No, I would not. I think the biggest thing GW2 has going for it right now is the fact that it’s non-subscription based. If people get bored, they can take a break and then come back when they get an urge to play. During the Lost Shores release, they said they were running to 95% maximum data server capacity because so many people came back to check out the event. Now it’s just a matter of ArenaNet fully realizing/utilizing the Gem store to make a healthy profit without making it pay-to-win. So far they’ve been successful, but tournament tickets are in dangerous territory in my opinion.

If this was a sub-based game, I would have already voted with my wallet and left.

There are a lot of things that I like about the game, but its many bugs, broken mechanics, and balance issues would not be tolerable if I was paying a monthly subscription.

I expect any product I purchase to be finished and of high enough quality to warrant the price. GW2 is really at Beta-stage of development, good enough for a B2P business model, but not good enough for a subscription-based business model.

Sub fee games like WoW are all about how to keep you paying longer with artificial gates like ilvl gates or reputation gates or OP trinkets with microscopic drop rates just to stretch out their meager content over the longest period possible.
Never again.

If it was i sub-based game i would have voted with my walled and stayed:>

But Guild Wars 2 is a milestone in mmo gendre in equal part for it’s revolutionary approach to gameplay and revolutionary approach to payment. In time and age where games are shorter and shorter costing more and more, GW2 is the unmovable mountain that just stand in the way of this “progress” and does us all players a favor.

Because of that i would not agree to it being P2P. It’s comparable to what Final Fantasy 7 did for console asian rpgs – it opened the floodgates to the whole gendre to the west., as GW2 is now opening floodgates to true progression of the gendre both gameplay and payment model wise.

But there are still gems to get to thank arena.net for the awesome job:)

nope. wouldn’t play any p2p game.

No. Because I have no credit card, I move around alot so I won’t be able to play. =/

ZeftheWicked.3076:

If it was i sub-based game i would have voted with my walled and stayed:>

But Guild Wars 2 is a milestone in mmo gendre in equal part for it’s revolutionary approach to gameplay and revolutionary approach to payment. In time and age where games are shorter and shorter costing more and more, GW2 is the unmovable mountain that just stand in the way of this “progress” and does us all players a favor.

Because of that i would not agree to it being P2P. It’s comparable to what Final Fantasy 7 did for console asian rpgs – it opened the floodgates to the whole gendre to the west., as GW2 is now opening floodgates to true progression of the gendre both gameplay and payment model wise.

But there are still gems to get to thank arena.net for the awesome job:)

Because GW2 was obviously the first Buy to play game and the first game to have action combat!……oh wait

Charming Rogue.8071:

Hell no. I would quit this game forever if it was subscription based. I wouldn’t mind paying to play gw1, but this game is nowhere near the quality of gameplay that gw1 had. It lacks SOOO much. But I’m sticking in there, hoping for the developers to come around. And keeping an eye on the game updates.

I played Guild Wars 1 for five years, and I laugh when people say stuff like this. Guild Wars 1 is lacking in some many things it obviously needs. Guild Wars 2 answers a lot of those questions.

We must be focused on completely different aspects of the game.

No.

And not because I have a problem spending $15 to play a game. It’s simply because there’s not enough order and balance to justify the $15.

Everything from a lack of Cosmetics/Skin variety, Legendary Precursor’s being the way they are, WvW Culling, lack of WvW Rewards and incentives, Zergy gameplay, lack of class balancing and the amount of “fluff” holiday content added amongst the other mountain of issues. /deep breath

But other than that, it was an enjoyable and worthy sixty dollar purchase and I look forward to seeing what happens in the future. It has a long way to go.

I would not be playing. I love this game, and I would be deeply saddened if it went subscription. I will not pay a subscription for any game anymore, no matter how good it is.

With that being said, I wouldn’t mind a system where I can sign up for automatic withdrawal of X amount from my account every month and I get Y amount of Gems every month into my account. (Example, automatic withdrawal of $10 per month, and I get 800 Gems per month into my account) That would be just for convenience only though.

Absolutely not.
I’d rather stop playing then paying a monthly fee, whatever the game may be.

With the current loot issues I would not pay to play GW2. I do not mind spending a little with seasonal content but with loot issues making levelling characters a chore, or grinding for endgame gear much harder, gw2 would not get a subscription from me. I learnt my lesson from eve.

Nay.

I have no problem paying a subscription fee; Between Everquest 1&2, WoW, Rift, and a few other forgettable titles, I had an active MMO subscription for about 12 years.

But this game lacks a few things I would expect with a subscription, mainly multi-group pve content and not being subjected to other players hacking.

Sky.7610:

If this game was subscription based, would you be willing to pay to play this game monthly? Why or why not?

Do you think GW2 would have flopped if it was launched as a subscription game?

lol GW2 P2P? you gotta be kidding right?
Why not? Well i wont to lay it down cause most of our opinion WILL get Infracted or Removed if its not sweet melodies to the moderators ears.
In other words, let Anet do what ever they want as i’ve got my $60 worth of gameplay already.
But im sure i wont be getting the Expansions.
Its 2013… nuff said

Would I be willing to pay a $15/mo subscription for Guild Wars 2…

..if it had an MMO’s worth of content? Absolutely. I’m currently paying $15/mo for Gold on Champions Online (an optional subscription, what a novel idea) because the game, for my personal tastes, is absolutely worth it. Freeform character building is deep and rich and fun. If GW2 had content worth it, I’d happily pay a sub fee for me, my girlfriend, and my brother.

..as the game stands currently? No. The game doesn’t quite offer enough for my personal tastes, and the direction their once-a-month updates are going is not what I’m currently interested in.

GW2 is not currently worth a subscription. Maybe someday, but not now.

I would definitely pay subscription fee it’s worth it far more than any other MMO I played including WoW. Sadly I don’t have the money spare to do so.

Definitely not, however I would if they remove the RMT from the TP and made loot drops more reasonable.

NO. When game design changed to favor MMORPGs that play out like single player RPGs my spending habits changesd to favor MMORPGs that are payed for like single player RPGs…

In today’s market with todays’s games it is increasingly hard to justify paying a subscription when there is another game almost as good or better that’s F2P or Buy to play already there too.

nope. I just don’t think it’s worth a monthly fee.

Guild Wars 2, in its current state, no for a few reasons.

1) I personally feel it lacks the kind of end-game content required for a subscription model. I feel the boss encounters and the dungeons are enjoyable but arent of the standard required for me to shell out $15/£xx a month. That could change in the future however.

2) One of the reasons that subscription games worked was the added customer service you received as a paying customer. I personally feel that GW2 gives this good customer service at the moment for free, so there’s no need to pay for it in my opinion!

3) The subscription model is slowly dying and gradually id expect all MMOs to go buy-to-play. HOWEVER I do feel GW2 needs to take advantage of its gem store a lot more than its currently doing. Six months in and the gem store has pretty much the same as it had in it from the start. Im not saying id personally buy anything new anyway but im kind of surprised that they havent got a dedicated department designing for the gem store. They would make a killing on unique skins.

If they got rid of the kitten DR system and allowed me to feel rewarded for my playtime, I would gladly pay a monthly sub.. atm, no I would not.

I can’t bring myself to play it now even with no obligations…