Guild Wars 2

can i report someone for this cause that kitten is NOT COOL

Stars Wars will be spoiled that’s simply the way things work, if it’s not here it will be somewhere else. Sorry it matters to you but I really doubt there is a TOS infraction for that.

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

I laughed so hard and I’m not sure why.

I tried giving Braham a gift for wintersday…

Roundabout.1752:

Stars Wars will be spoiled that’s simply the way things work, if it’s not here it will be somewhere else. Sorry it matters to you but I really doubt there is a TOS infraction for that.

This. I really hate it when people are so uptight about spoilers (which I go out of my way to find so I can enjoy other parts of the movie and not be worried about stuff like I’ll be less shocked and sad if a character I like died…if only I had some personal story spoilers when I started this game :( )

Agemnon.4608:

Roundabout.1752:

Stars Wars will be spoiled that’s simply the way things work, if it’s not here it will be somewhere else. Sorry it matters to you but I really doubt there is a TOS infraction for that.

This. I really hate it when people are so uptight about spoilers (which I go out of my way to find so I can enjoy other parts of the movie and not be worried about stuff like I’ll be less shocked and sad if a character I like died…if only I had some personal story spoilers when I started this game )

that’s your prerogative, but at the same time you should respect everyone who wishes to enjoy the film without ‘spoilers’, which… spoil the experience. hence the name. i truly believe anyone who intentionally spoils star wars for people is heartless and probably a very lonely individual.

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Well played

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Aww man….he dies?

ghost.1804:

Agemnon.4608:

Roundabout.1752:

Stars Wars will be spoiled that’s simply the way things work, if it’s not here it will be somewhere else. Sorry it matters to you but I really doubt there is a TOS infraction for that.

This. I really hate it when people are so uptight about spoilers (which I go out of my way to find so I can enjoy other parts of the movie and not be worried about stuff like I’ll be less shocked and sad if a character I like died…if only I had some personal story spoilers when I started this game )

that’s your prerogative, but at the same time you should respect everyone who wishes to enjoy the film without ‘spoilers’, which… spoil the experience. hence the name. i truly believe anyone who intentionally spoils star wars for people is heartless and probably a very lonely individual.

Or you could just realise that the internet is full of kittens and – oh here’s a good idea – stay away from the internet if you don’t want spoilers. There are many options to block people or even turn off chat entirely.

You have more than enough options to deal with not wanting spoilers. Utilise them.

Just turn off map chat until you watch it. Its better than real life. You can’t stop people from telling you in real life.

Ashen.2907:

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Aww man….he dies?

nahh man… he comes, cuz he has some big sacks and goes “ho ho ho”…

…ops forgot spoiler :p

Ashen.2907:

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Aww man….he dies?

No, worse! it turns out that Santa is Luke’s father!

Ahahaha… I’ve noticed that discussion in LA yesterday.
The “spoiler” was a joke anyway. And even if it wasn’t…
Do you call the police if a friend who already watched the movie spoilers you, too?
Your question can be answered with just some little brain and logic. Go for it!

As for the santa-thingy – you made my day! ^^

ghost.1804:

can i report someone for this cause that kitten is NOT COOL

I’d be appalled if you could, there’s far worse things people do in this game than that which aren’t reportable.

Yes, posting a spoiler is a jerk move, but frankly if anyone really, really doesn’t want to get spoiled they shouldn’t be using the Internet, watching TV news, reading newspapers, etc. etc.

Remember me to turn off map chat for now. It is useless anyways.

Ashen.2907:

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Aww man….he dies?

Yeah, I’m afraid he does die but not before he repents, throws the emperor down kitten, find out that his kids turned out OK and finally sees the world with his own eyes again. Actually I might be confusing it with another storyline.

I generally have map and say chat turned off anyways. I got really tired of 12 year olds constantly talking about their (and others) private parts.

I’m pretty sure I know who luke’s father is, so it’s all good. No worries.

Black dude can use the force, he kills some Sith.

Oh the humanity...

LOL people commenting you should stop using the internet if you don’t want spoilers… how sensible. Maybe people just need to stop living if they don’t want spoilers too?

just don’t spoil till 2 months later, is that really so hard to do?

I’m older, I grew up with Star Wars, I never got the memo that it’s fans have become ultra sensitive kittens.

I’m gonna go with the OP here and furthermore say why don’t we just skip all the foreplay, and get straight to the book burning. It’s been 80 years and humanity is ready for Round 3.

Seriously though, thin skin seems to be what’s in right now, id say suck it up buttercup, life will go on.

Phobia.9651:

LOL people commenting you should stop using the internet if you don’t want spoilers… how sensible. Maybe people just need to stop living if they don’t want spoilers too?

If I’ve seen a movie that I liked, I’ll want to talk about it. It’s not my fault that someone else is the one who doesn’t want spoilers. Have some common sense. Of course people are going to talk about it, and that’s not their problem. If the person with the issue has options to stop seeing potential spoilers, then utilise them and quit whining. There are more than enough options in-game for that already.

Ashen.2907:

Loxias.2375:

Wait til you hear about Santa Claus…

Aww man….he dies?

Stupid jrr Martin killing off everyone we like…

(Reads ToS)

Nope, nothing about spoilers in there. You’re out of luck on the reporting thing.

Ahaha. People really will complain about everything on here.
Stay off the internet if you are so sensitive.

As a side note, too, you can’t really “spoil” something that’s well-written.

True story.

Miss Lana Too.5794:

If I’ve seen a movie that I liked, I’ll want to talk about it. It’s not my fault that someone else is the one who doesn’t want spoilers.

You can want to talk about it all you want, doesn’t mean you should, you don’t have more right to talk than someone else has to peace and quiet.

Talk about it in guild chat, in local chat, in real life but if you broadcast in map chat and someone asks you to not talk about it, you should stop talking.

They’re doing the same thing in WoW, both (reportedly) ingame and also on their forum. There’s one thread over there about that movie that has a title with no spoiler tag and none in the text. It isn’t something that’s this game only

Miss Lana Too.5794:

Phobia.9651:

LOL people commenting you should stop using the internet if you don’t want spoilers… how sensible. Maybe people just need to stop living if they don’t want spoilers too?

If I’ve seen a movie that I liked, I’ll want to talk about it. It’s not my fault that someone else is the one who doesn’t want spoilers. Have some common sense. Of course people are going to talk about it, and that’s not their problem. If the person with the issue has options to stop seeing potential spoilers, then utilise them and quit whining. There are more than enough options in-game for that already.

So titling your lfgs which people who want to participate in group content can’t ignore constitutes as “talking about a movie you like”?

Randomly droping spoilers out of context in map chat to anoy people is a meaningful disscussion?

If you are trolling, then at least have the decency to call it by that name and don;t try selling people crap for roses.

If you are spoiling this movie 1 day after it’scinematic release, you are an kitten . There is no arguing around that. It’s called common courtesy towards your fellow players. You might want to pick some of that up eventually.

Cyninja.2954:

Miss Lana Too.5794:

Phobia.9651:

LOL people commenting you should stop using the internet if you don’t want spoilers… how sensible. Maybe people just need to stop living if they don’t want spoilers too?

If I’ve seen a movie that I liked, I’ll want to talk about it. It’s not my fault that someone else is the one who doesn’t want spoilers. Have some common sense. Of course people are going to talk about it, and that’s not their problem. If the person with the issue has options to stop seeing potential spoilers, then utilise them and quit whining. There are more than enough options in-game for that already.

So titling your lfgs which people who want to participate in group content can’t ignore constitutes as “talking about a movie you like”?

Randomly droping spoilers out of context in map chat to anoy people is a meaningful disscussion?

If you are trolling, then at least have the decency to call it by that name and don;t try selling people crap for roses.

If you are spoiling this movie 1 day after it’scinematic release, you are an kitten . There is no arguing around that. It’s called common courtesy towards your fellow players. You might want to pick some of that up eventually.

Wow I do not see where this hostility is coming from. I have not seen the movie, nor do I intend to. I have not dropped any spoilers, nor am I trying to “sell people crap for roses”.

General Health.9678:

You can want to talk about it all you want, doesn’t mean you should, you don’t have more right to talk than someone else has to peace and quiet.

You may have the right to peace and quiet as much as I have the right to freedom of speech. That’s called an impasse, except for me, I won’t shut up just because some idiot decides to demand quiet instead of turning off map chat which is VERY easily doable.

If you cannot be bothered to turn off chat/s because you want spoilers, then it’s your fault if they get spoiled.

General Health.9678:

Miss Lana Too.5794:

If I’ve seen a movie that I liked, I’ll want to talk about it. It’s not my fault that someone else is the one who doesn’t want spoilers.

You can want to talk about it all you want, doesn’t mean you should, you don’t have more right to talk than someone else has to peace and quiet.

Talk about it in guild chat, in local chat, in real life but if you broadcast in map chat and someone asks you to not talk about it, you should stop talking.

Uh, yeah…actually…people do have more of a right to talk than you have to keep them silent. At least in America…

So..uh…good luck with that logic.

If you are such a tender little soul, and you know that you will be bothered by spoilers, take precautions against them yourself. Turn off chat right after something comes out if you haven’t had the chance to see it yet, or even go see the movie sooner. Whatever you need to do. It is not the job of any community to censor themselves because you’re a big baby that cares that much about a “surprise” being “spoiled”.

paintpixie.7398:

General Health.9678:

Miss Lana Too.5794:

If I’ve seen a movie that I liked, I’ll want to talk about it. It’s not my fault that someone else is the one who doesn’t want spoilers.

You can want to talk about it all you want, doesn’t mean you should, you don’t have more right to talk than someone else has to peace and quiet.

Talk about it in guild chat, in local chat, in real life but if you broadcast in map chat and someone asks you to not talk about it, you should stop talking.

Uh, yeah…actually…people do have more of a right to talk than you have to keep them silent. At least in America…

So..uh…good luck with that logic.

If you are such a tender little soul, and you know that you will be bothered by spoilers, take precautions against them yourself. Turn off chat right after something comes out if you haven’t had the chance to see it yet, or even go see the movie sooner. Whatever you need to do. It is not the job of any community to censor themselves because you’re a big baby that cares that much about a “surprise” being “spoiled”.

That’s exactly it. If you have the capabilites (and you most certainly do, at least in-game, which is what’s being whined about) to be proactive to stop the spoilers from getting through to yourself, then USE THEM.

Sure, report them. It’s a kitten move, end of story.

So freedom of speach, which is essentially the freedom not to get presecuted by your government or censorship, is also a freebee to be be a troll towards fellow players.

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to spoil stuff ingame. It’s simply a kitten move and justifying it with the basic right to do it, shows only how little people think of their fellow players.

Then later, people complain why the community is going down the drain. There might be a correlation…

Cyninja.2954:

So freedom of speach, which is essentially the freedom not to get presecuted by your government or censorship, is also a freebee to be be a troll towards fellow players.

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to spoil stuff ingame. It’s simply a kitten move and justifying it with the basic right to do it, shows only how little people think of their fellow players.

Then later, people complain why the community is going down the drain. There might be a correlation…

Also having entitled kittens wanting everyone to drop everything and shut up would have a correlation to the community going down the drain.

What you’re asking is akin to this:

I don’t want my house broken into. Therefore I take the appropriate measures to keep it as secure as I possibly can whenever I’m out. If I get broken into that’s not entirely my fault, because I have taken all the steps I can to stop the break in. It’s not my fault.

You don’t want your house broken into, yet you’re leaving the front door wide open, the curtains pulled back with that huge LCD screen on display. That looks pretty inviting to a robber, so they come inside your completely unlocked house and steal the TV. You didn’t take the precautions that you could to stop the break in. That’s your fault. But on top of that, then you go to the court and demand that all thieves be told not to steal.

You don’t want spoilers? Here’s a suggestion. Use the resources available to NOT hear spoilers. It’s not that kitten hard! It’s in fact very very easy!

Cyninja.2954:

So freedom of speach, which is essentially the freedom not to get presecuted by your government or censorship, is also a freebee to be be a troll towards fellow players.

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to spoil stuff ingame. It’s simply a kitten move and justifying it with the basic right to do it, shows only how little people think of their fellow players.

Addendum: the Freedom of Speech as spelled out by the US Constitution is actually only applicable in cases of government censorship, and even then it isn’t absolute (e.g. shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theater is not protected speech). A private company such as ArenaNet is entirely within their rights to ban players from the game for mouthing off in chat.

^ What Blaine Tog said. Freedom of Speech is not as applicable as people seem to think it means.

That said its ridiculous to ban someone for spoilers. I’m getting flashbacks of FOR THE WATCH meme.

I hate to be that guy, but…

VADER IS LUKES FATHER!

Spoiled.

Done and done.

Miss Lana Too.5794:

Cyninja.2954:

So freedom of speach, which is essentially the freedom not to get presecuted by your government or censorship, is also a freebee to be be a troll towards fellow players.

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to spoil stuff ingame. It’s simply a kitten move and justifying it with the basic right to do it, shows only how little people think of their fellow players.

Then later, people complain why the community is going down the drain. There might be a correlation…

Also having entitled kittens wanting everyone to drop everything and shut up would have a correlation to the community going down the drain.

What you’re asking is akin to this:

I don’t want my house broken into. Therefore I take the appropriate measures to keep it as secure as I possibly can whenever I’m out. If I get broken into that’s not entirely my fault, because I have taken all the steps I can to stop the break in. It’s not my fault.

You don’t want your house broken into, yet you’re leaving the front door wide open, the curtains pulled back with that huge LCD screen on display. That looks pretty inviting to a robber, so they come inside your completely unlocked house and steal the TV. You didn’t take the precautions that you could to stop the break in. That’s your fault. But on top of that, then you go to the court and demand that all thieves be told not to steal.

You don’t want spoilers? Here’s a suggestion. Use the resources available to NOT hear spoilers. It’s not that kitten hard! It’s in fact very very easy!

No one is asking you to drop everything and shut up. There are sufficient ways for private convos, parties, guilds, etc.

You’ve also not answered how people are to protect themselves from the spoiler spam in LFG. Besides the fact that you are asking players in an MMO to block all open communication. Many wouldn’t even consider having to do this, unfortunately once spoilered, you can’t just unsee what someone wrote.

Basically you are saying:“I have the right to be a kitten. So you make sure I’m not a kitten to you.”

All I’m saying is:“Yes, you have the right to be a kitten. Now stop pretending like you are not a kitten and accept that and owe up to it.”

cocowoushi.7150:

^ What Blaine Tog said. Freedom of Speech is not as applicable as people seem to think it means.

That said its ridiculous to ban someone for spoilers. I’m getting flashbacks of FOR THE WATCH meme.

I don’t think it’s all that ridiculous. A perma ban would be excessive, but banning someone for 2 weeks, or even just banning them from chat for 2 weeks, would not be an excessive punishment. Think about it: by making GW2 map chat a dangerous place for people who want to avoid spoilers, they incentivize those people to simply not play GW2 until they’ve seen Star Wars. People who post spoilers are essentially trying to push their fellow players out of the game (if only temporarily), which is something ANet absolutely has an interest in preventing.

Conversely, if ANet gives themselves a reputation for coming down hard on people who intentionally post spoilers, then they set up GW2 as a safe space for people to spend some recreating time before they are able to see big movies, which means they might actually see an increase in playtime as people prioritize GW2 over Facebook, Twitter, or other online games they might play. Temp-banning people for posting spoilers would actually be a really smart business decision.

it’s difficult to stop jerks from being jerks. it’s easier to adapt and put yourself in a better position to be successful. trying to nerf the entire world, including gw2, to remove and shutdown everyone who hurts your feelings is never going to happen.

i understand that this is a generation where everything is offensive and you want your safe space. unfortunately, in reality you are just a lump of decaying organic matter like everyone else.

tldr: adapt or live with the fact that you will never be happy.

Miss Lana Too.5794:

Yes, I do have the right to be a kitten.

Rights don’t matter when it comes to private property, not in this case. You don’t have a constitutional right to play GW2. If you’re a kitten, ANet has the right to throw you out.

That said, turning off chat and not reading detailed LFGs is probably the prudent course of action. Arguing about whether someone has the right or not to be a kitten isn’t going to protect me from their skulduggery.

Miss Lana Too.5794:

Cyninja.2954:

Basically you are saying:“I have the right to be a kitten. So you make sure I’m not a kitten to you.”

All I’m saying is:“Yes, you have the right to be a kitten. Now stop pretending like you are not a kitten and accept that and own* up to it.”

(Fixed that bit for you)

Yes, I do have the right to be a kitten. No I’m not intentionally being a kitten right now. I’m playing devil’s advocate. There’s a difference. Now I’ve “owned up to it”, can we move on? (considering this wasn’t the topic that’s being discussed in the first place, and definitely not what you were talking about mid-conversation either. Please stay on one track.)

As for LFG I have no solution. You can yell at them all you want, but they’ll still post them there. That’s not my problem, as I don’t care about spoilers. That’s your problem. The only solution I can think of is to not use the LFG, but I’m sure you’ll whine about that too.

If that’s all you want are you happy now? Good. Now use those resources in-game and enable yourself instead of whining like an entitled brat.

You spend half your post agreeing with the fact that I was right. Then I’m an entitled brat? You have a very wierd persective on entitlement.

I could care less about people spoiling stuff left and right, I know people can be jerks. Doesn’t mean I have to walk around defending it or being okay with it.

Cyninja.2954:

You spend half your post agreeing with the fact that I was right. Then I’m an entitled brat? You have a very weird perspective** on entitlement.

I could care less about people spoiling stuff left and right, I know people can be jerks. Doesn’t mean I have to walk around defending it or being okay with it.

(Fixed that as well for you)

One sentence = half my post? There’s something incredibly wrong with your maths.

I’m not defending the fact that people are kittens. I’m saying that instead of putting up with it you have many options to actually deal with it!

I feel like we’re going around in circles. Listen, you use the resources to actually stop seeing people being kittens, and you’ll see less kittens. A child could understand that. If you can’t then I’m sorry, but there’s nothing else I can do to even try to help your poor entitled soul. Good luck.

Star Wars spoilers: it’ll be a bad to, at best, mediocre movie that nerds love way too much. George Lucas sucks.

Blaine Tog.8304:

cocowoushi.7150:

^ What Blaine Tog said. Freedom of Speech is not as applicable as people seem to think it means.

That said its ridiculous to ban someone for spoilers. I’m getting flashbacks of FOR THE WATCH meme.

I don’t think it’s all that ridiculous. A perma ban would be excessive, but banning someone for 2 weeks, or even just banning them from chat for 2 weeks, would not be an excessive punishment. Think about it: by making GW2 map chat a dangerous place for people who want to avoid spoilers, they incentivize those people to simply not play GW2 until they’ve seen Star Wars. People who post spoilers are essentially trying to push their fellow players out of the game (if only temporarily), which is something ANet absolutely has an interest in preventing.

Conversely, if ANet gives themselves a reputation for coming down hard on people who intentionally post spoilers, then they set up GW2 as a safe space for people to spend some recreating time before they are able to see big movies, which means they might actually see an increase in playtime as people prioritize GW2 over Facebook, Twitter, or other online games they might play. Temp-banning people for posting spoilers would actually be a really smart business decision.

You are using a lot of very strong language for something that is a very minor offense.
I think you need to take a step back and think through what the actual repercussions of what you’re asking would be.
You may want to live in a world with pillows for walls, where nobody says anything that makes you feel “offended”, or sad, or bad. But that world will never exist. EVER. Even in Disney owned “MMOs”, where they limit chat to their own pre-selected phrases, people STILL find ways to annoy other people.
You are playing a game with other people. The best way to live among other people is to learn to get along with them, and understand that sometimes there are jerks who will try to ruin your day.
If this is the worst you have to deal with in a day, I’d say, overall, that’s a pretty good day when it’s all said and done. And it’s far better than the alternative. Because once you start banning people for rules arbitrarily (which is what you are suggesting they do, since this isn’t in the rules anywhere), you are going to lose more players than if they just let people work out the issues themselves.

Sometimes, people are rolplaying in public channels. I don’t like roleplaying, and I turn off chat when I’m in town sometimes. But should those people be banned? There are other channels for them to use. They don’t have to use map chat either.

Of course not.

Map chat is essentially a public area where anybody can talk, and anybody that doesn’t like it, doesn’t have to listen.
(I don’t know what to tell you about the LFG thing, though…I do think that’s something that should be addressed more seriously since it can’t be avoided without having a detriment on gameplay.)

Map chat is essentially a public area where you don’t have to talk about non-game stuff.
People who don’t like it can report you and you can get banned.
There fixed.

“i’m american therefore i have a right to do stuff on the internet”.
yeah.. no you don’t.

Miss Lana Too.5794:

Cyninja.2954:

You spend half your post agreeing with the fact that I was right. Then I’m an entitled brat? You have a very weird perspective** on entitlement.

I could care less about people spoiling stuff left and right, I know people can be jerks. Doesn’t mean I have to walk around defending it or being okay with it.

(Fixed that as well for you)

One sentence = half my post? There’s something incredibly wrong with your maths.

I’m not defending the fact that people are kittens. I’m saying that instead of putting up with it you have many options to actually deal with it!

I feel like we’re going around in circles. Listen, you use the resources to actually stop seeing people being kittens, and you’ll see less kittens. A child could understand that. If you can’t then I’m sorry, but there’s nothing else I can do to even try to help your poor entitled soul. Good luck.

Good for you. You’ve corrected a non-native speaker who speaks 4 languages on his spelling and idioms on a gaming forum. More power to you.

Still don’t see the entitlement, but then I guess you are using that just to offend.

paintpixie.7398:

You are using a lot of very strong language for something that is a very minor offense.

And a two-week chat ban is a very minor punishment for an offense that might push people away from the game.

paintpixie.7398:

You may want to live in a world with pillows for walls,

Who said anything about that? I think it’s a kitten move to spoil things and I also think that it might be a smart business decision for ANet to put their foot down about it, but I assure you I’m not emotionally involved in this. I don’t want Star Wars spoiled for me but it won’t be the end of the world if it is. Turning off map chat for a few days sounds like probably the way to go for me.

I realize the cool thing to do these days is attack other people’s toughness but really, I’m just trying to have a conversation about this. So here, let me be cool for a moment: are you sure you’re not the one who wants to live in a pillow world where no one can ever discuss community standards? Because that’s sure what it looks like.